[1. Call To Order]
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OKAY. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS THE JULY 16TH MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THE TIME IS 6 O'
[2. Work Session (Open to the Public) a. Discussion of agenda items.]
CLOCK. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO CONVENE INTO PRE SESSION. WE'LL RECONVENE INTO GENERAL SESSION AT 6:30.OKAY, ARE WE LIVE? WE ON? YES, SIR.
OKAY, THIS IS OUR WORK SESSION, AND WE'LL KICK IT OFF WITH ROLL CALL. EDMOND HAAS, CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION.
COMMISSION MEMBERS VICE CHAIR, SUE BLANKENSHIP.
WE SHOULD BE COMING TO ANOTHER CHANGE DAY.
YOU'RE IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD TONIGHT.
AND WE'RE MISSING ANOTHER NAME HERE.
SAMIT HE WON'T BE HERE TONIGHT.
OKAY. OKAY. SO, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MARY, WHO CAN INTRODUCE STAFF AND THEN REVIEW THE CASES.
ALL RIGHT, SO MYSELF, MARY PARON-BOSWELL. THEN WE'VE GOT MATT STEER. THEN WE'VE GOT LUAY RAHIL, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. MR. COLE BAKER, CIVIL ENGINEER.
MS. KAMI MCGEE, CITY BOARD SECRETARY.
[INAUDIBLE] ALL RIGHT, SO. I'LL LET MATT GO OVER ITEM SIX.
ALL RIGHT, MATT, WE GO THROUGH THE CASES AND WE'LL JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK SUMMARY. SO, ITEM NUMBER SIX IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A PLAT FOR A BATCH PLANT. AND IT'S A TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT, WHICH IS NORMALLY ALLOWED BY RIGHT. AND SO, THIS IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT FOR LESS THAN SIX MONTHS WITHOUT WITHIN A PROPERTY THAT'S ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
BUT WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IS MAKE SURE THE PROPERTY'S BEEN PLATTED BEFORE THEY GET THEIR PERMIT.
AND SO, THEY'RE COMING THROUGH THE PLATTING PROCESS.
SO, WHEN THEY SUBMITTED THEIR PLAT, THEY ARE ASKING FOR TWO EXCEPTIONS. ONE'S TO THE PUBLIC ROAD FRONTAGE REQUIREMENT AND THE OTHER'S THE EXTENSION OF WATER SERVICE TO THE PROPERTY. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M BRINGING IT BEFORE THE COMMISSION. BECAUSE NORMALLY WE'D SIGN OFF ADMINISTRATIVELY ON A MINOR PLAT, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S THESE TWO EXCEPTIONS REQUIRES YOUR APPROVAL. SO ANYWAY, THAT IS WHAT IT IS.
IT'S TEMPORARY. THEY DO PLAN ON BRINGING THEIR OWN WATER TO THE SITE, YOU KNOW, VIA TRUCK. AND THEN THEY'LL PUT IT IN THE TANK AND USE IT THERE AND JUST DO A TEMPORARY OPERATION FOR LESS THAN SIX MONTHS.
ARE THERE NO RESTROOM FACILITIES? THEN IT'S JUST THE PLAN.
PROBABLY A PORTA POTTY AND A TEMPORARY OFFICE. SO WE DO PLAN ON BRINGING FORWARD A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE WHICH WOULD LIMIT THEIR TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT PERMIT TO ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS FOR THIS PROPERTY. SO THAT'LL BE A FORTHCOMING TEXT AMENDMENT ALONG WITH ANOTHER ONE THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD. GOT A TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE OVERALL ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND BEFORE THEY CAME WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND THAT WAS A LAND USE CHANGE REQUEST FOR THAT AND THAT WAS DENIED FOR LAND USE. THIS HAS. THIS IS STRICTLY FLATTING.
SO, IT'S A SPECIAL USE PERMIT BEFORE AND THAT WAS FOR FIVE YEARS IS WHEN WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO WITH THAT. AND THEN A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT.
SO IT'S TWO PARTS TO THAT REQUEST.
AND THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS ON THIS.
THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS. THE PUBLIC ROAD FRONTAGE, TYPICALLY YOU HAVE EVERY LOT IN TOWN HAS PUBLIC ROAD FRONTAGE AND THAT'S TO ENSURE THEY HAVE ACCESS.
WELL, WHAT THEY HAVE IS A 20 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT THROUGH THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES WHICH LEADS TO A PUBLIC ROAD WHICH IS CALLED VOLLEY DRIVE. RECENTLY DISCOVERED STREET HERE IN CAPELL. SO, BECAUSE IT IS AVAILABLE IN THE UP FRONT PUBLIC STREET.
AND WHAT IF THE ADJACENT LAND OWNER TOOK AWAY THAT EASEMENT? THEY WOULD BE. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS. THEY CAN'T. THEY CANNOT REMOVE THAT EASEMENT.
BECAUSE ONCE IT'S FILED WITH RECORD, IT'S ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT ONLY THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN ABANDON IT.
NOT THE ONE WHO GRANTED IT THE BENEFIT ESTATE,
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NOT THE RIGHT BURDEN. SO YEAH, THAT WAS FOR SALE.SO THEY HAVE NOTED ALSO ON THE PLAT THAT THAT A REPLAT WOULD BE REQUIRED WHEN THEY DO A PERMANENT USE ON THE PROPERTY. SO THAT WOULD FLAT FIRE LANES, 24 FOOT FIRE LANE ON SITE AND THEN FROM THIS PROPERTY TO THE PUBLIC ROAD AS WELL. SO THAT'S FOR FUTURE FOR WHEN THEY DO CREATE A BUILDING SITE.
THIS IS JUST A TEMPORARY SITE.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRE MEETING PRESENTATION.
HAS THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT THEY INTEND ONLY TO DO ONE? I DID TELL THEM THAT THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION THAT COMES UP TONIGHT AND SO THEY'RE READY TO ADDRESS IT.
PROJECT SPECIFIC. BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE A CONTRACTOR FOR I35 IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S WHY THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CONTRACT, I THINK WITH WHOEVER THAT CONTRACTOR IS TO SPLIT CONCRETE.
I ALSO THINK THEY ALREADY HAVE A LEASE ON THIS PROPERTY.
ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION? DON'T THEY OWN THE PROPERTY? THEY'VE GOT ALONG OUR CONTRACT WITHOUT PLOTTING IT. I THINK IT'S UNDER. THEY'VE LEASED IT DOWN.
I THINK STEVE KIMBRELL STILL OWNS IT, I BELIEVE.
OH, IS IT? YEAH, EDDIE'S BROTHER.
YES, MA' AM PROCEDURALLY, DOES THIS ITEM GO TO CITY COUNCIL, OR IS THIS ONE THAT DOESN'T GO TO CITY COUNCIL? DOES NOT. DOES NOT.
YOU GUYS ARE THE FINAL AUTHORITY.
AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE COME BEFORE US IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE EXCEPTIONS, CORRECT? YEAH.
YOU HAVE TO GRANT THE EXCEPTIONS. YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN THAT RESPONSIBILITY FROM THE COUNCIL TO WAIVE THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
YES. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, THIS IS NOT DEJA VU. SO, SHOPS AT SANDY LAKE, THEY'RE PROPOSING ESSENTIALLY VERY SIMILAR BECAUSE OF 14,480 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. ONE BUILDING. THE USES HAVE CHANGED. SO PREVIOUSLY, BACK IN APRIL, THEY CAME FORWARD WITH RETAIL, MEDICAL AND RESTAURANT USES WITH A PATIO. THEY'VE REMOVED THE RESTAURANT AND THE PATIO USE, SO IT'S JUST RETAIL AND MEDICAL. SO WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO IS SINCE THAT TIME THEY'VE MET WITH THE RESIDENTS OR WITH THEIR MEETINGS, THE BUILDINGS MOVED UP FROM THE REAR 30FT. SO THEY'RE PROVIDING ABOUT 30FT OF LANDSCAPING TO THE REAR. SO WHAT HAS. HOW THAT IMPACTS THE SITE IS BY PUSHING EVERYTHING UP ABOUT 10FT OR SO, 5 OR 10FT.
IS THAT THE FRONT LANDSCAPE STRIP, WHICH IS TYPICALLY 15FT, IS NOW RUNS FROM 9 TO 15FT, AVERAGES ABOUT 12 AND A HALF.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE PARKING RIGHT BEHIND IT. SO WE THINK THIS STILL WORKS. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY IS BECAUSE THERE'S THE PARKWAY OUT FRONT THAT IS FAIRLY LARGE.
SO IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE IT'S BETWEEN 30 AND 40FT BACK FROM THE ROAD, ACTUALLY.
SO THAT IMPACTS NOT ONLY THE PARKING THAT'S THERE, THE LANDSCAPE STRIP, BUT ALSO THE SIGN. BECAUSE NORMALLY THE SIGN HAS TO BE 10FT OFF OF THE PROPERTY LINE. THIS ONE'S ABOUT 6FT.
BUT WHEN YOU ADD IN THE PARKWAY, YOU STILL HAVE A FAIRLY LARGE BUFFER. IF YOU MOVE THAT SIGN 10FT BACK, IT'S BASICALLY HIDDEN BEHIND THE PARKING SPACES, SO YOU WON'T SEE IT. SO SAME AS LAST TIME. TWO DRIVEWAYS ON SANDY LAKE, NO CONNECTION TO ARBOR MANOR'S DRIVE. THE GARBAGE CANS ARE MOVED ABOUT 70FT OFF OF THE BACK PROPERTY LINE.
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WHAT HAS SOME NEW INFORMATION SINCE THAT TIME AND SINCE IT WENT TO COUNCIL, WE DID FORM A. WE HIRED A TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO LOOK AT.STUDY THE TRAFFIC IN AND AROUND THE ARBOR MANOR SUBDIVISION. SO THEY LOOKED AT.
DO YOU WANT TO. DO YOU WANT TO SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT? BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF YOUR THING OR JUST.
SURE, YEAH. WE LOOKED AT THE CONCERNS THE RESIDENTS HAD BROUGHT UP TO US.
WE LOOKED AT THE DELAYS EXITING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE LOOKED AT TRAFFIC SIGNAL WARRANTS FOR ARBOR MANORS INTERSECTION, INTERSECTION OF ARBOR MANORS AND SANDY LAKE ROAD AND ALSO THE INTERSECTION OF BRAEWOOD AND DENTON TAP ROAD. NEITHER OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS MEET SIGNAL WARRANTS EITHER UNDER EXISTING CONDITIONS OR UNDER PROPOSED CONDITIONS. IF THIS DEVELOPMENT WERE TO GO FORWARD, WE HAD TO LOOK AT WHETHER THERE'S WAS ANY EVIDENCE OF CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. JUST BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING AS I MENTIONED AND BASED ON THEIR REVIEW OF BOTH THE TRIP COUNTS AND THEIR FIELD OBSERVATIONS, THEY DIDN'T SEE ANY EVIDENCE OF CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WHAT ELSE DID WE LOOK AT? IT WAS A.
WAS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT TURN RADIUS OR THAT CROSS? SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT MAKING A LEFT HAND TURN GOING EASTBOUND RIGHT BEFORE MANOR THERE AT THE BREAK INTO SPROUTS.
SO NOT WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
THEY DID SHIFT THAT DRIVEWAY FURTHER TO THE WEST SO IT IS NOW AWAY FROM.
I BROUGHT THE SITE PLAN FROM LAST TIME FOR MY OWN EDUCATION.
BUT IF ANYONE WANTS TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY PROPOSED LAST TIME VERSUS WHAT? YEAH, THIS TIME.
SO, THEY MOVED IT 200FT? OH YEAH, THEY SURE DID.
CANNOT TAKE A LEFT OUT OF THERE ANYMORE.
SO, IT'S FURTHER IN THE, IN THE MEDIAN.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE A RIGHT AND THEN YOU MAKE A U TURN, OR YOU CAN. THEY HAVE A CONNECTION WITH THE VERIZON BUILDING.
WERE THE TRAFFIC COUNTS TAKEN BEFORE OR AFTER SCHOOL WERE OUT? IT WAS IN MAY, I BELIEVE I'LL BE BACK TO THE CORONA'S REPORT.
SO I BELIEVE BECAUSE THAT WAS MY THOUGHT, I WAS LIKE DID WE GET THAT BEFORE SCHOOL WAS UP? AND WHAT I RECALL WE DID, BUT LET ME MAKE SURE.
AND THEN YOU MENTIONED FROM OUR MEETING EARLIER THAT THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT A, A FATALITY.
YES, I KNOW SOME OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE MENTIONED TRAFFIC SAFETY, SPECIFICALLY FATALITIES. OUR, OUR CONSULTANT PULLED THE CRASH RECORDS FOR THE AREA FROM WHISPERING HILLS WEST OF THE SITE TO DEN TAP ROAD AND THEN FROM SANDY LAKE DOWN SOUTH TO BACK SCHOOL ROAD FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS.
THERE'S NO FATALITIES WITHIN THAT RANGE, NO SERIOUS INJURIES. THERE ARE OTHER FATALITIES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN TOWN, BUT THEY'RE FARTHER AWAY OUTSIDE OF THE. THE LIMIT OF THE STUDY AREA WE LOOKED AT WITH THIS, NOT ADJACENT TO THIS. AND I DID JUST CONFIRM THAT TRIP COUNTS WERE TAKEN TUESDAY, MAY 12TH OF THIS YEAR.
OKAY, WHAT WAS THE LAST DAY OF SCHOOL? WEEKLY.
SO AFTER THE STAFF PRESENTATION I'LL PROBABLY JUST CALL YOU DOWN AND YOU CAN GIVE THE SUMMARY.
SO THERE'S STILL LIKE A SCREENING WALL AT THE BACK SEPARATING THE TWO PROPERTIES. THEY'RE PLANTING IT. SO WITH THIS NEW LAYOUT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY SAVING ABOUT 55 TREES, PLANTING ANOTHER 31 TREES AND THEN THEY'RE PLANNING ON PLANTING 71 NELLIE R.
STEVEN ALONG THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
SO YOU'RE NOT ONLY GOING TO HAVE THE TREES, YOU'LL HAVE THE NELLIE R.
STEVENS AND THE SCREENING WALL WITHIN THAT 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER AREA.
DIDN'T HE ALSO HAVE A PARAPET WALL ON THE BACK OF THE, THE TOP OF THE BUILDING TO HIDE THE H VAC? I CAN'T RECALL.
WAS THIS PARAPET IN THE FRONT? I KNOW IT'S IN THE FRONT, BUT I CAN'T RECALL IF THERE'S ONE ON THE BACK.
THEY MAY HAVE BEEN WILLING TO ADD ONE.
BUT IF YOU ASK THEM, I'M SURE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD, THEY WOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER.
SO THE BUILDING, NOTHING'S CHANGED FROM WHEN YOU LAST LOOKED AT IT. EXACT SAME LOOK. SAME
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THING WITH THE SIGN OUT FRONT. SO WE DID SEND OUT NOTICES WITHIN THE 200FT AND ADDITIONAL COURTESY NOTICES WITHIN 800FT. SO WE GOT 10 WRITTEN RESPONSES. 10, SORRY, 10 WRITTEN RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION WITHIN 200FT, ONE WRITTEN RESPONSE IN FAVOR. AND THEY WERE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPERTY.SO WHEN YOU SEE THE MAP, YOU'LL SEE IT. AND AT THE COURTESY NOTICES WE RECEIVED TWO WRITTEN RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION AND ONE ADDITIONAL ONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE AN ADDRESS. SO I COULDN'T TELL IF IT WAS 800FT OR MORE OR LESS OR WHATEVER. SO SAME OPPOSITION BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC, LOSS OF THE GREEN SPACE, QUALITY OF LIFE, NOISE TYPE OF THINGS. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS ONE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
DETAILED ENGINEERING REVIEW AT THE TIME OF FULL ENGINEERING. SO MIDDLE TO ALLOW THE LANDSCAPING AS SHOWN ON THE PLANS BECAUSE THAT WAS A P CONDITION TO ALLOW THE MONUMENT SIGN TO BE CONSTRUCTED AS SHOWN.
THE DOWNSTREAM DRAINAGE ANALYSIS WILL NEED TO BE UPDATED TO ADDRESS STAFF COMMENTS AND ANY OTHER SIGNAGE WOULD NEED TO MEET CITY REQUIREMENTS. SO WITH THIS ONE, STAFF WILL DO A PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION THAT THEY WANT TO GIVE AND THEN SOME OF THE RESIDENTS ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT WILL BE WALK YOU THROUGH. SO WE DO HAVE ONE RESIDENT THAT IS GOING TO BE HERE VIA ZOOM. AND SO I THINK HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATION, EITHER HIM, ANT, OR SOME OTHER PEOPLE. SO WE'LL SEE HOW THAT, HOW THAT GOES.
BUT YEAH, SO WE'LL HAVE THREE PRESENTATIONS ON, ON THAT ONE.
BUT WE'LL DO THE STAFF PRESENTATION QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF BY THE COMMISSION, THEN OPEN IT TO THE APPLICANT.
SO IS THE EASEMENT, THE CROSS ASSET EASEMENT SHOWN THAT'S.
IS THAT A PERMANENT EASEMENT? BECAUSE IT HAS TEMPORARY.
BUT IS IT ONLY TEMPORARY FOR CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE? RIGHT.
OKAY, BUT IT'S PERMANENT FOR US.
AND THEN ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS ESSENTIALLY THE REPLAT. SO COMPANION ITEM TO THE SHOPS AT SANDY LAKE. TYPICAL. IT'LL SHOW THE FIRE LANES, WATER EASEMENTS, DRAINAGE, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY NEED TO DO TO BUILD THE BUILDING.
OH, SORRY. ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION? OKAY.
DO YOU WANT TO GO OVER ITEMS FROM CITY COUNCIL? YEAH, SO SORRY, ONE MORE THING. APOLOGIZE. SO ON YOUR CHAIRS OVER THERE, THERE'S THIS. IT'S BASICALLY THE RESPONSES THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT FOR THE, FOR THE CASE. I JUST MAKE COPIES. SO IF YOU GUYS NEED TO.
TO TAKE A LOOK THROUGH IT, YOU CAN.
AND THE FIRST ONE WAS THE ONE RESIDENT IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL, CORRECT? YEAH. DOES HE.
ARE THEY DONE? THEY ARE 200FT. THEY BACK UP TO THIS PROPERTY.
AND WHEN DID THIS ORIGINALLY COME IN FIRST? THE FIRST ONE WE. IT CAME TO LIKE MARCH. YEAH. MARCH, APRIL. MARCH, I THINK MARCH, MARCH, PNZ, APRIL. CITY COUNCIL.
ON THAT MEMORY THE CITY COUNCIL DENIED. WE DENIED IT.
ON WHAT BASIS? SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THOUGHT THAT WE COULD MOVE IT FORWARD A LITTLE BIT.
THEY THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A BUFFER LIKE THEY HAVE NOW AND THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE RESTAURANT. NOW IT'S GONE. SO I THINK A LOT OF THE COUNCIL'S CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. NOW WHAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'LL DO, BUT THAT'S. I REMEMBER THOSE COMMENTS.
YEAH, YEAH. SO COUNCIL WAS THIS LAST TUESDAY. THE ONLY ITEM THAT WENT FROM US WAS THE ORDINANCE FOR THE ST CONSTANTINE SCHOOL WHICH WAS APPROVED.
SO WE WILL HAVE SOMEBODY SIGNED UP FOR CITIZENS APPEARANCE THAT MIGHT HAVE A VERY UNIQUE
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OPINION IF YOU'VE HEARD SOME OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA. SO WE'RE GONNA JUST GIVE THEM THE THREE MINUTES AND MOVE ON WITH NO REACTIONS.TRY TO BAIT US, TRY TO BAIT ANY INDIVIDUAL BY MAYBE COMMENTING ABOUT YOUR APPEARANCE OR MY APPEARANCE OR SOMEONE TO GET SOMEONE TO REACT.
SO THERE'S SOCIAL CLICKS THAT HE'S AFTER. I'VE SEEN HIM IN OTHER CITIES AND SO YEAH, HE'S BEEN BEFORE THE COUNCIL BEFORE THAT.
I THINK THIS FIRST TIME HE'S VISITED US ON THURSDAY.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ANYBODY SPEAK FOR CITIZENS APPEARANCE SINCE WE KIND OF SOMEWHAT SILLY BECAUSE ALMOST EVERYTHING WE DO REQUIRES PUBLIC HEARING ANYHOW. AND CERTAINLY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT STACKS.
SO ANYHOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE HEARD.
AND IS HE A CITIZEN? NO, HE IS NOT. SO IF YOU SAW THE VIDEO FROM HOW HE ABUSED COUNCIL, WHAT, A MONTH AGO? TWO MONTHS AGO.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE. WE ADOPTED SOME RULES TO GOVERN BEHAVIOR AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN HIM SINCE.
NO, BUT WE CAN MAKE THEM. WE COULD GIVE YOU THOSE RULES AND YOU COULD ADOPT THEM BECAUSE YOU. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO ADOPT YOUR OWN RULES.
BUT I WILL READ THE. THE REQUIRE THE THREE MINUTES. AND THERE'S SOMETHING THERE IN THE LAST SENTENCE THERE IT SAYS ABOUT DECORUM'S, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO, YEAH, HOPEFULLY OUR. OUR MUSCLE WILL SHOW UP TONIGHT.
I. I'D ASK MARY AND I ASKED THAT WE HAVE A POLICE OFFICER BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO GET INVOLVED.
IF HE START THERE WAS SOMEBODY OUTSIDE.
IF HE'S STARTING TO MISBEHAVE, THEN EDDIE, CALL ON HIM AND LET THE POLICE OFFICER HANDLE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, . I'LL ADJOURN THE WORK SESSION. WE'LL WRAP UP FOR ENTERTAINMENT AT 6:30. OKAY.
[3. Regular Session (Open to the Public)]
GOOD EVENING. IT IS NOW 6:30 AND THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION IS CONVENING BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS ON THE AGENDA ITEM FOUR IS CITIZENS APPEARANCE. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK FOR ANY ITEM ON ANY ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA? SEEING NONE, I WILL MOVE ON. ON THE AGENDA[5. 2026-0284 Consider approval of the May 21, 2026 Planning and Zoning meeting minutes.]
TO ITEM 5. ITEM 5 IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF OUR MINUTES, THE MINUTES OF OUR MAY 21 MEETING. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSION OR IS THERE A MOTION BY THE COMMISSION? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF MAY 21, 2026 PLANNING.WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MAHER. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BLANKENSHIP. KAMI, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? PLEASE RESPOND BY SAYING I AND I CALL YOUR NAME. VICE CHAIR BLANKENSHIP. AYE. CHAIRMAN HAAS? AYE.
FOR THOSE THAT ARE HERE, WE DO HAVE ONE OF OUR COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT REMOTE SO. AND WE ALSO HAVE SOMEONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK REMOTE ALSO. SO. ITEM
[6. 2026-0285 Consider approval of Ready Mix Addition Lot 1, Block A, Minor Plat to plat the property and associated easements with a variance to the required public street frontage and the required public utilities extended to the site on 4.47 acres of property located on the north side of East Belt Line Road north of the DART right of way, approximately 1,200 feet west of the City limit line, at the request of Steve Maglisceau, Estrada Ready Mix Concrete, LLC. STAFF REP.: Matthew Steer]
6 ON THE AGENDA IS AGENDA IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF. READY MIX EDITION ONE. I'M SORRY.EDITION LOT ONE BLOCK. A MINOR PLAT TO PLAT THE PROPERTY AND ASSOCIATED EASEMENTS WITH A VARIANCE TO THE REQUIRED PUBLIC STREET FRONTAGE AND THE REQUIRED PUBLIC UTILITIES EXTENDED TO THE SITE ON 4.47 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST BELTLINE ROAD, NORTH OF THE DART RIGHT OF WAY APPROXIMATELY 1200FT WEST OF THE CITY LIMIT LINE.
AT THE REQUEST OF STEVE MAGLIESCU. OKAY, CLOSE.
MIXED CONCRETE. WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION BY MR. MATT STEER.
MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A REQUEST TO PLAT THE PROPERTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF OBTAINING A BUILDING PERMIT FOR A TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT TO BE IN OPERATION FOR LESS THAN SIX MONTHS. A TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT WITHIN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT PROVIDED IT'S NOT AN OPERATION FOR GREATER THAN 180 DAYS OR SIX MONTHS. FOR REFERENCE, THE ONE THAT WAS RECENTLY DENIED WAS FOR A BATCH PLANT THAT WAS GREATER THAN SIX MONTHS. THEY WERE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR A FIVE YEAR BATCH PLANT.
BECAUSE THIS IS FOR A TEMPORARY USE, A SITE PLAN AND REPLAT WILL BE REQUIRED FOR A PERMANENT USE.
WHEN PERMANENT USE IS APPLIED FOR AT THAT TIME, A 24 FOOT FIRE LANE AND MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT AND A WATERLINE EASEMENT WILL BE REQUIRED
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FOR ACCESSING UTILITIES, RESPECTIVELY. THE APPLICANT HAS NOTED THIS ON THE PLAT. THE CURRENT EASEMENTS ARE ON THE SITE ARE A 20 FOOT INGRESS AND EGRESS EASEMENT THAT LEADS FROM VOLLEY DRIVE TO THE SITE. THERE'S A 40 FOOT LONE STAR AND GAS EASEMENT AND A 20 FOOT TRA EASEMENT. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE MINOR PLAT WITH THE EXCEPTION TO THE PUBLIC ROAD FRONTAGE REQUIREMENT AND THE UTILITY EXTENSION REQUIREMENT. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BY THE COMMISSION? OKAY.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO PRESENT THE CASE? GOOD EVENING.
FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS PHIL FLINK, 650 SKYLINE, HUTCHINS, TEXAS.
AND STEVE MCGLISCO, 928 FALCON LANE, CAPELL.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION? JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW WHERE WE'VE BEEN FOR YOU, IN FRONT OF YOU BEFORE AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
SO WITH THIS TEMPORARY PERMIT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE WRAPPING UP OPERATIONS IN SIX MONTHS. WHAT DOES THAT WHOLE SHUTDOWN PROCESS LOOKS LIKE? RIGHT.
AT SIX MONTHS YOU'RE STARTUP AND I SHUT.
YEAH. SO I GUESS TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, THE CURRENT PROJECT THAT WE HAVE IN MIND FOR, FOR THE USE OF THE PLANT HAS A SIX MONTH TIME FRAME BASED OFF ACTUAL WORKING DAYS THAT WE'VE DONE THIS PROJECT FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE YEARS.
WE'VE HIT OUR NUMBERS DATES FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS BASED OFF CURRENT PROJECTIONS. LAST MONTH WAS OUR FIRST MONTH OPERATING THE PROJECT. WE'RE RIGHT ON WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
SO A SHUTDOWN OF THE PROJECT WOULD SIMPLY BE.
I'LL CALL IT THE SUNSET PORTION OF THE PROJECT. PROJECT TOWARDS SIX MONTHS. WE CAN LITERALLY SHUT DOWN IN TWO DAYS.
OPERATIONS IN RESTORATION. I UNDERSTAND THE REQUIREMENTS ARE RESTORATION OF THE PROPERTY TO ITS ORIGINAL.
PART OF THE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS WILL BE A EXPIRATION DATE OF SIX MONTHS AND THEN A RECLAMATION DATE 30 DAYS AFTER THAT, SIX MONTHS TO RESTORE THE SITE TO THE PREVIOUS CONDITIONS.
AND FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE A 10 YEAR LONG TERM LEASE ON THE PROPERTY. SO IT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO PUT IT BACK IN THE ORIGINAL CONDITION FOR OUR OWN BENEFIT.
AND IT'S YOUR INTENT REALLY FOR JUST ONE AND DONE THIS ONE, SIX MONTHS FOR THIS PROJECT? YES. NOW, TO BE CLEAR, IF THE CITY OF CAPELL WOULD HAVE A PROJECT COME ONLINE THAT WOULD REQUIRE A PLANT, WE WOULD CONSIDER IT.
BUT I MEAN, THIS IS FOR THIS PROJECT.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT VIA THE COMMISSION? ANY FINAL COMMENTS? STAFF? JUST.
JUST FOR A HEADS UP, WE DO PLAN ON BRINGING FORWARD A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR ONE BATCH PLANT EVERY FIVE YEARS. ONE TEMPORARY BATCH PLAN EVERY FIVE YEARS.
OKAY, MATT, IS. WOULD IT BE AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO ADD AN ACTION PLAN FOR.
OKAY, NO, IT'S. THIS IS JUST A PLAT. SO IT'S NOT A ZONING ACTION.
IN TERMS OF THE TEXT AMENDMENT, WOULD THAT APPLY? AND SINCE YOU'RE DOING THAT AFTER, WOULD THAT APPLY TO THIS? YES, SIR. YES. SO ALL ZONING WOULD APPLY TO THIS PROPERTY.
OKAY. OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BEST OF LUCK IN THE OPERATION THERE. AND FOR THE TEMPORARY PERMIT.
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY FINAL DISCUSSION OR MOTION BY THE COMMISSION? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. I MOVE TO APPROVE READY MIXED EDITION LOT ONE BLOCK A MINOR PLATFORM.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MARR.
IT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HAFEMANN. KAMMI, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? PLEASE RESPOND BY SAYING AYE AND AYES. I CALL YOUR NAME.
[7. 2026-0286 PUBLIC HEARING: Consider approval of PD- 214R11-C, The Shops at Sandy Lake, a zoning change request from PD-214R2-C to PD-214R11-C, to allow for the Detail Planned Development of a 14,480 square foot commercial center with retail and medical uses, on approximately 2.03 acres located at the south side of Sandy Lake Road, approximately 560-ft west of Denton Tap Road, at the request of Peak Coppell, LLC., being represented by D.R. Rankin, PLLC. STAFF REP.: Mary Paron-Boswell]
OKAY. ITEM SEVEN ON THE AGENDA IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PD214R11C. THE SHOPS AT SANDY LAKE HAS ONLY CHANGE REQUEST FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 214R 2C TO PD 214R 11C[00:30:01]
TO ALLOW A DETAILED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OF A 14,480 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL CENTER WITH RETAIL AND MEDICAL USES ON APPROXIMATELY 2.03 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTH SIDE OF SANDY LAKE ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 560FT WEST OF DENTON TAP ROAD.AT THE REQUEST OF PEAK COPPELL LLC, IN BEING REPRESENTED BY DR. RANKIN, WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION BY MS. MARY PERRONE BOSWELL.
MARY GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. SO THIS PROPERTY. WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF A LARGER 29 ACRE TRACT DEVELOPMENT THAT INCLUDED RESIDENTIAL, THE DEVELOPMENT OF ARBOR MANORS AND ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES BOTH ALONG DENTON TAP AND SANDY LAKE ROADS. THE ORIGINAL ZONING FOR THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED IN 2007 WITH SUBSEQUENT REZONINGS OCCURRING WITHIN EACH NEW DETAILED SITE PLAN FOR THE COMMERCIAL SITES. THIS REPRESENTS THE FINAL COMMERCIAL PIECE TO BE DEVELOPED. A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS SITE WHICH INCLUDED RETAIL, MEDICAL AND RESTAURANT USES WITH A PATIO AREA WAS DENIED IN APRIL OF 2026. SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE UP ON THE SCREEN IS PART OF, ON THE LEFT IS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PD AND ON THE RIGHT IS WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY PROPOSING. SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENCES AND WHAT'S CHANGED FROM THE ORIGINAL PD.
SO THE ORIGINAL PD SHOWS TWO BUILDINGS OUT FRONT ADJACENT TO SANDY LAKE VERSUS THE CURRENT PROPOSAL WITH ONE BUILDING AT THE REAR OF THE SITE. THE ORIGINAL PD SHOWS PARKING AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY VERSUS THE CURRENT PROPOSAL HAS THE MAJORITY OF PARKING OUT FRONT WITH SOME AT THE SIDES. THE ORIGINAL PD SHOWS TWO DRIVEWAY ENTRANCES OFF OF SANDY LAKE AT THE WESTERN EDGE AND A SHARED DRIVEWAY OUT TO ARBOR MANDERS DRIVE. THE CURRENT PROPOSAL ALSO HAS TWO DRIVEWAYS ALONG SANDY LAKE, ONE SHARED WITH THE VERIZON LOT ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE SECOND IS APPROXIMATELY 200FT WEST FROM THE ARBOR MANORS DRIVE AND JUST WEST OF THE TURN LANE WITHIN THE MEDIAN OF SANDY LAKE ROAD. THERE IS NO SHARED DRIVEWAY CONNECTION TO THE RESIDENTIAL VIA ARBOR MANORS DRIVE. SO THE SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT. AND THE SITE PLAN SHOWS A PROPOSED 14,480 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT WILL CONTAIN A MIX OF RETAIL AND MEDICAL USES ACCESSED BY TWO DRIVEWAYS ALONG SANDY LAKE ROAD. THERE ARE TWO TRASH RECEPTACLES PROPOSED ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE SITUATED APPROXIMATELY 70FT AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCES. THERE'S AN EXISTING 6 FOOT IN HEIGHT BRICK SCREENING WALL BETWEEN THE PROPERTY AND THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH. SO WITH THIS PROPOSAL THE BUILDING IS SET BACK 30FT FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE, ALLOWING FOR AN EXTENDED REAR LANDSCAPE BUFFER. 30FT IN LIEU OF THE 10 FOOT THAT IS THAT IS REALLY ONLY REQUIRED. BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS, THE DEVELOPER INCREASED THE REAR YARD LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND BUILDING SETBACK WHERE TYPICALLY THE BUILDING SETBACK IS 20FT. NOW THE BUILDING'S 30FT OFF OF THE REAR SETBACK.
IN THE TIME SINCE THE PREVIOUS SUBMITTAL WAS MADE FOR THIS PROPERTY, THE CITY ENGAGED TRAFFIC ENGINEERING CONSULTANT TO STUDY THE TRAFFIC IN AND AROUND THE ARBOR MANOR SUBDIVISION PER COUNCIL DIRECTION AND IN RESPONSE TO RESIDENTS CONCERNS REGARDING TRAFFIC CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IN PARTICULAR, THE STUDY EXAMINED DELAYS AND EXITING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, POTENTIAL CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE IMPACT OF POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE VACANT ARBOR MANOR'S COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. THE STUDY DID NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC USING THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS TO BYPASS THE INTERSECTION OF SANDY LAKE ROAD AND DENTON TAP ROAD AND THE STUDY DID NOT RECOMMEND INSTALLING A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION OF DENTON TAP BRAYWOOD DRIVE.
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PHASE TWO OF THE STUDY LOOKING AT A WARRANT ANALYSIS FOR THE INTERSECTION ARBOR MANOR'S DRIVE AND SANDY LAKE ROAD AND THE IMPACT OF POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT HAS NOT WAS NOT FINALIZED AT THE TIME OF STAFF REPORT WRITING. I BELIEVE LATER MR. COLBAKER WILL BE GIVING US AN UPDATE ON THAT STUDY. SO HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. BASED ON THE FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS, THE DEVELOPER INCREASED THE REAR YARD LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND BUILDING SETBACK IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THIS INCREASED LANDSCAPE AT THE REAR AND MAINTAIN THE PARKING COUNT.THERE IS A PROPOSED PD CONDITION TO ALLOW THE FRONT YARD LANDSCAPE AS SHOWN. THIS RANGES FROM 9FT TO 15FT AND AVERAGES APPROXIMATELY 12 AND A HALF FEET IN DEPTH WITH PARKING ABUTTING IT VERSUS THE REQUIRED 15FT. THE PARKWAY ALONG SANDY LAKE BOULEVARD IS APPROXIMATELY 24FT IN DEPTH, SO THE LANDSCAPING OUT FRONT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 30 TO 43FT WHEN YOU INCLUDE THE PARKWAY. SO STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST.
AGAIN, THERE IS AN ENHANCED LANDSCAPE BUFFER AT THE REAR OF THE SITE WHERE NORMALLY ONLY 10FT IS REQUIRED. THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING MORE WITH THE BUILDING BEING 30FT FROM THE SOUTHERN PERIMETER, THE EASTERN PERIMETER WILL SEE LARGE NUMBER OF TREES BEING PRESERVED.
ADDITIONAL TREES ALONG THE SOUTHERN PERIMETER WILL ALSO BE PRESERVED. IN TOTAL WE HAVE 55 EXISTING TREES THAT WILL BE SAVED ON SITE, AN ADDITIONAL 31 OVERSTORY TREES TO BE PLANTED ON SITE. THEN IF YOU LOOK TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, 71 NELLIE R.
STEVENS WILL BE PLANTED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SCREENING ALONG THE SOUTHERN PERIMETER.
BUILDING HEIGHT IS JUST UNDER 19FT WITH A PARAPET WALL AT THE FRONT VARYING IN HEIGHT FROM APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 25FT CREATING SOME ARTICULATION.
THE TRASH ENCLOSURES MATERIAL WILL MATCH THE BUILDING MATERIAL AS WELL. SO THE BUILDING WILL BE A COMBINATION OF BRICK ALUMINUM STOREFRONT WITH A DARK BRONZE METAL FASCIA AND TRIM. THE LOWER PART OF THE BUILDING CONTAINS A LIGHT COLORED BRICK AND DARKER COLORED BRICK ABOVE THE WATER TABLE. THERE IS NO DRIVE THROUGH PROPOSED. A MONUMENT SIGN IS PROPOSED ALONG SANDY LAKE ROAD. THE SIGN WE USE THE SAME DARKER BRICK AS THE BUILDING AND BE 6FT IN HEIGHT, 6FT IN WIDTH WITH EXTERNAL ILLUMINATION. SO THE MONUMENT SIGN ALONG SANDY LAKE ROAD WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 6FT INSTEAD OF 10FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE IN ORDER TO NOT BE COVERED UP FROM THE PARKING SPACES. AND THIS IS ALL DUE TO THE REDUCED LANDSCAPE ALONG THE FRONT. HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE PARKWAY, WHICH IS 24FT IN DEPTH, THE SIGN WILL BE AT LEAST 30FT FROM THE ROAD. SO STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST EITHER. THERE IS NO OTHER SIGNAGE PRESENTED FOR THE BUILDING. ANY PROPOSED SIGNAGE WILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH CITY REQUIREMENTS. SO BECAUSE THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, WE DID SEND OUT NOTICES. 26 WITHIN 200FT, AN ADDITIONAL 115 WITHIN 800FT. AND WE DID RECEIVE 10 WRITTEN RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION WITHIN THE 200FT. WE DID RECEIVE ONE WRITTEN RESPONSE IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST WITHIN THE 200FT. SO THE RED OUTLINES THE OPPOSITION AND THE GREEN OUTLINES THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE 115 COURTESY NOTICES.
WE RECEIVED TWO WRITTEN RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION OF. WE RECEIVED ONE OTHER WRITTEN RESPONSE THAT WE COULDN'T TELL WHERE THEY WERE LOCATED BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ADDRESS ON THE FORM THAT WE RECEIVED.
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SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF PD214R11C SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.ONE, THE DETAILED ENGINEERING REVIEW WILL OCCUR AT THE TIME OF FULL ENGINEERING SUBMITTAL.
TWO, TO ALLOW FOR THE LANDSCAPING AS SHOWN ON THE PLANS. THREE, TO ALLOW FOR THE MONUMENT SIGN TO BE CONSTRUCTED AS SHOWN ON THE PLANS. FOUR, THAT THE DOWNSTREAM DRAINAGE ANALYSIS WILL NEED TO BE UPDATED TO ADDRESS STAFF CONCERNS OR COMMENTS RATHER. AND FIVE, THAT ALL OTHER SIGNAGE WILL MEET CITY REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT IS THE END OF MY FORMAL PRESENTATION, I THINK. MR. COLE BAKER IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
COLE, IF YOU COULD COME DOWN TO PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF THE ANALYSIS AS WELL AS IF YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THE RESULTS OF THE ANALYSIS.
SO WE, AT THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, WE COMMISSIONED A TRAFFIC STUDY BY ONE OF OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS. THEY LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC IN AND AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED BY THE RESIDENTS AS WELL AS THEY LOOKED AT WHAT THE IMPACT OF A POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THIS LOCATION WAS. ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WAS RAISED WAS CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE CONSULTANT LOOKED AT THIS AND THEY DIDN'T FIND ANY EVIDENCE OF SIGNIFICANT CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THEY LOOKED AT.
THEY LOOKED AT THE CRASH HISTORY FOR THE AREA SURROUNDING THE ARBOR MANORS DEVELOPMENT. AND IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS THERE HAVE BEEN NO FATAL OR SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES WITHIN THE VICINITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY LOOKED FROM WHISPERING HILLS TO DENTON TAP ROAD AND THEN FROM SANDY LAKE ROAD DOWN TO BETHEL SCHOOL ROAD. AND SO THEY LOOKED AT THOSE TRAFFIC NUMBERS. THEY ALSO LOOKED AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF BRAEWOOD AND DENTON TAP AND OF ARBOR MANORS DRIVE AND SANDY LAKE ROAD AND DIDN'T FOUND THAT UNDER EXISTING AND PROPOSED CONDITIONS, NEITHER OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS MEETS THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WARRANTS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE MET TO INSTALL A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT EITHER OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS. AND THEN THEY ALSO, THEY LOOKED AT THE IMPACT OF A POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THIS SITE. THERE WOULD BE SOME INCREASE IN DELAYS IN THE ADJACENT INTERSECTIONS.
THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DELAYS, THE ARBOR MANORS DRIVE NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC WAS DUE TO THEIR ASSUMPTION THAT SOME TRAFFIC FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO USE THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE DELAYS WERE COMING FROM WHEN THEY WERE STUDYING THAT.
SO YEAH, THAT'S. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
AND THE. AND THE ANALYSIS WAS BASE PLUS SITE. YES, BASE PLUS SITE. OKAY. AND THEN THE CRASH DATA THAT THEY REVIEWED WAS FROM THE TX CHRIS DATA, THE PUBLIC DATA.
AND THE TRAFFIC COUNTS WERE TAKEN WHEN? BEGINNING OF MAY, WHICH IS BEFORE.
BEFORE SCHOOL WAS OUT? YES. PERFECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WITH MR. BAKER WHILE HE'S HERE? AND THEN WAS THE. THE. THE DELAY IN TRAFFIC GOING NORTH, WAS THAT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE CURRENT SITE PLAN AND THE.
THE OR THE WITH WITHOUT AN ACCESS WAY? YES.
SO IT WAS ASSUMING THERE WOULDN'T BE DIRECT ACCESS ONTO ARBOR MANORS DRIVE. THEY ACTUALLY WE HAD INITIALLY SENT THEM THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN THAT HAD MORE INTENSE USE. AND SO THIS WAS ACTUALLY A MORE CONSERVATIVE ANALYSIS THAN WHAT IS NOW BEFORE THE COMMISSION.
BUT YES, THAT IT IS THE SAME PROPOSAL WITH THE DRIVEWAY GOING ON TO SANDY LAKE ROAD INSTEAD OF DIRECTLY ONTO ARBOR MANORS.
REGARDING THE TAX ACCIDENT DATA, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THERE WOULD BE AN ACCIDENT OR COULD HAVE BEEN AN ACCIDENT NOT REPORTED IN THE DATA.
WHERE ANY OF THE STATE. YOU SAID YES. WHERE THE. ANY OF THE ACCIDENTS. THERE'S. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATABASE, THERE'S A NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS AROUND TOWN THAT GET SUBMITTED TO THE AREA. THERE HAVE BEEN ACCIDENTS IN THE VICINITY OF THIS PROJECT. NONE OF THEM WERE. THEY WERE ALL NO INJURY. SUSPECTED INJURY, SUSPECTED MINOR INJURY. NONE OF THEM WERE MAJOR OR FATAL FOR.
SO HOW DOES THAT ACTUALLY WORK? A POLICEMAN SHOWS UP IF THERE'S A MAJOR ACCIDENT PRESUMABLY THAT I'M NOT A POLICEMAN, SO I DON'T KNOW.
YEAH, YEAH, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE.
I MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK BETTER TO THAT.
IF THEY'RE CALLED AND DISPATCHED, THEN IT PRODUCES AN INCIDENT OR ACCIDENT REPORT.
AND THAT'S FOR REPORTING PURPOSES. IT GOES THE STATE. WE GET IN THE STATE DATABASE. AND THEN. SO IF WE HAVE A SERIOUS
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ACCIDENT WHERE POLICE DEPARTMENT GETS DISPATCHED AND OUR EMS GETS DISPATCHED, IT'S GOING TO GET REPORTED BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT THOSE REPORTS. AND THEN THAT FORMS THE BASIS OF WHAT WAS REFERRED TO BY COLE AND BY MR. HAAS.AND THEN THE. THE FINAL QUESTION I HAVE IS THE TRIP GENERATION. IF IN THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS OF THE SHOPPING CENTERS, LESS THAN 40,000 SQUARE FEET.
OKAY. SO THAT HAS A HIGHER TRIP GENERATION RATE THAN THE 720.
OKAY, VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. BAKER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COLE.
ANY QUESTIONS OF MARY AND THE OVERALL APPLICATION TO STAFF? YES, MARY, IN TERMS OF THE DOWNSTREAM DRAINAGE AND ANALYSIS, CAN YOU TALK MORE ABOUT WHAT THE CONCERN IS AROUND THAT? MR. BAKER WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
WE HAD SOME MINOR COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT. WE HONESTLY.
WE HAVEN'T REVISITED THAT SINCE THEIR INITIAL APPLICATION. WE DON'T HAVE CONCERNS THAT IT WILL BE ABLE TO BE RESOLVED.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT DURING DETAILED ENGINEERING REVIEW.
THAT'S WHERE WE TYPICALLY LOOK AT ALL THE DETAILS OF DETAILED ENGINEERING DESIGN.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I ASSUME. I WAS JUST INTERESTED WHY IT WAS CALLED OUT.
SO THAT'S BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY FOR.
AND FINAL QUESTION FOR ME, MARY, REGARDING THE THIS UPDATED SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
TAKE IT. CONSIDER SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE PREVIOUS ONE. SO IT'S BETTER THAN THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION.
IT DEFINITELY ADDRESSED SOME OF THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS REGARDING LANDSCAPING ACCESS, MOVING THE DRIVEWAY FURTHER WEST, CREATING A GREATER LANDSCAPE BUFFER, PRESERVING MORE TREES. IT REMOVED THE RESTAURANT USE, WHICH THEY SEEM TO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IN THE PATIO. SO I THINK A LOT OF THEIR ISSUES WERE. HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED WITH THIS PROPOSAL.
OKAY, VERY GOOD. ANY FINAL QUESTIONS OF STAFF BY THE COMMISSION? OKAY.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO PRESENT THE CASE? WE COULD GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
TYLER ALLEY, 952 BASS'S PLACE, DALLAS, TEXAS. AND I GOT SOME SLIDES TO HELP GUIDE THIS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THEM OR NOT, BUT.
OKAY, GOT IT. SO WE'RE ROSLY PARTNERS. WE'RE RETAIL DEVELOPERS HERE IN DFW. WE WORK ON A LOT OF PROJECTS LIKE THIS THROUGHOUT DFW, WE'RE OFTEN NEXT TO RESIDENTS AND SO WE ARE OFTEN DEALING WITH CONCERNS LIKE THIS. SO WHAT I'M GOING TO PRESENT TODAY IS KIND OF JUST AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY COMPARED TO OUR LAST SITE PLAN, HOW WE INCORPORATED SOME OF THE FEEDBACK INTO IT. AND YEAH, SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THESE ARE THE PROJECTS. THIS IS JUST WHO WE, THE TYPE OF PROJECTS WE DO. THEY'RE YOUR NORMAL RETAIL CENTERS, ALL MASONRY, STRUCTURAL STEEL, STOREFRONT GLASS. SO WE TRY TO USE THE HIGHEST END MATERIALS WE CAN. NEXT SLIDE. I'M SURE YOU GUYS ALL KNOW THE LOCATION AT THIS POINT. WE CAN GO NEXT, MARY. SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT SITE PLAN. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ADJUSTMENTS TO THIS OVER TIME. I'M GOING TO TRY TO CATCH SOME OF THE MAJOR STUFF AS WE GO THROUGH IT. BUT THE BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED IS LAST TIME WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE HAD THE PNZ MEETING AND SO WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK AT THAT POINT WE INCORPORATED IT AND THEN WE WENT TO CITY COUNCIL, GOT THE, AT CITY COUNCIL. THE FIRST TIME WE WERE THERE IT GOT TABLED AND THEN WE MET WITH THE RESIDENTS TO GO OVER THE SITE PLAN AND GET THEIR CONCERNS AND TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THEM. WE ADDRESSED SOME OF THEM, NOT ALL OF THEM. AND THEN IT FAILED AT CITY COUNCIL, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS MORE OF THE CONCERNS. PART OF THE PROBLEM LAST TIME IS WHEN WE MET WITH, BETWEEN THE TIME WE MET WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THE FINAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THERE WAS ONLY LIKE FOUR DAYS AND SO WE COULDN'T ACTUALLY UPDATE OUR SITE PLAN IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THE COUPLE THE THINGS THAT WE DID AT THE VERY BEGINNING WAS WE GOT ACCESS TO THE WEST THERE.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE MAIN, YOU KNOW, TO THE MEETING WOULD BE THE MAIN ACCESS POINT FOR THE PROJECT. AND WE DIDN'T CONNECT TO ARBOR MANORS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN FROM THE PDF, IT HAD THEM GOING, CONNECTING DIRECTLY TO ARBOR MANOR DRIVE.
BUT WE WERE ABLE TO POSITION THE PROJECT WITHOUT THAT NEXT SLIDE. AND SO THIS IS THE CURRENT LANDSCAPE PLAN. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO
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IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY THERE ARE ZERO TREES THAT ARE REQUIRED. WE HAVE 71 TREES ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY UP AGAINST THE WALL THERE. AND WE DISCUSSED MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF. PART OF THE FEEDBACK WAS WHAT TYPE OF TREE TO PUT THERE. AND SO WE'RE FLEXIBLE ON THAT IN ORDER TO MEET THE NEIGHBORS NEEDS.BUT THOSE, THE 71 TREES ARE NOT REQUIRED BY CODE.
BUT THOSE ARE PART OF WHAT WE'VE DONE TO HELP MAKE THIS MORE ACCEPTABLE TO THE NEIGHBORS.
THIS HAS KIND OF GROWN OVER TIME, BUT EVERY, EVERY ITERATION OF THIS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SAVE MORE TREES. AND SO NOW WE'RE AT 50 PLUS. I THINK IT'S LIKE 55, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO MISCOUNT SO I JUST SAID 50 PLUS. AND PART OF THE REASON THAT WE WERE AT 50 PLUS NOW IS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO. AND AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS REQUESTS. WE WERE ABLE TO PUSH THE BUILDING NOT, NOT TO THE FRONT WHERE IT'S FLIPPED IN THE ROADS ON THE BACK, BUT WE PUSH IT FLAT FORWARD.
AND SO INSTEAD OF HAVING A 20 FOOT BUFFER, WE HAVE A 30 FOOT BUFFER. AND THAT ALLOWS US TO SAVE MORE TREES IN THE BACK. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT, THE PROBLEM IS IN ORDER TO DO THAT WE HAD TO MINIMIZE THE LANDSCAPE AREA UP FRONT, WHICH IS WHY THE VARIANCE IS REQUIRED. SO THE VARIANCE ISN'T. IS THE PURPOSE.
THE VARIANCE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, IS ACTUALLY TO SUPPORT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY TO ALLOW US TO MOVE THAT BUILDING AS FAR AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTS AS POSSIBLE.
KEEP GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO YEAH, SO WE MET WITH. SO APRIL 26TH WAS WHEN WE HAD LIKE THE MEDIAN PERSON WITH 10 OF THE RESIDENTS. SO THEY GAVE ME A LIST OF ITEMS. THEN I WILL SAY THAT THEY, AT THE TIME THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO. THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY COULD BE FULLY AGAINST THE PROJECT. SO THEY WERE GIVING ME A LIST OF WHAT WOULD MAKE THE PROJECT IDEAL FOR THEM TODAY. I'M SURE WHAT THEY'LL SAY IS THAT THEY DON'T WANT IT AT ALL. AND SO JUST EVEN WITH THE LIST.
WHICH I THINK IS A FAIR OPINION, BUT THAT'S THAT. BUT I'M STILL USING THEIR LIST JUST BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO.
TO GO BASED OFF THAT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THESE WERE THE 10 REQUESTS AT THE TIME.
INCREASED SETBACK, BUILDING PLACEMENT, BUILDING FIRM. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE AND JUST SAY WHERE WE WERE PREVIOUSLY, WHAT THE, WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
SO YOU GO NEXT SLIDE. SO INCREASED SETBACK. SO WE WERE PREVIOUSLY AT 20FT. THEY ASKED FOR 40. THEY ASKED 30 IS THE BEST THAT WE COULD DO WITH THE. I MEAN LIKE AT SOME POINT WE JUST. THE TURN RADIUSES FOR FIRE JUST DON'T WORK. BUT FROM THIS WAS THE BEST THAT WE COULD PUSH THE BUILDING FORWARD. IT HELPS THAT THE OUTSIDE OUR PROPERTY LINE, THERE'S ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY LINE SO IT WON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S LESS BUFFER THAN NORMAL UP FRONT.
IT'S JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THAT RIGHT AWAY LANDSCAPING.
SO WE'RE AT NEXT ONE. THIS IS KIND OF THE SAME THING. THEY JUST WANTED TO MOVE BUILDING MORE TOWARDS THE FRONT. AND SO THIS IS THE. WE WERE AT 20, THEY ASKED FOR 40, WE GOT TO 30 WAS THE MOST WE COULD GET TO FOR FIRE PURPOSES.
REDUCED BUILDING PERMIT. THIS IS THE ONE THING THAT WE JUST COULDN'T DO BECAUSE IT JUST ECONOMICALLY WOULD MAKE THE PROJECT UNVIABLE.
SO THIS. PREVIOUSLY WE WERE ASKING FOR RESTAURANTS, AND SO. AND THAT WAS LIKE A REZONING FOR RESTAURANTS. WE WERE NO LONGER ASKING FOR RESTAURANTS.
I THINK THAT WAS. THAT'S PROBABLY THE KEY. THE KEY DIFFERENCE AND I THINK IS. WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS. SO WE'RE AT ZERO RESTAURANTS. WE HAVE THIS AS RETAIL AND MEDICAL NOW.
AND SO LIKE WE ENVISION IT TO BE DENTIST, FITNESS PLACES, NAIL SALONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT NO, NO RESTAURANTS BRINGS, YOU KNOW, LATER HOURS AND SMELLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I THINK THAT WAS. THAT WAS THE PRIMARY CONCERN. THAT PLUS, PLUS OBVIOUSLY MORE TRAFFIC NOW BECAUSE OF THE.
SO WE WON'T HAVE ANY. ANY RESTAURANTS. SO THAT. THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGER CHANGES FROM.
FROM THE LAST TIME I WENT SCHOOL TO CITY COUNCIL. NEXT SLIDE. WITH NO RESTAURANTS COMES NO PATIOS. SO THAT WAS.
THOSE TWO GO HAND IN HAND. NO DRIVE THROUGHS. WE NEVER HAD DRIVE THROUGHS. AND WITH THIS SITE PLAN, YOU'LL NEVER HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH. SO THAT WE. WE'VE LEARNED DRIVE THROUGHS DON'T REALLY WORK NEXT TO RESIDENTS. THE NOISE, THE LIGHTS. SO WE DIDN'T EVEN ATTEMPT THAT AT ANY POINT IN THIS PROCESS. NEXT SLIDE.
WE ORIGINALLY PUT THE EASTERN.
WE FRANKLY DIDN'T CARE TOO MUCH ABOUT WHERE THE CURB CUT WAS.
IT WAS TO THE EAST, MOSTLY FOR FIRE PURPOSES BECAUSE IT ALLOWED FOR. IT ALLOWED THE TRUCK TO GET MORE FIRE COVERAGE BASED ON WHERE IT CAN GO IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY. FIRE WAS WILLING TO WORK WITH US AFTER THE LAST ROUND TO MOVE THAT CURB CUT WEST. SO WHERE THE RED CIRCLE IS WHERE IT WAS PREVIOUSLY, NOW WHERE IT IS IN THE MIDDLE IS OBVIOUSLY WHERE IT IS NOW.
AND SO THAT GETS. THAT CREATES MORE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE ARBOR MANORS DRIVE AND WHERE
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THE CURB CUT CURRENTLY IS. SO NO CONNECTION TO ARBOR MANORS. WE ACTUALLY CAN'T EVEN DO THAT IF WE WANTED TO BECAUSE WE DON'T OWN THAT STRIP OF GRASS BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY LINE AND THE DRIVE. SO WE HAVE.THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL ALWAYS HAVE FULL CONTROL OVER THAT ACCESS POINT, AND THAT WON'T BE ABLE TO CHANGE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE WALL HEIGHT. SO THIS IS ONE WHERE THE. WE WERE WILLING TO PROVIDE $25,000 TO THE HOA. ULTIMATELY THE WALL IS ON THEIR PROPERTY AND WE DON'T.
AND SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS MORE APPROPRIATE TO PROVIDE FUNDING INSTEAD OF DOING ANY OF THE WORK OURSELVES. WORTH NOTING THAT WE DO HAVE THOSE 71 TREES IN THE BACK. THEY'LL TAKE A FEW YEARS TO GROW, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IMMEDIATE. BUT THAT WE THOUGHT THE TREES WERE A MORE APPROPRIATE SOLUTION THAN THE, THAN EXPANDING THE WALL.
BUT WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE $25,000 FOR THAT. NEXT SLIDE.
TENANT RESTRICTIONS. SO THE PREVIOUS DESIGN WE WERE LIMITED RETAIL, RESTAURANTS, MEDICAL.
THERE WAS JUST LIKE THIS WAS LIKE A GENERAL CONCEPT OF RESTRICTING ON THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES. SO WE'VE LIMITED THIS TO RETAIL AND MEDICAL BUT WE. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS BUT THERE ARE WHAT THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS IT MIGHT JUST BE YOU COULD DO USE RESTRICTIONS SEPARATELY THROUGH A SEPARATE INSTRUMENT ON THE PROJECT. BUT LIKE WE NEVER LEASE TO LIKE SMOKE SHOPS OR TATTOO PLACE OR THINGS LIKE THAT ANYWAYS. SO LIKE WE'RE PERFECTLY HAPPY TO RESTRICT THE NEGATIVE USES.
THIS IS A EXPENSIVE BUILDING AND WE CAN'T, THEY CAN'T PAY THOSE RENTS ANYWAY. SO WE WILL ONLY REALLY THE HIGH END, HIGH END TENANTS CAN, CAN. CAN WORK HERE. NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF LIKE A, A RECAP. SO THE ONES IN BLUE ARE THE ONES WHERE WE FELT WE COMPROMISED. WE WERE, WE WERE AT 20, THEY WERE AT 40FT. WE GOT COMPRISED AT 30FT. OR, OR WE WERE PRESENTING 1, 4, 5, 6 AND 8 ARE THE ONES THAT WE AGREED TO. THE OTHER ONES WE COULDN'T REALLY DO IS WE COULDN'T REMOVE THE SECOND ENTRANCE. THAT WAS JUST A FIRE.
LIKE WE JUST, JUST POOR CITY OR ORDINANCE.
WE CAN'T DO THAT. AND THEN BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS THE ONLY FINANCIAL ONE THAT WE JUST COULDN'T. IT JUST, JUST FINANCIALLY DOESN'T WORK.
ALL THE OTHER ONES WE TRIED TO, WE EITHER GAVE ON THEM OR WE TRIED TO AT LEAST GET AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO IT. AND, AND YEAH, WE'RE HAPPY TO BE FLEXIBLE ON SOME OF THESE LIKE EVEN LIKE TENANT RESTRICTIONS. LIKE AGAIN I DON'T KNOW THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT BUT SO THAT WAS OUR ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS IT. SOME OF THESE THINGS WE WOULD HAVE ADDRESSED FOR CITY COUNCIL LAST TIME BUT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO BECAUSE WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO THAT. SO ONCE WE'VE RESTARTED THE PROCESS WE WERE ABLE TO ADJUST AND SO THE CURRENT PROPOSAL FROM THE VERY ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN IN THE PD JUST TO SHOW SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE GOT LAST TIME WAS WHICH ONE'S BETTER, THE ORIGINAL PD OR THIS ONE? I THINK THESE ARE ALL THE REASONS. I THINK IT'S MUCH BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL. YOU HAVE THE WESTERN ACCESS TO THE WESTERN PROPERTY WHICH THE LAST, THE ORIGINAL DIDN'T HAVE. WE FLIPPED THE BUILDING FROM BEING A LONG SANDY LAKE AND HAVING ALL THE CARS BY THE RESIDENTS TO FLIPPING IT SO THAT THE BUILDING ACTS AS A BUFFER FOR THE CARS. WE HAVE A 30 FOOT WHICH IS. I THINK THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT PLAN HAD LIKE A FIVE FOOT SET, LIKE A REALLY TINY SETBACK.
THE 71 TREES INSTALLED AT THE REORDER BOUNDARY, 50 PLUS TREES SAVED. THERE'S NO ARBOR MANOR'S DRIVE CONNECTION, NO DRIVE THROUGH THE 25,000 TO HOA FOR SCREENING IMPROVEMENTS.
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE THE H VAC UNITS SCREENED AS WELL. I THINK THAT WAS A CONCEPT THAT CAME UP LAST TIME AND SO WE, YEAH SO WE AGAIN WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS LAST TIME.
I THINK CITY COUNCIL ENDED UP BEING A 3, 3 VOTE AND SO I THINK THE, WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS AS MUCH OF THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS.
OBVIOUSLY THE RESIDENTS ARE STILL GOING TO NOT WANT THE PROJECT WHICH, WHICH WE, WE APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTAND AND SO. BUT IF THERE'S ANY OTHER CONCERNS I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM. I WAS TRYING TO BE AS COMPREHENSIVE AS POSSIBLE BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE TO THE PLAN SINCE THE PREVIOUS ROUND OF PUBLIC HEARINGS AND TRYING TO ADDRESS ALL THE COMMENTS AND SO CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT. I HAD TWO QUESTIONS. ONE, THE.
WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE HOURS OF OPERATION UNDER THE NEW RETAIL MEDICAL USE WE HAVEN'T LIKED. MOST OF OUR TENANTS ARE GOING TO BE YOUR CALL IT LIKE I WOULD SAY LIKE 8AM TO 7AM TYPE USES. SORRY 7PM USES. YEAH. NOT 23 HOURS 8 TO 7PM I WOULD LIKE THINK
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LIKE A, YOU KNOW I THINK MAYBE, MAYBE LIKE A NAIL SALON MIGHT, MIGHT OPEN A LITTLE EARLY AND GO A LITTLE LATER.LIKE THAT MIGHT BE THE LATEST.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REALLY HAVE MANY.
LIKE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY LIKE THE RESTAURANTS WOULD BE LIKE THE 10PM USERS. YOU KNOW IT'S, IT'S WE TRYING TO THINK IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO NEEDS TO OPEN LIKE REALLY EARLY. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK MOST OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE. AND I THINK ON THE WEEKEND WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO LIKE GIVEN THE USES WE MAY NOT HAVE AS MUCH BECAUSE RESTAURANTS TEND TO BE THE WEEKEND USES AS WELL.
SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE MONDAY TO FRIDAY DAYTIME USE TENANTS THAT. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY MAKES SENSE FOR MEDICAL WILL BE HALF THE BUILDING. AND SO THAT'S. THAT, THAT FALLS IN THAT CATEGORY.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS IN YOUR H VAC IS GOING TO BE ON TOP OF THE BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVEN'T. SO RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ALL THESE CHANGES, WE'VE. WE'VE LIKE PAUSED THE LEASING CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE WE DON'T.
WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO OFFER THE TENANTS. OUR PLAN IS TO ACTUALLY, IS ACTUALLY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THE TENANTS TO PUT THE HVAC ON THE GROUND BETWEEN THE WALL AND THE BUILDING. WE NOW HAVE A 30 FOOT BUFFER. AND SO I THINK IT ACTUALLY IS PROBABLY MOST APPROPRIATE TO GO THERE. I DON'T WANT TO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE MAY BE REASONS WHY THAT CAN'T HAPPEN IN SOME CASES, IN WHICH CASE THEY'D BE ON TOP AND THEY'D BE SCREENED.
BUT I THINK IDEALLY THEY WOULD ACTUALLY GO BEHIND THE PROPERTY AND THAT SPACE BETWEEN THEM AND THEN BETWEEN THE TREES AND THE WALL THAT, LIKE THE NOISE SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE AT ALL. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT IS, THAT'S WHERE WHAT I IDEALLY WOULD HAPPEN.
BUT IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND, YOU PUT THEM ON THE, ON THE SEAT ON THE ROOF.
IS THERE A PARAPET WALL ON THE BACKSIDE? WOULD YOU INSTALL ONE TO KIND OF HIDE ALL THAT? YEAH, WE WOULD.
SO YEAH, THEN THE LAST ITEM OF THAT LIST WAS THAT THERE'D BE.
IT MAY NOT BE A PARAPET WALL, IT'S PROBABLY MORE OF A SCREEN. BUT YEAH, THE PLAN WOULD BE TO SCREEN IT, OR AT LEAST WE'VE PROPOSED SCREENING IT. WE'D WORK WITH THE STAFF TO COME UP WITH LIKE, WHAT DOES SCREENING MEAN IN COPPELL? BUT YEAH, THERE ARE MULTIPLE OPTIONS.
BUT YOU WON'T SEE H VAC UNITS.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION TO THE APPLICANT, CINDY? NO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, INDIVIDUALS ARE REQUIRED TO SPEAK THREE MINUTES. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A PRESENTATION THAT'S BEING PREPARED AND SOMEONE'S GONNA BE PRESENTING IT HERE. OKAY, VERY GOOD. AND THEN IF YOU CAN USE PROPER DECORUM AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION. I GET IT.
WE'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY, SO.
OKAY, VERY GOOD. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUST GO DOWN THE LIST HERE I SEE MONICA PANDA SIGNED FIRST AND FORGIVE ME FOR SOME OF THE. I'LL TRY TO.
ALL RIGHT. I'LL GO WITH THAT ONE.
OKAY. SO HE'LL BE. AND THEN FOLLOWED BY VISHY SABRAMANJA.
AND IF I COULD GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
MY NAME IS MONICA PANDA. 114 HARBOR MANORS DRIVE. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
COMMISSIONERS APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. SO THIS IS NOT OUR FIRST TIME HERE, RIGHT? WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS. MY BIGGEST TAKE BACK TODAY WHEN I WAS HEARING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. I LIVE AT THE CORNER OF ARBOR MANOR'S DRIVE. I AM THE FIRST HOUSE AS YOU ENTER AND THE FIRST HOUSE ON THE LEFT. RIGHT NEXT TO MCDONALD'S AND ALL THOSE FUN COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES. IF I GO OUT IN MY PATIO IN THE EVENING, I SEE ONE CAR COME IN EVERY FEW MINUTES. THAT TAKES A TURN RIGHT AT OUR ENTRANCE. THAT IS THE CUT THROUGH. THERE'S PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH ALL THE TIME.
SO I'M REALLY FLABBERGASTED WITH THE FINDINGS OF THE STUDY. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE NOT DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE TRAFFIC STUDY. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW IT WAS DONE, WHEN IT WAS DONE, THE DURATION, WHAT WAS COVERED. I THINK OUR PRESENTATION HAS PICTURES FROM 5PM MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC. I'VE BEEN LIVING NEXT TO BUSINESSES FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS. THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER NUISANCE. WE'RE NOT EVEN GOING THERE.
BUT THE TRAFFIC. FOR US TO GET OUT OF ARBOR MANORS DRIVE AT 5PM ON A WEEKDAY WHEN THE SCHOOL'S IN, IT'S AT LEAST 10, 15 MINUTES. AND IF SOMEBODY LETS THE SCHOOL GO. OTHERWISE YOU'RE JUST WAITING AND WAITING AND WAITING. THIS IS. TURNING LEFT IS A WHOLE NEW STORY. AND THE ENTRANCE IS 200FT. THE EXIT, SORRY, THE SECOND EXIT IS JUST 200FT WEST. WHICH MEANS IT'LL CHOKE IT UP FURTHER.
WE'RE IN COPPELL. WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE ARE A FAMILY COMMUNITY. WE WANT
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TO STAY HERE. OUR KIDS HAVE GROWN AND GRADUATED. WE ARE STILL HERE BECAUSE OF THIS BEING THE COMMUNITY THAT IT IS.SO WE NEED TO BE. WE'RE ESSENTIALLY A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. WE WELCOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. SOME OF US ARE BUSINESS OWNERS. WE GET THAT. WE ARE REASONABLE PEOPLE. WE'RE NOT SAYING NO, NO WAY. BUT WE WANT IT TO BE WHERE WE KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS DONE ITS DUE DILIGENCE. AND YOU ARE PRIORITIZING YOUR CITIZENS.
WE WELCOME THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. THEY WORK WITH US.
BUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY, I THINK, AND AS RISHI WILL SHARE HIS PRESENTATION, THE TXDOT NUMBERS SOMEHOW DON'T MATCH, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE THE CASE.
BUT I AM TELLING YOU, I LIVE THERE. AND EVERY FIVE MINUTES THERE'S A CAR EITHER CUTTING THROUGH ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
MR. NEVILLS ALSO MENTIONED HE ALSO CUTS THROUGH SOMETIMES.
SO IT'S A. I'M JUST FLABBERGASTED BY THE FINDINGS, FIRST OF ALL. SO I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THAT. I WOULD REQUEST YOU GUYS TO REVISIT THAT. WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE. WE MAKE SURE THAT WE PRIORITIZE OUR CITIZENS. THE SECOND THING THAT ALSO COMES WITH COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IS I HAVE LIVED THAT EXPERIENCE FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS. MCDONALD'S 24 HOURS A DAY FOR EVERYBODY. NOT FOR ME, BECAUSE THE CONSTRUCTION WAS A NIGHTMARE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY KNOWS THIS, BUT I HAD TO CALL ON EMERGENCY NUMBER MULTIPLE TIMES. AGAIN, MAYBE THIS IS NOT UNDER YOUR PURVIEW, BUT SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND. WHENEVER THERE'S A NEW CONSTRUCTION, THEY ALMOST NEVER FOLLOW THE 7AM TO 7PM RULE. NO WEEKENDS.
SOMETIMES I HAVE CALLED AT LEAST FOUR TIMES. SO AS MY NEIGHBOR, MAYBE FIVE TIMES.
SOMETIMES WE HAVEN'T EVEN CALLED BECAUSE WE'RE LIKE SO FED UP.
RIGHT? I WANT YOU ALL TO CONSIDER ALL THESE THINGS BEFORE WE SAY YES TO ANYTHING, BECAUSE WHEN WE CAME IN, THAT WAS ALREADY THERE.
BUT THIS IS BEING BUILT. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN HERE FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. PANDA. SO DIVASHISH, THEN FOLLOWED BY VISHY, FOLLOWED BY LYNN.
148 AMBERWOOD DRIVE IN COPELL IN THE ALBUM MANORS NEIGHBORHOOD. THE BIG, YOU KNOW, THE BIG CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO REITERATE THIS, THAT THE OTHER THING THAT MONICA DIDN'T BRING UP IS NOT ONLY IS THE TRAFFIC PRETTY INTENSE AND THE CUT THROUGH THAT HAPPENS, THAT INTERSECTION HAS HAD AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR SERIOUS ACCIDENTS. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT REPORTED BECAUSE I AT LEAST HAVE ONE MEMBER HERE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHOSE SON'S CAR GOT COMPLETELY TOTALED. I HAVE ANOTHER FRIEND WHO'S MY NEIGHBOR. HIS DAUGHTER'S CAR GOT COMPLETELY TOTALED. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE JUST GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO START SEEING MORE AND MORE SERIOUS ACCIDENTS. LIKE TODAY WHEN WE WERE COMING HERE, WE ALREADY HAD A BACKUP. THERE IS NO SCHOOL OPEN YET BUT AT FOUR OR FIVE IN THE EVENING THAT ENTRANCE TO ABU MANORS IS COMPLETELY CHOKED. YOU KNOW. AND SO THERE IS TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CUT THROUGH. WE NOTICED IT THIS WEEKEND. WE WERE DOING, WE WERE GOING FROM HOME TO HOME TRYING TO SEE IF PEOPLE NEED ANY HELP TO COMPLETE THE SURVEY. AND WE SAW PEOPLE JUST, JUST CONSTANTLY TURNING INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD TRYING TO CIRCUMVENT THE U TURN, THE LEGAL U TURN THAT THEY HAVE IN FRONT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO HAVING A BIG 14,000 SQUARE FOOT, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS ONLY GOING TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSES THERE ARE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME INCREASE IN TRAFFIC. AND, AND SO YOU KNOW, OUR EARNEST PLEA IS, YOU KNOW, TO PLEASE CONSIDER WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO BRING UP AND ADDRESS THESE ISSUES SOMEHOW.
THANK YOU MR. VISHY. FOLLOWED BY ALIN. FOLLOWED BY NILESH.
CAN YOU PLEASE BRING UP THAT POWERPOINT. MY NAME IS VISHI SUBRAMANIAM. I LIVE AT 126 WILD PLUM DRIVE. MY HOUSE IS RIGHT BEHIND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS.
THIS IS MY WIFE. SHE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TALK OR ADD SOME STUFF TO IT TO WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY.
LET'S GO TO THE SLIDE NUMBER THREE PLEASE.
THERE WERE SIX DEAL BREAKERS FOR US WHEN WE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL. I'M SORRY, THERE WERE SIX MAJOR ITEMS THAT WE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THE FIRST ONE IS THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT WHAT MONICA AND OTHERS ALREADY SAID. SO IT'S ALREADY DONE. WE DON'T AGREE WITH IT. WHY DO I SAY I DON'T AGREE WITH IT? IS BECAUSE THE DATA THAT I WILL SHOW YOU NEXT WILL PROVE THAT IN TERMS OF THE REDUCING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING THERE IS NO CHANGE FROM THE PRIORITY DENIAL. NO RESTAURANTS AND PATIOS. THIS IS, THIS IS ONE WHICH TYLER HAS AGREED TO. SO. BUT OUR QUESTION
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TO YOU IS HOW WILL THIS BE ENFORCED? TODAY IT IS TYLER.HE SAYS I'M NOT, I DON'T PLAN TO RENT TO BE TO RESTAURANTS AND STUFF AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE ENFORCED? OKAY, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT. WE HAD ALSO REQUESTED A SIGNALIZED ACCESS TO THE WEST OF THE PD DEVELOPMENT AND WE HAD DONE OUR ANALYSIS AND WE KNOW IT IS ABOUT 950FT FROM THE WHISPERING HILLS DRIVE AS TRAFFIC LIGHT. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S SO CLOSE. THOUSAND IS THE LIMIT. I GUESS SO. . IT'S SO CLOSE. WE REQUESTED FOR A STUDY TO BE DONE. NOW AS PART OF THIS STUDY THAT THE CITY PERSON MENTIONED BEFORE HE FAILED TO MENTION THAT THE STUDY WAS NOT DONE ON THE ARBOR MANUS AND SANDY LAKE INTERSECTION. THE STUDY WAS DONE ONLY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY OF THE ENTRANCE. IT WAS NOT DONE ON THIS SIDE. ACCORDING TO THE REPORT THAT MS. POWELL READ A FEW MINUTES BACK.
BOSWELL, I'M SORRY, APOLOGIZE. ALSO THE HEIGHT OF THE WALL. WE REALLY WANTED IT, BUT THERE'S NO CHANGE HERE.
NOW, THE SETBACK, THERE ARE TWO POINTS THAT TYLER MENTIONED. ONE WAS WE SAID INCREASE THE SETBACK. HE HAS GIVEN US A SLIGHT BIT OF INCREASE FROM 20 TO 30FT.
THE SECOND ONE WAS MOVE THE BUILDING TO THE FRONT OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS WHAT THE ORIGINAL PD ASKED FOR OR CALLED FOR. SAID PUT IT IN THE FRONT, DO NOT PUT IT IN THE BACK. THE IDEA WAS. I THINK I WASN'T HERE AT THAT TIME. THE IDEA I THINK WAS TO HAVE THE BUILDING IN THE FRONT SO THAT IT IS NOT.
IT'S FAR AWAY, AS FAR AS POSSIBLE FROM THE PROPERTY. THE LANDOWNERS.
LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE. YEAH, THIS ONE IS FROM TEXAS DOT CRIS SYSTEM. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THEY SAID THAT THIS IS NOT. IT IS VERY SAFE TO TURN THERE BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THIS, SIR, YOUR TIME IS UP.
YEAH, BUT ANYWAY, LET ME CLOSE IT.
YEAH, IF YOU COULD JUST WRAP UP.
ACCORDING TO THIS, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TWO SIDES, IT'S ALREADY MARKED RED AND THERE WAS A DEATH AT THE WHISPERING HILLS DRIVE. AND ALSO THERE IS OTHER THING IS THERE WAS A RECENT DEATH IN NEXT OUTSIDE TACO BELL ON DENT AND TAP. SO HOW CAN.
HOW CAN THEY SAY THERE IS NO DEATHS? THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ELYN. OH, YOU WANT TO SWITCH? OKAY, THAT'S FINE.
OH, I'M ON THE ZOOM CALL IF I GET MY TIME.
I'M SORRY, COULD YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? I'M ON THE. I'M OVER THE ZOOM CALL.
OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYBODY. AND THEN MR. COMMISSIONER AND. AND THE PNG TEAM. MY FIRST THING IS THE PNG SHOULD BE ABSOLUTELY DISAPPROVED.
OKAY? NO MATTER HOW MUCH MS. BOSWELL HAVE TALKED ABOUT CHAMPIONING THE DEVELOPERS STEPS HERE, THEY MAKE NO SENSE BECAUSE THE LAST PD WAS CANCELLED. WE REQUESTED FOR THE OLD PD. WE DON'T WANT THIS PROJECT AT ALL. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY RETAIL SPACES VACANT AVAILABLE. THE CITY'S INTEREST, ESPECIALLY THE PNC'S INTEREST, SHOULD BE LOOKING OUT FOR BRINGING BUSINESSES TO HELP RESIDENTS AND NOT HELP BUSINESS TO WORK RESIDENTS WITH THEM.
SO THAT'S ONE THING BEING SAID, THIS DEVELOPER HAS NO INTEREST IN THE WELL BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. HE IS CHUGGING ALONG JUST TO CHECK THE WATER.
WITH HUNDREDS OF PLANNING PARKING SPOTS GETTING APPROVED FROM ALL OF YOU COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.
IT'S A. IT'S A TWO ACRE PARCEL WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY LIKE AN ARMPIT IN THE JUNCTION OF SANDY LAKE AND DENTON DAP. I WOULD REQUEST ALL OF YOU TO CONSIDER THE BEST INTEREST OF THE RESIDENTS DAILY LIFE.
AND THIS FOOTPRINT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT DOWN TO 50% AND THE BUILDING NEEDS TO BE SET TOWARDS THE FRONT NORTHWEST NEXT TO THE VERIZON ACROSS FROM ANDES AND STATE AND STATE FARM INSURANCE AGENCY.
THIS DEVELOPER IS NOT DOING ANY FAVOR. HE'S NOT THE LANDOWNER.
HE'S TRYING TO BUILD A BUSINESS ON TOP OF THE LANDOWNER. LANDOWNER WHO IS SOMEBODY ELSE. SO THERE IS NO REASON TO HAVE SYMPATHY WITH THIS DEVELOPER BECAUSE HE'S MOVING 10FT ALONG. THIS IS NOT AMERICAN FOOTBALL TO GET 40 YARDS.
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OKAY.THIS IS OUR LIFE. WE LIVE HERE.
YOU ARE, YOU'RE SETTING THIS BUILDING FOR OUR FAILURE, OUR CHILDREN'S LIVES. SO YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THIS FROM THE BIGGEST EMPATHY AND SYMPATHY FROM.
FOR THE RESIDENTS FIRST AND NOT FOR THIS DEVELOPER. HIS REVENUE IS NOT GOING TO BE THE ONE WHICH IS GOING TO BRING THE VIBES FOR CITY'S SUCCESS.
OKAY, LET ME FINISH THEN YOU TELL ME. THREE MINUTES OVER.
YOU'RE INTERRUPTING ME. MA', AM. PLEASE HOLD ON. SO THIS NEEDS TO BE CUT THROUGH. THIS PROJECT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY SQUASHED AND WE DON'T NEED ANY BUSINESSES IN ANY SENSE.
OKAY. WE NEED CITY PLANNING, ZONING, AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PLEASE UNDERSTAND WE ARE NOT AGAINST CITIES PROGRESS.
BUT THIS LOCATION IS IN ABSOLUTE WRONG POSITION.
AND BLESSING THIS DEVELOPER TO BRING 14,000 SQUARE FOOT OF RETAIL SPACE. I WILL SAY AS A RESIDENT AND THE BEST WISHER, YOU ARE DOING MISTAKE. THIS NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY REJECTED AND THIS PLANNING NEEDS TO BE SET BACK TO AT THE MOST 07,000 SQUARE FOOT ACROSS FROM ANDES TO THE NORTHWEST WITH THE SIGNAL ACCESS AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THE CENTER EXIT AT THE PROPERTY LINE RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW THEY GAVE HARD TIME LAST TIME WHEN WE DID IT. NOW THEY ARE SAYING IT'S POSSIBLE.
YOU KNOW IF YOU COULD WRAP UP PLEASE.
THERE. OKAY. ARE. ARE YOU A LYNN? YOU'RE A LYNN.
YOU'RE GOING TO YIELD YOUR TIME TO HER? NO, THERE'S.
SHE'S AT WIFE. THERE'S SHANTI AND SHE'S GOING TO SPEAK BEFORE HER.
YEAH, GOTCHA. OKAY, IF I GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.
YEAH, I'M SHANTI SUBRAMANYAM AND I'M AT 126 WILD PLUM DRIVE, WHICH IS RIGHT BEHIND THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. AND I CAN TELL FROM OUR OWN EXPERIENCES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE IS A TRAFFIC ISSUE. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY DID THE STUDY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVEN LAST TIME WHEN WE SPOKE WITH THE PREVIOUS ITEM, THAT THERE WAS SO MUCH TRAFFIC, YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE TO THE BACK. AND HAVING A NEW DEVELOPMENT OF THAT SIZE IS GOING TO BE REALLY BAD FOR THE COMMUNITY. IT'S REALLY NOT GOOD FOR CAPEL. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING DOWN SO MANY TREES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AFFECTING SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS. AND THERE IS NO BUSINESS NEED. THERE ARE SO MANY EMPTY COMMERCIAL SPACES.
AS WAS DISCUSSED, THE TRAFFIC IS PROJECTED TO INCREASE BY OVER 40% AND CURRENTLY IT'S 17,000 VEHICLES PER DAY. AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE BASIS ON WHICH THAT PROPERTY WAS ADVERTISED WHEN THE BUYER BOUGHT IT. THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC. AND TO HAVE THAT AND THEN HAVE THAT FURTHER INCREASED IS NOT GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND SAFETY FOR OUR, OUR RESIDENTS, OUR CHILDREN AND EVERYBODY WHO'S THERE. ESPECIALLY MAKING LEFT TURNS. IF WE DON'T WANT THIS DEVELOPMENT, IF WE HAVE TO HAVE IT, IT HAS TO BE UNDER VERY SAFE CONDITIONS TO ADD A TRAFFIC LIGHT BECAUSE THAT SLOWS DOWN THE TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING, ALLOWING PEOPLE TO MAKE LEFT TURNS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO COME OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFELY.
OTHERWISE WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC. PLEASE DON'T DO THIS TO US.
THERE ARE SOME PICTURES THERE.
CAN YOU PLEASE GO THROUGH THAT? YEAH, FURTHER DOWN.
YEAH, THIS IS THE TRAFFIC ON SANDY LAKE AROUND 5PM EASTBOUND. AND THIS IS THE ISSUE. NOBODY EVEN CLEARS THE JUNCTION FOR US. PEOPLE MAKE U TURNS AND WE'RE TRYING TO TURN LEFT OR RIGHT AND THERE'S THESE U TURNS THAT ARE BEING DONE. I KNOW THERE'S SIGNS POSTED, BUT THIS CREATES A SAFE, FURTHER SAFETY ISSUE BY ADDING MORE TRAFFIC. THIS IS ONLY GOING TO WORSEN. IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE LIVES BETTER.
AND THAT IS SO IF WE CAN. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A WALL. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE RESTAURANTS. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS KIND OF VIEW. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE RODENTS. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THESE SMELLS. AND AGAIN, AS VISHY BROUGHT UP, THERE IS. WHAT CLAUSES CAN YOU GIVE US THAT WOULD MAKE SURE IF SOMETHING WERE TO EVEN COME, THAT WE DON'T HAVE RESTAURANTS? BECAUSE JUST A VERBAL. IT DOESN'T WORK. BECAUSE HE CAN MEAN IT. HE CAN LEASE IT TO SOMEONE, HE CAN SELL IT TO SOMEONE AND WE NEED IT IN WRITING. THAT IS PART OF THE ZONING. IF IT HAS
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TO HAPPEN AT ALL. WE REALLY DON'T WANT SUCH A DEVELOPMENT.IF IT HAS TO BE, IT HAS TO BE SMALL AND WE HAVE TO HAVE IT AS FAR AS POSSIBLE FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE NOISE, WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING THAT COMES WITH IT. SMELLS, THE RODENTS THAT WILL COME AS A PART OF BUSINESS AND GARBAGE AND ALL OF THAT. AS MONICA BROUGHT UP, GARBAGE, ALTHOUGH IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN AT A CERTAIN TIME, THEY DON'T RESPECT THAT. THEY COME EARLIER. THEY DISTURB PEOPLE AND WE DON'T WANT THAT.
WE ALL WORK VERY HARD TO MAKE THE MONEY THAT WE MAKE TO PAY FOR THESE PROPERTIES AND THE TAXES AND WE SOMETIMES WORK LATE, LATE HOURS AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS DISTURB OUR LIVES.
OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAD ANOTHER PERSON THAT SIGNED UP. PRAKASH.
YEAH, I'M PRAKASH ARUMUGAM FROM 100 SHADYDALE LANE. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. SO I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. I'M NOT TOTALLY OPPOSING THIS BUT I'M JUST RIGHT NOW I JUST OPPOSING THE PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE MAIN CONCERN IS TRAFFIC ONLY BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE SHERRY DALE LANE. IF YOU SEE THAT, THAT IS A OAK TRUCK, THEIR LANE. THE PEOPLE WANTS TO GET THEIR LEFT TURN OF THE, YOU KNOW TOWARDS THE GENTLE TAB. THEY HAVE TO COME THROUGH ALL THE WAY TO SHADY RAIL. THEY HAVE TO WAIT ON THAT AND THEY HAVE TO CUT THROUGH THE LEFT LANE. SO THE TRAFFIC ALWAYS BE MORE IN THE MORNING AND EVENING.
IT'S ALWAYS THERE BE A TRAFFIC AND I WANT TO BRING ATTENTION LIKE THERE IS GOING TO BE A HIGH TECH SCHOOL GOING TO BE JOINING THE COPPEL HIGH SCHOOL. SO THE HIGH TECH IS GOING TO BE MOVED TO 20, 26, 27 CALENDAR HERE.
THAT IS THE HIGH I-TECH SCHOOL THAT SECONDARY THAT ONE, THAT NEW TECH. SORRY THERE'S A NEW TECH HIGH SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE JOINED IN OUR COPAL HIGH SCHOOL.
OKAY SO FROM THAT PART HIGH SCHOOL SIDE.
YES SIR. SO, IT'S GOING TO BE JOINING OUR HIGH SCHOOL COPAL HIGH SCHOOL. SO IT'S GOING TO BE AGAIN MORE TRAFFIC ALSO IN THAT, YOU KNOW THAT IS THE ONE CONCERN. ANOTHER ONE IS THAT MCDONALD'S IS GOING TO BE 24 HOURS SO THAT ALSO GOING TO BE MORE TRAFFIC AND ALSO ALREADY THE BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, OUR TATERS, JOE'S AND EVERY EVERYONE SO IS BUSY ALREADY. WE ARE SEEING SO MANY TRAFFIC. SO I JUST REALLY WANT TO CONSIDER THIS. WE ARE NOT TOTALLY OPPOSING YOU GUYS CAN CONSIDER THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS. AND ALSO A LOT OF SCHOOL KIDS, ALL MORNING AND EVENING, THEY ARE BICYCLING AND EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE MAIN CONCERN FOR ME. YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT IT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO THE LAST PERSON? YES, SIR. IN GREEN. AND I DON'T SEE YOU'RE SIGNED UP, BUT IF I CAN.
NO, I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY, I CAME LATE. OKAY, SORRY.
PRIYA DURSHAN BISWALD, 139 WEST BRAVE DRIVE, COPPELL, TEXAS.
SO I THINK THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE ARE HERE. THANK YOU FOR GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU AGAIN. SO I THINK EVERYBODY WAS TELLING THE SAME TRAFFIC ISSUES. TAKING A LEFT TURN FROM OUR SUBDIVISION. IT'S A NIGHTMARE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. WHEN WE WERE DRIVING TO OUR KIDS TO SCHOOL, SOMEBODY WILL BE LOOKING AT LEFT, SOMEBODY WILL BE LOOKING AT THE RIGHT. BUT I HAVE TWINS LIKE BOY AND GIRL. SO THEY USED TO LOOK AT LEFT, RIGHT. THEN I USED TO DRIVE IN THE FRONT.
IT'S A REALLY NIGHTMARE TO TAKE IT UP. OTHER THING IS LIKE OUR SUBDIVISION, WE HAVE LIKE 65, 70 HOUSES. RIGHT. AND OTHER SUBDIVISION, THE WINDPAGE, WHICH IS OUR NEIGHBORING SUBDIVISION, THEY ALSO USE OUR ENTRANCE LIKE ARBOR MANOR AND SANDY LAKE ENTRANCE. THEY ALSO HAVE THE SAME ISSUES. RIGHT. SO I WOULD REQUEST AT LEAST DO A PROPER STUDY.
THEY DID A STUDY AND THERE WAS NO ACCIDENT, NO DEATH. SO THAT'S COMPLETELY FALSE. WE HAVE SONY THE RECORD AND WE HAVE ALSO EXPERIENCE THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE, RIGHT.
WHOEVER IS LIKE UNDERSTANDING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THERE'S TWO CARS GOT TOTAL IN LAST ONE YEAR. SO IT'S COMPLETELY LIKE. I WOULD REQUEST TO DO A FURTHER ANALYSIS AND STUDY ON THE TRAFFIC. THAT'S MY REQUEST. THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE CASE FOR OR AGAINST? OKAY, MA'AM.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SWITCH WITH MY HUSBAND. I HAD PUT HIS NAME ON THE LIST. ATIN KULKARNI, I'M HIS WIFE. AT 122 WILD PLUM DRIVE. VISHY'S NEIGHBORS, VISHY AND SHANTI. SO WE ARE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT. I'LL BRING BACK THE TRAFFIC STUDY. I JUST WANT TO. I DON'T MIND. I'LL BRING BACK THIS TRAFFIC STUDY POINT.
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TO SEE OUR DEVELOPMENT EVEN ON THE AGENDA BEFORE THEY COMPLETED THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WE HAD REQUESTED. AND SCHOOLS DON'T START UNTIL 11TH OF AUGUST. AND IT'S NO POINT IN TELLING US THAT THE OTHER ENTRANCE TRAFFIC IS OKAY WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT IS AT THIS ENTRANCE OF HARBOR MANOR. IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO US TO EVEN SEE IT BEING MENTIONED.BUT SHE DID MENTION THAT THIS SIDE TRAFFIC STUDY IS STILL PENDING. SHANTI BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT. WE PAY HIGHER TAXES TO BE IN COPPELL SCHOOL DISTRICTS. WHAT'S THE POINT IF WE DON'T FEEL SAFE ENOUGH FOR OUR KIDS TO WALK TO COPPELL HIGH SCHOOL JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT SAFE TO GO THAT ROUTE ANYMORE BECAUSE THERE IS A NO U TURN. WE HAVE ENOUGH NUMBER OF PEOPLE TURNING AND MAKING U TURNS IN OUR COMMUNITY. IN FRONT OF MONICA HOUSE, IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, THERE ARE STOP SIGNS WHICH PEOPLE NEVER SEE.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT THE TURN SPEED IS BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO CATCH THE NEXT GREEN SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION. THAT'S ONE ONE POINT THAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER. SECOND POINT IS THE DEVELOPER WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO SAY THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE RESTAURANTS. THERE WAS NO RESTAURANT BEFORE LITTLE CAESAR'S CAME. THERE WAS A NILS. IT DIDN'T MAKE ANY BUSINESS, SO HE SOLD IT TO LITTLE CAESAR'S RIGHT ACROSS, RIGHT BEHIND MONICA'S HOUSE.
HOW DID THAT HELP HER? SO PLEASE CONSIDER THESE POINTS WHEN YOU ARE THINKING OF EVEN APPROVING THIS HUGE DEVELOPMENT OR MINIMIZE THE SIZE OF THE DEVELOPMENT SO THAT IT'S NOT ATTRACTIVE TO ANY RESTAURANTS. IF YOU MAKE THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING SMALL ENOUGH TO BE NOT ATTRACTIVE TO RESTAURANTS, YOU CAN AT LEAST HELP ADDRESS THAT PIECE.
WE WORK HARD, VERY HARD, TO PAY COPPELL TAXES AND DO NOT DETER NEW TENANTS OR NEW RESIDENTS FROM BUYING PROPERTIES IN COPPELL BY STATING, BY PUTTING SUCH AN EXAMPLE OF PUTTING COMMERCIAL OVER RESIDENTIAL. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A RESIDENTIAL FRIENDLY CITY. WE'VE LIVED HERE. WE LOVE IT. AND WE WOULD CONTINUE TO SAY THAT. AND PLEASE HELP US CONTINUE TO SAY THAT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE PROPOSED APPLICATION EITHER FOR OR AGAINST SEEING NONE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MARY, IS THE TRAFFIC STUDY, IS THAT BEEN MADE AVAILABLE UP ON THE WEBSITE? NO, THEY'RE FINALIZING IT RIGHT NOW.
OKAY. AND IF I COULD HAVE MR. BAKER BACK AT THE PODIUM, PLEASE.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S JUST STAFF COMMENT. IT'S A QUESTION OF STAFF. SO, IF YOU COULD REITERATE THE PERFORMANCE OF THE TIA WHEN IT WAS DONE, YOU KNOW, WE SAW SOME PICTURES OF QUEUED TRAFFIC THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.
BUT THIS TIA WAS DONE BEFORE SCHOOL WAS OUT.
THE TRIP VOLUMES WERE MEASURED BEFORE SCHOOL WAS OUT? YES.
THE ACTUAL STUDY ITSELF WAS JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED, ACTUALLY, SINCE THE STAFF REPORT WAS WRITTEN. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE. THE LANGUAGE WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT. IT WAS DONE IN TWO PHASES. THE INITIAL PHASE WAS COMPLETED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND THEN THE STAFF REPORT WAS WRITTEN EARLY LAST WEEK. AND SO, THE STUDY ITSELF WAS. THEY SENT US THE FINAL DRAFT AFTER THAT STAFF REPORT WAS PUBLISHED.
AND HAS THE ENGINEER CALLED TO SUPPORT THE PRESENTATION OR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT TIA TO START STAFF, OR HAS IT JUST BEEN SUBMITTED AND THAT'S IT? AS THE CONSULTANT, YES. HAS HE FOLLOWED UP? HAVE YOU ALL HAD A MEETING WITH HIM? YES, WE'VE SPOKEN WITH HIM AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH SOME OF OUR COMMENTS.
THERE'S MINOR REVISIONS THAT ARE BEING DONE BEFORE IT IS FINALLY SUBMITTED FOR THE FINAL RECORD.
ARE ANY OF THOSE POTENTIAL CHANGES, NOTHING SUBSTANTIAL MIGHT AFFECT THE ANALYSIS PER SE.
NO, THE ANALYSIS IS FINALIZED.
ALL OF THE JUST MINOR TYPOS AND JUST CLARIFICATIONS OF OKAY. AND THEN THE. I SAW AN IMAGE OF THE CRIS DATA. SO, IT'S KIND OF ONE THAT HAS A FATALITY.
AND YOU ALL LOOKED UP THE DATA AND YOU FOUND NO FATALITIES, SO.
THE CRIS DATA IS SHOWING THERE WERE 10 ACCIDENTS WITHIN THE PAST FIVE YEARS AT THE INTERSECTION BY THIS DEVELOPMENT, ARBOR MANORS DRIVE AND SANDY LAKE ROAD. THOSE. THE CRISTATE IS NOT SHOWING FATALITIES FOR THAT.
THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THE RESIDENTS HAD SUBMITTED TO US, THEY DID INCLUDE REFERENCES TO WHERE THOSE FATALITIES WERE.
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FITNESS COURT THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER. AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE MUCH FURTHER WEST ON SANDY LAKE ROAD. SO NOT WITHIN THE VICINITY OF THIS PROJECT OR OUR STUDY THAT WE JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED.OKAY. AND I COULD HARDLY READ THE IMAGE THERE.
BUT THERE COULD BE SERIOUS ACCIDENTS, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM FATALITIES.
SO, THE CRIS DATA THAT OUR CONSULTANT FOUND SUBMITTED TO US DOESN'T SHOW SERIOUS INJURIES. IT SHOWS MINOR INJURIES, SUSPECTED INJURIES, OR NO INJURIES.
OKAY. AND THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT SANDY LAKE AND ARBOR MANORS, THAT INTERSECTION NOT BEING EVALUATED, THAT THAT WAS THE PHASE TWO OF THE PROJECT, THAT.
YES. IN THE STAFF REPORT, WE WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT AT TIME OF WRITING, THE CONCLUSIONS WEREN'T FINALIZED, BUT THAT IT WOULD BE COMING.
AND THEN I GUESS, MARY, WITH THE SUBJECT TO THE RESPONSE BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, OR IF THEY. IF, HOWEVER, GOES TO THE COUNCIL, WILL THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEER BE A PART OF THAT PRESENTATION? THE COUNCIL.
I'M NOT. YOU'RE SAYING THE ACTUAL ENGINEER? YES.
WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT, THAT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR.
WAS THAT PART OF THE SCOPE FOR HIM TO PRESENT THE ANALYSIS TO COUNCIL OR PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING? I THINK THAT WE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE THE RESULTS AND THAT IT WOULD BE PRESENTED. I'M NOT SURE IF STAFF WOULD DO THAT PRESENTATION OR THE, OR THE.
OKAY, KENT, ANY. WELL, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? YES, SIR. OKAY, KENT, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
COLE, ONE OF THE FOLKS MAKING A PRESENTATION HERE TALKED ABOUT CUT THROUGH. AND MY INITIAL UNDERSTANDING OF CUT THROUGH WAS THAT THEY WERE COMING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AND EXITING OUT ON DETON TAP SOMEWHERE TOWARDS THE I GUESS IT WOULD BE THE NORTHERN END OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT MY IMPRESSION FROM WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING HERE WHEN THEY SAY CUT THROUGH IS THAT THEY'RE MAKING A RIGHT HAND TURN INTO THAT STREET, DOING THAT LOOP DE DOO AROUND THE HOMES THAT ARE RIGHT THERE AT THE INTERSECTION AND COMING BACK. IS THAT, WAS THAT PART OF THE STUDY? SO, YOU'RE REFERRING TO PEOPLE TURNING INTO ARBOR MANOR'S DRIVE AND THEN EXITING BACK THE SAME WAY THEY CAME.
SO, THERE'S WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, YOU GO TO ARBOR MANOR DRIVE AND YOU CAN MAKE ALMOST AN IMMEDIATE RIGHT HAND TURN INTO A LOOP THAT COMES BACK TO AUBURN MANOR DRIVE. AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY OR SEEING THAT CORRECTLY? YEAH, IT'S THERE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A CUL-DE-SAC THERE.
YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE CUL-DE-SAC THAT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE DISCUSSING? SO, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT. WE CAN ASK OUR CONSULTANT TO CLARIFY THAT.
CAN YOU BRING UP GOOGLE MAPS ON YOUR PLAN? SO, OKAY, TIME OUT, TIME OUT, TIME OUT. SO, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE DIRECTING QUESTIONS TO STAFF. THANK YOU.
WE CAN ASK OUR CONSULTANT ABOUT THAT. HAVE THEM CLARIFY SEE RIGHT THERE, COLE, THAT LITTLE AREA THAT I'M REFERRING TO.
WITH THE HOA LOT IN THE MIDDLE.
SO, YOU DON'T KNOW FOR SURE IF THAT WAS CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE SO CALLED CUT THROUGH THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DO NOT. THEY DO HAVE TRAFFIC VOLUMES. SO, THEY, THEY HAVE VOLUMES OF TRAFFIC TURNING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TRAFFIC TURNING OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, THEY CAN LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS. AND I CAN ALSO ASK THEM IF THEY, THEY DID DO A FIELD VISIT TO OBSERVE THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND SO BE A WORTHY CONSIDERATION.
YEAH, BUT IF THEY'RE DOING THE COUNTS, THEY WOULD CAPTURE THOSE.
YES, THEY WOULD CAPTURE THE TRAFFIC TURNING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY WOULD TRAFFIC. SO THEY WOULD BASICALLY BE DOUBLE COUNTING THOSE CARS IF THEY WERE TURNING IN AND THEN TURNING OUT. SO WE'LL ASK THEM TO LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS AND JUST CLARIFY.
IN TERMS OF THE. YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT THAT IT DIDN'T WARRANT.
IT WARRANTED TRAFFIC LIGHT COMING OUT. COULD YOU TALK MORE ABOUT THAT? YES.
SO, THE MANUAL ON TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES, IT HAS A NUMBER OF WARRANTS THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET AT LEAST ONE WARRANT TO WARRANT THE INSTALLATION OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. THAT'S BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THE MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES HAS GUIDANCE THAT A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WILL JUST WANT TO PUT UP A TRAFFIC SIGNAL FOR ANY SORT OF TRAFFIC PROBLEM, BUT THAT CAN ACTUALLY END UP CAUSING MORE HARM THAN GOOD, DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE WARRANTS ARE DESIGNED TO DO, IS TO PROVIDE AN ENGINEERING STANDARD TO DO A STUDY TO EVALUATE WHETHER A SIGNAL IS WARRANTED,
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MAKE SURE IT'S PROVIDING BENEFIT, WHILE ALSO REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF DELAY THAT IT IS DOING TO THE OVERALL TRAVELING PUBLIC.SO, THEY LOOKED AT ALL THOSE WARRANTS FOR THIS AND IT DIDN'T MEET ANY OF THE WARRANTS? YEAH, THERE'S 14 WARRANTS AND YOU HAVE TO MEET A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WARRANTS.
YEAH, THERE'S A NUMBER OF WARRANTS DEPENDING ON THE RATIOS OF TRAFFIC FROM THE SIDE STREETS TO THE MAIN STREETS. THERE'S ONES FOR PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS OR ACCIDENTS OR IT REALLY COVERS A WIDE VARIETY.
AND WHEN THEY DID THE TRAFFIC COUNTS, THERE WERE SOME PRESENT TO OBSERVE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS IF THERE. IF ANY OCCURRED.
YEAH, THEY DID SUBMIT PEDESTRIAN CROSSING DATA WITH THE OKAY, OKAY.
KENT, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU CORRECTLY. I GOT BAD HEARING IN THIS EAR WHEN YOU SAID THE HIGH OF ACCIDENTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY COUNTED.
WHAT IS THAT? YOU WERE SAYING THAT.
I WAS CLARIFYING IF THE. IF THE CRIS DATA THAT WAS SHOWN IF IT WAS FATALITIES OR A SERIOUS ACCIDENT. AND SO THE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD IF THERE WAS FATALITIES. THERE ARE NO FATALITIES ACCORDING TO THE CRIS DATA THAT STAFF HAS RECEIVED. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S NOT SERIOUS ACCIDENTS.
BUT STAFF CONFIRMED THAT THE WERE NO SERIOUS ACCIDENTS, RIGHT? YES. NO SERIOUS INJURIES, NO SERIOUS INJURIES, MINOR INJURIES, OR POSSIBLE INJURIES, BUT NONE OF THE CATEGORIZATION OF SERIOUS INJURIES.
OKAY, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.
AND THEN I GUESS THE SECOND TO FINAL QUESTION IS THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER WHO PERFORMED THE STUDY, HE'S A CERTIFIED TRAFFIC ENGINEER. YES, PE.
OKAY. AND THEN IS ONE OF THE WARRANTS. COULD IT BE AT THE. AT THE. IF THEY DON'T.
IF YOU DON'T MEET THE FULL 7 OR 8 OR 14 WARRANTS OR WHATEVER THE MUTCD REQUIRES. IS THERE A.
CAN THE CITY ENGINEER, BASED ON HIS INTERPRETATION, PROVIDE ANOTHER. ANOTHER LAYER OF. WE BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD SIGNALIZE IT ON TOP OF THE MUTCD. IN OTHER WORDS, DOES IT MEET THE MUTCD REQUIREMENTS, BUT FROM THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER'S PERSPECTIVE, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS CONDITIONS, ETC.
THAT THE CITY ENGINEER COULD SAY, I THINK WE OUGHT TO STILL SIGNALIZE THIS. OR DOES IT NEED TO MEET THE WARRANTS? THE MUTCD SAYS THAT IT HAS TO MEET AN ENGINEERING STUDY AND IT LAYS OUT WARRANTS.
AND THE MUTCD NATIONAL NOW INCORPORATES SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL OR THE VISION ZERO.
I KNOW THERE IS THE SCHOOL ROUTES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY, THANK YOU, COLE.
ANY QUESTIONS OF MARY REGARDING THE APPLICATION OVERALL? OKAY.
SO, YOU CAN. I CAN'T HEAR YOU THROUGH THE SYSTEM.
YOU KNOW, I EMPATHIZE WITH THE EXISTING RESIDENTS THERE. I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. I THINK THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF MITIGATING AS BEST AS ONE COULD GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCE AND PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THIS PROJECT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MANY YEARS AGO AND WITH A SITE PLAN THAT'S REALLY NOT NEARLY AS GOOD AS THIS SITE PLAN IS. I THINK THE MITIGATION MEASURES THAT HE HAS PROPOSED ARE VERY GOOD. HE MAY BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO FIND FURTHER CONCESSIONS WITHIN THAT. BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S A DISCUSSION BETWEEN.
BETWEEN HIM AND THE NEIGHBORS.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN PERMANENTLY EXCLUDE RESTAURANTS FROM THE APPROVAL. SO NOW I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU.
SO, I'D REDIRECT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY OR MARY AS THE ORDINANCE IS PROPOSED AND THE ORDINANCE STANDS NOW, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED ON THIS PROPERTY. THAT'S WHAT HIS FIRST ZONING APPLICATION WAS, TO ALLOW RESTAURANTS.
THAT'S BEEN DENIED. SO, THIS APPLICATION. THERE IS NO LAND
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USE THAT ALLOWS THAT USE. THEY CANNOT GET A CO. HE COULD NOT GET A BUILDING PERMIT TO PUT IN A KITCHEN. KITCHEN UNLESS HE CAME BACK BEFORE US AND FILED A NEW APPLICATION TO ALLOW THAT USE.AND THAT WOULD TRIGGER THE PROCESS.
THAT WOULD TRIGGER THE PROCESS RE NOTICE, ETC AND FOR THEM TO COMMENT THEM, THE CITIZENS TO COMMENT, WHETHER THEY SUPPORTED THAT OR NOT.
THANK YOU, BOB. THANK YOU, KENT. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS BY THE COMMISSION? YEAH, I HAVE A COUPLE.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS OF THE NEIGHBORS AND THE PICTURES OF THE TRAFFIC WERE VERY HELPFUL. BUT I, IN MY OPINION THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO GO IN THERE, THE TRAFFIC TO ME WOULD BE LIKE A CAR HERE AND A CAR THERE.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CARS SHOWING UP. YOU KNOW, SOMEONE GOES IN FOR A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT OR TO GET THEIR NAILS DONE OR SOMETHING. SO, I DON'T SEE A LOT OF HEAVY TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
EXCUSE ME. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE. HE'S TRIED TO ACCOMMODATE A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS.
SO, LIKE MY FELLOW CHAIRPERSON SAID THERE, I ALSO SUPPORT PROJECT.
OKAY, THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS, ED? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA. I THINK WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY PERSONALLY SEEN THAT AND GOING IN AND OUT. AND I THINK THE REALITY IS THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD HAS YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY FEW ACCESS INGRESS IN EGRESS POINTS THAT ARE AT UNFORTUNATELY NON SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS. AND SO, I, AND I, SO I CAN SEE HOW THAT WOULD BACK, BACK, BACK UP THE TRAFFIC. SO, I EMPATHIZE, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WITH THAT WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, THIS, THE, THE PROPERTY IS ZONE COMMERCIAL AND SO IT, AND IT HAS BEEN ZONED COMMERCIAL. SO THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE CAN BE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ON IT AND THE DEVELOPER HAS, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S TRIED TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO, TO FIND, YOU KNOW, SUITABLE SOLUTIONS. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE OPTION HERE IS THAT OF THE OPTION OF STOPPING THE DEVELOPMENT AND HAVING NOTHING BE DEVELOPED HERE REALLY IS AN OPTION UNLESS THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S GOING TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND SO THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS RIGHTS AND TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY IN ACCORDANCE WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY SAYS IT IS, YOU KNOW, NOT TO REDESIGN. IT IS INTERESTING IN TERMS OF THE, THE, I WAS PARTICULARLY LOOKING AT THE INGRESS AND EGRESS POINTS.
IT MAY HAVE ACTUALLY HELPED TO HAVE A, AN INGRESS POINT OFF OF ARBOR MANOR BECAUSE IT WOULD GIVE THE, IF THE CROSS ACCESS WAS ALLOWED, WOULD GIVE THE RESIDENTS A FURTHER WEST CURB COUNT CUT TO TURN LEFT VERSUS IN FRONT OF THE SPROUTS.
BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT, NOT PROPOSED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION. SO, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT CERTAINLY NOT PROPOSING THAT OR TO DESIGN FROM THIS STANDPOINT. SO YOU KNOW, I, I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY COMING OUT AND EXPRESSING THE, THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE SEEING AND, AND FEELING AND SO FORTH BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM, WE DRIVE THERE WE LOOK AT IT FROM A MAP STANDPOINT, WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE ALL OF THE REAL INPUT. SO, ``I THINK THIS IS VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE ALL OF THAT.
AT CERTAIN POINTS, I THINK IT'S. IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO HOW DO WE MITIGATE SOME OF THE IMPACT? AND I THINK THE ACTIONS TAKEN SO FAR SEEM PRETTY REASONABLE.
MY FEELING HERE IS I KIND OF LOOK LIKE. IT FEELS LIKE FOR SURE, ABSOLUTE DENIAL IS NOT AN OPTION. AND WHAT I KIND OF SEE IN FRONT OF ME IS I SEE A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT COMPROMISE, WHEREAS THE DEVELOPER COULD ALWAYS GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE DETRIMENTAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO THE OVERALL APPEAL. SO, IN MY HEAD, I'M KIND OF CHOOSING BETWEEN THOSE TWO BECAUSE ABSOLUTE DENIAL IS NOT AN OPTION HERE. THEY CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED AND START RIGHT AWAY.
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SO, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE DESPITE IT NOT BEING FAVORABLE TO EVERYBODY, IT CERTAINLY IS A BETTER OPTION THAN THE FALLBACK PLAN. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY HEAD IS.ANY THOUGHTS THERE, SUE? OKAY.
I WILL ADD, YOU KNOW, QUALITY OF LIFE IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT IN MY THOUGHT PROCESS TO ANY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN COPPELL. AND, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE SEEN SOME REALLY GOOD DEVELOPMENTS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN SOME DEVELOPMENTS SUBJECT TO BACKGROUND TRAFFIC, AND THAT'S WHAT'S FLAT OUT HAPPENING HERE. THERE'S BACKGROUND TRAFFIC AS A RESULT OF JUST PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC THAT'S AFFECTING THIS SITE.
THERE'S THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, AS PRESENTED BY A REPUTABLE FIRM, YOU KNOW, IS SHOWING THAT WARRANT DOESN'T MEET WARRANT FOR A SIGNAL. AND SO IT'S SIMPLY JUST DURING THE PEAK HOUR. AND TO.
THAT'S A GREAT COMMENT, JOHN, ABOUT PREVIOUS ZONING ALLOWANCES COULD CREATE A WORSE SITUATION. SO I'M WEIGHING THOSE IN MY MIND. BUT. BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS APPLICANT HAS DONE A LOT TO PRESENT A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL THAT MEETS A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT YOU ALL HAD AS A COMMUNITY. AND, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, DENIAL IS NOT AN OPTION BECAUSE THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO REMIND YOU, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT WHOLE APPLICATION CAME THROUGH, THERE WERE A LOT MORE TREES TAKEN OUT TO THOSE HOMES THAT ARE CURRENT WHERE Y' ALL LIVE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEIR DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, TOO. AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS APPLICANT'S DONE QUITE A BIT TO LANDSCAPE, TO MITIGATE, YOU KNOW, TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATIONS. SO, FOR ME, IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR ME TO CONSIDER THIS APPLICATION AS PRESENTED. THE FINAL THING IS THAT THE TRIP GENERATION THAT IS BEING USED IN THE ANALYSIS IS A HIGHER LEVEL OF COMMERCIAL, SMALLER SQUARE FOOTAGE GENERATES HIGHER TRAFFIC ON A SQUARE FOOT BASIS. SO THERE'S SOME CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES IN THAT TRIP GENERATION. THEN YOU GOT MEDICAL OFFICE, WHICH IS A HIGH GENERATOR IN ITSELF. THAT'S OVER AND ABOVE RETAIL. SO I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF CONSERVATIVE NUMBER CRUNCH PUT INTO THIS, INTO THE ANALYSIS.
BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT THE APPLICANT BRINGS THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER OR HE'S AVAILABLE TO TALK AT COUNCIL WHETHER THIS GOES UP OR DOWN FROM THIS COMMISSION TONIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL BEEN TO TRADER JOE'S OR AT LEAST I HAVE MULTIPLE TIMES WITH MY WIFE AND TRADER JOE'S. THAT ONE OPERATION CREATED SO MUCH TRAFFIC IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I WONDERED WHEN THESE TRIP GENERATION NUMBERS WERE ACTUALLY TAKEN, IF THEY WERE PRE TRADER JOE'S OR POST TRADER JOE'S OR WHATEVER THE TRAFFIC COUNTS WERE DURING SCHOOL TRIP GENERATION IS A FUNCTION OF DATA COMPILED AND PUBLISHED.
PUBLISHED DATA OF TRAFFIC ACTIVITY BY LAND USE TYPE. SO WHEN THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER LOOKS AT IMPACT OF SITE, THEY TAKE THAT. THERE'S A CATEGORY IN THERE FOR TRAFFIC FOR THAT TYPE OF LAND USE.
SO, I FEEL VERY. I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT NOW. THE PICTURES BLOW ME AWAY ABOUT THAT. THE QUEUING. I GOTTA BELIEVE SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING ON IN THAT QUEUING, BUT DON'T KNOW. CAN'T YOU KNOW.
SO ANYWAY, WITH THAT, IS THERE A MOTION BY THE COMMISSION? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE PROJECT PD21 FOR R11C. THE SHOPS AT SANYU LAKE. A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM PD2001 4R 2C TO PD24R 11C TO ALLOW FOR THE DETAILED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OF A 14,480 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL CENTER WITH RETAIL AND MEDICAL USES ON APPROXIMATELY 2.3 ACRES SUBJECT TO STAFF CONDITIONS.
OKAY, THANK YOU, KENT. WE HAVE A COMMISSION. A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HAFEN. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KAMI. WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? PLEASE RESPOND IT SAY AND IRONIZED. I CALL YOUR NAME.
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COMMISSIONER DOBMEIER? AYE.[8. 2026-0287 PUBLIC HEARING: Consider approval of The Shops at Sandy Lake Addition, Lot 1, Block A, Replat, a replat to revise the current plat and associated easements and fire lane configuration, on 2.03 acres of property located at the south side of Sandy Lake Road, approximately 560-ft west of Denton Tap Road, at the request of Peak Coppell, LLC., being represented by Spooner and Associates. STAFF REP.: Mary Paron-Boswell]
OKAY.THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT THIS EVENING. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO TO THE COUNCIL MEETING AND PRESENT YOUR THOUGHTS AGAIN. ITEM SEVEN, OR I'M SORRY, ITEM EIGHT, ON THE AGENDA IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE SHOPS OF SANDY LAKE EDITION LOT 1, BLOCK A REPLAT. A REPLAT TO REVISE THE CURRENT AND ASSOCIATED EASEMENTS AND FIRE LANE CONFIGURATION ON 2.03 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE SOUTH SIDE OF SANDY LAKE ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 560FT WEST OF DENTON TAP ROAD.
AT THE REQUEST OF PEAK COPPELL LLC, BEING REPRESENTED BY SPOONER AND ASSOCIATES, WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION BY MS. MARY PERRONE BOSWELL.
SO, THIS PLAT REQUEST IS A COMPANION ITEM TO THE LAST ITEM, LOT 1 BLOCK A, SHOPS AT SANDY LAKE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
THE PLANT WILL TAKE THE EXISTING LOT, RE PLAT IT TO INCLUDE MUTUAL ACCESS, FIRE LANE AND THEN ANY NECESSARY UTILITY EASEMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 14,480 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING. SO, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE SHOPS AT SANDY LAKES EDITION, LOT 1 BLOCK A SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
ONE, THAT ADDITIONAL COMMENTS MAY BE GENERATED UPON DETAILED ENGINEERING PERMIT REVIEWS.
THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MARY. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BY THE COMMISSION? OKAY.
IS THERE ANYTHING THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION? ALL RIGHT, YOU'RE HERE. WE'LL MAKE YOU WORK.
THIS IS LESS RELEVANT TO THIS ONE, BUT JUST WANTED TO MENTION AFTER THE LAST PRESENTATION WE.
WE OFFERED AT CITY COUNCIL THAT IF THERE WAS A TRAFFIC LIGHT, THAT FOR SOME REASON TRAFFIC COUNTS WERE DIFFERENT AND THERE WAS A REASON FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT, THAT WE'D BE HAPPY TO CONTRIBUTE $100,000 TO THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT. I THINK IT'S A WEIRD THING BECAUSE TRAFFIC IS WHAT THE RESIDENTS SAY, BUT IT'S ALSO WHY RETAIL WANTS TO BE THERE. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE PROPOSE AT CITY COUNCIL. I SHOULD MENTION THAT TODAY, BUT THOUGHT IT WAS RELEVANT.
NOT REALLY RELEVANT TO THIS, BUT THAT WAS MY ONLY CHANCE TO SPEAK.
SO WE WOULD GLADLY. WE WOULD GLADLY CONTRIBUTE $100,000 TO A TRAFFIC LIGHT, BUT IT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CONSIDERATION THERE.
OKAY. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT BY THE COMMISSION? OKAY, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST SEEING.
NONE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY FINAL DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION.
AGAIN. AM I ALLOWED TO TALK NOW? HANG ON A SECOND. HANG ON A SECOND. I TOTALLY FORGOT THAT YOU WERE UP THERE, SO. YEAH, YEAH, I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN IT. YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
WE HAVE A SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HAAS, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BLANKENSHIP. KAMI, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLL TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING OR REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? PLEASE RESPOND BY SAYING IRON EYES. I CALL YOUR NAME.
I'LL APPROVE NON OPPOSED MOTION.
OKAY, IF WE COULD GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.
NILESH BAGARE, 140 JUNIPER DRIVE.
OKAY, SO I APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATIONS FROM EVERYONE TO HEAR US.
THE MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT HERE TODAY FROM MY POINT OF VIEW IS THE TRAFFIC STUDY DONE AND PRESENTED BY THE DEVELOPER AND HIS ENGINEER IS COMPLETELY IN CONTRAST. WE ARE LOOKING AT FATAL VERSUS NON FATAL AND YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF THEIR DATA WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE DATA PRESENTED BY THE COMMUNITY IS VERY SHOCKING. SO I RECOMMEND AND REQUEST ALL MEMBERS OF THIS PNG TEAM TO APPROVE THIS DECISION CONDITIONALLY BY REVIEWING THIS DATA AT THE CLOSEST BEFORE IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL. SECOND THING IS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERSHIP MEETING SHOULD BE SCHEDULED AFTER SCHOOL OPENS BECAUSE THE DATA NEEDS TO BE STUDIED WHEN THE SCHOOL IS AT THE PEAK. WHEN WE PICK THESE PICTURES. THESE ARE THE PICTURES TAKEN AT DIFFERENT HOURS AND THE PEAK TIMES. AND AS WE SAID FROM ALL OF US, WE ARE NOT EXACTLY OPPOSING THE SHOPS. BUT THE DISCOMFORT WHICH IS ALREADY CAUSED
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BY PNZ'S DECISIONS FOR THE SHOPS ON THE OTHER SIDES OF OUR COMMUNITY HAS ALREADY PUT LOT OF HOMEOWNERS AT DISCOMFORT.SO WHEN YOU'RE APPROVING THIS PLANNING BY THIS DEVELOPER BY CHOOSING BETWEEN THIS DESIGN VERSUS OLD DESIGN, YOU KNOW, OLD DESIGN WOULD STILL PUT THEM AT EASE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO FACE THE WALL. IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE PICTURES CLOSELY FROM THE PRESENTATION, RIGHT.
THE ARBOR MANOR DRIVE WAS A CONCEPTUAL. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE OLD PD NEEDS TO HAVE ACCESS ON ARBOR MANOR'S DRIVE. THE FOOTPRINT ON THIS 2 ACRE PARCEL LOT IS 15,000 SQUARE FOOT IS A LOT. I THINK THE THEME HERE IS OVERLOOKING THE IMPACT OF THE. OKAY, SO I THINK YOUR APPROVAL IS VERY ONE SIDED. I FEEL ALL OF YOU HAVE OVERLOOKED THE CONSIDERATIONS OF TRAFFIC STUDIES AND DATA POINT WHAT WE HAVE PROVIDED. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR BONE OF CONTENTION. I APPRECIATE THE GESTURE OF THE DEVELOPER TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION OF SIGNAL WHICH WE NEED TO HAVE TO THROTTLE THE TRAFFIC THE COMING FROM WHISPERING HILL LIGHT UP TO THE DENTON DAMP LIGHT. SO WHEN YOU APPROVE THIS CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONER, I WOULD REQUEST YOU TO PUT THOSE COMMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION. THAT WILL BE A BIG GESTURE TOWARDS OUR SAFETY. THANK YOU.
OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED APPLICATION? OKAY, SEEING NONE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, FINAL DISCUSSION. I WILL ADD THAT THIS IS WE'RE CONSIDERING THE PLAT. WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THE APPLICATION PER SE. BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT TALKING ABOUT CONTRIBUTING MITIGATION MONIES TOWARD THAT INTERSECTION. AND YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS SHOULD BE PRESENTED AS WELL, PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO ASK STAFF TO MENTION THE COMMENTS OF THE $100,000 IN THEIR NEXT STAFF REPORT? IT'LL BE IN THE RECORD.
DOES THAT. OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION FOR THE ITEM EIGHT ON THE AGENDA? I'LL MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE SHOPS AT SANDY LAKE ADDITION LOT ONE BLOCK A REPLAT.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DOB.
MYERS CLARIFICATION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS.
SUBJECT TO STAFF TERMS AND CONDITIONS.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DOBMEIER. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BLANKENSHIP. KAMMI, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? PLEASE SAY AN IRON EYES. I CALL YOUR NAME. COMMISSIONER DOBMEIER.
CHAIRMAN HAAS? AYE COMMISSIONER MAURER.
OKAY, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIRMAN. YES, MA'AM.
[9. Update on City Council items.]
I BELIEVE KAMI HAS SOMETHING SHE NEEDS.I WAS GOING TO CATCH HER HERE UNDER THE. UNDER THE. ITEM NINE. SO ITEM NINE ON THE AGENDA IS THE UPDATE TO CITY COUNCIL ITEMS. WE DID REVIEW THOSE ITEMS IN PRE SESSION, BUT.
BUT WE DO HAVE A COMMENT BY KAMI MCGEE. KAMI, IF YOU COULD ADD THE COMMENT FOR THE RECORD THERE.
YEAH, IT WAS JUST THAT THE APPLICATION PERIOD FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WILL BE OPENING AUGUST 3RD AND CLOSING ON SEPTEMBER 4TH THIS YEAR. AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER BISHOP AND COMMISSIONER HAFEMANN MIGHT BE DUE FOR REAPPLICATION IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO. BUT CITY SECRETARY WILL BE EMAILING INFORMATION.
JUST SEEMED LIKE IT WOULD BE THREE. IT'S FOUR THEN THREE THERE.
IS THERE SOME? YEAH, BUT I ALSO THINK WE LOST ONE AND SOMEONE CAME IN AND.
I DON'T. CITY. THE CITY SECRETARY AUGUST 3RD THROUGH SEPTEMBER 4TH, WHICH IS A LITTLE EARLIER THIS YEAR THAN USUAL.
OKAY, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, KAMI. MARY, ANY OTHER STAFF COMMENTS? OKAY, ITEM 10 IS ADJOURNMENT. IF THERE'S NO OTHER FINAL THOUGHTS ON TONIGHT'S PROCEEDINGS, I WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING.
THE TIME IS 8:07.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.