Jun 09, 2026 City Council on 2026-06-09 6:00 PM

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HOWDY, EVERYBODY.

[1. Call to Order]

WE DID HAVE A LITTLE GLITCH IN OUR AUDIO-VISUAL EQUIPMENT, SO I'M JUST RE ANNOUNCING THIS.

THE PUBLIC IS INVITED AND WELCOME TO ATTEND. THANK YOU.

[2. Work Session (Open to the Public) 1st Floor Conference Room Citizen comments will not be heard during the Work Session, but will be heard during the Regular Session under Citizens' Appearance.]

CITIZENS COMMENTS WILL NOT BE HEARD DURING THE WORK SESSIONS BUT WILL BE HEARD DURING THE REGULAR SESSION UNDER CITIZENS APPEARANCE, WE HAVE FIVE ITEMS UP FOR DISCUSSION TODAY. THERE IS A REQUEST TO DEFER ITEM E, WHICH IS AN UPDATE REGARDING THE COPPELL ARTS CENTER TO THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT ALL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL CAN BE PRESENT.

STARTING WITH ITEM A. THIS IS A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE AGENDA. I WANTED TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF THEM FIRST. I AM. I DID PUT MY NAME IN THE TML FOR THE PRESIDENT ELECT POSITION. TML GOES THROUGH A REALLY WEIRD ROUTINE TO ELECT THE PRESIDENT. AND THE PRESIDENT ELECT IS BY NOMINATION. AND THEN IT GOES TO THE ENTIRE BOARD FOR JUST A ROUTINE VOTE. NOT DISSIMILAR OF WHAT MIKE WENT THROUGH FOR ICMA. I DON'T. I'VE GOT TO GET A RESOLUTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THAT WHERE THEY'LL ACCEPT THE APPLICATION. SO THAT IS ITEM B. YOU WANT THAT? YES, SIR.

OKAY. YOU KNOW THE. I CURRENTLY SERVE AS A DIRECTOR AND WE DO LIKE THREE MEETINGS A YEAR, SO IT'S NOT LIKE A MAJOR. A LOT OF IT'S DONE BY VIDEO. THERE WAS A QUESTION ON ITEM D. I TRUST THAT THAT WAS ANSWERED BY STAFF'S MEMO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON AGENDA ITEMS? I DON'T KNOW WHO ASKED D, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY. RAMESH.

NO, I ASKED V AND THEY ANSWERED IT VERY WELL. OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON AGENDA? IT'S IN TIDBITS, SO IT CAME OUT LATE. IT'S BASICALLY THE TONIGHT. NO, IT'S OKAY. YEAH, IT'S NOTHING. IT'S A STATE CONTRACT. OKAY. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON AGENDA? LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM B. DISCUSSION REGARDING BOND REFUNDING. I'M GUESSING THAT WOULD BE MS. KIM. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE BOND REFUNDING ITEM THAT IS ON TONIGHT'S REGULAR SESSION AGENDA. WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME-SHARING INFORMATION ABOUT THIS NEW METHOD, BUT MAYBE NOT A LOT OF TIME PROVIDING INFORMATION REGARDING THE NUMBERS AND THE IMPACT OF THE MARKET ON THE BOND REFUNDING. AND SO, I HOPE THE PRESENTATION AND THE DISCUSSION WILL BE HELPFUL AS YOU CONSIDER THAT ITEM LATER THIS EVENING. SO TONIGHT THE AGENDA WE THOUGHT TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR DECISION THIS EVENING THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE A REVIEW OF THE DEBT PLANNING STRATEGY THAT I PRESENTED AT THE FEBRUARY COUNCIL RETREAT AND THEN JASON WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH A MARKET UPDATE AND SHARE A RECOMMENDATION CONCERNING THE PARAMETERS BASED ON THE CURRENT MARKET. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS WE WALK THROUGH THE INFORMATION, JUST PLEASE STOP AND ASK BECAUSE IT REALLY IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU FEEL THAT YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO CONSIDER THE ITEM THIS EVENING.

SO, THIS SLIDE SUMMARIZES THE DEBT STRATEGY SHARED WITH YOU AT THE FEBRUARY RETREAT.

FIRST, WE IDENTIFIED TWO REASONS TO EXPLORE REFUNDING THE 2013 AND 2016 CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION BONDS SINCE THEY BECAME CALLABLE. I SHARED THAT REFUNDING THE BONDS WOULD REDUCE THE CITY'S FUTURE DEBT SERVICE COSTS MUCH LIKE REFINANCING YOUR HOME REFUNDING BOND IS DONE TO REDUCE THE OVERALL COST OF THE OUTSTANDING DEBT. AND THEN SECOND, I SHARED THAT THE SAVINGS WOULD HELP CREATE CAPACITY FOR A FUTURE BOND ISSUE TO FUND THE RECONSTRUCTION OF FIRE STATIONS 1, 2 AND 3 WHILE MAINTAINING THE INS PORTION OF YOUR PROPERTY TAX RATE.

AGAIN, THIS IS JUST PROVIDING YOU OPTIONS. YOU HAVEN'T APPROVED ISSUING FUTURE DEBT.

IT JUST PROVIDES SOME OPTIONS.

SO, AFTER SHARING THE STRATEGIC REASONS TO REFUND, I SHARED THE REFUNDING METHOD THAT WOULD BE NEW TO COMPEL BUT NOT NEW TO THE INDUSTRY AND THAT METHOD IS ALLOWED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 1371. I FIRST SHARED THE PARAMETER SALE METHOD WITH YOU IN MAY OF 2025 AT THAT COUNCIL RETREAT. WE

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I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS SLIDE. JASON REALLY IS GOING TO COVER THIS, BUT I WANTED TO JUST REMIND YOU THAT COUNCIL IS EFFECTIVELY PRE APPROVING THE REFUNDING SUBJECT TO THE PARAMETERS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE. AND IT IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO REVISIT THESE PARAMETERS THIS EVENING AND TO LOOK AT HOW CAN THOSE HELP US ACHIEVE OUR STATED OBJECTIVES, WHICH AGAIN ARE TO REDUCE THE OVERALL BOND COST AND THEN CREATE CAPACITY SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO ISSUE FUTURE BONDS WHILE STILL MAINTAINING THAT INS TAX RATE. SO SPECIFICALLY, THE RELATED AGENDA ITEM ASKS COUNCIL TO REPEAL THE EXISTING ORDINANCE AND APPROVE A NEW ORDINANCE WITH MORE PRACTICAL PARAMETERS, AGAIN WITH THE INTENT OF THIS REQUEST TO PRESERVE THE ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT THE STRATEGY DISCUSSED AT THE FEBRUARY RETREAT SHOULD MARKET CONDITIONS IMPROVE AND ALL COUNCIL APPROVED REQUIREMENTS ARE MET. SO NOW THAT YOU HAVE THE WHY, WHICH IS THE DEBT PLANNING STRATEGY, I'D LIKE TO INVITE JASON HUGHES WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES, HE'S THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR, TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE MARKET AND WALK YOU THROUGH HIS RECOMMENDED PARAMETERS FOR BOTH THE CO'S REFUNDING.

HE'S ALSO GOING TO SHARE HIS RECOMMENDED PARAMETERS FOR THE CRDC REVENUE BONDS. WE WILL BE TAKING THAT TO THE BOARD ON JULY 20TH FOR THEM TO THEY NEED TO APPROVE THE PARAMETERS AND THEN WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL ON JULY 28 FOR YOU TO APPROVE. BUT WE WANT TO GET YOUR INPUT BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO, TO THE BOARD. SO, WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JASON UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. THANK YOU.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD TO BE WITH YOU AGAIN TONIGHT. GOING TO QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE FIRST COUPLE SLIDES BECAUSE YOU HAVE SEEN THESE IN THE PAST. JUST A REMINDER, THIS IS A REFINANCING.

ALL WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS REPLACE THE DEBT WITH LOWER INTEREST RATE DEBT AND FOR DEBT SERVICE SAVINGS, THIS IS OF COURSE A PARAMETER BOND SALE. AS KIM SAID, THIS GIVES US MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY AND THE REASON THAT WE NEED THAT IS BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE HERE WHAT INTEREST RATE HAD DONE. AND THIS IS A SHORT SYNOPSIS THAT LOOKS AT THE DAY BEFORE COUNCIL MET FOR THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THIS JUST GOES INTO THE 5 YEAR, THAT'S THE BOTTOM INTEREST RATE AND THEN THE 10 YEAR. AND I JUST CHOSE THESE TWO BECAUSE THE CITY DEBT IS ONLY A 10-YEAR DEBT. AND SO, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THERE'S A PRETTY STEP FORWARD FOR STEADY RISE FROM 2.91% ON A 10 YEAR UP TO 3, 3.17% BUT WE'RE BACK DOWN NOW TO ABOUT 2.95% AND THEN ON THE LOWER THE FIVE YEAR WE WENT FROM A 2.51% UP TO 2.8% AND THEN AGAIN NOT ALL THE WAY DOWN BUT BACK DOWN TO 2.58%.

THESE ARE RELATIVELY LARGE MOVES IN THE MUNICIPAL MARKET.

YOU TYPICALLY DON'T SEE MOVES THIS BIG. BUT OF COURSE, WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN PARTICULAR IRAN BEING THE MAIN DRIVER OF THAT, THERE'S A LOT OF VOLATILITY IN THE MARKET. AGAIN, THE PARAMETER ALLOWS US, ONCE WE MEET ALL THE PARAMETERS WHERE WE CAN GO IN AND PRICE THOSE REFUNDING BONDS. SO, ON THE CITY GEO REFUNDING BONDS ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE IN THE DARK BLUE, THE SUGGESTED PARAMETERS, AGAIN, IT'S ONLY THE 2013 AND 2016 COS. THOSE ARE THE ONLY BONDS THAT WE CAN TOUCH. THE AMOUNT OF BONDS BETWEEN THOSE TWO IN AGGREGATE IS 10.34 MILLION. SO THAT WOULD BE THE AMOUNT OF PAR THAT WE WOULD LOOK TO TAKE OUT IF WE REFUNDED OUT ALL OF THE REMAINING BONDS. SO, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, WE GIVE OURSELVES A MAXIMUM PAR AMOUNT OF 10.5 MILLION, A MAXIMUM RATE OR TRUE INTEREST COST OF 3.25%. AND THEN WE DO HAVE A MINIMUM SAVINGS. AND THE WAY THAT MINIMUM SAVINGS IS CALCULATED IS THROUGH A PRESENT VALUE.

WHENEVER YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THE WAY THE REFUNDING WORKS IS WE SELL THE REFUNDING BONDS, PROCEEDS OF THAT GO TO PAY OFF THE OLD BONDHOLDERS.

AND SO, YOU'RE NOT GETTING A CHECK FOR ALL THOSE SAVINGS, YOU'RE TAKING THOSE SAME SAVINGS OVER THE LIFE OF THE BONDS. RIGHT. THAT'S WHY WE PRESENT VALUE IT BACK. AND SO, IF YOU SEE THERE THAT 3% TIMES AGAIN, I SAID THE 10,340,000.

THE AMOUNT OF BONDS OF THE 2013 AND 2016 COS, 3% TIMES THAT NUMBER IS $310,200.

THAT'S HOW WE GET BACK TO THAT PRESENT VALUE NUMBER.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS

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SO, WE ARE DOING THIS SOLELY FOR SAVINGS. THERE'S NO EXTENSION OF DEBT. IF YOU GO ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE AND KIND OF THE DARK GRAY, ONE OF THE THINGS, WHENEVER YOU SEE THE NUMBER, THE CURRENT PV SAVINGS, 224,000, THAT IS AFTER ALL OF THE FEES HAVE BEEN PAID.

SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO IS WHENEVER WE SELL THE ORIGINAL DEBT, WE DO NOT SIMPLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO TO THE CURRENT BONDHOLDERS AND SAY RATES ARE LOWER. WE WANT TO TRADE THIS OUT. WE HAVE TO SELL A NEW SERIES OF SECURITIES IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE PROCEEDS TO TAKE OUT THOSE BONDS. SO AGAIN, COST OF ISSUANCE, THAT COVERS BOND COUNSEL, FINANCIAL ADVISOR. WE DO HAVE TWO RATING AGENCIES, THAT'S MOODY'S AND S AND P. YOU PAY THEM, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, YOUR PAYING AGENT, WHO PAYS ALL OF YOUR BONDHOLDERS, AS WELL AS THE OLD BONDHOLDERS.

THERE'S ALSO SOME POSTING FEES BECAUSE ALL OF THIS IS DONE ELECTRONICALLY.

SO, ALL OF THOSE FEES ARE PAID WITHIN THE REFUNDING BOND, PLUS THAT AMOUNT THAT IS PAID TO THE UNDERWRITER FOR GOING OUT AND SELLING THE BOND. SO THAT 223,000 REPRESENTS ABOUT 2.3% OF THE OVERALL PAR AMOUNT WHICH THE REFUNDING BOND. AND THEN AGAIN WHENEVER YOU GO DOWN TO THE CURRENT PV SAVING 224,000, THAT IS NET OF ALL THE FEES WHICH HAVE BEEN PAID.

ONCE AGAIN, ALL THOSE FEES PAID OUT OF THE REFUNDING BOND, THEY DON'T COME OUT OF GENERAL FUNDS OR ANY OTHER CITY FUNDS.

AS YOU CAN SEE NOW, THE CURRENT PV SAVINGS, WE DO NOT MEET OUR MINIMUM THRESHOLD.

SO, WE WERE AT 2.17%. AND ONE OF THE THINGS, IF YOU HAVE WHAT KIM HAD, SHE PUT TOGETHER A MEMO THAT WENT THROUGH KIND OF THE HISTORY OF WHERE THE PB SAVINGS WERE AND WHERE THEY ARE NOW. SO, WHENEVER WE FIRST STARTED KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS BACK IN FEBRUARY, WE WERE ABOVE THE 3% THRESHOLD AT 4.13%. WE WENT DOWN AGAIN ONCE THE IRAN WAR STARTED, WHICH IS FIRST PART OF MARCH, SO WE'VE BEEN DOWN TO 2.4. THEN IT WENT AS LOW AS 1.6% AND NOW WE ARE AGAIN RIGHT UP AROUND 2.2%. SO AGAIN, IT'S THAT VOLATILITY IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS, IF NOT THE MAIN REASON, THAT WE LOOK TO GET APPROVAL OF THAT PARAMETER. SO ONCE AGAIN, JUST TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR, PARAMETERS ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, IF YOU APPROVE TONIGHT, THESE WILL BE THE PARAMETERS GOING FORWARD. WE HAVE TO MEET EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. RIGHT NOW, WE CAN'T DO THAT. IF RATES AND I JUST WENT IN AND CALCULATED IF RATES WERE TO DECREASE APPROXIMATELY 2/10 OF 1% ALONG THE INTEREST RATE CURVE, THAT WOULD HIT THE 3%. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM AN INTEREST RATE PERSPECTIVE. SO LET ME STOP THERE. I WANTED TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT, KIND OF GO THROUGH THE NUMBERS. CAN I ANSWER ANYTHING ABOUT THIS BEFORE I GO AND TALK ABOUT THE CRDC? SO YEAH, JASON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THIS IS HELPFUL. IN YOUR FIRST SLIDE WHERE YOU WERE SHOWING THE 5 YEAR AND 10-YEAR CURVES OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, YOU SAID THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY RELATIVELY VOLATILE. SO, IF WE NEED A 210 OF A PERCENT, THAT'S GOING DOWN TO ROUGHLY 2.75, GIVE OR TAKE. GIVE OR TAKE. SO THAT'S A PRETTY BIG JUMP. IT IS A BIG JUMP, BUT THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS THE 3% PV SAVINGS, IT'S JUST KIND OF A TARGET THRESHOLD AND I WOULD CALL THAT, IN MY OPINION, THE INDUSTRY STANDARD. YOU COULD CERTAINLY GO LOWER THAN THAT. BUT IF YOU DO GO LOWER THAN THAT, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT WOULDN'T BE MY RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE US HIT AT LEAST AN INDUSTRY STANDARD, IF NOT HIGHER. OKAY. RAMESH? THANK YOU, MAYOR. JASON, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND KIM, THANKS FOR ALL THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED. WHEN THIS TOPIC WAS BROUGHT UP LAST TIME, I WAS ONE OF THE PERSONS THAT HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND AT THE TIME I HAD RECOMMENDED THAT WE TARGET A NUMBER GREATER THAN 3% SAVINGS IN NET PRESENT VALUE.

SINCE THEN, KIM HAS SHOWN ME THAT THE 3% IS ACTUALLY KIND OF THE STANDARD FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. AND YEAH, I THINK IT'S NICE FOR US TO WAIT AND SEE IF WE CAN EVER GET A 5%, BUT THE LIKELIHOOD IS PROBABLY FAR OUT. MEANWHILE, WE HAVE SOME IMPORTANT THINGS LIKE HAVING THE ABILITY TO ISSUE A BOND IF NEEDED FOR FIRE STATION. SO, I'M PLANNING TO CHANGE MY MIND AND APPROVE THIS WHEN IT COMES UP FOR THE VOTE LATER TODAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS THERE. I'LL JUST QUICKLY GO THROUGH ON THE CRDC. SAME EXACT FORMAT YOU SEE THERE. THE ONE SERIES OF BONDS THAT THE CRDC HAS OUTSTANDING ARE THE 2014. THE

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THEY'RE STILL VERY HIGH CREDIT, BUT THEY'RE NOT AAA LIKE THE CITY IS. SO HIGHER RATE STILL SITTING WITH THAT 3% NET PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS. AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THAT WOULD EQUATE TO ALMOST $640,000 ON A PRESENT VALUE BASIS. ONCE AGAIN, FINAL MATURITY AUGUST 2038, NO EXTENSION. ONCE AGAIN, ALL OF THE COST OF ISSUANCE AND UNDERWRITING FEES AND THOSE EQUATE TO ABOUT 1.9% OF PAR IN THIS CASE ARE ALL FULLY ACCOUNTED FOR. AND THEN THE PV SAVINGS AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW WOULD BE ABOUT 327,000. SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO GO. I HAD THE ANALYSIS I HAD.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO UP OR GO DOWN QUITE 3/10 OF 1%, BUT CLOSE TO THAT IN ORDER TO RESET. THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS IS IT STILL GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY, ASSUMING YOUR APPROVAL, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE CRDC, ASSUMING THE BOARD'S APPROVAL, IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO GO IN AND UNDERTAKE THESE REFUNDINGS, CAPTURE THE SAVINGS IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. IF WE DON'T, NOTHING BAD HAPPENS. YOU JUST KEEP THE DEBT SERVICE CURRENTLY AS IT IS AND WE ALWAYS HAVE THIS ABILITY TO COME BACK GOING FORWARD.

SO, WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. I DON'T RECALL TALKING ABOUT THESE CRDC BONDS BEFORE.

DID WE TALK ABOUT THESE BEFORE? SO, THIS IS NEW. SO, WE DID TALK ABOUT THEM IN FEBRUARY AT THE RETREAT. I SHOWED YOU THIS, THE GO OR THE COS. AND THEN WE, I SHOWED YOU THE REVENUE. BUT THIS HAS NOT BEEN A COUNCIL ITEM FOR ACTION. OKAY. AND IT'S NOT TONIGHT EITHER. THIS WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE PARAMETERS BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE BOARD, THE BOARD HAS TO APPROVE IT BEFORE COUNCIL CAN APPROVE IT.

OKAY. AND THIS ON THE RIGHT.

YOUR BOX IS ON THE RIGHT.

THAT'S BASED ON TODAY'S RATES.

THOSE WERE RATES AS A CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON FRIDAY. I MEAN RECENTLY. YES, SIR. AND I HAD ANOTHER ONE, BUT I DON'T RECALL WHAT IT IS.

SO THAT'S FINE. I JUST HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT CRDC.

YOU SAID THEY'RE RATED LOWER.

IS THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THE MORE VOLATILE NATURE OF SALES TAX? THAT'S EXACTLY IT. OKAY. THAT'S EXACTLY IT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. ACTUALLY, COUNCIL MEMBER NEIGHBORS MADE THE POINT I WAS GOING TO MAKE. THANK YOU.

SO, WILL YOU BE PRESENTING TO THE CRDC BOARD? YES, SIR.

AND IF THE OTHER ONE IS TWO TENTHS, WE NEED ABOUT A THREE, TEN. SO, THE TIMING OF THIS ONE WILL BE A BIG DETERMINING FACTOR ON WHETHER THIS ONE GOES THROUGH.

IF I'M READING THIS BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE STILL TWO MONTHS OUT FROM CRDC ACTION AND COUNCIL ACTION. IT IS, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY RATES COULD DECREASE, IT COULD INCREASE DURING THAT TIME. BUT YES, WE'LL HAVE, WE HAVE TO WAIT TO GET THAT FORMAL APPROVAL. I, I ATTENDED A CONFERENCE LAST WEEK AND THERE WAS A, KIM, YOU'RE GOING TO GET ME THE ACRONYM, THE GFAO. GFOA? YEAH, THAT ONE.

GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT NATIONWIDE.

THERE WAS, THERE WAS ABOUT $4.7 BILLION IN BONDS THAT WERE AVAILABLE.

NO, I'M SORRY, THERE'S $4.7 BILLION DOLLARS AVAILABLE TO FUND BONDS AND THERE'S $6 BILLION OF BONDS AVAILABLE.

SO, THEY WERE SAYING THAT THERE WAS AN OVERSUPPLY IN THE BOND MARKET. THEY WEREN'T EXPECTING TO SEE THE RATES DROP MUCH.

THAT WAS KIND OF THEIR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY, WHAT THEIR SPECIFIC DATA SHOWS. I WILL TELL YOU THOUGH THAT I'VE SOLD ROUGHLY 20 DEALS THIS YEAR, TEXAS BASED AND HAVE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH IT. SO, TEXAS TRADES VERY WELL IN THE MARKET.

THE OTHER THING IS, THIS WAS NATIONWIDE AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY, BECAUSE I DO A LITTLE BIT OF WORK OUTSIDE OF TEXAS. IT IS ABSOLUTELY A DIFFERENT RECEPTION FOR DIFFERENT STATES OTHER THAN TEXAS. SO, THE, THE AAA AS WELL AS YOUR SALES TAX REVENUE CORPORATION IS DOUBLE A, TRIPLE A. AND SO THOSE WILL SELL VERY, VERY WELL. I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT YOU. I'M SURE. I WAS LISTENING TO SOME C AND D RATED. THOSE I CAN'T SPEAK TO. THANK YOU, KEVIN. I JUST WANTED TO. ARE YOU GOING TO BE PRESENTING OR WILL THIS BE KIND OF A CRDC? WILL THIS KIND OF BE ANOTHER TAG TEAM APPROACH ON THAT? OKAY. I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. I DEFINITELY THINK IT WOULD BE VERY INFORMATIVE TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CRDC. SO JUST I WAS JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE GET SOMETHING SIMILAR. THANK YOU.

THE QUESTION I HAD IS DO WE

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OKAY, SO LET'S SAY WORST CASE SCENARIO, RATES STAY ELEVATED. WE'RE SITTING HERE A YEAR FROM NOW AND RATES HAVE COME BACK DOWN.

YOU STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO CALL THEM AT THAT. AND WE PUT A 12-MONTH EXPIRATION ON THIS. IS THAT RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT WE DID? I BELIEVE IT'S 12 MONTHS. 12 MONTHS EXPIRATION ON THIS AND WOULDN'T DO IT AGAIN.

OKAY. OKAY, THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON.

DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION REGARDING THE PROPOSED OAKTOWN SPECIAL DISTRICT CONSIDERATIONS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION IS INTENDED TO RECEIVE COUNCIL DIRECTION REGARDING SEVERAL FOUNDATIONAL COMPONENTS OF A POTENTIAL OLD TOWN SPECIAL DISTRICT FRAMEWORK, INCLUDING GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE, NAMING CONVENTION, GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES, AND A POTENTIAL STATUTORY PROVISION RELATED TO ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION WITHIN THE DISTRICT. THESE FOUNDATIONAL COMPONENTS REPRESENT THE FIRST STEP IN ESTABLISHING THE FRAMEWORK, THE PROPOSED DISTRICT, AND WILL INFORM FUTURE LEGISLATIVE DRAFTING. AT THE MAY 26 COUNCIL WORK SESSION, COUNCIL RECEIVED AN OVERVIEW OF POTENTIAL DISTRICT CONCEPTS AND EXAMPLES FROM EXISTING TEXAS SPECIAL DISTRICTS.

SINCE THAT DISCUSSION, STAFF HAVE CONTINUED EVALUATING DISTRICT FRAMEWORKS, REVIEWING COUNCIL FEEDBACK AND COORDINATING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND LEGISLATIVE PARTNERS.

ADDITIONALLY, DURING THE MAY 26 WORK SESSION, COUNCIL REQUESTED INFORMATION REGARDING WHETHER A DISTRICT SPECIFIC STATUTORY PROVISION COULD ALLOW AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PURCHASED FROM A PERMITTED ESTABLISHMENT TO BE CARRIED AND CONSUMED OUTSIDE OF THAT ESTABLISHMENT BUT WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT. STAFF HAS SINCE RECEIVED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REGARDING THAT TOPIC, WHICH WILL BE DISCUSSED AS PART OF TONIGHT'S FRAMEWORK DISCUSSION. COUNCIL ALSO DISCUSSED THE CONCEPT OF REINVESTING SALES TAX GENERATED WITHIN THE SPECIAL DISTRICT BACK INTO THE DISTRICT TO CONTINUE FUTURE ACTIVATION AND PROGRAMMING. THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS PROVIDED THE DIRECTION THAT SUCH REINVESTMENT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH FUTURE BUDGETARY STRATEGIES. IT WOULD NOT REQUIRE INCLUSION IN THE ENABLING LEGISLATION.

STAFF'S GOAL THIS EVENING IS TO RECEIVE DIRECTION REGARDING GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE NAMING CONVENTION, GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES AND WHETHER SUCH A STATUTORY ALCOHOL PROVISION SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE FUTURE LEGISLATIVE DRAFTING.

THIS SLIDE ILLUSTRATES THE OVERALL PROCESS ASSOCIATED WITH CREATING A SPECIAL DISTRICT LEGISLATION, INCLUDING THE KEY DECISIONS AND ACTIONS THAT WILL OCCUR THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

PHASE ONE IS FOCUSED ON ESTABLISHING THE DISTRICT FRAMEWORK THROUGH ENABLING LEGISLATION.

THIS IS THE PHASE WE ARE CURRENTLY IN AND INCLUDES THE FRAMEWORK DECISIONS BEFORE COUNCIL TO MAKE. PHASE TWO INCLUDES THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS ITSELF, INCLUDING LEGISLATIVE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS, BILL DRAFTING AND LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY.

DURING THIS PHASE, COUNCIL MAY ALSO BE ASKED TO DISCUSS AND PROVIDE DIRECTION REGARDING FUTURE IMPLEMENTATION CONSIDERATIONS AND ANY LOCAL ORDINANCES THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE SHOULD THE LEGISLATION ULTIMATELY BE APPROVED. PHASE THREE WOULD OCCUR ONLY IF LEGISLATION IS APPROVED. IT WOULD INCLUDE IMPLEMENTATION ACTIVITIES SUCH AS BOARD ORGANIZATION BYLAWS, PLANNING AND ADOPTION OF ANY LOCAL ORDINANCES NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THE DISTRICT. AS SHOWN HERE. STAFF IS CURRENTLY IN PHASE ONE, THE DISTRICT FRAMEWORK PHASE. THE PHASE FOCUSES ON ESTABLISHING THE FOUNDATIONAL ELEMENTS THAT WILL SHAPE THE ENABLING LEGISLATION AND GUIDE FUTURE LEGISLATIVE DRAFTING. THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION IS TO RECEIVE COUNCIL DIRECTION REGARDING THE FRAMEWORK COMPONENTS IDENTIFIED IN THIS PHASE BEFORE MOVING TO THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.

IN ADDITION TO THE ITEMS SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE, STAFF WILL ALSO BE SEEKING DIRECTION REGARDING WHETHER THE ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION PROVISION SHOULD BE INCLUDED WITHIN THE ENABLING LEGISLATION. SO, THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING TONIGHT.

IN ADDITION TO THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE STATUTORY THAT ALLOWS BEVERAGES PURCHASED IN A PERMITTED PLACE TO BE CONSUMED OUTSIDE OF THAT PLACE. SO, YOU WOULD BE LEAVING THE RESTAURANT BUT STILL WITHIN THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES THAT THIS PRESENTATION WAS FINALIZED WHEN THAT INFORMATION IS RECEIVED.

SO JUST KNOW IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE SLIDE, BUT WE STILL WILL BE TALKING ABOUT IT. SO, IF COUNCIL WISHES TO INCLUDE THE AUTHORITY THAT SPECIFIC REGULATIONS GOVERNING HOW THE PROVISION SO THIS IS THE ALCOHOLIC PROVISION THAT ALLOWS CONSUMPTION WOULD OPERATE. THAT IS A DECISION WE NEED TONIGHT. SO FUTURE CONVERSATIONS WOULD INCLUDE WHAT THAT REGULATION OR ENFORCEMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

TONIGHT IS JUST AROUND IF COUNCIL WISHES

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IF THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE LEGISLATION, THEN IT WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE AS AN OPTION UNLESS ADDITIONAL LEGISLATION IS PURSUED AND APPROVED DURING FUTURE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS. SO, WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND RATIFY THE ORIGINAL SPECIAL DISTRICT TO INCLUDE THAT LATER ON.

WITH THAT CONTEXT, STAFF IS SEEKING COUNCIL DIRECTION REGARDING WHETHER THAT PROPOSED ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION SHOULD BE INCLUDED.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST DECISION I WILL PAUSE HERE. MY GOAL IS TO PAUSE IN BETWEEN ALL OF THESE TO ALLOW FOR A DISCUSSION DECISION.

RATHER WAITING TILL THE END BECAUSE THERE ARE COUPLE DECISIONS I'M GOING TO SPEAK UP BASED ON THE SURVEYS THAT WE DID AND ALL OF THE FEEDBACK FROM VIRTUALLY EVERYBODY IN THE AREA, LIKE OVER 80% OF THE RESPONDENTS, IT'S GOT TO BE A YAY ON THAT. I DON'T SEE HOW THIS WOULD WORK WITHOUT THAT. WHAT'S THAT? YES. WHAT? NO, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING. RIGHT. SO, I MEAN SHE NEEDS A YES. YES, FOR ME.

BUT THIS IS ON THE ABILITY TO WALK AROUND WITH RIGHT ESTABLISHMENT. YES, CORRECT.

THE INITIAL WAS JUST AROUND BEING ABLE TO PERMIT A NON RESTAURANT LOCATION THAT'S ABLE TO SERVE ALCOHOL. THIS IS.

COULD YOU DISPENSE IT INSIDE THE LOCATION, CONSUME IT OUTSIDE? YES.

MARK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LONG-TERM GOAL. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT AREA IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE. AND GOING BACK TO THE LEGISLATURE TO MAKE ANY KIND OF CHANGE WOULD BE VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE PROBABLY. I MEAN IT'S A ONE-TIME SHOT. SO, WE NEED TO GIVE AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY. I MEAN I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO TURN THIS INTO MARDI GRAS OR, YEAH, OR LIKE CITY OF ABSENCE TYPE OF EVENT, BUT HAVING THAT KIND OF FLEXIBILITY WHERE YOU COULD HAVE MULTIPLE VENUES DOWN THERE AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GOING FROM PLACE TO PLACE. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY.

BOB? YEAH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I VISITED WITH MS. WILLIS ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS IS ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT DOWN THERE. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE COVER. I ASSUME WE WANT TO HAVE A BEER ESTABLISHMENT OR A MICROBREWERY OR A MICRO DISTILLERY OR A TASTING ROOM AND A WINE BAR. SO, AND I DON'T THINK I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND WE REGULATE THE LICENSING OF THAT. SO, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE, THOSE KINDS OF USES ARE ALLOWED. OKAY.

THAT WOULD BE ONE THING THAT WE WOULD DO THE STATE WOULD CONTROL THE ACTUAL DISPENSING OF THE ALCOHOL.

SO, WHATEVER THE STATE REQUIRES FOR YOU TO WALK OUT OF THE BAR, RESTAURANT, WINE BAR, MICROBREWERY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT. THERE'S VERY LITTLE ACTUAL LAW IN ABOUT CONSUMPTION. YOU CAN WALK AROUND WITH A BEER INSIDE RIGHT NOW. SO, UNLESS YOU. BECAUSE I, I WENT THROUGH AND CHECKED ALL THAT.

SO, IT'S REALLY ABOUT LATE HOURS. WE DON'T HAVE LATE HOURS. SO, WE WOULD WANT TO INCLUDE, TO MAKE SURE WE COVERED THAT.

IN OTHER WORDS, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES CAN BE SERVED AND CONSUMED AFTER MIDNIGHT.

RIGHT NOW, THE STATE LAW, THE STATE GOVERNS 2:15 TO 7 IN THE MORNING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO, YOU CAN'T CONSUME ALCOHOL IN A PUBLIC PLACE AFTER TWO OR YOU CAN'T SERVE IT AFTER 2:15 OR UNDER A LICENSED FACILITY CAN'T. YOU CAN'T BE IN THERE WITH THE DRINK. THAT'S WHY THE CUTOFF IS AT 2 O', CLOCK, SO YOU GET 15 MINUTES TO DRINK YOUR LAST CALL. SO, IT'S THAT AFTER HOURS THING.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE ENCOMPASS THE USES OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES THAT ARE ALLOWED INTO THE CODE AND THEN WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CODE FOR US TO GOVERN THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE, YOU CAN'T LEAVE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT WITH YOUR DRINK. AND WE CAN PUT SOME OTHER LAYERS ON THAT. SO, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COVER. WHAT DO YOU WANT DOWN THERE? AND MAKE SURE WE GIVE AS BROAD A SWEEP AS YOU WANT. NO LIQUOR STORES, I WOULD TAKE IT, BUT WE WANT THE FACILITIES.

IN ORDER TO GET SOME OF THE FACILITIES THAT YOU REALLY WANT DOWN THERE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE ELECTION TO OPEN THE CITY UP. AND IT'S

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BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE THE USES THAT YOU WANT.

SO, THANK YOU. SO, IF WE BUILD AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY AS POSSIBLE INTO THE LEGISLATION, WHERE DO WE SET THE PARAMETERS FOR THE ACTUAL GOVERNANCE? HERE BY ORDINANCE, THAT'S WHAT TO ALLOW US TO HAVE THOSE USES. AND WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND TO THE LANGUAGE WOULD BE THAT THE CITY WOULD THEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO REGULATE THROUGH THE CHARTER OR ORDINANCE THE RESTRICTIONS AND THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE DISTRICT. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. AND SO THAT WE WOULD JUST HAVE ORDINANCES THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADOPT TO SET THOSE PARAMETERS OF, YOU KNOW, AFTER OUR HOURS. WE NEED THE ABILITY TO ESTABLISH AFTER HOURS BECAUSE NORMALLY RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE ELECTION. I MEAN, BECAUSE TO ME, I MEAN THOSE STUDIES WERE TALKING ABOUT HAVING A BAR, A FULL BAR, BAR SERVICE UNTIL WHENEVER, TWO IN THE MORNING OR WHATEVER.

I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T RECALL ANYTHING ABOUT WALKING AROUND. I, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS TOO THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE PRESERVE MORE OF A FAMILY FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT DOWN THERE. AND I'VE BEEN TO BOURBON STREET, YOU KNOW, AT MIDNIGHT AND THERE'S NOTHING FAMILY FRIENDLY ABOUT IT. BUT MARK MAKES A GOOD POINT. IF YOU KNOW, THIS IS PROBABLY OUR ONE SHOT.

SO AS LONG AS THE COUNCIL CAN REGULATE THIS BY ORDINANCE. AS TO THE SPECIFICS, MAYBE INITIALLY WE DECIDE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DON'T WANT THE WALKING AROUND JUST YET. LET'S JUST TRY TO GET A BAR DOWN THERE BECAUSE YOU GOTTA HAVE SOMEONE TO SERVE HER. AND YOU CAN SAY THAT THE COUNCIL COULD ESTABLISH BY LOCAL ORDINANCE THE IMPLEMENTATION. AND SO, YOU WOULD HAVE TO PASS AN ORDINANCE TO ALLOW PEOPLE WANDERING AROUND WITH LIQUOR, MIXED BEVERAGE OR ALCOHOL OR BEER. WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN SOME ORDINANCES WHERE CITIES HAVE ADOPTED KIND OF THIS, I CALL IT SIP AND STROLL OR SOMETHING FOR BEER AND WINE ONLY. NO HARD WORKER. SO THAT'S AN OPTION.

IT'S ABOUT THE DISPENSING BECAUSE THE REGULATIONS THE STATE HAS ARE ABOUT DISPENSING AND TAKING IT OUT OF THE ESTABLISHMENT.

THAT'S WHERE THEY CATCH YOU.

IT'S NOT THAT YOU CAN'T CONSUME IT OUTSIDE, YOU JUST CAN'T GET IT OUTSIDE UNLESS YOU BRING YOUR OWN. RIGHT.

LIKE MY GRANDPA. COULD WE.

COULD WE ISSUE. COULD WE DECIDE, FOR EXAMPLE, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MARDI GRAS IN MARCH, A CITY MARDI GRAS DEAL. COULD WE DECIDE THAT WE WOULD ONLY HAVE THE WALK AROUND LIKE.

LIKE ISSUE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THAT EVENT WHERE WE WOULD ALLOW IT FOR THAT EVENT, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED YEAR-ROUND AS IN THE NORMAL COURSE? YES.

YEAH. OKAY. ONE YEAR HOME RULE TWO. WE WOULD WRITE THE LEGISLATION BROAD ENOUGH FOR US TO ADAPT WHATEVER REGULATIONS WE WANTED TO TAILOR FOR OUR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

YEAH, I, I MEAN, HAVING THE FLEXIBILITY MAKES SENSE.

HAVING THE ONE SHOT MAKES SENSE. YOU HAVE A VERSION RIGHT NOW IN A SPECIAL EVENT, LIKE, I THINK THERE WAS A COUPLE OF TIMES WHERE WE HAD OAK FEST AND WE ALLOWED BEAR GARDEN OUT AT THE PARK. AND THAT WAS SO WE WOULD HAVE THAT BUILDING. AND WE WROTE THAT IN AN ORDER BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE ALCOHOL IN THE PARK EXCEPT FOR UNDER A SPECIAL EVENT WITH AN AUTHORIZATION FROM THE COUNCIL. OKAY, THANK YOU, BOB. YEAH, ACTUALLY, BOB, REALLY, I TOUCHED ON KIND OF A POINT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE WAS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FUTURE DOWN IN THAT AREA WHERE, YOU KNOW, FRIDAY NIGHT WE HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE BANDS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND STUFF. AND SO, I DO WANT SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, GO INTO THE ESTABLISHMENT, PURCHASE A BEVERAGE AND THEN COME OUT AND ENJOY THE MUSIC.

SO DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO HAVE THAT, THAT ABILITY TO REGULATE THAT. MY SPECIFIC QUESTION WAS, CAN WE, CAN WE REGULATE THE WALKING AROUND, IF YOU WILL, TO A CERTAIN AREA WITHIN THE DISTRICT, OR DO WE HAVE TO ALLOW THE ENTIRE DISTRICT TO BE WALKING AROUND? WE WOULD HAVE. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU COULD TAILOR IT THE WAY YOU WANT TO TAILOR IT. THE PROBLEM MIGHT BE ENFORCING IT MORE THAN SURE. WHETHER WE COULD COBBLE TOGETHER SOMETHING. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO TO THIS CONCEPT OF ALLOWING WALKING AROUND WITH ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, THEN YOU GOT TO THINK ABOUT THOSE AREAS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT WHERE SOMEONE MAY NOT BE PARTICIPATING, BUT WALKING OUT THERE AND GOING

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RIGHT, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S THE KIND OF LIKE YOU SAID, OAK FEST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE WE HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, ENTERTAINMENT GOING ON. YOU PURCHASE AT A SEPARATE AREA BUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HAVE ROW IN THAT PARK SITUATION I THINK IS WHAT WE CALLED IT. YOU COULD STAY THERE WITH YOUR THING AND THEN KEPT THE FAMILY FRIENDLY PART.

AND THEN IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A BEER OR ADULT BEVERAGE, YOU HAD TO STAY IN THAT AREA.

SO, THE SAME CONCEPT. SO YES, YOU CAN DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. I SEEM TO REMEMBER THAT THE ARTS FOUNDATION DID AT ART SIP AND STROLL FOR MANY YEARS. SO, IT'S THE ARTS COUNCIL. COUNCIL DID IT. YEAH, WE STILL DO IT, DON'T WE? I THINK THE DIFFERENCE THERE IS THEY'RE NOT SELLING IT. SO THAT'S WHAT. THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE. AND CORRECT ME, THERE'S LIKE NINE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF ALCOHOL BEVERAGE PERMITTING BY THE STATE. OH, AT LEAST.

YEAH, THERE'S A BUNCH OF THEM. I MEAN, AND SO WHAT PART OF WHAT YOU GET INTO IS YOU CAN PICK ONE AND IT MAY DO 90% OF WHAT YOU WANT, BUT YOU GOT TO GO. IT'S A LABYRINTH OF KNUCKLEHEADEDNESS, BUT IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS.

THAT'S BETTER THAN I CAN PUT IT. BRIANNA, YOU HAD A QUESTION? YEAH, I MEAN, I WANT WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, MARK, ABOUT THE FLEXIBILITY.

SO, I GUESS I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT. AND I, I GUESS I WANT TO. I'M KIND OF WITH YOU, JIM, ON IDENTIFYING WHAT THOSE PARAMETERS ARE.

WHAT'S THE TIMING FOR THAT? LIKE WHEN DO WE HAVE TO START TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT THAT'S BEEN PUT OUT HERE. RIGHT.

LIKE TWO O' CLOCK OR WALKING AROUND OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

I WANT US TO BE MINDFUL WE ALSO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD TO THINK OF. AND SO, WHEN DO WE. FOR NOW, YOU NEED OUR OKAY ON MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN AT WHAT POINT DO WE START TO PUT CORRECT. SO, BETWEEN NOW AND REALLY THE END OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

SO. OKAY, WE GOT TIME. YEAH, WE'VE GOT TIME. SO, IT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY CREATING THESE ORDINANCES THAT BEST CASE SCENARIO THIS HAS PASSED THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THEN WE CAN BRING THEM IN THE VERY NEXT COUNCIL. YOU WOULDN'T HEAR ABOUT THIS AGAIN UNTIL AT LEAST IT PASSES.

OKAY. YES, BUT WE, THE, THE, THE DETAIL PART WE CAN CONTINUE. THIS IS JUST A FRAMEWORK. GOTCHA. STEP ONE.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET AHEAD OF THE DETAILS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT NOT GET LOST IN THE DETAILS OF IT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. TO FOLLOWING UP ON COUNCIL MEMBER HINOJOSA'S. I THINK WE HAVE TIME TILL THE FIRST APPLICANT TO DO A CITY. RIGHT. I MEAN, WE CAN FORMALIZE AND FINALIZE ALL THE RULES BEFORE WE GRANT THE FIRST PERMISSION OR CEO TO ANY BUSINESS. WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT THAT LONG. BUT YEAH, I THINK I'M HEARING THUMBS UP FROM EVERYBODY ON THIS ONE.

DON, YOU DIDN'T.

YOU WERE PRETTY QUIET. THIS IS ON THE ALCOHOL. YEAH. WHAT ARE WE ON THE SIDE? I DON'T SEE IT UP THERE IT IS. THIS IS HOW TO GET THIS ES SO WE CAN BE READY FOR THE NIGHT BEFORE WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION.

OKAY. SO JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY. BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE. I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT. RIGHT? WHAT'S THAT? I THOUGHT THE ALCOHOL THING WAS THE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT. WELL, THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF IT. OKAY. I'M FINE. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS A HEADS UP, I DID HAVE A CHANCE LAST MONDAY TO HOST SENATOR PARKER HERE. HE WAS TOURING MCLAREN AND I HIJACKED HIM AND TOOK HIM IN MY CAR AND SHOWED HIM OLD TOWN AND KIND OF GAVE HIM AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

HE SAID HE WAS SUPPORTIVE AND WOULD MOVE IT FORWARD IF IT NEEDS TO GO BEFORE THE SENATE. SO, I THINK WE. I THINK WE'VE GOT HIS SUPPORT ON IT, WHICH IS A GOOD THING. HE GOT TO SIT IN ONE. AND REPRESENTATIVE OR NONDISC GARCIA HAS ALREADY. AND SHE HAS ALREADY STATED HER SUPPORT AS WELL. GOTCHA. CORRECT. AND OUR LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANT. SO, JENNIFER IS WHERE HE WAS. AFTER EVERY SINGLE MEETING SHE GOES BACK AND UPDATES IT AS WELL.

GOTCHA. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO THE NEXT IS THE NAME. SO, INTERVIEWING THE SPECIAL LEGISLATION. DISTRICTS THAT REALLY HAVE THE SAME PURPOSE IS WHAT IS PROVIDED, WHICH IS ENTERTAINMENT, TOURISM, RECREATION AND OR THE ARTS.

THERE IS A COMMONALITY BETWEEN THE NAMES. SO, MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, WHICH TYPICALLY EMPHASIZES GOVERNMENT COORDINATION, ACTIVATION AND PROGRAMMING. IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE AND UNIFICATION ACTIVITIES AND ENTERTAINMENT LANGUAGE IS INCORPORATED WHEN A DESTINATION ACTIVITY OR VISITOR SERVING AREAS ARE INCLUDED WITHIN THE DISTRICT PURPOSE.

BASED ON THE NAMING CONVENTIONS IDENTIFIED IN THE EXISTING LEGISLATION, STAFF DEVELOPED SEVERAL ILLUSTRATIVE NAMING EXAMPLES.

THESE EXAMPLES ARE NOT INTENDED

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HOWEVER, THEY ARE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT THIS COULD BE CALLED.

AT THIS TIME, I WOULD WELCOME DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION REGARDING THE NAME AND THE IDENTITY OF THE DISTRICT.

THANK YOU. QUICK QUESTION, CALIE. DOES IT REALLY MATTER, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY WE DECIDE TO GO AND NAME IT ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. DOES IT PREVENT US FROM DOING ANY INFRASTRUCTURE WORK THERE? IT DOESN'T. SO, THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING, WHICH POTENTIALLY COULD BE USED AS EXAMPLES LATER ON THESE ARE THE NAMING CONVENTIONS. SO TYPICALLY, THEY WERE EITHER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT OR IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

ENTERTAINMENT IS IN THERE, JUST REALLY IS. HEY, HERE'S KIND OF THE PURPOSE OF IT, KEVIN. OLD TOWN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. NEXT. I LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT CONVEYS A LITTLE BIT MORE WHY WE'RE DOING IT, WHAT WE'RE INTENDING BY IT.

RIGHT. I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S GOING TO COME PARTY AT THE OLD TOWN JUDGMENT DISTRICT. IT JUST DOESN'T CONVEY THE RIGHT VIBE.

DOES IT REALLY ROLL OFF THE TONGUE. JUST QUICKLY. I LOVE, I THINK ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT ENCAPSULATES WHAT WE'RE DOING DOWN THERE WITH THE ART CENTER, WITH THE PROGRAMMING THAT IS DOWN THERE. AND I, YOU KNOW, SAY IT TONGUE IN CHEEK. LET'S JUST, YOU KNOW, NEXT. RIGHT.

BUT I THINK IT REALLY THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO DOWN HERE. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE A FUN, INVITING PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, BE ENTERTAINED, HAVE A GOOD TIME, YOU KNOW, ENJOY SOME SOCIAL LIFE AND STUFF. SO, I THINK IT, IT'S SIMPLE, IT'S EASY AND ENCAPSULATED.

YEAH. THESE ARE JUST. ONCE ONE DOES IT, THEY ALL TEND TO FOLLOW. AND THIS WAS REALLY IN THE CATEGORY. SO NEXT WOULD BE THE GOVERNANCE. WHAT'S THAT? DID WE GET AGREEMENT? I DIDN'T HEAR IT OVER HERE. I'M SORRY.

WE HAD FIVE OF THE SIX THUMBS UP. OKAY. WE CAN CALL IT O10. YEAH. WAIT, WHAT? OKAY, SO WE KNOW. I HAD NODS AND THUMBS UP FROM FIVE OF THE SIX OF YOU. 010. IS THAT WHAT WE. IRISH IN NATURE? I JUST WANTED. I JUST HEARD YOU SAY YOU NEEDED TO HAVE SOME POLICY, REMEMBER. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S SIMPLE. THE NEXT POLICY CONSIDERATION IS GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE. SO AGAIN, REVIEWING ALL THE EXISTING SPECIAL DISTRICT LEGISLATION THAT IS IN SOME OF THE SAME ARENA IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PURSUE.

THESE ARE REALLY THE BOARD COMPOSITIONS THAT EXISTED.

SO, A CITY COUNCIL BOARD IS JUST THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO, THE ENTIRE DISTRICT BOARD WOULD JUST BE THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANOTHER IS A COUNCIL APPOINTED BOARD. SO THAT WOULD BE A BOARD THAT IS MADE UP OF INDIVIDUALS APPOINTED BY COUNCIL. A HYBRID BOARD COMBINES THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WITH APPOINTED COMMUNITY OR BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVES. AND THEN THERE ARE DISTRICTS EXISTING THAT DO HAVE A TEMPORARY COUNCIL BOARD. SO, THE LEGISLATION SAYS THE BOARD IS GOING TO BE THIS COUNCIL UNTIL THIS TIME AND OR THIS DECISION. AND THEN THAT TEMPORARY BOARD PICKS THE FINAL BOARD. MARK, AT WHAT POINT DO WE HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION ON THE TYPE OF BOARD? IN THIS ENABLING FRAMEWORK? SO. ENABLING FRAMEWORK? YES.

OKAY, I'M SORRY, CAN THAT CHANGE? SO, IT. SOME DISTRICT LEGISLATION HAS BASICALLY AN ENABLING PROVISION THAT SAYS SHOULD COUNCIL EVER WANT THIS TO CHANGE, IT WOULD GO THROUGH A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COUNCIL. SO, WE CAN INCLUDE THAT PROVISION. SOME HAVE GOTTEN REALLY DETAILED IN TERMS OF LIKE THE BOARD CANNOT EXCEED 32 MEMBERS OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS, BUT WE CAN PUT THAT MECHANISM IN. OKAY, THANK YOU.

RAMESH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK IN THE INTEREST OF BENEFIT OF FAST EXECUTION, I'M IN FAVOR OF TEMPORARY COUNCIL BOARD. SO MAYBE THE DECIDING POINT WOULD BE ONCE THE LAW IS PASSED IN OUR FAVOR AND WE ESTABLISH THAT, THEN WE CAN SAY WE'LL ESTABLISH THE WHATEVER WE DECIDE WE WANT TO DO. SO, I WILL CLARIFY. IF WE DO A TEMPORARY BOARD, WE STILL HAVE TO PICK ANOTHER BOARD TO COME IN WITH IT. YOU HAVE TO DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. I SEE.

IN THAT CASE. SO, PART OF THE STRATEGY PROVIDES BY THE LEGISLATIVE LEGACY CONSULTANTS WAS TO INCLUDE A BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVE AND A RESIDENTIAL REPRESENTATIVE.

THAT MAKES IT A LOT MORE PALATABLE AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT. SO REALLY STRENGTHENS YOUR REPRESENTATION. YEAH, I'M GOOD, MAN. I'LL GO TEMPORARY, FOLLOWED BY HYBRID. ALL RIGHT, SO I'VE GOT MARK AND THEN JIM AND THEN KEVIN. SO, MARK, I WOULD RATHER SEE A HYBRID BOARD JUST BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET INPUT

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RIGHT, JIM? YEAH. WELL, I THINK THOUGH, IF WE'RE THINKING IF WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING A REINVESTMENT OF SALES TAX BACK INTO THE DISTRICT, THERE'S NO OTHER COMMISSION OR BOARD THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO SPEND TAX REVENUE. SO, I WOULD WANT IT TO BE A CITY COUNCIL BOARD. IF WE WENT TO A HYBRID, I'D RATHER DO SOMETHING LIKE AN ADVISORY COUNCIL THAT WOULD, OR, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF EX OFFICIO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THAT WOULD SIT ON THE BOARD, ATTEND THE MEETINGS. WE GET THE INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS, WHICH I DO THINK IS A GOOD IDEA AND IMPORTANT. BUT I WOULDN'T HAVE SPENDING AUTHORITY FOR TAX DOLLARS INVESTED IN ANYONE THAT'S NOT ON COUNCIL PERSONALLY. SO, JIM, I'M GOING TO ASK A QUESTION TO CALIE ON YOUR BEHALF. ASK AWAY, MAN. SO IS THAT THE WAY THAT THIS WOULD WORK? THE DISTRICT WOULD HAVE SPENDING AUTHORITY. WOULDN'T THAT STILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL? SO, IT COULD BE A BUDGETING STRATEGY IN TERMS OF THE SALES TAX THAT'S GENERATED, THE DISTRICT CAN TURN AROUND AND BE PUT BACK INTO ACTIVATION PROGRAMMING.

SO THAT WAS A DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENED THE LAST TIME IN TERMS OF LIKE THE EVENTS THAT HAPPENED DOWN THERE AND THAT THE MAINTENANCE, THE REGULAR KIND OF OPERATIONS WOULD STILL REMAIN WITH THE CITY. YEAH.

INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE STREETS, WE'LL CALL THAT. YES, OR THE TEMPORARY. SO, IF YOU PUT IN TEMPORARY BOARD, WHICH COULD BE COUNCIL AT FIRST, THEN THAT COULD BE THE BYLAWS TO WHERE ANY SPENDING DECISION DOES HAVE TO, TO BE FINALLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL. SO, IT COULD BE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS BOARD THAT THEN HAS TO GO THROUGH COUNCIL. THAT'D BE LIKE THE CRDC IS CURRENTLY.

YEAH, YEAH. I MEAN, I JUST THINK ULTIMATELY, IT'S STILL GOT TO BE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS MAKING THE AUTHORITY REGARDING DISPENSATION OF ANY TAX REVENUE. KEVIN? YOU ACTUALLY SAID SOMETHING I WAS GOING TO TOUCH ON. I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BE A TEMPORARY COUNCIL BOARD AND THEN MOVE TO A STRUCTURE SIMILAR TO THE STATE, THE CRDC BOARD WITH WHERE WE HAVE A COMBINATION OF COUNCIL MEMBERS. YEAH.

BUT I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT SOME REPRESENTATION FROM BUSINESS DOWN THERE, SOME, SOME CITIZENS OF THAT, THAT DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE.

SO, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US GO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH FINAL SPENDING AUTHORITY REMAINING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, SO. AND I GUESS YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO STAY AT THE SEVEN MEMBERS IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT. YOU COULD MAKE IT. YEAH. AND AGAIN, THAT CAN BE THAT PROVISION OF SHOULD THIS BOARD COMPOSITION CHANGE. HERE'S A MECHANISM.

OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS HERE.

WE'VE GOT. I HEARD ONE STARTING OUT WITH A TEMPORARY COUNCIL GOING TO HYBRID. I HEARD ONE STARTING OUT WITH A TEMPER. YOU WERE PROMOTING THIS COUNCIL ONLY OR ULTIMATE COUNCIL AUTHORITY.

EITHER WAY ACCOMPLISHES MICHAEL. OKAY, WELL, I MEAN, WHAT SHOULD MEAN THAT WHAT HE WAS PROPOSING WOULD BE SO, AND I HEARD KEVIN SAY, I HEARD KEVIN SAY A TEMPORARY COUNCIL BOARD TRANSITIONING TO A HYBRID BOARD THAT WOULD BE SET UP LIKE THE CRDC, STRUCTURED SIMILARLY WHERE THE COUNCIL HAS ULTIMATE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. I'LL DO IT.

KEVIN DID. GUYS, THANK GENIUS.

DON, I THINK YOU STATED IT THERE AT THE END. THE HYBRID BOARD. DO WE HAVE TO, DO WE HAVE TO DECIDE THE COMPOSITION OF THE HYBRID BOARD TODAY? YES. SO, IT KEEPS COMING. IT KEEPS GOING. SO EVENTUALLY THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DECIDING TODAY. SO, THIS IS JUST A SAMPLE OF THIS. SO, IT'S GOING TO BE WHOSE ON THE BOARD. THE TERMS. OKAY, SO THIS, THIS DOES.

ORIGINALLY, I WAS THINKING HYBRID BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE HAD SOME FLEXIBILITY. I THOUGHT SO TOO. EVOLVE IT AS WE SAW FIT.

BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THAT. SO, WE CAN PUT THE MECHANISM IN THE LEGISLATION THAT SAYS SHOULD THIS BOARD COMPOSITION WANT TO BE CHANGED, THAT IS PRETTY COMMON IN THESE. SO, IT GIVES A MECHANISM OF COUNCIL CAN APPROVE A BOARD COMPOSITION CHANGE. WELL, I'M PROBABLY IN FAVOR OF A HEAVIER CITY COUNCIL BOARD INITIALLY. AND THEN IF WE NEED TO EVOLVE IT, I MEAN I CAN. I CAN SEE THAT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT MECHANISM THAT IS TO DO THAT. BUT JUST A HYBRID THAT HAS THOSE PARAMETERS, I GUESS. YEAH, I THINK WE CAN ACCOMPLISH TO DO A TEMPORARY BOARD FOR EITHER A PERIOD OF TIME OR UNTIL THE COUNCIL DECIDES DIFFERENTLY. AND IT CAN BE A HYBRID WITH. I WOULD QUALIFY IT

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SO, YOU'RE NOT LOCKING IN JUST ALL THE LEGISLATION HAS THE BOARD COMPOSITION PUT IN.

BUT I SAID A MAJORITY OF THEM HAVE THE MECHANISM TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE THINGS EVOLVE. COUNCIL'S EVOLVED.

REALLY? THIS GOES UNTIL FOREVER.

UNTIL FUTURE COUNCIL DECIDES TO DISSOLVE IT. BUT YOU SAID THAT, YOU SAID THAT WE CAN WRITE IT TO WHERE LIKE LET'S SAY WE THROW THIS OUT LIKE THE SITTING, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR MAKE UP THE INITIAL BOARD. RIGHT. AND THEN AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS IN THE FUTURE, WHATEVER THAT IS THEN. OR THE COUNCIL MAY CHANGE THE COMPOSITION OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS BY ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE. YEAH. AND SO, AT THAT POINT, COULD WE THEN DECIDE WHAT THE HYBRID BOARD LOOKS LIKE? AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING. BECAUSE MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO DECIDE WHAT THE HYBRID BOARD IS MADE OF TONIGHT, BUT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS DISTRICT OFF THE GROUND. WE'LL GIVE YOU A HYBRID OPTION. EXACTLY, AND THEN WE CAN, THEN WE CAN GO BACK AND WE CAN ADD THE RESIDENT PIECE. WE CAN ADD THE BUSINESS REPRESENTATION PIECE. BUT WE HAVE THE FUTURE FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT. YOU JUST HAVE TO ADOPT A VIOLENT WILL BE THE ONLY LIMITATION.

IT MAY OR MAY NOT INCLUDE ALL THE COUNCIL. IT MAY OR MAY NOT INCLUDE SOME OF THE COUNCIL.

WE'LL LEAVE THAT OPTION UP. I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY. MARK. I MEAN I DO LIKE THE SUGGESTION UP THERE.

NO OFFENSE MAYOR. I DON'T THINK THE MAYOR SHOULD BE ON THERE. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE TWO ODD PLACE COUNCIL MEMBERS BECAUSE THERE'S 1, 3, 5 AND 7, 2, 4 AND 6. SO I THINK IT SHOULD BE TWO ODD AND ONE EVEN AND NO MAN.

SORRY. WELL, YOU COULD DO NINE AS THE INITIAL. INCLUDE ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THEN ADD ONE. I DON'T WANT TO SAY STAFF MEMBER MICHAEL CHOKING ME OUT BUT THERE COULD BE BE ENOUGH REPRESENTATIVE, ANOTHER COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVE OR RESIDENT AND THE COUNCIL MAY CHANGE COMPOSITION. QUALIFICATIONS IS THE WORD I WOULD USE OF ALL BOARD MEMBERS BY ORDINANCE ADOPTED BY MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL OR A SUPER MAJORITY. CAN I ASK MORE QUESTION? FIVE OUT OF SEVEN.

YES. IS THERE. NOT TRYING TO NITPICK OR ANYTHING BUT LIKE IS THERE A SPECIFIC REASON WHY MAYOR. AND I KNOW I'M POINTING HERE BUT LIKE JUST THE POSITION OF MAYOR NOT, NOT BEING.

WELL, I'M ASSUMING ALL THESE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE VOTING POWER AND OUR MAYOR DOES NOT HAVE VOTING POWER. I, I JUST, I'M JUST CURIOUS AND I UNDERSTAND WE NEED A, WE NEED AN ODD NUMBER BUT JUST. YEAH, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT PIECE OF IT. BUT JUST, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS WAS.

WELL, I CURRENTLY AM ON THE CRDC AND I VOTE THERE BUT YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER IT COMES BACK TO THE COUNCIL WHERE I DON'T GET A VOTE AND THIS WOULD BE THE SAME THING. SO, I'D ACTUALLY COUNTER YOU. I FIND THAT I THINK BEING ON THE CRDC ADDS SOME VALUE. I REALLY DO LIKE HAVING THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BE PART OF THIS BOARD WHETHER AND I'M NOT LOOKING TO ATTEND ANOTHER MEETING BUT I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE MY OPINION. MAYOR.

PRO TEM. THANK YOU SIR. I WOULD.

IN LOOKING AT THIS, HAVING BEEN THROUGH THE INTERVIEWS FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, I WOULD SUGGEST WE MAKE IT MORE LIKE ONE BUSINESS AND OR RESIDENT APPOINTED DIRECTOR FOR THE TWO SLOTS BECAUSE THERE COULD BE TIMES WHEN WE HAVE A COUPLE RESIDENTS SHOW UP TO YOU KNOW, TO SIT AND NO ONE IN THE BUSINESS IS INTERESTED AND THEN YOU KNOW, LIKEWISE.

SO, I, I WOULDN'T TIE OUR HANDS

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THIS IS THE ORIGINAL MAP THAT YOU HAVE SEEN. THIS IS THE MAP OF THE BOUNDARIES THAT WERE REQUESTED. SO GOING BACK HERE, AREAS 1, 5, 4, AND THE RED AREA. SO, THE BLUE AND THE RED AREA ARE NOW THE YELLOW AREA COMBINED. AND THEN PROPOSING HERE, AREAS 1 AND 2 INCLUDE PROPERTY NORTH OF WEST BETHEL AND FREEPORT. AREA 3 EXPANDS THE DISTRICT SOUTHWEST BEYOND THE ORIGINAL BOUNDARIES THAT WERE DISCUSSED. AREA 4 IS PROPERTY WEST OF FREEPORT, AND AREA 5 IS ESSENTIALLY NORTHWEST OF HARD 8. SO REALLY, THE DECISIONS ARE. DO YOU WANT TO INCLUDE ALL OF THEM? LEAVE SOME OUT. WHAT ARE THE GEOGRAPHIC VALUES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR THIS DISTRICT.

RAMESH? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AGAIN, MY TAKE IS GOING BACK TO HOW WE STARTED TODAY. LET'S KEEP IT AS BROAD AS WE CAN.

AND THEN LATER, CITY COUNCIL CAN RESTRICT IF NEEDED. WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THE LEGISLATURE TO EXPLAIN ANYTHING. SO, I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS ENTIRE. SO, I WASN'T HERE FOR THIS MEETING.

BUT ONE, WASN'T FOUR EXPANDED WESTWARD. I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE. I THOUGHT IT WENT ALL THE WAY TO HARD 8 INTO.

NO, ON PAST HARD 8. YEAH, THAT'S WEST FREEPORT. YEAH. THE YELLOW HARD 8 IS IN THE NORTHWEST. OH, I'M SORRY. YELLOW. COMPLETELY MISREAD THEM OUT. I'M SORRY.

NEVER MIND. KEVIN. THE ONLY THING I MIGHT SUGGEST IS IN THE YELLOW AREA, WE'VE GOT THE SENIOR CENTER AND THE SERVICE CENTER. I WONDER IF WE PUSH THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER EAST AND MAYBE NOT QUITE GET THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT JUST THAT LAND THAT'S KIND OF RIGHT THERE. JUST AGAIN, TO KIND OF FUTURE PROOF AND MAKE. I KNOW THAT'S AVAILABLE LAND RIGHT THERE. IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO FUTURE DESIGN, LIKE WITH THE FOREST AND, YOU KNOW, THE TREES AND STUFF RIGHT THERE. JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE. IS THAT, IS THAT PARK ROAD EAST OF THE SENIOR. IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT IT IS? IT IS. SO MAYBE USING THAT AS SOME SORT OF BOUNDARY LINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO BUT AGAIN, THE GRAPEVINE SPRINGS AREA. IT'S KIND OF IN THAT GRAPEVINE SPRINGS AREA. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE JUST BRING THAT DOWN TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS OR WHAT, BUT JUST GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT IN THERE.

JIM. THANK YOU. SO, WHAT ARE THE RAMIFICATIONS OF HAVING LIKE 4 AND 5 IN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS SPECIAL EVENT ALCOHOL? IF YOU OWN ONE OF THOSE WAREHOUSES AND YOU WANTED TO START OPERATING A PARTY PLACE AND WE SAID NO. IS THAT A TAKING? BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY AUTHORIZED IT. AS LONG AS THE OTHER USES UNDER THE LAND USE REGULATIONS.

NO, THEY CAN USE. IT'S JUST AVAILABLE. DOESN'T MEAN YOU ARE OBLIGATED THEN CREATE A USE.

RIGHT. YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE ZONING TO SUPPORT THAT USE. THIS IS ONLY REGULATIONS AS IT RELATES TO. OF COURSE, WE CAN WRITE THAT IN ZONING DISTRICT THAT ENCOMPASSES ALL THE ENTERTAINMENT, WHICH IS PROBABLY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IF IT DOES HAVE. I MEAN, DO WE REALLY WANT THE SENIOR CENTER AND ALL THAT IN A ZONED FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND LIQUOR

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BECAUSE THE IDEA IS TO ASK THAT FOR THE LEGISLATION WE CAN ESTABLISH DIFFERENT RULES WITH DIFFERENT OBLIGATIONS. WOULD NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW THE ENABLING STATUTE IN TEXAS. SO NOW YOU'VE GOT. I THINK WE NEED TO BE A TAD BIT CAREFUL TO YOUR POINT. YEAH.

BECAUSE WE'RE THROWING EVERYTHING FROM THE SENIOR CENTER TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

YEAH. TO OLD TOWN INTO THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT.

DISTRICT. I MEAN, I THINK. I DON'T KNOW. RIGHT.

SEEM REAL WISE TO ME. YOU DON'T HAVE TO. YOU JUST WANT THE ABILITY TO. SO, YOU CAN ALLOW THE BASE OWNING THAT'S THERE NOW TO GOVERN THE USE OF THAT PROPERTY. YEAH. I GUESS THAT'S MY. I GUESS THAT'S MY PROBLEM. I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT THE ABILITY TO. YOU DON'T WANT THE TEMPTATION. I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO DO IT.

I JUST, I'M JUST NOT SURE THE FULL RAMIFICATIONS OF LUMPING ALL THAT TOGETHER INTO ONE ALCOHOL DISTRICT.

WHAT IF WE WROTE THAT. WROTE THE LEGISLATION TO HAVE SUB DISTRICTS. IF YOU DID WHAT? LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO COMPLICATE IT, BUT YOU COULD HAVE THE YELLOW AREA HAVE ONE SET OF RULES AND 4 AND 5 AND EXPANDED 1. EXPANDED YELLOW.

THE SENIOR CENTER HAS SPECIAL RULES. CALL IT SIX. COULD WE.

WHAT IF WE HAD ONE IN THE YELLOW, IN THE, LIKE, AN INITIAL AREA, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, ALL THE REST IS IN IT.

BUT THEN WE'VE GOT A. THEY'VE GOT, LIKE, COME BACK AND GET AUTHORITY TO ACTUALLY HAVE AN ACTIVE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT THERE OR SOMETHING. I'M JUST TRYING TO. I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT. WE'VE ALREADY GOT ONE PLACE IN THE TOWN WHERE THEY'RE RUNNING ROGUE PARTIES WITH, YOU KNOW, THOUSAND PEOPLE WORKING OUT OF A, YOU KNOW, STRIP RETAIL CENTER. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT SOME BIG WAREHOUSES OUT THERE THAT COULD BE USED FOR THE EXACT SAME THING. I'VE BEEN TO SOME OF THOSE WHEN I WAS MUCH YOUNGER. THEY USED TO DO THAT DOWN IN DE BELLUM ALL THE TIME WITH ALL THOSE BUILDINGS BEFORE THEY CONVERTED. YEAH.

AND THEY WERE AFTER HOURS.

THAT'S WHY I QUIT DRINKING.

OKAY, DON, I THINK YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP. WELL, A LITTLE BIT ALONG THE SAME LINES. I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE MIDDLE OF ONE.

IN THE VERY MIDDLE OF THIS WHOLE DISTRICT. WE'RE ENCOMPASSING IN SPACE ONE THAT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD. RIGHT.

SO, WE'RE GRABBING ALL THOSE HOUSES THAT WERE NOT ORIGINALLY IN. THAT I HAD A SIMILAR CONCERN. IS IT, IS THERE A PROBLEM GRABBING THOSE HOUSES, MAKING THEM PART OF THE DISTRICT? SO, WE CAN INCLUDE EXCLUSIONS ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. YOU COULD. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. WE CAN JURY. OKAY, BRIANNA. SO, I'M KIND OF WITH JIM ON THIS. LIKE, I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE WE CAN STILL HAVE EVENTS AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

RIGHT. SO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE THIS DOES FOR US. WE CAN STILL DO THE SIP AND STROLL.

WE CAN STILL WALK AROUND WITH ALCOHOL. WE'VE HAD EVENTS AT THE SENIOR CENTER BECAUSE IT'S ALSO A COMMUNITY CENTER.

SO, I MEAN, I WANT IT TO BE BROAD ENOUGH, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO. I GUESS I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO BRING IN THE SENIOR CENTER TO IT BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO IF. IF WE DON'T BRING IT IN. RIGHT. SO THAT WE'RE NOT ALREADY ABLE TO DO. THAT'S ONE.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS WITH THE, I GUESS WITH THE INDUSTRIAL AREA. I'M THINKING ABOUT. WHAT DO THEY CALL IT, LIKE, PEOPLE DOING THOSE. I GUESS THEY COULD DO NOW DO IT LEGALLY IF THEY HAVE, LIKE, RAID PARTIES OR WHATEVER THEY DO IN THEIR WAREHOUSE. I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT ARE WE OPENING OURSELVES UP TO THAT IS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE WERE INTENDING FOR

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BUT YET STILL THINKING ABOUT INCREASING THE BOUNDARIES.

BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OPENING UP THE BOUNDARIES. SO, I GUESS, JIM.

I'M ALIGNED WITH YOU, MARK.

BUT THE DISTRICT IS SEPARATE FROM THE ZONING, CORRECT, BOB? YES, YES. UNLESS WE WRITE ENABLING LEGISLATION, WE HAVE SPECIAL DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS, SO. SO YOU COULDN'T TURN A WAREHOUSE INTO A BAR, A RAVE PLACE.

YEAH, I MEAN IT BE AWESOME, BUT I DON'T THINK. BUT NOT FOR ME. BECAUSE WE COULD EXCLUDE RESIDENTIAL AND.

YEAH, OKAY, RIGHT. LET'S JUST TELL THE FUTURE. YEAH, BUT SO IN MY THOUGHT ABOUT EXPANDING AND LIKE WE ARE IN A PERIOD OF COPPELL WHERE REDEVELOPMENT IS HAPPENING ON A REGULAR BASIS.

SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS RESIDENTIAL NOW MAY NOT BE RESIDENTIAL IN 30 YEARS. I WOULD NOT WANT TO HANDCUFF A FUTURE COUNCIL ON A DECISION BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN NOW CARVED OUT OF THIS, OF THIS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

AGAIN, KIND OF THE POINT. THE ZONING WILL STILL BE IN PLACE, BUT IT PROVIDES THE OVERLAY ON TOP FOR FUTURE COUNCILS TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, REPURPOSE A WAREHOUSE INTO A DISTILLERY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO, I WANT TO, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO PRESERVE THAT AND PROVIDE MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY TO THE, TO A FUTURE COUNCIL WITHOUT PUTTING TOO MANY CARVE OUTS OR GERRYMANDER. I MEAN LIKE, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE THIS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT AND YOU KNOW, THEN LIKE START BULLDOZING HOUSES THAT'S JUST NOT REAL.

LIKE WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. RIGHT. BUT SO, I, I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT AND JUST KIND OF MY POINT OF EXPANDING THE, THE YELLOW DISTRICT TO THE EAST A LITTLE BIT WAS, LOOK, WE'VE GOT DEVELOPABLE LAND RIGHT THERE. WHAT IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SAYS I WANT TO PUT IN A, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THERE AND, AND NOW WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE THAT LAND IS INCLUDED IN, IN THE DISTRICT. SO, I JUST PUT IT OVER TO PARK ROAD JUST BECAUSE I LIKE STRAIGHT LINES. AND I THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD BE A NICE BOXY LINE THERE. SO, THERE WE GO. I THINK RAMESH IS FIRST. MAYOR PRO TEM HAD HIS HAND. GO AHEAD, BIG GUY. I JUST GOT DONE TALKING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I GUESS THIS QUESTION IS FOR BOB. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ESTABLISH, LET'S SAY THAT BLOCK 1 AS AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, WILL THAT HAVE ANY IMPACT TO THE PROPERTY TAXES OF RESIDENTS LIVING THERE? NOT UNLESS IT CHANGES THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. NOT AN APPRAISER, BUT DON'T LOOK AT ME FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT IT WOULD NOT CAUSE ANY PROBLEM, BUT IT WOULD AFFECT MAYBE VALUE OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED. IT MAY MAKE IT MORE VALUABLE. I MEAN THE MOST VALUABLE PROPERTY IN NEW ORLEANS IN THE CARRY VIEW WHICH WE ALL CALL THE FRENCH COURT. I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE THERE, WHICH SOMEBODY GOES TO MY QUESTION. YEAH, SO LIKE IN ONE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T KNOW HOW I WOULD FEEL IF I OWNED A HOME THERE AND FOUND OUT THAT NOW I WAS INCLUDED INTO AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT MY ABILITY TO SELL MY HOME? IF SOMEONE'S THINKING, WELL THAT'S GOING TO END UP HAVING A BAR IN IT ACROSS THE STREET, I DON'T WANT TO BUY THAT HOUSE. I MEAN, SO YEAH, I DO THINK IT CAN HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE PROPERTY VALUES, ON THE SALEABILITY OF THE HOMES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I JUST, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S HARD TO REALLY TELL WHETHER IT WILL OR HOW THAT MIGHT, HOW EXTENSIVE THAT MIGHT MIGHT BE. BUT I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL, EVEN IF WE'RE, EVEN IF IT'S SECONDARY TO THE ZONING OR SUB, YOU KNOW, SUBORDINATE TO ZONE, WE'RE STILL PUTTING AN OVERLAY ON THIS PROPERTY THAT THIS IS PLANNED OR ALLOWED TO BE TO THE RESIDENTS TO YOUR POINT. SO, I DON'T KNOW. SO, WE COULD EITHER DRAW THE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES TO WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL IS EXCLUDED TOTALLY OR WE KEEP IT IN THERE AND EXCLUDE RESIDENTIAL IN THE ENABLING.

SO, THE BOUNDARY STILL THERE, BUT SOMEDAY SHOULD THAT NOT BE RESIDENTIAL, THEN IT COULD CHANGE. KEVIN, I JUST KIND OF GO BACK TO THE SURVEY RESULTS THAT WE SAW FROM

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BUT I THINK IF WE CARVE THEM OUT FOR NOW, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND ADDRESS IT LATER.

WHAT IF YOU JUST LEAVE IT NOW AND JUST SAY PROVIDE BY ORDINANCE RESTRICTIONS REGARDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WITHIN THE AREA BY ORDINANCE AND THEN THAT WAY YOU CAN HAVE THIS HERE'S THE AREA. AND SO, I THINK YOU CAN ADOPT REASONABLE REGULATIONS TO ADAPT THE DIFFERENT BASE USES OF BUSINESSES OR RESIDENCES WITHIN THE DISTRICT. YEAH.

SO, IF YOU CARVED OUT NOW AND THEN THAT OWNER DECIDED TO SELL TO A BUSINESS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE LEGISLATURE. BOB'S IS A MUCH MORE. OKAY, YEAH.

JUST IN LISTENING YOU HAVE ANOTHER LAYER THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DISTRICT BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING READY TO UPDATE YOUR COMPREHENSIVE LANDINGS PLAN. SO, IF YOU. LET'S JUST SAY YOU ADOPT THIS AS IS, YOU ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH A DECISION-MAKING PLAN PROCESS OVER THE NEXT AT LEAST 12 MONTHS WITH A LOT OF CITIZEN INPUT THAT IS GOING TO DESIGNATE LAND USES. AND SO, IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE IN YOUR DISTRICT KIND OF. I'M GOING TO USE MARK AS AN EXAMPLE.

WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE MIXED-USE DISCUSSION, IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO WRITE LANGUAGE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN THAT IN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, THESE PROPERTIES, ARE DESIGNATED RESIDENTIAL. SO, IF SOMETHING WERE TO THE CONCERNS FOR THE RESIDENTS SO THEY HAVE THE DISTRICT THAT HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL LANGUAGE IN IT. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO DO, YOU WOULD HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN. IT WOULD SAY IT IS DESIGNATED RESIDENTIAL.

WHICH AGAIN I'M GOING TO USE MARK AS THE EXAMPLE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS IMPORTANT FOR HIM WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ENTITY. AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

SO, THERE'S GOING TO BE THREE LAYERS THAT COULD BE IN PLACE DEPENDING ON WHAT DIRECTION THAT YOU GO.

BUT YOU ARE FOR SURE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE LANDINGS PLAN COMING TO YOU AND FOR SURE YOU'RE GOING TO BE HAVING AN UPDATE TO THE ZONING ORDINANCES BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE TO BE ALIGNED WITH THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE LICENSE PLAN. FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE.

THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY WOULD NEED TO LIVE NEXT TO THE DISTRICT OR YOU'RE IN IT. I DON'T CARE. THE, THE EFFECTS ARE THE SAME. IT WOULD ONLY BE IF IT WAS REDEVELOPED WOULD IT END UP BEING SOMETHING OTHER THAN RESIDENCE IN MY OPINION. BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT THE WAY THAT CHANGES ON. YES, MARK? AND TO MIKE'S POINT, THE COMPREHENSIVE LANDING ON THAT CHANGES PERIODICALLY TOO.

I MEAN WE'RE TALKING 10 YEARS OUT, 20 YEARS OUT, 30 YEARS OUT. YOU KNOW, COUNCILS CAN CHANGE THAT. BUT IF WE GET THIS CREATED AND IT GIVES US THAT FLEXIBILITY. AND THE HUNT PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN LATE 2007 OR 8, YOU CAME ON THE COUNCIL IN THE LATE TEENS. RIGHT. AND THERE WAS A CHANGE WITH CITIZEN INPUT TO THAT LANGUAGE WHICH THEN AFFECTED.

RIGHT. THE WHOLE THING. SO, THERE ARE MECHANISMS IN PLACE. HOW DID WE STOP AT JUST THESE PARAMETERS? WHY DON'T WE EXPAND IT EVEN BIGGER? I MEAN, WHY DO WE DO FIVE, BUT NOT THESE OTHER BY NEXT TO FOUR OR THE LITTLE UNDER THE CURVE? UNDER THE CURVE YOU'RE LIKE, WHY IS IT SUCH A MESSY. I'M JUST. THIS WAS JUST INTERPRETATION OF WHAT WE WERE. THIS IS WHAT WE HEARD. SO THAT IS CORRECT.

YEAH. PROVIDE VISUAL. YOU'RE

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UNLESS SOMEBODY SAID. OTHER THAN THERE'S THIS PIECE WHICH I KNOW HAS BROUGHT UP A LOT OF CONVERSATION, WHAT OTHER PARTS DO YOU NEED? THIS IS THE LAST ONE. SO, YOU'LL HAVE ANSWERED THAT. I'M GOOD WITH. AS SHOWN WITH, WITHOUT CAR VOTES.

WITHOUT WHAT? WITHOUT ANY RESIDENTIAL CAR VOTE. SO AS IS.

KNOWING THAT WE CAN MAKE CHANGES LATER ALONG THE WAY. I'LL GO WITH THIS. DR. NO, I THINK WE'VE GOT. WE'VE GOT A PIECE OF UNDEVELOPED LAND THAT I THINK.

I REALLY THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER JUST THAT. THAT EAST BY THE SENIOR CENTER.

BY THE SENIOR CENTER. YEAH. I'M NOT SAYING WE TURN THE SENIOR CENTER TO A FRAT HOUSE. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CONSIDER THAT THAT IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, INTO SOMETHING THAT FITS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT IN THE FUTURE. I WOULD AT LEAST CONSIDER EXPANDING, YOU KNOW, THE WOODED AREA UP TO THE PARK. YOU DON'T WANT TO PROTECT THE WOODED AREA AROUND THE SENIOR CENTER.

LET'S FOR AGAIN FUTURE COUNCILS.

WE DON'T KNOW IT MAY NOT BE OUR DECISION. I'M OKAY WITH WHAT GIVEN SAID. I DO SO THE GEOGRAPHY AS IS. BUT ADD THAT BECAUSE THEY GROW UP AT TREES AND THE WOODED AREA. I'M NOT SAYING THAT ANYMORE. YEAH. I'VE DESIGNED OTHER THINGS IN THAT AREA. SO, I STRUGGLE WITH THAT. RIGHT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. RIGHT. AND SO, YOU'VE GOT GYM AT. NO. WELL, I GUESS YOU JUST NEED FOUR. YOU NEED FOUR PEOPLE. RIGHT. SO, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH WHAT'S UP HERE. I WOULDN'T GO PAST THIS FOR NOW. I WANT KEVIN. WE GOT FOUR. GIVE THE FLEXIBILITY.

WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL NOW MAKE IT ALL MY COLOR. CORRECT.

I'VE DENIED EVERY DEVELOPMENT THERE BECAUSE THE SENIOR CENTER LIKES THAT AREA. SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE. SO BEFORE WE FINALIZE THAT LANGUAGE. YES.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IT.

BUT IT WILL BE BASED ON. LET'S THINK ABOUT EVEN MAIN STREET.

THERE'S VERY FEW PLACES. SO WE WILL DEFER ITEM DATE ACTUALLY TO JULY. OH, THERE IS NOT A SECOND. WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND.

IS THAT OKAY? I GUESS SO. WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT FIRST THE WHOLE TIME. WELL, WE CAN COME BACK AFTER THE COUNCIL. YOU WANT TO COME BACK AFTER? WAIT, WHAT? WHAT ARE WE COMING AFTER BACK TO? IT'S THE NON DISCUSSION RENAMING NON HEART FACILITIES. OH, YEAH, WE'LL COME AFTERWARDS. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WE WILL RECESS FROM WORK SESSION AT 7:31. I MEAN, I HAVE A 5 AM FLIGHT, BUT.

[Regular Session]

JUST AS A REMINDER, ANY PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK DURING THE CITIZENS APPEARANCE OR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS MUST SIGN THE APPROPRIATE REGISTER

[3. Invocation 7:30 p.m.]

THIS EVENING WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE PARVA NIZATI WITH THE ALLIES INTERFAITH GROUP HERE TO GIVE OUR INVOCATION. AND THEN WE'LL RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. SO PLEASE REMAIN STANDING. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. I AM HONORED TO OFFER A PRAYER FROM THE BAHA' I FAITH FOR WISDOM, UNITY AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. OH GOD, MY GOD, UNITE ALL PEOPLES IN THY LOVE AND GUIDE US TO SERVE ONE ANOTHER WITH PURE HEARTS. MAY OUR HEARTS BE ILLUMINED WITH THE LIGHT OF THY GUIDANCE, AND MAY WE BE INSTRUMENTS OF THY PEACE. OH LORD, LET THY SPIRIT OF FELLOWSHIP AND ONENESS DESCEND UPON ALL HUMANITY. MAY THE PEOPLE OF THE EARTH RECOGNIZE ONE ANOTHER AS MEMBERS OF ONE FAMILY AND WORK TOGETHER FOR PEACE AND JUSTICE. ENABLE ALL PEOPLE TO TURN TOWARD ONE ANOTHER WITH LOVE, TO BE STEADFAST IN UNITY AND TO SERVE THE COMMON GOOD WITH JOYFUL HEARTS. OH GOD, RAISE ALOFT THE BANNER OF THE ONENESS OF MANKIND.

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OH KIND FATHER, CONFER THY BLESSINGS. BESTOW THY GRACIOUS AID AND CONFIRMATION UPON THIS COUNSEL. BESTOW UPON THEM WISDOM IN THEIR DELIBERATIONS, FAIRNESS IN THEIR JUDGMENTS, AND STEADFASTNESS IN THEIR SERVICE TO ALL PEOPLE. OH LORD, CONFER UPON THEM THY HEAVENLY BOUNTY AND RENDER THE OUTPOURINGS OF THY GRACE AND FAVOR THAT THEY MAY BE ENABLED BY YOUR POWERFUL PROTECTION TO DISCHARGE THEIR DUTIES WITH HONESTY AND ABILITY.

VERILY, THOU ART THE ALL POWERFUL, THE ALL KNOWING AND THE MOST COMPASSIONATE. ABDUL BAHA. AMEN. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. PLEASE BE SEATED. I

[5. Proclamations]

IN WITNESS THEREOF, I'VE SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF COPPELL TO BE AFFIXED THIS 9TH DAY OF JUNE, 2026. SO HERE'S A PROCLAMATION. EVERYBODY'S BEHAVING RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. IN THREE, TWO, ONE. AND I'M GONNA GET ONE JUST OF Y'ALL HERE. THREE. OKAY.

THREE, TWO, ONE. EXCELLENT.

THANKS, Y'ALL. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO US? GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS SONIA AJANI. AND I KNOW MY BANNER HERE SAYS MS. DENTON, BUT BEFORE I EVER STARTED DOING PAGEANTS AND I WAS CROWNED MISS DENTON, I WAS JUST A COPPELL GIRL. I GRADUATED FROM COPPELL HIGH SCHOOL. AND ON AUGUST 23RD OF 2022, I GOT INTO A CAR CRASH RIGHT HERE ON PARKWAY AND DENTON TAP. IT CHANGED MY LIFE DRAMATICALLY AND LED ME TO LEAD AND EDUCATE OTHERS ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF DISTRACTED DRIVING, AGGRESSIVE DRIVING, AND PROMOTE SAFE DRIVING. SO I KNOW MANY OF US ARE PROBABLY DRIVERS AND YOU THINK NEW DRIVER SAFETY, IT DOES NOT IMPACT YOU. BUT LET ME TELL YOU, NEW DRIVERS ARE LOOKING FOR EXAMPLES ON THE ROAD LEADERS IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT. SO THIS DOES IMPACT YOU. I ENCOURAGE YOU THE NEXT TIME YOU GET IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT TO BE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A GOOD DRIVER. BECAUSE 40,000 AMERICANS DIE EVERY YEAR IN CAR CRASHES AND IT IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF PREVENTABLE DEATHS FOR TEENS. SO THE NEXT TIME THAT YOU THINK OF PICKING YOUR PHONE UP, CHECKING A TEXT WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING, JUST THINK ABOUT THE 40,000 AMERICANS WHO DON'T GET TO GO OR ON ROAD TRIPS EVERY YEAR, WHO DON'T GET TO DRIVE TO SEE THEIR GRANDPARENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES EVERY YEAR AND THINK ABOUT THE LEADER YOU CAN BE IN THE CAR. THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK WE HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

COUNCILMEMBER HINOJOSA-SMITH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DRIVING THIS EFFORT. NO PUN INTENDED, BUT JUST FOR YOUR PASSION AROUND IT.

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MY DAUGHTER WILL BE 16 IN SIX DAYS AND SHE JUST COMPLETED HER DRIVING COURSE TODAY. AND SO WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT LIKE THREE HOURS OF NIGHT DRIVING LEFT AND THEN WE'RE DONE. RIGHT. BUT THE MESSAGE REALLY HITS HOME, YOU KNOW, FOR ME JUST, JUST PERSONALLY AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN WATCHING AND LOOKING THROUGH HER EYES AS A NEW DRIVER, YOU KNOW, VERY RECENTLY, REALLY BRINGS THE MESSAGE HOME.

SO THANK YOU. PLEASE CONTINUE TO SHARE YOUR MESSAGE WITH MUNICIPALITIES, NOT JUST HERE IN COPPELL, LOVE THAT YOU'RE A GRADUATE OF COPPELL HIGH SCHOOL. ME TOO.

SO GREAT JOB. BUT PLEASE SHARE THE MESSAGE THROUGHOUT THE METROPLEX AND AS FAR AS YOU CAN, YOU CAN TAKE IT BECAUSE IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

YOU CAN REMIND COUNCIL NEVELS THAT HE DID NOT WEAR THE SASH WHEN HE WENT TO UNT.

SO JUST A LITTLE HINT THERE, HUH? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. SORRY. ITEM B IS A PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING THE MONTH OF JULY 2026 AS PARK AND RECREATION MONTH AND ASKING MEGAN BOJNE TO COME DOWN AND FRIENDS. OH, THERE'S ANY MEMBERS OF A PARK. HOW YOU DOING? WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING COPPELL.

AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROMOTE HEALTH AND WELLNESS ENCOURAGES PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES, PROVIDING SPACE FOR POPULAR SPORTS, HIKING TRAILS, SWIMMING POOLS AND MANY OTHER ACTIVITIES DESIGNED TO PROMOTE ACTIVE LIFESTYLES AND WHEREAS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION ARE VITALLY IMPORTANT TO ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, ENSURING THE HEALTH OF ALL CITIZENS AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL WELL BEING OF A COMMUNITY AND REGION AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS INCREASE A COMMUNITY'S ECONOMIC PROSPERITY THROUGH INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES, EXPANSION OF THE LOCAL TAX BASE AND THE ATTRACTION AND RETENTION OF BUSINESSES AND CRIME REDUCTION AND WHEREAS OUR PARKS AND NATURAL AREAS ARE FUNDAMENTAL TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL WELL BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO CONNECT WITH NATURE AND RECREATE OUTDOORS. AND WHEREAS, THE US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES HAS DESIGNATED JULY AS PARK AND RECREATION MONTH. NOW THEREFORE, I, WES MAYS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF COPPELL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JULY AS PARK AND RECREATION MONTH IN THE CITY OF COPPELL.

AND I ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO CELEBRATE BY GETTING ACTIVE OUTDOORS, CONNECTING WITH NATURE, VISITING ONE OF COPPELL'S MANY PARKS OR RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND CREATING MEMORIES WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS IN WITNESS THEREOF. I'VE SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF COPPELL TO BE AFFIXED THIS 9TH DAY OF JUNE 2026. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS. JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE EVERYBODY.

PERFECT. PERFECT. OKAY, GREAT.

EVERYBODY LOOKS GREAT. ALL FRIENDS, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT.

OKAY, THIS IS ABOUT US. OKAY, THIS IS. THIS IS IT. EVERYBODY READY IN THREE, TWO, ONE. AND I'M GOING TO ZOOM IN JUST A LITTLE BIT ON YOU TWO HERE. BIG SMILES.

TRINITY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? ALL RIGHT. THREE, TWO, ONE.

PERFECT. THANK YOU. WERE YOU GIVING BAD SIGNS BEHIND ME? DID YOU HAVE A LITTLE SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY? THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT NOT JUST DURING PARK AND RECREATION MONTH, BUT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WITH ALL OF OUR ACTIVITIES, PROGRAMS AND EVENTS WE HAVE WHERE WE JUST WANT TO BRING JOY AND MEMORABLE EXPERIENCES TO THE COMMUNITY. WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT GOAL AS WE HAVE SEVERAL SOCCER THEMED EVENTS, OR NOT JUST EVENTS, BUT SOCCER THEMED PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE PARKS AND FACILITIES IN THE MONTH OF JUNE AND JULY WHERE WE'RE KIND OF COMBINING PARK AND RECREATION MONTH WITH THE

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM C IS A PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING SATURDAY, MAY 16, 2026, AS AINSLEY BRAMER DAY. AND I'D ASK AINSLEY TO COME DOWN, PLEASE.

I'M SORRY. I'M GONNA GET YOUR NAME WRONG NO MATTER WHAT I DO.

IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU. WHEREAS THE CITY OF COPPELL PROUDLY RECOGNIZES AINSLEY BRAMER, A COPPELL RESIDENT AND OUTSTANDING STUDENT ATHLETE AT COPPELL HIGH SCHOOL, WHOSE EXCEPTIONAL DEDICATION, DISCIPLINE AND ACHIEVEMENT LED TO HER CAPTURING THE GOLD MEDAL IN THE SHOT PUT EVENT AT THE UNIVERSITY INTERSCHOLASTIC LEAGUE TRACK AND FIELD STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS ON MAY 16, 2026.

AND WHEREAS AINSLEY RECORDED A CHAMPIONSHIP THROW OF 45FT ON HER FIFTH OF HER SIX ATTEMPTS, SURPASSING THE SILVER MEDAL PERFORMANCE BY SEVEN AND A QUARTER INCHES AND DEMONSTRATING EXTRAORDINARY SKILL, DEDICATION AND COMPETITIVE EXCELLENCE. AND WHEREAS AINSLEY, WHO SIGNED WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS IN NOVEMBER, PREVIOUSLY EARNED A FOURTH PLACE FINISH AT THE 2025 STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS. AND HER 2026 STATE TITLE MARKS THE FIRST GOLD MEDAL EARNED BY COPPELL ATHLETES AT A UIL TRACK AND FIELD STATE CHAMPIONSHIP SINCE 2023. WHEREAS THROUGH HER HARD WORK, PERSEVERANCE, SPORTSMANSHIP AND COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE, AINSLEY BRAMER HAS BROUGHT GREAT PRIDE, HONOR AND RECOGNITION TO COPPELL HIGH SCHOOL. AND THE CITY OF COPPELL WAS SERVING AS AN INSPIRATION TO STUDENTS, ATHLETES AND RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, WES MAYS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF COPPELL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SATURDAY, MAY 16, 2026, AS AINSLEY BRAMER DAY IN THE CITY OF COPPELL AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL IN CONGRATULATING HER ON HER OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT AND WISHING HER CONTINUED SUCCESS IN ALL FUTURE ENDEAVORS. A WITNESS THEREOF, I'VE SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF COPPELL TO BE AFFIXED THIS 9TH DAY OF JUNE, 2026. CONGRATULATIONS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY FAMILY WITH YOU HERE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO BE IN THE PHOTO? YEAH. COME ON, COME ON. EVERYBODY'S INVITED. YEAH. WHAT'S THAT? GLAD TO MEET YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS. HI.

CONGRATULATIONS. ALL RIGHT, SO FOR PHOTO, LET'S GET IN CLOSE. YEAH, MAKE IT WORK.

EVERYBODY GOOD? FANTASTIC.

GOOD TO KNOW. ALL RIGHT, GROUP PHOTO HERE IN THREE, TWO, ONE. AND THEN JUST OF THIS CREW UP FRONT, THREE, TWO, ONE. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO US? I DIDN'T PREPARE ANYTHING, BUT IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT MY FAMILY AND MY AMAZING COACHES. SO, THANKS.

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COUNCILMEMBER NEVELS.

COUNCILMEMBER HINOJOSA-SMITH.

THANK YOU. THIS ONE'S PERSONAL BECAUSE I'VE KNOWN AINSLEY SINCE SHE WAS PROBABLY THREE YEARS OLD, AND SO I SEE HER GROW UP AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW PROUD I AM OF YOU. I HAVE TO WRITE DOWN MY COMMENTS BECAUSE I'M SUPER PROUD OF YOU. SO, AINSLEY, I'M SUPER EXCITED TO CELEBRATE YOU.

YOU'RE A TRUE CHAMPION.

WINNING THE STATE TITLE IS A TESTAMENT TO YOUR COUNTLESS HOURS OF DISCIPLINE, GRIT AND SACRIFICE YOU'VE POURED INTO THIS SPORT. YOUR PERFORMANCE AT STATE WASN'T JUST A WIN, IT WAS A MASTERCLASS IN FOCUS AND DETERMINATION.

WE'RE INCREDIBLY PROUD TO WATCH YOU TAKE THIS NEXT STEP TOWARDS THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS. AND THE LONGHORNS ARE SUPER LUCKY TO HAVE YOU. BUT AS YOU KNOW, SUCCESS ISN'T. DOESN'T HAPPEN IN A VACUUM, AND IT TAKES PERSONAL DEDICATION, BUT IT'S ALSO FUELED BY UNWAVERING SUPPORT OF YOUR FAMILY. AND SO MIKE AND ERICA. HER PARENTS, I KNOW, HAVE SUPPORTED HER THROUGH EVERYTHING. HER LITTLE BROTHER, I KNOW RYAN HAS BEEN THERE. HER GRANDMOTHER WHO'S HERE, HER BIG SISTER GRACE, WHO'S OFF IN COLLEGE.

BUT IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A FAMILY AFFAIR. AND THEN THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS YOUR FAMILY. AND SO WE'RE SO PROUD OF YOU. YOU'RE AN INSPIRATION FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR SCHOOL AND FOR OUR STUDENTS. YOU'VE SET THE BAR HIGH, AND WE CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT YOU DO AT UT. SO HOOK EM. COUNCILMEMBER PREMKUMAR. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AINSLEY, CONGRATULATIONS. AND I HOPE YOU'LL JOIN THE SELECT SMALL CROWD OF COPPELL GRADUATES THAT GO ON TO WIN AN OLYMPIC GOLD. SO, ALL THE BEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, YOU CAN GO. NO. ITEM

[6. Citizens’ Appearance]

PRESENTATIONS BY INDIVIDUALS SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES EACH, DURING WHICH TIME THE SPEAKERS MUST REMAIN AT THE PODIUM, FACE FORWARD AND ADDRESS ONLY THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

PERSONS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT THEY SIGNED UP.

IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN AN ORDERLY AND RESPECTFUL MEETING ENVIRONMENT AND TO CONDUCT THE PUBLIC MEETING AND BUSINESS, SPEAKERS WILL ADHERE TO THE STANDARDS OUTLINED IN ORDINANCE 2025, 1633. THERE WILL BE NO COMMENTS OR DELIBERATION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL DUE TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. WE DO HAVE ONE PERSON THAT HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT, AND THAT'S MS. KIMBERLY HAROLD. HELLO, COUNCIL AND MAYOR. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. YES, I'M KIMBERLY HAROLD. I LIVE AT 104 HEATHER GLENN DRIVE HERE IN COPPELL, TEXAS. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF COPPELL FOR 25 YEARS. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU. I WAS HERE ABOUT A YEAR AGO. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE HAVING ON MY ROAD. IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH HEATHER GLEN DRIVE, HERE'S SANDY LAKE, THERE'S BELTLINE, HERE'S HEATHER GLEN, HERE'S TRADER JOE'S. WE'RE THE FIRST ROAD JUST BEHIND TRADER JOE'S. THE CITY OF COPPELL RECENTLY REDID THE SEWER SYSTEM ON OUR ROAD.

WE WERE HOPING THAT THEY WOULD ALSO DO THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM AS WELL, AND THEY DID NOT. WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT WAS A SEPARATE PROJECT AND IT WOULD NOT BE THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM ON OUR STREET WOULD NOT BE FIXED FOR ANOTHER TWO TO THREE

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ABSOLUTELY, I WILL. WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO CONCLUDE MY CONVERSATIONS? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. OH, YOU'RE WELCOME TO CONTINUE TALKING.

OH, I THOUGHT YOU WANTED ME TO STOP. WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR SOME. WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME ANSWERS. WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN'T GET OUR, GET OUR ROADS DONE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, FEW, FEW MONTHS WOULD BE GREAT AND PUT US AT THE TOP OF THE LIST BECAUSE THIS IS DEFINITELY A, THIS IS A HAZARD FOR ANYBODY THAT'S DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD. SO, BUT YEAH, I HAD A VIDEO. I WISH I COULD BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU IT, BUT ANYWAY, I'M ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT DEFINITELY NEED YOUR HELP.

WE NEED GUIDANCE. WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHO WE NEED TO TALK TO TO TRY TO GET THIS PROJECT AT THE TOP OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY'S. WE WOULD JUST LIKE SOME HELP TO GET IT QUICK JUST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO, ANYWAY, I'LL CONCLUDE THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS THIS EVENING.

[7. Consent Agenda]

FULL DESCRIPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE SCREEN THIS EVENING. WE DO HAVE AGENDA ITEMS 7A THROUGH 7D FOR CONSIDERATION.

COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS ARE COUNCILMEMBER MAYOR PRO TEM WALKER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DIDN'T WANT TO PULL IT JUST IN THE INTEREST OF EFFICIENCY, BUT I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT YOUR CANDIDACY AS PRESIDENT ELECT OF THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE. YOU'RE CONTINUING A HISTORY THAT THIS CITY HAS PROVIDED LEADERSHIP IN STATEWIDE ORGANIZATIONS FOR A LONG TIME. YOU'VE TIRELESSLY SERVED THIS COMMUNITY. YOU'VE PUT SO MUCH EFFORT AND ENERGY AND COMMITMENT INTO THE JOB OF MAYOR AND BEFORE THAT, MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL THAT I'M VERY PROUD TO CAST MY VOTE IN FAVOR OF ITEM B OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. I AM DOING THAT BECAUSE I DO STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT OUR VOICE NEEDS TO BE HEARD MORE DOWN IN AUSTIN. AND TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE IS ONE OF THE VEHICLES THAT WE USE TO DO THAT. AND I JUST WANT TO EXTEND THAT OUT AND FOR ALL TO BENEFIT THE THE CITIZENS OF COPPELL. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. THOSE NICE WORDS. ANY OTHER CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS? SEEING NONE, I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER PREMKUMAR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN FROM 7A TO 7D. THANK YOU.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HILL. ALL IN FAVOR? WALKER, HINOJOSA-SMITH, CARROLL,

[8. 2026-0251 Consider adoption of an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Coppell, Texas, authorizing the issuance of “City of Coppell, Texas, General Obligation Refunding Bonds” in one or more series, establishing sale parameters, providing for the security for and payment of said bonds; repealing ordinance No. 2026-1646; and enacting other provisions related to the subject.]

NONE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIED.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF COPPELL OF THE CITY OF TEXAS AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF CITY OF COPPELL, TEXAS GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS IN ONE OR MORE SERIES, ESTABLISHING CELL PARAMETERS AND PROVIDING FOR THE SECURITY FOREIGN PAYMENT OF SAID BONDS, REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026, 1646 AND ENACTING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE SUBJECT. MS. TIEHEN, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AS THE MAYOR HAS READ, THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO REVEAL REPEAL THE EXISTING BOND REFUNDING PARAMETER SALES ORDINANCE AND APPROVE A NEW ORDINANCE WITH THE PARAMETERS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR. THE CURRENT PARAMETERS ARE SET FOR A TRUE INTEREST COST NOT TO EXCEED 2.75 AND A DEBT SERVICE SAVINGS OF AT LEAST 5%. THE CURRENT PARAMETERS ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE AND HAVE NOT BEEN ATTAINABLE IN THE CURRENT MARKET ENVIRONMENT.

THEREFORE, STAFF AND THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED BE REPEALED AND

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THE NEW ORDINANCE INCLUDES PARAMETERS WITH A TRUE INTEREST COST NOT TO EXCEED 3.25 AND A DEBT SERVICE SAVINGS OF AT LEAST 3%. THIS ITEM WAS DISCUSSED DURING WORK SESSION AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE NEW ORDINANCE.

JUST IN CASE WE WERE WONDERING.

YEAH. THANK YOU. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. TIEHEN? COUNCILMEMBER CARROLL. THANK YOU, MAYOR. REAL QUICK. SO THE MAXIMUM IS THREE. THREE AND A QUARTER IS WHAT WE'RE IS BEING RECOMMENDED, RIGHT? THREE AND A QUARTER. WHERE ARE THE BONDS AT TODAY? I'M GOING TO BRING JASON UP TO ANSWER THAT FOR ME.

SURE. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JASON HUGHES, HILLTOP SECURITIES TODAY ESTIMATE AROUND 3.45%.

OKAY, SO ABOUT 20, 20 BIPS.

OKAY. THEY'D HAVE TO DROP.

OKAY, JUST GET AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH THEY WOULD HAVE TO DROP AND THE CURRENT. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN THE NEW PROPOSAL, THE NEW ORDINANCE AND THE OLD ORDINANCE IS THE MAXIMUM RATE AND THE PERCENTAGE OF SAVINGS AND THE MINIMUM SAVINGS. YES, SIR. SO IT'S 5% AND 275 BEFORE. AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE THREE AND A QUARTER AND 3% SAVINGS.

CORRECT. OKAY, THANKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE DON'T DO THESE REFUNDING VERY OFTEN, BUT THEY'RE A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE OUR CITIZENS IN THE CITY MONEY, FUTURE MONEY, AND VERY, VERY GOOD OPPORTUNITY HERE.

COUNCILMEMBER NEVELS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I MOVE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 8 AS PRESENTED.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A SECOND FROM MAYOR PRO TEM. ALL IN FAVOR? WALKER, HINOJOSA- SMITH, CARROLL, NEVELS, PREMKUMAR, HILL. NONE OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.

[9. 2026-0238 Public Hearing: Hold a public hearing and consider approval of S-1113R3-SF-7, St Constantine School, Lot 1, Block A, Corp Of Episcopal Diocese Dallas, a special use permit revision to allow a private school with the maximum enrollment of 130 students to operate at the Church of the Apostles located at 322 S MacArthur Blvd, at the southeast corner of Starleaf and MacArthur at the request of Catharine Clayton of the Saint Constantine School.]

CONSTANTINE SCHOOL. MS. BOSWELL. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

OOPSIE. OKAY, SO THE ST.

CONSTANTINE CHURCH, OR SORRY, SCHOOL, BEGAN OPERATING AS A PRIVATE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL AT THE CHURCH OF THE APOSTLES LOCATION IN AUGUST OF 2025. SO THIS IS THEIR THIRD CAMPUS WITH THE TWO OTHER BEING IN HOUSTON AND PITTSBURGH. THE SCHOOL OFFERS CLASSES FROM PRE KINDERGARTEN, 3 THROUGH 12TH GRADE. HOURS ARE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 8AM TO 4PM AND THEY ARE LOOKING TO EXTEND IT POSSIBLY TO 5PM FOR AFTERCARE SERVICES IN THE UPCOMING YEAR. ENROLLMENT FOR THE FIRST YEAR HAS 69 STUDENTS WHERE THEY WERE ALLOWED UP TO 100 FROM 32 FAMILIES. NOT ALL STUDENTS ATTEND EVERY DAY. THEY HAVE 66 STUDENTS THAT ATTEND MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY, 39 STUDENTS THAT COME TUESDAY, THURSDAY, AND THREE THAT COME KIND OF A LA CARTE, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S BEING PROVIDED. SO THE CONCERNS THAT STAFF HAD INITIALLY WITH THE ORIGINAL CASE WERE ADDRESSED WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND CIRCULATION PLAN. SO THE PLAN SHOWED STACKING INTERNAL TO THE SITE AND NOT FROM STARLEAF STREET, AND THEREFORE WOULD NOT CONFLICT WITH RIVER CHASE ELEMENTARY. SO THE MAXIMUM VEHICULAR QUEUE IS 36 VEHICLES WITH UP TO THREE VEHICLES LOADING AND LOADING AT A TIME WITH STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT TO ASSIST. SO THERE'S SCHOOL HOURS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 8 TO 5 CLASSES OFFERED. DROP OFF BEGINS AT 7:30. SO YEAR ONE PICKUP ENDS AT 4. SO THIS IS THE YEAR THEY JUST FINISHED IN YEAR TWO, AFTER CARE MAY RUN TILL FIVE. SO SINCE THE SCHOOL HAS BEEN IN OPERATION, THEY HAVE REAL LIFE OBSERVATIONS. SO THIS IS SOME OF THE PICTURES THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN. THEY CONDUCTED A CAR LINE SURVEY THAT SHOWED A CAR LINE RANGING FROM 2 TO 17 CARS. SO ROUGHLY ABOUT HALF THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE BY THE VEHICULAR QUEUE OF 36.

ALL IN ALL, STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST AND FEELS IT IS A GOOD USE OF THE SPACE. WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OBSERVATIONS THAT WERE MADE.

SO HERE WE HAVE LIKE 16 CARS IN

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AND HERE YOU SEE BASICALLY ONE CAR IN LINE. SO THIS IS A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THEY ARE ASKING TO GO FROM 100 STUDENTS TO 130 STUDENTS, WHICH WILL ALLOW THEM FLEXIBILITY. WE DID MAIL OUT NOTICES WITHIN 200FT, ADDITIONAL NOTICES WITHIN 800FT AS A COURTESY. WE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES. SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF S1113 R3 SF7 SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING. ONE, THAT THE PRIVATE SCHOOL BE LICENSED AND MAINTAINED IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW AND PROVIDE INSTRUCTION FOR PRE K3 THROUGH 12TH GRADE AND TWO, THAT THE STUDENT ENROLLMENT CAPACITY UNDER THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT NOT EXCEED 130 STUDENTS.

THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BOSWELL? MAYOR PRO TEM WALKER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. MAYOR, I WAS JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WITH RESPECT TO 130 STUDENTS, THAT THAT'S NOT ANYTHING THEY'VE HIT YET, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S CORRECT. SO THIS YEAR THEY HAD 69 STUDENTS. THIS JUST ALLOWS THEM, BECAUSE THIS WAS THEIR FIRST YEAR, ALLOWS THEM SOME FLEXIBILITY SO THAT IF THEY HAVE MORE KIDS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT GETS TO 105, THEY DON'T HAVE TO TURN KIDS AWAY.

NO. OKAY. AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THE INITIAL CONCERNS I HAD ABOUT PARKING HAVE MANIFEST. I MEAN, OR THE DRIVE, THE QUEUE AND ALL LIKE THAT.

CORRECT. SO THE QUEUE OF 36, THEY'VE HAD MAYBE HALF OF THAT. OKAY. OKAY, GOOD.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER HINOJOSA-SMITH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO PROBABLY FOLLOWING UP ON MAYOR PRO TEM WALKER. SO THE TRAFFIC PATTERN THAT WE LOOKED AT IS FOR AROUND 60 SO STUDENTS.

BUT YET DO WE HAVE ANY CONCERN FROM THE STANDPOINT OF IT GOING UP TO 130? SO THEY'VE HAD, LET'S SAY 69, LET'S SAY 70 STUDENTS. AND TYPICALLY, AND CATHARINE CAN CORRESPOND WITH ME, THERE'S ABOUT 32 FAMILIES. SO IT'S NOT LIKE 69 CARS COMING THERE THEY'RE USUALLY TWO OR THREE KIDS PER FAMILY THAT ARE COMING. I THINK THREE KIDS THAT DRIVE THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY'RE OF AGE. SO IF WE ALLOW THEM TO GO UP TO 130 THERE'S STILL ABOUT DOUBLE THAT QUEUING SIZE AVAILABLE. SO 17, YOU STILL ALLOW ANOTHER 19. OKAY, GOTCHA. THANK YOU.

YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I SEE THAT MS. CLAYTON IS WITH US.

DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS? NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. CATHARINE CLAYTON, 2717 VISTA BLUFF BOULEVARD IN LOUISVILLE. THANK YOU ALL. AND MARY DID A GREAT JOB OF SUMMARIZING THAT.

THAT'S CORRECT. WE'VE HAD A LOVELY YEAR WITH 67, 69 STUDENTS. ANOTHER FEATURE OF OUR SCHOOL IS THAT ALMOST HALF OF THE STUDENTS CONSIDER THEMSELVES HOMESCHOOLED AND COME ONLY FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS. THAT'S ANOTHER TRAFFIC, AN ASPECT TO THE TRAFFIC THAT MAKES OUR QUEUING AND ANY POTENTIAL IMPACT TO MACARTHUR REALLY NEGLIGIBLE. SO WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE COULD INCREASE OUR ENROLLMENT WITHOUT ANY IMPACT AT ALL BECAUSE WE ARE A VERY SMALL OPERATION AND JUST NOT ANYWHERE NEAR THE CAPACITY THAT FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT THAT MIGHT BE CONCERNING. AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE'RE AN ASSET TO THE, TO THE CITY AS WE'RE AN ATTRACTIVE EDUCATION OPTION. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL FAMILIES MOVE TO COPPELL FOR THE SCHOOL AND WE DRAW FAMILIES FROM ALL OVER THE METROPLEX. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMEMBER NEVELS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE WITH US TODAY.

ACTUALLY, YOU WERE JUST STARTING TO TOUCH ON IT, SO I WANT A LITTLE BIT OF FOLLOW UP. SO YOU SAID THAT YOU HAVE SOME FAMILIES THAT MOVED TO COPPELL FOR THE SCHOOL. DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF THE, OF THE MAKEUP OF PEOPLE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, ATTEND THE SCHOOL THAT LIVE IN COPPELL VERSUS NOT. AND MAINLY THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING IS FOR WALKABILITY TO

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AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FAMILIES WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE. I COULD BE. I THINK THAT'S TRUE.

I COULD BE WRONG. WE THIS COMING YEAR WE HAVE SEVEN FAMILIES WITH A COPPELL ADDRESS CURRENTLY AND THREE FAMILIES I KNOW HAVE. THREE OF THOSE SEVEN HAVE RELOCATED TO COPPELL FOR THE SCHOOL.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT INFORMATION, MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU. MAYOR, JUST A QUICK QUESTION. I WAS CURIOUS. SO ARE YOU, WITH RESPECT TO THIS FACILITY, ARE YOU AT CAPACITY AT 130 STUDENTS? ACTUALLY, NO, ACCORDING TO THE OCCUPANCY LIMIT, BUT WE DON'T FORESEE NEED TO, LIKE, 130 WILL BE SUFFICIENT FOR US IN THAT BUILDING. OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMEMBER HINOJOSA-SMITH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. FROM A PARKING PERSPECTIVE, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH PARKING FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE DRIVING AGE? YEAH, WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY STUDENTS THAT DRIVE THEMSELVES REGULARLY, AS FAR AS I KNOW. I THINK THE NUMBER THAT MARY MENTIONED, WE PUT IT IN OUR NUMBERS LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE APPLYING. JUST KIND OF FORESEEING, LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WE HAVE TOTAL, I THINK THIS PAST YEAR WE'VE HAD 11 OR NINE HIGH SCHOOLERS.

SO WE ESTIMATED THAT IF A FEW OF THEM DROVE, THAT WAS A FACT, COULD BE A FACTOR. SO FAR THIS PAST YEAR, NONE HAVE DRIVEN REGULARLY.

GOTCHA. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER NEVELS.

ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION AND CORRECT ME. WERE YOU HERE LAST YEAR PRESENTING? YES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. SO IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY FROM THAT CONVERSATION YOU SAID THE GOAL WAS TO TRY TO GROW THE BASE OF THE SCHOOL AND THEN MOVE IT TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION. IS THAT STILL THE ULTIMATE GOAL? RIGHT. IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO CONTINUE TO GROW IN THIS SPACE. I MEAN, IT JUST THE BUILDING HAS LIMITED CLASSROOM CAPACITY.

WHAT IS IF THE, YOU KNOW, THE ASKING FOR INCREASED CAPACITY TO 130.

WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY OF THE SCHOOL THAT YOU FEEL THAT Y'ALL COULD SERVE IN THAT LOCATION? OH, IN THAT LOCATION? YEAH, IN THAT LOCATION. WE, WE WOULDN'T EXCEED 130 WITH THE CURRENT FACILITIES.

AND SO IN REALITY, WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ENROLLED 97 STUDENTS FOR THE COMING YEAR. SO, AND SO IF, IF WE'RE, IF A, IF PERMISSION IS GRANTED, WE HAVE, I THINK RIGHT NOW ABOUT BETWEEN FIVE AND 10 STUDENTS THAT WERE APPLICANTS WHO WOULD PROBABLY COME. AND SO WE KNOW THAT WE WOULD EXCEED THAT HUNDRED. THE LIMIT, THE HUNDRED LIMIT THAT WE'RE UNDER RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE APPLICANTS THAT WOULD, WOULD CAUSE US TO REACH 130. THAT WAS A NUMBER THAT WE SET JUST TO GIVE US LEEWAY FOR THE YEAR SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO TURN ANYONE AWAY.

BUT ANYWAY, SO THAT, SO THAT'S KIND OF, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LEEWAY. WE DON'T, WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A APPLICANT POOL THAT WOULD BE REACHING 130. THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU TOLD ME THAT THE BUILDING HAD A CAPACITY OF, LET'S SAY, OR YOU KNOW, 200 AND 260. RIGHT. WELL, KIND OF, TO THE QUESTIONING EARLIER, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT GET US TO THE CAR LIMIT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE TRENDS THAT YOU HAVE NOW WHERE? SO JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CAPACITY OF THE BUILDING ISN'T GOING TO EXCEED, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE. LIKE IF WE COME BACK AGAIN NEXT YEAR AND LIKE, OH, WE WANT TO ADD MORE AND MORE, LIKE, WHAT POINT WOULD WE START RUNNING INTO THAT LIMIT WHERE WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC SPILLING INTO MACARTHUR AS PER MAYOR PRO TEM'S CONCERN FROM LAST YEAR.

SO JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT TOTAL PICTURE. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT BUILDING WON'T REACH THAT CAPACITY OF STUDENTS TO HAVE TO CREATE THAT CONCERN.

RIGHT. OUR QUEUE ACCORDING TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS 36 CARS WITHIN THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 70 STUDENTS AND THE MAX WE'VE EVER OBSERVED. AND THAT REALLY ONLY LASTS FOR A FEW MINUTES AS THE LINE DISSIPATES QUICKLY. THE MAX WE'VE EVER OBSERVED IS 17. SO EVEN IF WE WERE TO DOUBLE THAT, WE STILL WOULD HAVE EXCESS CAPACITY ACCORDING TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY. AND THE ENROLLMENT INCREASE THAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS NOT DOUBLING OUR. PERFECT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND PERSONS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING MUST SIGN THE REGISTER AND LIST YOUR ADDRESS.

YOU'LL BE CALLED TO SPEAK IN THE ORDER YOU'VE REGISTERED.

PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE LIMITED TO

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COUNCIL. SEEING NONE, I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION.

COUNCILMEMBER NEVELS. ARE WE USING NEW LANGUAGE TODAY? NO.

YOU CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE IT WITH REMEMBER THERE'S EXCEPTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 9 AS PRESENTED WITH EXCEPTIONS.

COUNCIL MEMBER CARROLL SECONDED.

ALL IN FAVOR? WALKER, HINOJOSA- SMITH, CARROLL, NEVELS, PREMKUMAR, HILL. NONE OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. CONDITIONS SAID

[10. City Manager Reports, Project Updates, Future Agendas, and Direction from Work Session ]

THAT'S A NEW GAME WE'RE GOING TO PLAY. SO WHILE THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT, I'LL READ THIS WHATSAPP WE'VE BEEN ASKED FOR QUITE SOME TIME ABOUT GETTING THE CITY OF COPPELL ON WHATSAPP. THE CITY OF COPPELL IS LAUNCHING A WHATSAPP CHANNEL AND IS A NEW WAY TO KEEP RESIDENTS INFORMED AND CONNECTED. IT'S A UNIQUE CHANNEL AS PART OF OUR COMMITMENT TO MEETING THE COMMUNITY WHERE YOU ARE.

THE CHANNEL PROVIDES A SIMPLE ONE WAY COMMUNICATION TOOL FOR RECEIVING CITY NEWS, UPDATES AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION THROUGH WHATSAPP.

THE CHANNEL IS DESIGNED TO SHARE INFORMATION ONLY AND DOES NOT SUPPORT DIRECT MESSAGING.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, PLEASE CONTACT US AT INFO@COPPELLTX.GOV AND WHEN WE DO GET AN ANSWER ABOUT WHERE THAT LOCATION IS, I WILL INFORM Y'ALL FOR THE MEETING. THAT'S ALL I HAVE MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS MAYOR AND COUNCIL REPORTS ON RECENT AND UPCOMING EVENTS.

JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS OUR ONLY MEETING IN THE MONTH OF JUNE, SO I'VE GOT SEVERAL ITEMS TO HIGHLIGHT. IT HELPS IF I ACTUALLY READ THE STATEMENT, THE FIRST SENTENCE. JOIN COPPELL COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE AT THE SENIOR AND COMMUNITY CENTER ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE 17TH.

SO THAT'S ON ME. I APOLOGIZE FOR STUMPING THE STAFF. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THAT IS ON JUNE 17 FROM 6 TO 8 AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. YES, I

[11. Mayor and Council Reports on Recent and Upcoming Events.]

COPPELL WILL BE CELEBRATING THE 36TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE SIGNING OF AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT BY GEORGE BUSH THIS JULY WITH TWO EVENTS CELEBRATE OUR DIFFERENCES STORYTIME JULY 8TH AT THE COSBY LIBRARY. JOIN US FOR A STORY TIME FOCUSING ON LEARNING AND FRIENDS LIVING WITH DISABILITIES AND HOW THEY NAVIGATE THE WORLD WE ALL SHARE. FRIENDS LIVING WITH A DISABILITY WILL BE JOINING US FOR A SHOW AND SHARE SESSION AND ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS ARE

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LEARN FROM ORGANIZATIONS, AUTHORS AND BUSINESSES IN NORTH TEXAS AS WE FOCUS ON INNOVATIONS IN HEALTH, EDUCATION, EMPLOYMENT AND ACCESSIBILITY.

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ITEM NUMBER 12 IS COUNCIL COMMITTEE REPORTS CONCERNING ITEMS COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WITH NO COUNCIL ACTION OR DELIBERATION PERMITTED. ITEM A IS REPORT OF THE DALLAS REGIONAL MOBILITY COALITION COUNCIL MEMBER DON CARROLL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. QUITE AN EVENTFUL LAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS IN TRANSPORTATION IN THIS REGION. STARTING OFF WE HAD A COUPLE OF GUESTS. WE HAD SENATOR PAXTON FROM SENATE DISTRICT 8 THAT CAME AND TALKED TO US IN MARCH AND THEN REPRESENTATIVE YVONNE DAVIS FROM THE STATE HOUSE DISTRICT 111 CAME AND TALKED TO US TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED LAST LEDGE IN THE LAST LEDGE AND WHAT POTENTIALLY IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT ONE. A FEW FACTS.

RTC, WHICH IS THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL, IS IN THE PROCESS OF EVALUATING THE LIKE 7,000 TRAFFIC SIGNALS THROUGHOUT THIS REGION, DETERMINING WHICH ONES OF THESE NEED TO BE UPGRADED AND THEN THEREFORE TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT FUNDING FOR THOSE IN THE FUTURE. SO QUITE A UNDERTAKING GOING ON THERE. AND THERE HAS CERTAINLY BEEN A LOT GOING ON WITH DART SINCE WE LAST TALKED, SINCE WE ALL GOT TOGETHER FOR THE FIRESIDE CHAT. AND SO A NUMBER OF CITIES WERE LOOKING TO GET OUT OF DART THROUGH SOME NEGOTIATIONS AND THERE HAS TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL LEGISLATION THAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION. BUT THREE OF THOSE SIX CITIES DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD CANCEL THEIR ELECTIONS AND STAY IN DART. THE OTHER THREE CONTINUE TO HOLD THEIR ELECTIONS, TWO OF WHICH STAYED IN DART. ONE, HIGHLAND PARK DECIDED TO GET OUT. SO THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING OUT. SO QUITE A CHANGE THERE.

IN THE MEANTIME, DART AND THEIR CEO HAVE PARTED WAYS ALSO SINCE THAT TIME. SO NADINE LEE IS NO LONGER CEO THERE AND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A NEW CEO AT DART AS THE WINDS CONTINUE TO CHANGE THERE. ONE THING THAT A LOT OF THE CITIES ARE DOING.

FRISCO IS STARTING TO DO IT, PLANO STARTING TO DO IT, MAYBE EVEN IRVING IS CONTINUE TO LOOK AT MICRO TRANSIT. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN DOING IN A VERY, VERY SMALL SCALE FOR ACTUALLY A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW RELATED TO SOME OF OUR WESTSIDE BUSINESSES. SO I THINK, I FEEL LIKE WE ARE, AS I TALK TO MORE AND MORE PEOPLE, WE ARE A LITTLE BIT ON THE CUTTING EDGE. EVEN THOUGH IT'S A VERY SMALL SCALE OF LOOKING INTO THIS GETS THE, IT IDENTIFIES WHERE THE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS TO BE AND GETS IT THERE IN A RELATIVELY COST EFFECTIVE WAY.

DCTA, WHO IS ACTUALLY WHO WE PARTNER WITH, IS ACTUALLY SORT OF A LEADER ON DATA DRIVEN MICRO TRANSIT VERSUS FIXED TRANSIT, FIXED POINT TRANSIT.

AND THEY ARE, THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB EVALUATING THE DATA THAT TELLS YOU WHERE THE ROUTES OUGHT TO BE AND THEN THAT'S WHERE YOU END UP PUTTING A FIXED ROUTE WHEN IT GETS A CERTAIN SIZE. SO THEY, THEY ARE SORT OF A LEADER. I TALKED TO PAUL CHRISTINA, WHO IS THE CEO OF DCTA THE OTHER DAY AND HE HAS, HE HOPES TO CONTINUE TO HAVE, INCREASE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM AND SEE HOW WE EXPAND THINGS, ESPECIALLY NOW WITH THE SILVER LINE COMING THROUGH HERE. SO THAT WAS ALL VERY ENCOURAGING. TALKING ABOUT THE STATE LEGISLATURE THIS NEXT SESSION. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE MAY HAVE IN THE SENATE IS IN THE PAST THERE WERE ONLY A COUPLE OF SENATORS WILLING TO STAND UP TO LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR. THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS ARE NOW GONE. SO THAT COULD BE A CHALLENGE AS WE GO INTO THE NEXT SESSION AS PATRICK CONTINUES TO CONCENTRATE POWER IN HIS OFFICE. THERE WERE A COUPLE THINGS YVONNE DAVIS MENTIONED I THOUGHT WERE VERY TELLING. AND THIS IS SOMETIMES WHEN AT LOCAL LEVEL WE LOOK TO THE LEGISLATOR TO SOLVE SOME OF OUR PROBLEMS. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IDEA IS IT'S LIKE GOING TO MOM AND DAD AND TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION. WELL, THEY MAY DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU ACTUALLY WANTED DONE TO BEGIN WITH. SO, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS ENCOURAGING US TO FIX AS MANY PROBLEMS AS WE CAN IN THIS REGION BEFORE WITHOUT GOING TO THE LEGISLATURE BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF THAT. ONE SIDE NOTE, IN 1980 WE HAD ABOUT 2.75 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE METROPLEX. WE HAVE JUST NOW CROSSED 9 MILLION. SO THAT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE PRESSURE ON THE SYSTEM, INFRASTRUCTURE PRESSURE, THE TRANSPORTATION, WATER, WHATEVER ELSE, IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE THERE. ONE THING I WOULD SAY WE NEED TO WATCH IS THERE IS A CURRENT

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BUT IT'S CALLED, LET'S SEE, IT'S CALLED THE BUILD 250 ACT. IT ACTUALLY HAS $580 MILLION IN IT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. AND ACTUALLY HIGHWAY FUNDING GOES UP 8% FROM THE CURRENT BILL.

HOWEVER, TRANSIT AND RAIL FUNDING IS DOWN 20% FROM THE LAST FUNDING. SO YOU CAN SORT OF SEE WHERE THE US HOUSE IS SORT OF FOCUSED AND IT'S MORE ON HIGHWAYS, LESS ON TRANSIT.

THERE IS $50 MILLION IN NEW BRIDGE INVESTMENT. WE HAVE AGING BRIDGES ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY AND SO THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE A BOOST. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO WATCH. IT'S COME OUT OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEE IN WASHINGTON D.C. AND SO WE'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE.

THE LAST THING I WILL MENTION IS WE HAVE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES THAT ARE OFF INTO THE FUTURE.

TEXAS ACTUALLY HAS THE MOST PERMISSIVE FRAMEWORK SET UP SO FAR FROM A REGULATION STANDPOINT. AND SO WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT GOES. ALONG WITH THAT VERY PERMISSIVE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK HOWEVER, IS ALSO A CONTINUED PREEMPTION ON LOCAL AUTHORITIES. AND SO IT'S ALL CENTRALIZED AT THE STATE LEVEL AND IT WILL LIMIT WHAT WE CAN DO AT THE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL WHICH IS SORT OF A CONTINUATION OF THE THE CURRENT WIN. SO IN THE NEXT SESSION WE'LL SEE HOW THE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES WHICH ARE ALL ALREADY THE, THERE'S ALREADY COMMERCIAL AUTONOMOUS COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC UP AND DOWN SOME OF THE HIGHWAYS AROUND THE STATE. SO WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT CONTINUES TO GO IN THE FUTURE. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE GOING ON GOVERNING WISE FROM THE RTC AND COG, BUT THAT'S MORE TO COME ON THAT. MAYBE I'LL UPDATE NEXT

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AND WHEN WE'RE COMPLETED WITH THAT WE WILL COME BACK OUT HERE. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED AND WELCOME TO JOIN US AS WE TALK ABOUT NAMING OF NON PARK FACILITIES. WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE AT THE WORK SESSION.

WE HAVE ONE ITEM LEFT ON THE AGENDA WHICH IS DISCUSSION REGARDING THE NAMING OF NON PARK FACILITIES. AND I HEAR THAT MS. LEECH IS GOING TO BE TALKING THROUGH IT. I AM, I AM VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE TONIGHT. SO I AM HERE TO PRESENT SOME FOLLOW UP INFORMATION TO YOU FROM THE FEBRUARY 2026 WORK SESSION.

AT THAT WORK SESSION, STAFF RECEIVED DIRECTION TO DRAFT A PROPOSED POLICY WITH THREE PARAMETERS TO ADD.

THE FIRST WAS TO ADD LONGTIME VOLUNTEERS TO THE LIST OF ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS WHEN WE WERE CONSIDERING NAMING. THE SECOND IS TO UTILIZE EXISTING BOARD STRUCTURE TO VET THE REQUESTS.

AND THE THIRD IS TO HONOR CURRENT BUILDING NAMES BY MAKING THE PROCESS VERY HIGH STANDARD. SO THE POLICY WAS DRAFTED WITH THE VALUES OF FAIRNESS, TRANSPARENCY AND CONSISTENCY SO THAT ALL INVOLVED, FROM APPLICANTS TO COUNCIL MEMBERS TO COMMUNITY, WOULD UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND THE CRITERIA.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE KEY PIECES OF THE FIVE SECTIONS OF THE POLICY THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET. SO THE FIRST IS DEFINITIONS, AND WE ONLY HAVE TWO. AND SO IT DEFINES THE ELIGIBLE BUILDINGS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY DEFINES THE WHAT A COMMUNITY LEADER IS FOR THE COMMUNITY. THAT WAS DRAFTED AND INTENDED TO BE A VERY HIGH. THE NAMING OF A FACILITY IN HONOR OF AN INDIVIDUAL IS ONE OF THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS WAYS THAT YOU CAN HONOR SERVICE TO A COMMUNITY. AND SO IT WAS WITH THE INTENT THAT THAT SERVICE SHOULD BE EXCEPTIONAL IN NATURE. IT DID IF THE DEFINITION OF COMMUNITY LEADER DID EXCLUDE CURRENT SITTING COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CURRENTLY SERVING STAFF MEMBERS. SO YOU HAVE TO CONCLUDE YOUR SERVICE AND THEN YOU ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE NAMING IF YOU MEET THE OTHER CRITERIA. WHAT IF YOU ALREADY HAVE YOUR NAME OPEN? NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. OH. THE SECOND SECTION IS DEFINING THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS AND THIS SETS THE MINIMUMS FOR YEARS OF CONTRIBUTION,

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I DID LEAVE THE YEAR THE YEARS OF SERVICE FOR COUNCIL. NO, IT IS IN YOUR PACKET. IT'S IN THE PACKET. SO FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, I HAVE LEFT THAT BLANK. IF WE USE WE USE ADDISON AS THE, AS A GUIDE, WHICH I HAVE USED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITY POLICIES TO COBBLE THIS TOGETHER. BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT I HEARD. ADDISON HAS A 10 YEAR MINIMUM IN ORDER TO BE CONSIDERED AS A, TO HAVE ANYTHING NAMED AFTER A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER.

FOR US, THAT'S SLIGHTLY AWKWARD BECAUSE OUR TERMS FOR YOU ALL IS THREE YEAR TERMS. AND SO IF WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT AN INITIAL PROPOSAL OUT THERE, WE WOULD BE RECOMMENDING NINE YEARS, SO ESSENTIALLY THREE FULL TERMS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.

THE THIRD AREA THAT THE POLICY COVERS IS THE SUBMISSION PROCESS ITSELF. AND SO THERE ARE TWO WAYS THAT THE POLICY ALLOWS FOR SUBMISSIONS TO COME UP FOR CONSIDERATION.

THE FIRST IS COMMUNITY INITIATED, SO ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY CAN COMPLETE THE APPLICATION AND SUBMIT A NAME FOR CONSIDERATION. AND THE SECOND AVENUE IS A COUNCIL INITIATED NAMING OF A FACILITY. BOTH, NO MATTER WHICH GROUP THAT REQUEST COMES FROM, THE CURRENT POLICY ARE THE PROPOSED POLICY AS IT'S DRAFTED WOULD HAVE BOTH OF THOSE SUBMISSIONS GO THROUGH A VERY SIMILAR PROCESS.

THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IS THE FUNDING WHERE IF IT COMES FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBER, AN INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY MEMBER, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT AROUND CONTRIBUTION FOR THE RENAMING, THE ACTUAL LETTERING AND WHATEVER KIND OF RECOGNITION THAT INDIVIDUAL WOULD LIKE TO SEE. IF THOSE COME FROM THE COUNCIL INITIATED APPLICATIONS, THOSE COSTS WOULD JUST BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE PROJECT TO IMPLEMENT.

THE FOURTH AREA IS AROUND THE EXCLUSIONS. AND SO THIS POLICY DOES NOT COVER ANY OF OUR FACILITIES THAT ARE UNDER THE COMMUNITY EXPERIENCES UMBRELLA BECAUSE THAT ARE ALL OF THOSE FACILITIES ARE ALREADY COVERED UNDER THE PARC ORDINANCE THAT'S INCLUDED IN OUR ORDINANCES. AS I MENTIONED, IT DOES EXCLUDE CURRENTLY SITTING COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CURRENTLY SERVING STAFF MEMBERS FROM CONSIDERATION AND IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT IS OF THE SPONSORSHIP NATURE. SO RECALL THAT WE HAD THE CONVERSATION DURING THE LAST WORK SESSION AROUND HOW WOULD WE HANDLE SPONSORSHIPS AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO SPONSORSHIP, THE NAMING RIGHTS FOR BUILDINGS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS, THAT IS ALL SEPARATE AND APART FROM THIS POLICY. THE LAST SECTION I'LL COVER WITH YOU THIS EVENING IS AROUND JUST KIND OF THE MISCELLANEOUS. SO THE JUNK DRAWER OF THIS POLICY. SO ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS WAS AROUND IF THERE WAS AN APPLICATION SUBMITTED TO RENAME A FACILITY THAT ALREADY HAS A NAME ATTACHED TO IT. WE WANTED TO SET A VERY, VERY HIGH BAR FOR THAT TO OCCUR. AND SO UNDER THE PROPOSED POLICY THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT AN AFFIDAVIT THAT SAYS NO LIVING DESCENDANTS OF THAT PERSON ARE STILL RESIDING IN THE CITY OF COPPELL. SO AS AN EXAMPLE, IF THERE WAS A.

AND THIS IS IN THE PARK. SO THE EXAMPLE I'M GOING TO GIVE RIGHT NOW IS IN A PARK FACILITY. SO IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE COVERED. BUT LET'S JUST SAY FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO RENAME ANDY BROWN CENTRAL TO RAMESH PREMKUMAR CENTRAL. THAT PERSON WHO SUBMITTED RAMESH'S NAME WOULD HAVE TO CERTIFY THAT THERE ARE NO LIVING DESCENDANTS OF ANDY BROWN STILL LIVING HERE IN COPPELL. BECAUSE THAT THAT INITIAL NAMING WAS THERE FOR A REASON TO HONOR THAT INDIVIDUAL. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT RENAMING GETS INTO CONSIDERATION. THERE ARE SOME INSTALLATION COST EXCLUSIONS. SO FOR ANY OF THOSE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE INITIATED BY AN INDIVIDUAL IN THE COMMUNITY, WE WOULD NOT BE ASKING THEM TO FUND, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF BUSINESS CARDS OR ANY OF THE INTERIOR SIGNAGE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED AS PART OF THAT. IT'S REALLY HOW WOULD THE EXTERIOR HONORING OF THAT INDIVIDUAL, THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT. AND FINALLY THERE IS BROAD, BROADLY WORDED STATEMENT AT THE END THAT ESSENTIALLY GIVES THE COUNCIL DISCRETION TO REVOKE OR CHANGE A NAME AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON, AT YOUR DISCRETION. SO AT THIS TIME, I'LL BE HAPPY TO

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MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, SIR. I LIKE THE POLICY. I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK YOU PUT IN, MS. TRACY. THE ONLY THING I DON'T LIKE IS THAT IF, IF IT'S COUNCIL INITIATED, THE CITY FUNDS THE SIGNAGE. IF IT'S CITIZEN INITIATED, THEY FUND THE SIGNAGE. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF THIS, IF A CITIZEN NOMINATES SOMEONE, THE COUNCIL WOULD STILL HAVE TO DECIDE THAT, MAKE THE DECISION AS TO WHETHER THAT APPLICATION WOULD BE ACCEPTED, THE NAME WOULD BE CHANGED OR OTHERWISE IMPOSED ON THE FACILITY. SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE CITY SHOULD FUND THE SIGNAGE EITHER WAY, BECAUSE WHETHER COUNCIL INITIATES IT OR THE CITIZEN INITIATES IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO COME THROUGH THE VETTING PROCESS.

IT'LL BE SUBJECT TO THE STANDARDS YOU'VE IDENTIFIED.

AND IF COUNCIL DECIDED, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY GLAD YOU RECOMMENDED THAT, MR. CITIZEN. WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. I'M CONCERNED THAT KNOWING THAT, WELL, YEAH, IF I NOMINATE THIS PERSON AND I ACTUALLY AM SUCCESSFUL, I'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS TO PAY FOR THE SIGNAGE. COULD BE A DETERRENT TO THE CITIZENS, AN INITIATED NOMINATION. SO, AND SINCE THE COUNCIL WOULD ULTIMATELY BE APPROVING THE NAMING AT THE END OF THE DAY ANYWAYS, I, I WOULDN'T ATTACH A PRICE TO THE CITIZEN INITIATING.

DON. I TAKE THAT I'D GO ONE STEP FURTHER ON THAT ONE. I EVEN WONDERED IF THEY ALL OUGHT TO BE CITY COUNCIL INITIATED TO BEGIN WITH. AND JUST BASICALLY CITIZENS WOULD WORK THROUGH A COUNCIL PERSON TO ACTUALLY RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, SOME NAMING AND SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY A COUNCIL PERSON WOULD SPONSOR THE, YOU KNOW, RAISING IT UP TO THE COUNCIL. AND SO INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT WHOLE PROCESS, AND THIS MAY BE A STRETCH, BUT LET'S SAY SOMEBODY CAME IN HERE AND WAS WILLING TO SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS TO NAME IT AFTER SOMEBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NOT WANT, NECESSARILY WANT THAT TO BE THE CASE. WE'D HAVE THE FINAL SAY IN IT, BUT IT WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE ALL VETTED, ALL IN PUBLIC. SO MAYBE ROUTING IT THROUGH COUNCIL AND HAVING THEM INITIATE IT AND HAVING SOMEBODY ON COUNCIL SPONSOR IT MIGHT BE THE BETTER WAY TO DO IT. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'D RECOMMEND. I DO LIKE THE TERMS LIKE THE 10 YEARS FOR THE VOLUNTEERS SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD THRESHOLD. AND THEN LIKEWISE, THREE, THREE TERMS FOR COUNCIL OR MAYOR PROBABLY SOUNDS. SOUNDS RIGHT. WHICH IS GOING TO LEAVE ME OUT BECAUSE I GOT SHORTED ONE YEAR ON ONE. I GOT TO GO A FOURTH TERM. AND THEN THE ONE QUESTION I DID HAVE IS 25 YEARS FOR STAFF, WHICH, WHICH I DON'T MIND HAVING A HIGH BAR FOR STAFF. IT FELT LIKE A BIG VARIANCE FROM THE VOLUNTEER AND THE ELECTED THRESHOLD OF ONLY 9 OR 10. SO I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO 25. IT JUST SEEMED LIKE A LOT FOR A STAFF MEMBER. YOU COULD HAVE A STAFF MEMBER COME IN HERE AND ONLY BE IN HERE.

WELL, STILL IT HAS TO BE A HIGH BAR. BUT LET'S SAY THEY COULD BE IN HERE ONLY 10 OR 11 YEARS AND STILL MAKE A HUGE IMPACT TO THE CITY, BUT THEY WOULD NOT REALLY BE, YOU KNOW, ELIGIBLE BECAUSE THEY'VE ONLY GOT HALF THE TENURE. EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE.

IT WAS VERY IMPACTFUL. SO I GUESS I'D OPEN IT UP TO OTHER THOUGHTS. WHILE MAYBE IT IS MORE THAN JUST A VOLUNTEER, BUT MAYBE IT'S MORE LIKE 15 OR SOMETHING. JUST SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT CLOSER OR. I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO HEAR SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT. SO THOSE ARE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS ON A COUPLE OF THOSE ITEMS. MARK. YOU KNOW WHAT JIM SAID, THERE'S REALLY WHAT JUMPED OUT AT ME WHEN, WHEN I READ THIS AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE CITIZEN SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CHANGING THE SIGNAGE AND INCURRING THE CAUSE. RAMESH.

LOOKING FOR THE PARDON. THANK YOU, MAYOR. FORGOT THERE ARE NO MICS HERE. SO TRACY, THANKS FOR THE WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THE LANDSCAPE RESEARCH BECAUSE THAT WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. SO YOU MENTIONED YOU ALREADY LOOKED AT WHAT ADDISON IS DOING, OTHER CITIES AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER NOW, IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE HANDY SOME OF THE

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AND I'M SURE YOU'VE ALREADY FACTORED INTO IT, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY FACE ON THE FUNDING PART, I'M IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT JIM AND MARK SAID. IF THE RESIDENT THINKS OF SOMEBODY AND THEY WERE STILL GOING TO GO THROUGH THE TOUGH SCREENING PROCESS BY THE CITY COUNCIL, I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO SAY LET'S FUND THIS AND NOT EXPECT THE PROPOSAL TO ACTUALLY COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL IF THAT RECOMMENDER DOESN'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO MOVE FORWARD. AND I LIKE THE THREE TERMS FOR CITY COUNCIL. AND ONE FINAL QUESTION, TRACY, I KNOW IN YOUR SCOPE YOU TALKED ABOUT NON PARK CITY BUILDINGS, ARE STREETS INCLUDED OR NOT INCLUDED IN THIS. THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED. SO THAT WOULD BE.

THERE IS A PROCESS TO RENAME STREETS. OKAY, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT PROCESS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

KEVIN. I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH THE, WITH COMING THROUGH COUNCIL. I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE FUNDING THAT WAS DISCUSSED.

I THINK ALL THAT MAKES SENSE.

I'M GONNA PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE ON ONE THING, ALL RIGHT? AND I'M NOT TRYING TO INSERT A POT OF ANYTHING, BUT.

BUT JUST PUTTING A, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY LIKE A, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU HAVE TO COMPLETE THREE YEARS TO BE CONSIDERED ON COUNCIL.

DOES THAT ENCOURAGE SOMEBODY TO SERVE LONGER? I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE. SAY THAT AGAIN. THREE TERMS. BY SAYING I'M ELIGIBLE TO GET A BUILDING NAMED AFTER ME, DOES IT ENCOURAGE SOMEONE TO RUN LONGER FOR THAT? AND I'M JUST ASKING A QUESTION.

IT JUST. IT POPPED IN MY HEAD, BUT. SO I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A GOOD THING OR NOT. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON. I ACTUALLY HAD THE SAME QUESTION, BECAUSE I WONDERED IF THERE WILL BE FUTURE COUNCILS THAT MAY WANT TERM LIMITS. AND SO IT COULD BE THAT YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE IT'S NINE YEARS, BUT NOT CONSECUTIVE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT I WAS JUST THINKING THAT, LIKE, RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE TERM LIMITS. WHO'S TO SAY THAT THERE WON'T BE PEOPLE AROUND THIS TABLE AT SOME POINT THAT HAVE TERM LIMITS? AND IT'S TWO TERMS, SO THEY WON'T GET THE NINE YEARS. SHOULD THERE BE A COMBINATION OF TIME ON THE CITY AND SERVICE TO THE CITY? TIME ON CITY COUNCIL, PLUS SERVICE TO CITY. I MEAN, I'M CONSIDER A LITTLE DIFFERENT DIRECTION. IF I TOOK A LOOK AT THE PAST 15 TO 20 YEARS OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ABOUT 75% OF THEM HAVE SERVED THREE TERMS. SO THREE TERMS IS NOT THAT LIMITING. I WOULD ACTUALLY SUGGEST THAT WE GO UP SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER, ESPECIALLY FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. IF YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A BOARDS OR COMMISSION MEMBER, THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. BUT I THINK THE BAR OUGHT TO BE A BIT HIGHER SINCE YOU'RE ELECTED. BRIANNA HELPED ME OUT, BUT I HAD MARCIA TENNELL, DOUG STOVER, BILLY FONT, TIM BRADSHAW, GARY RODEN, KAREN HUNT, MARK HILL, CLIFF LONG, BRIANNA AND BIJU AND MYSELF WOULD ALL BE ELIGIBLE AT NINE YEARS. I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT LONG OF A LIST OF ELIGIBILITY.

CANDY SHAN. JUST A, JUST A THOUGHT. AGAIN, TO MY POINT, THOUGH, IF YOU EXTEND IT TO 12 YEARS, TO 15 YEARS, LIKE, ARE YOU 18, ARE YOU ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO SERVE UNDER I DON'T THINK PUTTING YOUR NAME ON YOUR PHONE IS GOING TO FORCE OR ENCOURAGE YOU TO SERVE FOR 15 YEARS. THERE'S SOME MAIN PEOPLE OUT THERE WE DON'T KNOW YET. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT, I DON'T THINK, I MEAN I DON'T PRESUME THAT IN FOUR TERMS IF I GOT ELECTED BECAUSE I'D DO ANYTHING ANYBODY WANT TO PUT MY NAME ON THE BUILDING FOR. BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT COULD SERVE IN THREE TERMS AND DO SOMETHING MEANINGFUL THAT MIGHT MERIT THAT. SO. AND I THINK THREE TERMS IS A BIG DEAL JUST BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A HISTORY OF PEOPLE SERVING FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

TO ME THAT'S A REAL PLUS. AND I HOPE WE DON'T GET TERM LIMITS BECAUSE I BENEFIT TOO OFTEN FROM Y'ALLS KNOWLEDGE AND ACCUMULATED WISDOM QUITE FRANKLY. AND I REALLY DO LOOK TO WHAT Y'ALL THINK AND SAY ON THINGS BECAUSE YOU'VE SO OFTEN

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ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE HAVE A MUD FIGHT TO SEE WHO WINS? NO, BUT THE THING ABOUT IT IS FOR MOST PEOPLE, THIS IS FOR MOST PEOPLE BY THE TIME THEY'VE DONE THEIR NINTH YEAR ON COUNCIL THAT WAS PROBABLY PRECEDED BY PARK BOARD, P AND G, SOMETHING ELSE. RIGHT. SO YOU KNOW, NOT FOR EVERYBODY BUT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. SO YOU KNOW, I, I JUST THINK EACH CANDIDATE WOULD BE EVALUATED ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL MERIT AND NINE YEARS SEEMS FINE TO ME. SO DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? I DID DON AND THEN BRIANNA. AND I WOULD SAY ALONG THOSE LINES, IT DISCRETION IS STILL UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHO IS WORTHY ENOUGH REGARDLESS OF HOW LONG ANYBODY HAS SERVED.

IT'S JUST SORT OF A MINIMUM.

LIKE REALLY IT NEEDS TO BE SOMEBODY SELF. SO I, I THINK IT'S A GOOD. BECAUSE I DO THINK YOU COULD HAVE SOMEBODY WHO SERVED A COUPLE OF TERMS AND THROUGH A VERY IMPACTFUL PART TIME IN THE CITY AND HAD, YOU KNOW, A LOT GO ON AND THEY COULD BE. OR THEY COULD SERVE FIVE TERMS. EVERYONE JUST TAKE THEIR GAS.

EXACTLY. WONDER HOW THEY KEEP GETTING REAL. YEAH, WE GOT IT ROSE. SO I THINK ULTIMATELY THE COUNCIL STILL DECIDES WHO'S WORTHY ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY GET ON THE BUILDING. FAIR POINT, BRIANNA. SO I HAVE TWO THINGS.

ONE IS, OKAY, SO NON PARK FACILITIES. HOW MANY FACILITIES DOES THAT COVER? SURE. SO IT'S TOWN CENTER, THE SERVICE CENTER. SO WE FRONT FACING. SO TOWN CENTER, SERVICE CENTER, 265 PARKWAY. WE HAVE FIVE FIRE STATIONS, THE JUSTICE CENTER, LIFE SAFETY PARK, THE HANGAR AND THE ANIMAL STAND SERVICES BUILDING. OKAY. SO THERE AREN'T THAT MANY REALLY. YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT. I MEAN IT'S MORE THAN THREE OR FOUR, BUT.

OKAY. IT'S NOT 15. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND THEN THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING THAT JUST KIND OF STOOD OUT TO ME WAS THE.

LET'S JUST SAY WE NAME A FIRE STATION AFTER CLAY. AND THEN I DON'T SEE HIM MOVING.

BUT MAYBE THAT'S A BAD EXAMPLE.

BUT WE TALKED ABOUT LIKE SOMEBODY COULD COME AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE A LIVING DESCENDANT, THEN THAT NAME CAN CHANGE. I WONDERED IF WE THOUGH WE COULD PUT LIKE AFTER FIVE YEARS OR TEN YEARS OF THAT NAME BEING ON THAT BUILDING SO THAT IT'S NOT CONSTANTLY TURNING BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE LEAVE, PEOPLE MOVE, THINGS HAPPEN. AND WE ALSO KNOW, I MEAN WE'VE GOT STAFF MEMBERS WHO HAVE SERVED THE COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY DIDN'T LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND SO I.

RIGHT. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FIT THAT CRITERIA. AND I JUST WANT TO THINK THROUGH THAT. THANK YOU. CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION ON THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD THAT YOU MENTIONED, LIKE AFTER ITS NAME, AFTER A BUILDING IS NAMED AFTER IT CANNOT BE RENAMED WITHIN A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

YEAH, AND I WAS JUST THROWING IT. YEAH, AND I WAS JUST THROWING AT IT. WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS. I JUST WANT TO SAY I REALLY LIKE THAT IDEA BECAUSE YOU KIND OF LOCK IN THAT. I WOULD SAY A MINIMUM, JUST 20, 25 YEARS, I THINK.

OKAY, YEAH, WHATEVER. WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS. JUST BECAUSE LIKE CHIEF RICHARDSON, HE DOESN'T LIVE IN COPPEL. RIGHT.

BUT HE SERVED A COMMUNITY.

SOMEONE MAY COME FORWARD AND SAY, HEY, WE'D LIKE TO NAME A FIRE STATION AFTER HIM. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE COMES BACK LATER SAYS, I WANT THAT SAME STATION NAMED AFTER SOMEBODY ELSE. AND IT'S LIKE, OH, WE JUST NAMED IT TWO YEARS AGO. I LIKE IT 25 YEARS.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. SO RAMESH IS NEXT IN THE DAWN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE COOLING OFF CONCEPT COUNCILMEMBER HINOJOSA-SMITH MENTIONED ALSO. WE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT VERY HIGH STANDARD IF IT IS A SIMPLE MAJORITY.

AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

BUT LET'S KEEP IN MIND THERE ARE ONLY 11 BUILDINGS TO BE NAMED. SO RIGHT NOW NONE OF THEM HAVE. BUT WE MAY QUICKLY GET TO A POINT WHERE THIS COUNCIL COULD HAVE NAMED 11T PLACES. RIGHT. AND FOR FUTURE COUNCILS THAT MIGHT BE PROBLEMATIC OR THEY MIGHT WANT TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. SO SHOULD BE LIKE THE COOLING OFF PERIOD OR

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OKAY. BUT I GUESS THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE. I GUESS I'D BRING UP AGAIN, DOES ANYBODY. IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THE 25 FOR STAFF AND IT'S ONLY 10 VOLUNTEERS AND ELECTED. WHAT WAS YOUR THOUGHT, THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT? SO I'M THE 25 THRESHOLD.

HONESTLY WE HAD DONE AN INTERNAL, WE HAD DONE AN INTERNAL PROGRAM AND IN ORDER TO BE IN ELIGIBLE FOR THAT YOU HAD TO BE HAVE 25 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY. NOT 25 YEARS IN THE SYSTEM. NOT 25 YEARS AS A WORKING ADULT. 25 YEARS IN THIS LIKE SOME LIKE BIG CLAY HAT FLOATING MY EARS. CLAY STARTED AT 92. SO. YES. OKAY.

YEAH. THE MENTAL MATH IS NOT MY. I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF PEOPLE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO THE QUICK AND DIRTY. OKAY.

I'VE GOT DON AND JIM AND KEVIN BUT I THINK KEVIN HAD ALL THE QUESTIONS OF HER SO I'M GONNA LET THEM JUMP IN. SO FROM WHAT I JUST HEARD WAS 25 YEARS INTERNALLY.

LIKE THAT'S THE STANDARD FOR YOU GUYS, RIGHT? THAT'S THE STANDARD WE USED FOR A SINGULAR PROGRAM. NOW 20 YEARS IS WHAT YOU NEED IN THE TMRS SYSTEM IN ORDER TO BE A, AN OFFICIAL RETIREE.

SO THAT COULD BE ANOTHER OPTION THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ARBITRARY BUT IT IS GROUNDED IN SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ALL USED TO. AND THAT WAS MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS LIKE I GUESS FROM A CITY STAFF PERSPECTIVE, YOU GUYS ARE THE STAFF.

LIKE WHAT IS THE BENCHMARK? LIKE IS IT LET'S GET 20 YEARS BECAUSE I HIT THE ELIGIBILITY, YOU KNOW REQUIREMENT IS IT IS 25 A SPECIAL NUMBER? IS 30 A SPECIAL NUMBER LIKE BECAUSE YOU GET THE FANCY AWARD SURVIVAL IS THE SPECIAL. A FAIR POINT. A FAIR POINT. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE POLICY THAT YOU HAVE UNDER CONSIDERATION TONIGHT, THAT'S REALLY A POLICY DECISION FOR THE COUNCIL ON WHETHER EVERYTHING ELSE IN HERE IS VERY COPPELL CENTRIC. SO YOU CAN'T. WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, STATE AND FEDERAL INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE BECAUSE WE WANTED THAT SERVICE TO BE HERE IN COPPELL. AND SO THAT'S PART OF WHY WE HAD STRUCTURED THE EMPLOYEE PIECE OF THAT THE WAY WE DID.

BECAUSE WE WANTED THAT TO BE SIGNIFICANT, EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY. NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AS A WHOLE, BUT IT WAS THIS COMMUNITY.

ANOTHER WAY THAT WE MIGHT CAN ADDRESS THAT IS TO ADD A KIND OF A BLANKET GENERIC STATEMENT AROUND THE COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER ANY OTHER CRITERIA THAT THEY DEEM APPROPRIATE IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF THAT. WELL, IT'S BECAUSE IT IS YOUR DISCRETION. I MEAN THAT FROM A FLEXIBILITY STANDPOINT, IT ALLOWS YOU TO CONSIDER A LOT OF THE THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON A CASE BY CASE TRACING BASIS. IS THIS EXPECTED TO BE ADOPTED AS A RESOLUTION OR AS AN ORDINANCE? THIS IS JUST AN INTERNAL. I MEAN THIS IS JUST A POLICY.

THAT'S THE REASON I ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE THE PARKS BOARD AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS IT KIND OF LAYS OUT RIGHT. UNLESS YOU WERE ADOPT THIS BY ORDINANCE IS BASICALLY A GUIDELINE FOR YOU. THE PART, THE POLICY FOR THE PARK FACILITY NAMING IS IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. I MEAN, THEY DID ADOPT THAT POLICY.

RIGHT. I'M SO SORRY. DON.

I GUESS THE RESPONSE. I STILL, IT'S STILL A DISCONNECT FOR ME BECAUSE VOLUNTEERS ARE ONLY 10 YEARS. BUT THEN WE'RE SAYING STAFF IS 25 AND WE'RE USING TENURE AS THAT'S WHAT STAFF DID TO CONTRIBUTE TO COPPELL.

BUT A VOLUNTEER, WE'RE SAYING THEY CAN DO IT IN MUCH LESS THAN 25 YEARS. SO THAT'S WHERE I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE DISCONNECT IS BECAUSE I THINK YOU CAN HAVE A STAFF MEMBER WHO WAS HERE WAY LESS THAN 25 YEARS THAT HAD SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION OR SAME THING ON VOLUNTEER, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED TO TAKE THEM TO 25 YEARS. MY

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BUT EMPLOYEES GET SOME BENEFIT OUT OF THAT WHEN SALARY IS A BENEFIT. RIGHT. SO I MEAN, I'M OKAY INCREASING VOLUNTEERS TO 15 YEARS JUST SO THAT IT'S CLOSER TO 25 AND 10, BUT IT CAN'T BE THE SAME NUMBER IN MY OPINION. I GUESS I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THE STAFF MEMBER IS DOING MORE THAN THE VOLUNTEERS ARE DOING. TRUE, TRUE. I MEAN, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. BUT SO OUT OF 11 PROPERTIES, IF WE SAY X FOR VOLUNTEERS AND Y NUMBER FOR STAFF, SO THERE WILL STILL BE ONE OR TWO THAT WE WOULD SAY IT'S FOR VOLUNTEERS AND THEN OF THAT I THINK 10 IS THE MINIMUM CUTOFF. WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE PEOPLE WITH 15 AND 20 AND 25. SO I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE TOO MANY PROBLEMS SELECTING THE BEST. THERE WILL BE PEOPLE VOLUNTEERISM AND WE ONLY HAVE ONE OR TWO BUILDINGS TO BE NAMED AFTER VOLUNTEER AND I SUSPECT THERE WON'T BE A WHOLE LOT OF BUILDINGS NAMED PERIOD.

QUITE FRANKLY, THERE'S NOT. SO ANYWAY, I HEAR YOU. JIM. I GOT YOU NEXT. THANK YOU, SIR. SO I AM IN FAVOR OF STATUS 20. I MEAN I THINK IF YOU HANG AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO RETIRE, YOU OUGHT TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR NAMING RIGHTS. AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. YES SIR, GO AHEAD. POINT OF CLARIFICATION. YOU CAN 20 YEARS OF SERVICE IN THE CITY OF COPPELL. YEAH, BECAUSE I MEAN IT'S JUST ELIGIBILITY. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT VOLUNTEER FOR 10 YEARS. I MEAN.

BUT WE STILL, WE STILL CHERISH THEIR SERVICE.

SO, BUT I WANTED TO DO ONE CLARIFICATION. SO BECAUSE YOU KNOW IN A REVENUE START WORLD I'M ALWAYS LOOKING TO RAISE REVENUE. SO THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SELLING NAMING RIGHTS.

CORRECT. SPONSORSHIPS IS A STANDALONE ALL BY ITSELF. DO WE HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE TO THAT EFFECT? NO. OKAY. ARE WE OPPOSED? NO. OR WE JUST DON'T HAVE ONE? IT'S BEEN. WE JUST. WE GO ONE AND SO LET'S BACK UP FOR JUST ONE MOMENT.

EVEN THOUGH THIS IS ALL ABOUT THIS IN THE OLD WORLD, SPONSORSHIPS WEREN'T SOMETHING THAT WE ACTIVELY PURSUED. OH I KNOW IN A NEW WORLD IT MAY BE PRUDENT FOR US TO ACTIVELY PURSUE. THERE ARE SOME POLICY ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH SPONSORSHIP. SURE.

ON A BUILDING THAT'S BUILT WITH BOND FUNDS YOU CAN.

THERE'S A LIMIT TO HOW MUCH YOU CAN BOND FUNDS.

RIGHT, RIGHT. I DIDN'T MEAN TO SIDE RAIL THIS VIDEO BUT THAT AS LONG AS THIS IS SEPARATE APART, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ANYTHING.

THEN IT CERTAINLY WON'T INTERFERE WITH WHAT WE DON'T HAVE. PLACE ONE SPONSORED BY BLUEVILLE, THE SERVICE CENTER. THERE ARE INDUSTRIAL COMPANIES THAT MIGHT HAVE A REAL INTEREST IN SPOT IN BUYING NAMING RIGHTS FOR THE SERVICE CENTER. LIKE IN ONE OF MY CITIES, THE TRADER JOE'S DID SPLASH THAT. I MEAN THE CORE. THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF FITNESS RELATED COMPANIES THAT MIGHT WANT TO BUY NAMING RIGHTS TO THE CORE. THERE ARE LIMIT TO HIS POINT. THERE ARE LIMITATIONS BECAUSE SOME OF THESE ARE DEBT FUNDING AND THERE IS ACTUALLY A LIMITATION BY LAW OF HOW MUCH YOU CAN.

HOW MUCH YOU CAN USE FROM A DIFFERENT REVENUE SOURCE.

GOTCHA. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I'M OUT OF MY LIST OF PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING. TRACY, SUMMARIZE WHAT I'VE HEARD YOU'LL SHARE SO FAR IN TERMS OF THE AREA. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SAY? I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU TO PUT ALL YOUR THOUGHTS TOGETHER AND COME BACK TO US AGAIN.

BUT TELL US WHAT. YES, OKAY.

SO I CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.

LET ME MAKE SURE THAT WHAT I'M GOING TO PUT TOGETHER TOGETHER MATCHES WHAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE. YEAH. SO WE WILL CHANGE THE EMPLOYEE MINIMUM TO 25 YEARS. EXCUSE ME, FROM 25 TO 20. WE WILL USE A.

CORRECT. YEAH. FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBER SERVICE THAT WILL BE NINE YEARS. CAN BE NON CONSECUTIVE. WE WILL ELIMINATE THE FUNDING REQUIREMENT FOR ANY PRO. ANY APPLICATION THAT IS COMMUNITY INITIATED.

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SPONSORED BY SOMEONE. YEAH.

EFFECTIVELY YOU'RE GETTING PUSHED. YOU'RE ASKING A COUNCIL MEMBER LIKE SOMEONE COMING AND SAY PRE SCREENED IT WITH THE COUNCIL PERSON AT LEAST. SO WE WILL THEN HAVE THE. THE WAY TO APPLY IS VIA CITY COUNCIL.

YEAH. CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? I LOVE THE IDEA, BUT THE FINAL DECISION IS GOING TO BE MADE BY CITY COUNCIL ANYWAY. SO WHY DON'T WE MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE DEMOCRATIC AND ALLOW ANY RESIDENT TO FILE A REQUEST.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED ORIGINALLY. OR THAT'S WHAT THEY WROTE IN ORIGINALLY. TRUE. I'M LIKING THAT. I DON'T THINK THIS OTHER RESTRICTS THAT FROM HAPPENING.

I GUESS YOU JUST. YOU'VE GONE THROUGH A COUNCIL PERSON OR TWO OR THREE OR WHATEVER TO SORT OF CARRY YOUR TORCH FOR YOU.

TO BE FAIR, THAT'S WHAT MOST PEOPLE DO WHEN THEY COME TO A COUNCIL MEMBER WITH AN ISSUE. THEY SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, LIKE I WANT TO SEE THAT. LIKE KIND OF. I KNOW IT WAS ASIDE, BUT SOMEONE ASKED JIM TO BRING UP, YOU KNOW, A DISCUSSION. AND WHAT DID JIM DO AS A RESPONSIBLE COUNCIL MEMBER? HE BRINGS IT TO US, WE DISCUSS, WE MOVE FROM THERE.

TO ME, IT'S THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE HAVE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. YEAH. MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT WE'D END UP WITH 50 APPLICATIONS AND THEN WE WOULD BE DELIBERATING ON 50 APPLICATIONS. I'D RATHER.

WHEREAS IF BRIANNA SAYS, HEY, YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED TO THIS PERSON, THEY'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD IDEA, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU START? YOU ASK THE QUESTION QUESTIONS AND YOU VET IT OUT A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN SHE SAYS, SO THIS IS WHAT THIS IS THE PERSON IN THE FACILITY. THEN I FEEL A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE.

OKAY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S NUMBER ONE. IT'S ONE APPLICATION. IT'S NOT 50. IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIBLE. THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN VERY RESPONSIBLE WITH THE PARKS AND WHAT THEY BROUGHT FORWARD AND EVERYTHING.

BUT IT DOES PREVENT. IF ANYBODY CAN JUST THROW ANYTHING OUT THERE, IT BECOMES PUBLIC INFORMATION AND WE HAVE TO. IF THEY MEET ALL THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME HERE AND WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE POTENTIALLY AWKWARD DISCUSSION TO KILL IT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO AT LEAST IT'S ONE MORE LAYER OF YOU GOT TO HAVE AT LEAST A COUNCIL PERSON WHO'S WILLING TO CARRY THE TORCH A LITTLE BIT FOR SOMETHING THIS PRESTIGIOUS, IF YOU WILL LIKE. I THINK. I THINK THAT EXTRA LAYER IS IMPORTANT. SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY. IT'S NOT TRYING TO KILL SUGGESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY. IT'S JUST TRYING TO NOT MAKE IT COMPLETELY THE WILD WEST SORT.

OKAY. SO THERE WILL BE COUNCIL INITIATED AND OR SPONSORED.

AND THEN APPROVAL OF ANY NAMING WOULD REQUIRE SUPER MAJORITY VOTING VOTE OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THAT WAS RENAMING. RENAMING. RENAMING.

OKAY. AND. AND. AND THEN DO YOU HAVE THE PART ABOUT THE RENAMING THE AFTER FOR 25 YEARS IS WHAT I WROTE DOWN. YES. SO 25 YEARS.

ADDITIONAL CHANGES ONCE A FACILITY HAS BEEN NAMED.

YEAH, 25 YEARS. AND THEN IT WOULD REQUIRE A SUPER MAJORITY.

YES, TO RENAME. CLARIFICATION.

TO ME, 25 SEEMS A LONG TIME IF THERE'S NO SURVIVING FAMILY MEMBERS LEFT. AND KEEP IN MIND WE ONLY HAVE 11 BUILDINGS. BUT WE HAD ORIGINALLY SURVIVING BUILDING.

I MEAN SURVIVING MEMBERS IN COPPELL. WE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY DON'T HAVE SURVIVING MEMBERS SOMEWHERE ELSE. I THINK THAT'S. I MEAN WE GOT THWEET.

WE GOT COSBY. I MEAN NOT ON.

ON THE NON PART. NOT ON THE PARK SIDE. BUT WE GOT SOME LEGACY COPPELL NAMES THAT ARE OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S. AND IT ALSO MAKES IT MORE. YOU HAVE TO BE MORE PRUDENT WHEN YOU DO NAME SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE OUT THERE. I AGREE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HIGHER STANDARD. IT'S GOING TO BE THERE MORE. YOU STILL WANT TO HAVE A BUNCH OF REVOLVING NAMES ON OUR BUILDINGS. I AGREE.

WELL PLUS THERE'S CERTAIN COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AGREED.

YEAH. SO BECAUSE PART OF THE ISSUE. SO ONE MORE CLARIFICATION. SO WE'RE.

DOES THE HAVING IT VETTED BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, PROPOSED BY COUNCIL MEMBER. JUST WRITE OUT THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITIZEN WOULD PAY FOR IT? YEAH, ALL THAT. THE COST SHARING ON THE CITIZEN. OKAY, WELL. GREAT WORK. I HEARD THAT LOUD AND CLEAR. SO CLARIFICATION, FOR APPROVING A NAME TO GO ON A BUILDING, SHOULD WE HAVE A HIGH STANDARD OF SUPER MAJORITY OR A SIMPLE MAJORITY? I PREFER A SUPER MAJORITY. PERSONAL. I

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SUPER MAJORITY FOR ALL.

EVERYTHING. WHETHER YOU'RE NAMING IT. SIX OUT OF SEVEN.

YEAH, I'M KIDDING. THAT'S FINE.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE SIX OF TEN.

FIVE OUT OF SEVEN.

THERE'S DIFFERENCE FOR MAJORITIES. OKAY. THERE'S TWO THIRDS AND THREE. FOUR. I THINK SIX OUT OF SEVEN. FIVE OUT OF SEVEN. I AGREE. ONE MORE BOAT. YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY. I THINK I HAVE. UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK. I THINK I HAVE ONE. ONE QUESTION, THOUGH, ABOUT ANYTHING THAT IS CURRENTLY NAMED RIGHT NOW. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT IS. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NAMED. I THINK THINGS. EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW THAT IS THE HEART IS A PARK. OKAY, NEVER MIND. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TRACY. OH, I HAD ONE MORE TICKET. HOW ARE YOU. WRITE THE TIME DOWN. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? YOU'RE NOT GETTING YOUR NAME ON. NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M. I THINK ABOUT ONE. SHOULD WE HONOR SOMEONE WITH JUST ONE FACILITY VERSUS MULTIPLE FACILITIES? I HAVE AN EXAMPLE IN OUR PARK SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE MULTIPLE. I AGREE. YEAH.

BUT ONE FACILITY. SO THEY'RE LIMITED TO ONE. I THINK SO.

WITH THE, WITH THE LIMIT UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ONLY HAVE A SMALL NUMBER OF BUILDINGS. I WONDER IF THE PARK SYSTEM WAS.

AND I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED. I WONDER IF IT WAS. BECAUSE IT WAS ONE BIG ONE PARK AND IT KIND OF GOT SPLIT UP AFTER A LONG TIME. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING.

BUT I DO AGREE WITH ONE BUILDING, YOU GET ONE. YEAH. MY GUESS IS THE CENTRAL AND EAST DESIGNATIONS. YEAH. WHEN PEOPLE ARE DRIVING AROUND GOING, WHERE ARE YOU? YEAH. OKAY. SO IS THAT CONSENSUS WITH ONE.

EVERYBODY GO WITH ONE SCENE? YEAH. YOU GET ONE BUILDING.

OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

WHAT ABOUT ACCESSORIES? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE TIME IS 09:15. GOOD EVENING. THE TIME IS 09:15 WE HAVE ADJOURNED FROM WORK SESSION AND ARE REENTERING CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT 9:15.

BUT THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THIS COUNCIL, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 9:15.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.