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6 0 2, THE AUGUST 6TH MEETING OF THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION IS NOW IN SESSION.
THE, UH, WORK SESSION IS NOW IN SESSION.
WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESIDENT IN THE WORK ROOM.
BUILDING STANDARDS IS NOW, IS IS AN ORDER OF WORK SESSION IN THE START OF THE ROLL CALL IN THE NIGHT.
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO BEGIN WORK SESSION IDENTIFIED ON ITEM TWO, THE AGENDA.
UH, SO I'LL TURN OVER THE WORK SESSION TO STEVE SHEER, THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL.
DAVE, YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN LA MY NAME IS STEVE SHEER, THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR THE CITY OF CAPEL.
UH, TONIGHT I'M ALSO JOINED BY, UH, MEMBERS OF CITY STAFF.
WE HAVE, UH, MATTHEW STEER, WHO IS OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICE ADMINISTRATOR, AND WE HAVE JACQUELINE DUNS, WHO IS OUR SECRETARY AND HELPS KEEPS US FUNCTIONING.
UM, ANYTHING, UM, I, IF YOU GUYS ARE READY, THEN, UH, WE CAN GO STRAIGHT TO THE PRESENTATION.
LET'S GO STRAIGHT TO THE PRESENTATION.
WELL, AS I STATED, I'M STEVE CHU, CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR THE CITY OF CAPEL.
UH, PRESENTING TO YOU THE PROPOSED ADOPTION OF THE 2026 NATIONAL AL CODE.
WE REFER TO IT AS THE, ANY, THE ADOPTION OF THE 2026 NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE IS PROPOSED FOR THE APPROVAL OF BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION, WHICH IN TURN, YOU GUYS WILL BE MAKING THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND IT TO MOVE FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CITY COUNCIL'S REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
UH, REAL QUICK, AGAIN, EVERY THREE YEARS, ALL NEW CODE BOOK COMES OUT.
UH, NEXT ADDITIONAL WILL BE THE 2029 NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE, WHICH THEY ACTUALLY ARE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF WRITING THAT UP.
SO, UH, THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT LICENSE AND REGULATION IS OVER ALL LICENSURE FOR ELECTRICIANS IN THE STATE.
UH, PART AND PARCEL OF WHAT THEY FUNCTION OFF OF IS THE TEXAS OCCUPATIONS CODE, UH, SPECIFICALLY CHAPTER 1305, I BELIEVE, WHICH IS FOR LICENSED ELECTRICIANS.
UM, UNDER TITLE EIGHT, CHAPTER 13 0 5 1 0 1, IT REQUIRES THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TDLR TO ADOPT THE LATEST VERSION OF THE NEC.
AS IT BECOMES AVAILABLE, THEIR YEAR STARTS ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.
SO EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST OF THIS YEAR, THE STATE IS GOING TO BE ENFORCED IN THE 2026 NATIONAL LIFT FULL CODE.
AND OUR ADOPTION NOT ONLY BRINGS US IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE STATE, BUT IT ALSO PROVIDES US A STEP UP FOR WHEN WE GET AUDITED BY THE ISO.
THE ISO IS AN INSURANCE RATING COMPANY, AND THEY RATE US BASED ON HOW KNOWLEDGEABLE WE ARE, HOW MANY CERTIFICATIONS WE HAVE, AND HOW RECENT OUR CODE ADOPTIONS ARE.
THE HIGHER WE RATE THE LOWER INSURANCE RATES OUR RESIDENTS PAY, AND THAT'S WHERE OUR RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
SO, PART OF ALL OF THIS IS A REMINDER THAT WHAT I'M PROPOSING TO YOU IS MY AMENDMENTS TO THE ELECTRICAL CODES.
YOU GUYS ARE NOT HERE TO REVIEW THE ELECTRICAL CODES.
YOU KNOW, I, IN ORDER TO GET AN INTERNSHIP AND REACH THE POINT WHERE YOU HAVE ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE NA NATIONAL AL CODE TO UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING ABOUT IT, THAT'S A COUPLE OF YEARS.
MY JOB IS TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THE CODE.
IF I BRING A PROPOSAL TO YOU ALL FOR AMENDING A SECTION OF THE CODE, WHETHER IT'S THE ELECTRICAL OR THE BUILDING CODE, WHATEVER IT IS, THEN I'LL PRESENT TO YOU GUYS THE DATA THAT YOU GUYS NEED FOR THAT PARTICULAR PORTION IN ORDER TO MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION.
OUR CURRENT PRACTICES, OF COURSE, WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDERNEATH THE 2023 NATIONAL ELIGIBLE CODE, SAME AS THE STATE.
CODE EDITION, THERE ARE ALWAYS CHANGES.
UH, IT CHANGES FROM A 23 TO 26 OVER OVERALL, THERE'S OVER 1100 CHANGES FOR THOSE TWO CODES.
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STEAL INFORMATION FROM A, UH, ELECTRICAL CONTRACT IN CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE MAGAZINE.IT'S WRITTEN BY MIKE HOLT, MIKE HOLT.
FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH HIM, HE IS IN HIS, IF YOU NEED GOD'S GIFT TO ELECTRICAL, A, UH, A BUDDY OF MINE WHO IS A MASTER ELECTRICIAN, AS WELL AS A BUILDING OFFICIAL, THE WAY HE LIKES TO PHRASE IT IS, UH, EVERYTHING THAT MY FAULT SAYS IS THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE.
ACCORDING TO MY CULT, NOT EXACTLY WHAT THE CODE SAYS, BUT MY FAULT IS ABSOLUTELY AN AUTHORITY ON ELECTRICAL STUFF.
IF YOU EVER HAVE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ELECTRICAL STUFF, YOU ALWAYS LOOK AT MIKE HOLT'S WEBSITE.
UH, HE'S PUBLISHED HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF BOOKS.
HE WRITES MAGAZINE ARTICLES ALL THE TIME.
HE IS HIGHLY KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THIS, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I CHOSE TO STEAL FROM HIS MAGAZINE ARTICLE.
IN ORDER TO GIVE YOU GUYS JUST A QUICK IDEA OF SOME OF THE DIFFERENT CHANGES, UH, THIS ONE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
UM, NO MATTER WHAT, WHEN YOU HAVE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT'S BEING CONNECTED TO AN ELECTRICAL SYSTEM, IT HAS TO BE LISTED.
LISTED MEANS THAT IT'S GONE THROUGH A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED TESTING LABORATORY, UH, SOMETHING LIKE UL OR, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, INTERTECH.
IT, IT IS SOMEBODY WHO HAS A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED TESTING LABORATORY THAT HAS PUT IT THROUGH A SERIES OF TESTS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES MEET MINIMUM SAFETY REQUIREMENTS.
SOMETIMES THE MANUFACTURER'S INSTALLATION METHODS CONFLICT WITH THE BUILDING CODES.
SO IF THE MANUFACTURER'S INSTALLATION METHODS FOR THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT DIRECTLY CONFLICTS WITH THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE, NO MATTER WHAT THE MOST RESTRICTIVE WOULD PREVAIL.
SO IF, UH, THE MANUFACTURER'S INSTALLATION METHOD CONFLICTS, THEN WE WOULD GO WITH THE ELECTRICAL CODE.
IF THE ELECTRICAL CODE CONFLICTS WITH THE MECHANICAL OR THE OP MANUFACTURER'S INSTALLATION METHOD, WE DEFER TO THE MANUFACTURER.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHICH ONE'S MORE RESTRICTIVE, AND THAT'S OUR WAY OF MAKING SURE THAT IT MEETS MINIMUM SAFETY STANDARDS.
UH, ONE OF THE HARDEST ISSUES FOR A, UH, INSPECTOR IS NOBODY HAS THE INSTALLATION MANUALS WHEN WE GO OUT AND DO OUR INSPECTIONS, WELL, NOWADAYS, JUST ABOUT EVERY MANUFACTURER HAS QUICK LITTLE QR CODES ON THE SIDE OF THE EQUIPMENT.
WE CAN SCAN IT WITH OUR PHONES, PULL IT UP, TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S INSTALLED APPROPRIATELY.
UH, THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS SPLITTING UP ELECTRICAL SERVICES.
UH, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT COLORED CONDUCTORS COMING THROUGH THERE, AND THAT JUST DISTRIBUTES THE ELECTRICAL, UH, THROUGHOUT AND BUILDING.
QUESTION DOES, DOES, DOES THE CODE ITSELF REQUIRE THE QR CODE? NO, IT DOES NOT, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE THE, UH, MANUFACTURER'S INSTRUCTIONS BE AVAILABLE.
SO IF AN INSTALLER LEADS IT OUT, BUT THE QR CODE IS THERE, THEN WE HAVE AN AUTOMATIC WAY TO BE ABLE SCAN IT.
OTHERWISE, IT, IT'S, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S A FAILED SATISFACTION.
SO COME IN, PUT IN NEW, UM, WHO NEED TO BE ON MY POOL EQUIPMENT.
I ASSUME IT'S FOR THE INSPECTOR TO LOOK AT.
WELL, IT SHOULD ACTUALLY BE BOTH, BECAUSE IT, IT IS YOUR JOB TO MAINTAIN THAT EQUIPMENT UNLESS YOU CHOOSE TO PAY THEM THE MONTHLY FEE FOR THEM TO COME OUT AND GET I UNDERSTAND.
BUT I, I, I WAS WONDERING WHY THEY DO THAT NOW.
NOW, THE, THE INSPECTOR SHOULD ALWAYS BE AWARE OF WHAT THE MANUFACTURER'S INSTALLATION METHOD IS FOR ANY EQUIPMENT THAT'S TRUE FOR YOUR WATER HEATER, YOUR HVAC SYSTEM.
EVERY SINGLE MANUFACTURER OF ANY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT HAS DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING IT THAN EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND SO THE CHANGE THERE REALLY IS THAT THE MANUAL IS NOT REQUIRED.
'CAUSE THE QR CODES MAKE IT EASIER TO ACCESS IT.
IT HAS, IT HAS TO BE THERE IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
AND IF, LET'S SAY THEY DO HAVE THE QR CODE AVAILABLE ON THE SIDE OF THE EQUIPMENT, AND THE INSPECTOR GOES OUT AND FAILS THE INSPECTION BECAUSE THE INSTALLATION OR THE INSTALLATION MANUAL WASN'T AVAILABLE.
WELL, NOW THE ELECTRICIAN GOES YEAH, RIGHT HERE ON THIS SIDE, RIGHT HERE ON THIS STICKER.
ALL YOU TO DO IS SCAN THE STICKER AND YOU HAVE THE INSTRUCTIONS.
SO, SO THE CHANGE IS REALLY JUST KIND OF UPDATING TO THE AVAILABILITY OF THE INFORMATION MAKES IT SMOOTHER PROCESS.
AS WELL AS IDENTIFYING THE FACT THAT IF THERE IS A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE MANUAL AND THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE, MOST RESTRICTIVE WILL PERMIT.
UH, THIS ONE, THIS IS SWITCHGEAR, UH, SWITCHGEAR.
PRIMARILY, YOU'LL RUN INTO STUFF LIKE THIS AT LIKE SCHOOLS, LARGE INDUSTRIAL INSTALLATIONS.
THIS IS DEALING WITH HIGH VOLTAGE.
THE, THE VERY BOTTOM PARAGRAPH, THE REASON THE ARC FLASH LABEL IS NOT REQUIRED, OR, SORRY, NOT THAT ONE WHERE, UH, GOING RIGHT ABOVE AUTHOR'S COMMENT, AN ARC FLASH EVENT CAN REACH TEMPERATURES OF 35,000 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT, WHICH TURNS METAL FROM A SOLID TO GAS VAPORS.
THIS RELEASES MOLTEN SHRAPNEL THAT PIERCES THE SKIN CAUSING SEVERE BURNS OR EVEN DEATHS.
SO THE REQUIREMENT, HE SCRATCHED OUT THE RATED 1000 AMP OR MORE, IT'S ACTUALLY STILL IN THERE.
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BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT, IT HAS CHANGED THE FORMAT FOR THOSE WARNING LABELS SO THAT, UH, THE MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL AT THE SCHOOL OR THAT INDUSTRIAL INSTALLATION HAVE, UH, A MORE READILY AVAILABLE IDENTIFICATION OF HOW DANGEROUS TO THE PANEL THEY'RE ABOUT TO REMOVE POTENTIALLY IS, UH, RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.LIKE IT SAYS IN THE, THE LAST PARAGRAPH, YOU'LL NEVER SEE THESE ON SOMEBODY'S HOUSE BECAUSE NOBODY'S HOUSE SHOULD BE RUNNING THAT KIND OF VOLTAGE.
IF THEY ARE, WELL, THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENT ISSUE.
THAT'S A HOME OPERATED BUSINESS, AND THEY PROBABLY HAVE SOME HEAVY EQUIPMENT GOING.
AND, UM, ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE CHANGES GOING INTO THE 2023 NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE WAS FOR ANY HALL WHERE THE KITCHEN ISLAND OR PENINSULA COULD NOT HAVE SIDE MOUNTED RECEPTACLES.
THERE'S A LOT OF CONJECTURE THROUGHOUT THE INDUSTRY THAT, THAT WAS BEING DRIVEN BY THE MANUFACTURERS OF THE POPUP RECEPTACLES.
THEY'RE EXCEEDINGLY EXPENSIVE.
GO TO LOWE'S OR HOME DEPOT, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT A REGULAR RECEPTACLE FOR A, UM, REGULAR WALL MOUNT, WHAT HAVE YOU.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE BETWEEN FIVE BUCKS AND 15 BUCKS, DEPENDING ON HOW EXPENSIVE YOU WANT TO GO.
YOU START LOOKING AT THOSE POPUPS.
THOSE POPUPS USUALLY START AT ABOUT 85 BUCKS.
YOUR AVERAGE PAYOUT FOR A, UH, POPUP RECEPTACLE IS ABOUT 180.
BUT UNDERNEATH THE 2026, THEY ARE GOING TO ALLOW SIDE AMOUNT OF RECEPTACLES ONCE AGAIN, BUT NOT WITHIN 24 INCHES OF THAT COUNTERTOP.
SO THE ONE THAT THEY HAVE IN THE IMAGE, YOU COULDN'T HAVE A RECEPTACLE THERE.
IF IT WAS BELOW THAT LINE, DOWN IN THE BLUE SPACE, IT COULD BE THERE.
SO IT FILLS THE WALL SPACE WITH HARM, NOT A COUNTERTOP OF ALARM.
WELL, THE, THE, THE MAIN FEAR WAS SMALL CHILDREN BE ABLE TO GRAB ONTO CORDS AND BE ABLE TO PULL DOWN LIKE A HOT CROCK POT PIECE OF A, UH, APPLIANCE, WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, THIS DOESN'T REALLY CHANGE THAT SAVE A BIT EASIER, UH, IN MY OPINION.
I'M KIND INTO BUSINESS, UM, WITH PENINSULAS AND THE ISLANDS.
IF YOU WERE TO PUT A BACK SPLASH ON ONE, THEN YOU COULD HAVE YOUR COUNTERTOP RECEPTACLES EVERY TWO FEET.
WELL, AS A MATTER OF FACT, YEAH.
SO IF, UH, YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, INFOGRAPHIC THAT'S IN THE 2023 NATIONAL AL CODE, UH, FOUR DWELLING UNITS, IT ACTUALLY DOES HAVE THAT GRAPHIC ON THERE.
IT SHOWS, IT SHOWS A, A, UH, ISLAND WITH THE BACKSPLASH AND KIND OF A SMALL BAR TOP AND IDENTIFIES THE RECEPTACLES BEING THERE ON THAT BACKSPLASH, THAT ELIMINATION, STARTING A LOT OF TRAVEL WITH
UH, I, I BELIEVE THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY WILL BE HAPPY THAT WE'RE GOING BACK TO THIS.
SO THIS CHANGE WILL ONLY APPLY TO NEW PERMITS ISSUED AFTER SEPTEMBER 1ST.
UH, ANY, YOU KNOW, SO AT A STATE LEVEL, YES.
AGAIN, IF FOR WHATEVER REASON WE DECIDED WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADOPT THE 2026 NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE THAT WE'RE GONNA STICK WITH THE 2023 NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THIS.
THEY'LL HAVE TO STICK WITH THE POPUPS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO WITH THE MOST RESTRICTIVE, AND HAVING POPUP ONLY WOULD BE THE MOST RESTRICTIVE.
BUT, UM, IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ADOPTION, ONCE IT'S APPROVED BY COUNSEL, UH, IN THEORY, WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.
AND YES, ANY PERMIT APPLIED FOR AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE WOULD ADHERE TO THIS CODE, NOT THE CURRENT CODE.
SO TODAY'S WORLD, THERE'S POPUP ONLY.
THIS ONE ALLOWS YOU TO PUT IT ON THE SIDE.
BUT YOU STILL HAVE A, A REQUIREMENT FOR RECEPTACLE LOCATION DISTANCES.
THIS ONE'S UTIL UTILIZING A PENINSULA.
YOU HAVE THESE RECEPTACLES UP HERE AT THE END OF THE PENINSULA WHERE THE WALL IS.
SO THEY HAVE REQUIRED RECEPTACLES ON HERE ALREADY.
THIS ONE, THEY CAN BYPASS AS BEING A REQUIRED RECEPTACLE SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT THOSE UP THERE.
SO THEY, THEY'RE, IT IS A BIT OF A GAME.
UM, THIS ONE OVER HERE, THERE, I GUARANTEE YOU THERE'S GONNA BE A RECEPTACLE ON THIS SIDE OF THE PENINSULA BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO FAR AWAY FROM THAT WALL.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE MORE RECEPTACLES ON THIS SIDE, SO LONG AS IT IS, AGAIN, GREATER THAN 24 INCHES DOWN FROM THE COUNTERTOP, THEY CAN HAVE THAT.
AND THIS, UH, SO IF YOU BUY OR SELL YOUR HOUSE, UM, THIS DOESN'T REALLY APPLY BECAUSE ALREADY IN PLACE.
SO, UH, WHEN YOU GO TO SELL A HOME OR PURCHASING A HOME, IT'S REQUIRED TO BE INSPECTED BY A LICENSED TEXAS REAL ESTATE COMMISSION INSPECTOR.
THEY HAVE SET CRITERIA BY STATE LAW THAT THEY HAVE TO ADHERE TO.
THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LICENSING REQUIREMENTS, THEIR OWN EXAM REQUIREMENTS, AND THEIR OWN REQUIREMENTS FOR WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT ON A HOME.
AND THIS GENTLEMAN RIGHT HERE CAN EXPOUND ON THAT MUCH BETTER THAN I CARED TO.
WELL, BASICALLY WHAT IT IS, WE HAVE, WE HAVE RULES FOR, FOR, FOR PURCHASING, BUT WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT CODE INSPECTORS.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT WAS, IF IT WAS OKAY WHEN THE HOUSE WAS BUILT, IT'S OKAY.
WHAT WE, WHAT WE REQUIRED TO DO IS REQUIRED TO LET OUR BUYER KNOW
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IT DOESN'T MEET CURRENT REQUIREMENTS.AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO UPGRADE IT, BUT IT'S, IT'S, AS LONG AS THIS HASN'T BEEN DISTURBED SINCE IT WAS PUT IN, IT'S FINE.
AND THEN ALSO, SINCE I'M NEWER TO THE COMMITTEE THERE, SOME TIME AGO IN COPPEL, THERE WAS TALK ABOUT EVERY TIME A RENTAL HOUSE FLIPPED TENANTS THAT THEY HAD TO BRING IT UP TO CODE.
DID THAT EVER WELL, THAT, THAT'S A, A DIFFERENT ISSUE.
THAT'S THEIR CO OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM.
AND WHAT THEY DO IS RENTAL INSPECTIONS, AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SET CRITERIA FOR RENTALS.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE TO BRING EVERYTHING UP TO CURRENT BUILDING CODES.
YOU HAVE TO BRING IT UP TO CURRENT OCCUPANCY CODES, WHICH WOULD BE THROUGH OUR, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS.
IT, IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE RENTAL FEE.
UH, WATER HEATERS, YOU KNOW, CODE CHANGES EVERY THREE YEARS.
YOUR WATER HEATER DOES NOT HAVE TO BE UPGRADED EVERY THREE YEARS.
BUT WHEN YOUR WATER HEAT IS READY TO BE REPLACED AND IT HAS TO BE REPLACED, THEN IT HAS TO BE CURRENT CODES.
UM, WHAT ELSE WOULD INCLUDE REMODELING? IF YOU REMODEL YOUR KITCHEN, THEN YOU WOULD'VE TO BRING IT UP, CORRECT.
E EVERYTHING HAS TO BE MAINTAINED ACCORDING TO THE CODES THAT WERE IN PLACE AT THE TIME OF ORIGINAL INSTALLATION.
WHEN IT CAN NO LONGER BE MAINTAINED AND IT HAS TO BE REPLACED, THAT'S WHEN IT HAS TO BE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS.
BUT IN THAT INSTANCE, IF PULL A PERMIT, UH, THAT THE KEY, IF YOU PULL A PERMIT, IT'S GOTTA BE UP TO CODE.
IF YOU'RE GENERAL, THE LITTLE THINGS YOU'RE DOING HAS TO BE, IF, IF THE SCOPE OF WORK YOU'RE DOING IS REGULATED BY THE CODES, THEN IT HAS TO BE PERMITTED INSIDE.
AND THE DATE THAT YOU PULLED THE PERMIT IS LOCKED.
THAT EVERYTHING THE, THAT APPLIES, OR THAT SETS THE DATE OF WHICH CODES APPLIED EXACTLY WHEN, WHENEVER YOU APPLY FOR IT.
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY, REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOT LET A PERMIT EXPIRE.
UM, I'VE GOT PLENTY OF LOCATIONS WHERE THEY PULL A PERMIT WHEN WE'RE STILL UNDERNEATH THE 2015 CODES.
WELL, THEY LET THOSE PERMITS EXPIRE.
NOW THEY NEED TO FINISH 'EM OUT.
AND THEY'RE HAVING TO REAPPLY UNDERNEATH 2024 CODES.
SO THEY'RE HAVING TO TAKE A STRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY BUILT UNDER 2015 CODES AND REDO IT TO MEET THE 2024 REQUIREMENTS.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU NEVER, EVER, EVER LET A PERMIT EXPIRE.
UH, WE EXIST HERE TO PROVIDE HELP.
IF YOU'VE RUN INTO HURDLES WITH PROJECT OR SOMETHING, YOU NEED AN EXTENSION, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS EMAIL ME AND SAY, HEY STEVE, I NEED MORE TIME.
I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO CLOSE OUT MY PROJECT.
AND I'LL SAY, WELL, FANTASTIC.
I'VE EXTENDED FOR ANOTHER 180 DAYS.
'CAUSE THAT'S MY, THAT'S AS FAR IN THE FUTURE AS I CAN GO AS 180 DAYS.
BUT THERE'S REALLY NO LIMIT TO HOW MANY TIMES I CAN EXTEND A PERF DOES THIS RULE STILL APPLY IF THERE'S CABINETRY ON THIS SIDE? YES.
SO IT CAN'T BE ABOVE THE CABINETRY? NO, NOT UNDERNEATH CURRENT CODES.
IF IT'S ALREADY THERE AND IT MET THE CODES AT THE TIME THAT IT WAS INSTALLED, WE'RE GOODWILL.
IF THIS WOULD BE A COMPLETE REMODEL OR GROUND UP CONSTRUCTION, SOMETHING WHERE YOU'VE TAKEN OUT WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY EXISTING AND YOU'RE REPLACING IT, THEN IT HAS THEM.
AND THIS WILL, THIS WILL NOT, JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS IS NOT GOING TO AFFECT WHEN YOU HAVE OVERHEAD CABINETS WITH POWER STRIPS ON THERE.
THAT DOESN'T AFFECT THAT THOUGH.
UH, I JUST, JUST, HOPEFULLY THOSE POWER STRIPS ARE INSTALLED PROPERLY.
I, I, UNFORTUNATELY, I'VE SEEN QUITE A FEW.
YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST CAME OVER TO THE GOVERNMENT SECTOR FROM THE, THE, UH, PRIVATE SECTOR, I'M GOING OUT ON AN INSPECTION WITH A, UH, ONE OF THE SENIOR INSPECTORS, AND I'M LIKE, BUT MARK, WHAT ABOUT THAT? HE'S LIKE, DON'T LOOK AT IT.
WHAT ABOUT THAT? DON'T LOOK AT IT.
SO, UH, HENCE THE PHRASE, IT'S INSPECTOR BLANKS.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WALKING, MY WIFE HATES IT.
YOU GO OUT SOMEWHERE, WE, THE AIRPORT'S THE WORST ONE GOING THROUGH LIKE CHICAGO O'HARE SITTING IN A RESTAURANT EATING, GOING, CAN'T DO THAT.
NEED AN ENGINEER TO LOOK AT THAT.
SO THIS IS A PORTION THAT, UH, REALLY IS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE HERE FOR.
UH, THESE ARE THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE ITSELF.
OUR ORDINANCE PORTIONS OF IT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE.
I'VE CHANGED SOME PORTIONS WHEN WE ADOPTED THE 2023 CODES.
AND, UH, I'M TRYING TO FINISH UP UPDATING OUR ORDINANCE WITH, UH, THIS CHANGE STARTING OUT.
OF COURSE, THE VERY FIRST SECTION, ALL I'M DOING IS CHANGING OUT THE REFERENCE TO THE 2023 CODES TO THE 2026.
MOVING ON FROM THERE, WE HAVE, UH, EIGHT ENFORCEMENTS B SUPERVISION.
NEITHER OF THOSE HAVE CHANGED.
HOWEVER, I HAVE GOTTEN RID OF THE SECTION C INTENTION.
THIS CODE IS NOT INTENDED AS A DESIGN SPECIFICATION OR INSTRUCTION
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MANUAL FOR UNTRAINED PERSONS.UM, I DON'T SEE WHY THAT WAS IN THERE.
THAT DOESN'T SERVE REALLY ANY PURPOSE.
AND THAT'S NOT REALLY ANYTHING THAT WE DICTATE.
AND THEN RELATION TO OTHER INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS, I'VE, I'M PROPOSING TO HAVE THAT REMOVED AS WELL.
THE REQUIREMENTS IN THIS CODE ADDRESS THE FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES OF PROTECTION FOR SAFETY CONTAINED IN SECTION 1 31 OF THE INTERNATIONAL ELECTRO TECHNICAL COMMISSION STANDARDS.
6 0 3 6 4 DASH ONE ELECTRICAL INSTALLATIONS OF BUILDINGS, UM, THAT HAS NOT BEEN PRINTED SINCE 1947.
SO, OF COURSE, WITH GETTING RID OF SECTIONS AND REDOING IT, WHAT WAS SECTION E IS NOW? SECTION C.
UM, REALLY THE VERBIAGE HERE HAS NOT CHANGED A WHOLE LIVES EXCEPT I'VE GOT RID OF THE REFERENCES TO ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR.
'CAUSE WE DON'T EMPLOY ELECTRICAL INSPECTORS.
WE DON'T HAVE ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR, WE DON'T HAVE A PLUMBING INSPECTOR.
WE HAVE COMBINATION INSPECTORS.
YOU GOT ONE PERSON COMING OUT LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE SCOPE OF FERENCE TO ELECTRICAL IN INSPECTOR OR INSPECTOR SLASH ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR THAT JUST QUANTIFIES THAT INSPECTOR, ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR.
AND THIS CODE SHALL MEET THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL OR DESIGNEE AUTHORIZED FOR INSPECTIONS.
'CAUSE THAT'S MY JOB, RIGHT? OF ENTRY.
UH, I'VE STREAMLINED THIS SECTION, BUT I, FOR THE MOST PART, IT, IT READS JUST ABOUT THE SAME.
I DID GET RID OF THE, UH, VERY ENDING PARAGRAPH SIMPLY BECAUSE THE FIRST PARAGRAPH ALREADY ENDS.
AND IF ENTRY IS REFUSED, THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL OR DESIGNEE SHALL HAVE RECOURSE TO THE REMEDIES PROVIDED BY LAW TO SECURE ENTRY.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR US TO QUANTIFY THAT.
UH, THE CHIEF BILLING OFFICIAL IS GOING TO GO FOR A WARRANT.
IT'S ALREADY STATED THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE RECOURSE PROVIDED BY THE LAW.
SO THAT WAS EXTREMELY REDUNDANT.
WHAT IS A SCENARIO WHERE SOMEONE MIGHT BE DENIED ENTRY? LIKE USUALLY A BUILDING INSPECTOR IS YOU'RE SCHEDULING SOMEONE TO COME ACTUALLY DO THE INSPECTION FOR YOU.
ARE THERE SURPRISE INSPECTIONS OR NO? NO.
UM, SO WE GET REFUSE INSPECTIONS A LOT.
UM, GEN THE CONTRACTOR BY LAW AND THEY HAVE A PERMIT, OR, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LICENSE GUYS, MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, AND PLUMBING CONTRACTORS, THEY HAVE A STATE LICENSE THAT'S IN JEOPARDY IF THEY DON'T COMPLY WITH LOCAL REQUIREMENTS.
SO MOST FREQUENTLY IT'S MECHANICAL CONTRACTORS.
WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GAIN ENTRY BECAUSE THE RESIDENT DOESN'T WANT US IN THEIR HOME.
IF IT'S A SIGNIFICANT SCOPE OF WORK, SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL POTENTIALLY CAUSES A LIFE SAFETY RISK, I IMMEDIATE LIFE SAFETY RISK, SUCH AS LIKE A GAS FREE PIPE, THEN YES, I AM GOING TO SEEK SOME FORM OF LEGAL REMEDY TO BE ABLE TO GAIN ACCESS TO ENSURE THAT THAT GAS SYSTEM IS NOT GOING TO BLOW UP THAT STRUCTURE.
SO IF THERE'S AN IMMEDIATE DANGER OR SAFETY ISSUE, NO.
UM, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE ONLY TIMES I GO FOR WARRANTS IS WHEN I'M GOING TO IDENTIFY A STRUCTURE AS, UH, DILAPIDATED AND SUBSTANDARD.
THAT THOSE ARE THE ONES I'VE ONLY EVER REALLY GONE OUT ON A WARRANT ON I TO THIS DAY.
LUCKILY, I HAVE NOT HAD TO GO OUT AND DO A WARRANT JUST FOR A REGULAR INSPECTION STOP WORK ORDERS.
THIS VERGE, WE'VE ACTUALLY TAKEN BASICALLY FROM THE, UH, THE BUILDING CODES, THE BUILDING CODES THEMSELVES.
ANYTHING PUT OUT BY THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL ALL READS A CERTAIN WAY THAT VERBIAGE IS NOT PART OF THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE.
BECAUSE THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE IS NOT PUT OUT BY THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL.
IT'S PUT OUT BY THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION AGENCY.
SO THE NFPA HAS THEIR OWN WAY OF VERBING THINGS, AND WE'RE PUTTING THIS IN, IN ORDER TO MAKE IT ALIGN WITH BUILDING CODES BETTER, BASICALLY, AND AUTHORITY TO DISCONNECT UTILITIES AND EMERGENCIES.
THIS IS PART AND PARCEL OF EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
I DID GET RID OF A REFERENCE IN HERE.
ELECTRIC CONNECTION FOR SECTION 85 DASH SIX B, BECAUSE SECTION 85 DASH SIX B DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE, THAT HAS NOT BEEN IN EXISTENCE IN ABOUT 40 YEARS.
AND THEN ADDING IN, UH, NOTIFY THE SERVING UTILITY OWNER OCCUPANT OF THE BUILDING, STRUCTURAL OR BUILDING SERVICE EQUIPMENT AND WRITING SUCH DISCONNECTION IMMEDIATELY THEREAFTER.
SO THE AUTHORITY TO CONDEMN ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS AND EQUIP, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT WE DO.
UM, WE GO OUT AND WE WILL FREQUENTLY FIND WORK THAT IS BEING PERFORMED WITHOUT BENEFIT OF PERMITS OR INSPECTIONS.
AND WE WILL NOTATE THAT THERE ARE ELECTRICAL HAZARDS ON THAT SITE.
UH, I'VE GONE OUT IN ONES WHERE THERE WAS A, UH, ACTUALLY ACTIVE PARKING EVENTS AND YEAH, WE CONTACTED THE PURVEYOR AND HAD THEM YANK THE, UH, METER IMMEDIATELY.
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AND THEN THE REMEDY TO THAT IS CONNECTION AFTER ORDER TO DISCONNECT VERSUS THE EXACT SAME.BASICALLY JUST ALLOWING ME TO RECONNECT POWER AFTERWARDS.
IT'S A LITTLE REDUNDANT TO HAVE IT IN THERE BECAUSE IT ALREADY MENTIONS WHAT IT TAKES FOR US FOR SOMEBODY TO BE ABLE TO GET POWER IN THE FIRST PLACE.
BUT THIS IN A HARD SITUATION, ACTUALLY IS BENEFICIAL FOR US TO HAVE IT IN OTHER ORDINANCE.
SO HOW WOULD YOU FIND A SITUATION WHERE THAT'S A OCCURRENCE? UNLESS THEY'RE CALLING FOR INSPECTION AND YOU, YOU'RE NOT
THAT'S USUALLY HOW THAT WORKS.
UH, THE LIABILITY PORTION OF IT.
THIS IS INDEMNITY FOR US FROM BEING SUED DIRECTLY FOR ANYTHING THAT WE ARE TRULY DOING ON BEHALF OF OUR JOB.
ANYTHING THAT WE ARE DOING WITHOUT MALICE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN APPEALS, THIS IS WHERE YOU GUYS COME IN.
ANY PERSON FROM A CORPORATION MAY FILE AN APPEAL THROUGH THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT FOR THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION TO REVIEW ANY DECISIONS MADE BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, PROVIDED THAT SUCH APPEAL IS MADE IN WRITING WITHIN FIVE DAYS OF RECEIVING A NOTIFICATION, ALL THAT STUFF.
SO, UM, THIS HASN'T HAPPENED YET.
UH, BUT LET'S SAY AN ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR DISAGREES WITH ME ON MY INTERPRETATION, INTERNATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE.
UH, I WELCOME ANYBODY TO CONTACT ME AND SAY, STEVE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE READING IT THIS WAY, BUT TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM THIS LENS.
I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DISCUSS IT WITH SOMEBODY.
BUT AFTER A DEBATE, IF AT THE END OF THE DAY I'M LIKE, NO, DUDE, I, I JUST CAN'T GET THERE FROM HERE.
AND I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY, BUT I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH YOU.
THIS IS MY DETERMINATION OF WHAT THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE MEANS BY THIS SECTION.
WELL, THEY HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO APPEAL TO Y'ALL FOR AN INTERPRETATION, IN WHICH CASE WE'D GO THROUGH SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS.
I DO MY PRESENTATION, I SHOW YOU WHAT THE CODE SAYS, WHAT MY INTERPRETATION IS, AND WHATEVER ADDITIONAL RESOURCES I HAVE, THEN WHOMEVER IT IS THAT'S FILING FOR THE APPEAL WOULD HAVE THEIR OPPORTUNITY OUT FRONT TO BE ABLE TO REBUT THAT AND GIVE YOU THEIR INTERPRETATION, THEIR SOURCES.
AND THEN REGISTRATION REQUIRED.
UH, THIS IS ESTABLISHING THROUGH THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN A PERMIT OR NOT A PERMIT TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY.
ELECTRICAL LICENSE AND REGISTRATION CONTINUED.
THIS SECTION HERE ACTUALLY STARTS MAKING REFERENCES TO LICENSE MUNICIPAL LICENSES.
THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS NOT ISSUED MUNICIPAL ELECTRICAL LICENSES IN PROBABLY ABOUT 35, 40 YEARS.
UM, BACK BEFORE THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF LICENSE OR REGULATION, UM, EVERY CITY ISSUED THEIR OWN ELECTRICAL LICENSES.
WHEN THE TDLR CAME ON BOARD, THEY STARTED ACCEPTING MUNICIPAL LICENSES TO BE ABLE TO ISSUE A STATE LICENSE.
SO SOMEBODY WHO HAD A MASTER ELECTRICIAN LICENSE ISSUED BY THE CITY OF CAPEL WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, UH, FILE WITH A TEXAS DEPARTMENT LICENSING REGULATION FOR A TEXAS MASTER LICENSE, UTILIZING THAT CITY ISSUED LICENSE AS EVIDENCE THAT THEY MADE ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A MASTER ELECTRICIAN THAT WENT ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
ONCE THEY FINISHED THAT PORTION OF IT.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN ALL LICENSURE NOW IS IDENTIFIED BY THE TDLR, AND THAT'S ALL THROUGH THE TEXAS OCCUPATIONS CODE.
SO THAT IS WHY THIS SECTION IS JUST GONE.
THAT'S WHY THERE'S NOTHING ON THE LEFT.
WE WE'RE NOT MAKING REFERENCES TO MUNICIPAL LICENSES ANYMORE.
'CAUSE THIS, UH, APPLICATION FOR REGISTRATION, UH, THIS JUST IDENTIFIES WHAT OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE.
I HAVE IN INSERTED THE PORTION OF A COPY OF LIABILITY INSURANCE, MINIMUM OF $1 MILLION COVERAGE, BECAUSE AT PRESENT, IN ORDER TO FIGURE THAT OUT, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO TO PUBLIC WORKS.
I DON'T WANT OUR CUSTOMERS, OUR CONTRACTORS, TO GO HAVE TO GO FROM OUR WEBSITE OR OUR PORTION OF THE WEBSITE IDENTIFYING WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE AND JUMP OVER TO PUBLIC WORKS TO FIND OUT ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.
WHAT DO I NEED? MASTER LICENSE FORM, PICTURE IDENTIFICATION, BUSINESS IDENTIFICATION, AND COPY OF LIABILITY INSURANCE.
MINIMUM $1, $1 MILLION COVERAGE, QUICK AND EASY, ALL IN ONE LOCATION.
ISSUANCE IN TERM OF REGISTRATION.
THAT JUST ESTABLISHES IT'S ONLY GOOD FOR A YEAR, AND TRANSFER OF REGISTRATION IS UNLAWFUL.
AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN THE END, THE REVOCATION OF REGISTRATION.
THIS IS SAME AS ORIGINAL EXCEPT FOR SUBSECTION
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C, THREATENING OR ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR TO CITY STAFF OR CITY REPRESENTATIVES.I, UH, ADDED THAT IN SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS AN ISSUE.
UNFORTUNATELY, UH, I, I CAN'T ALLOW MY STAFF TO BE REPEATEDLY ABUSED VERBALLY, UH, BY CONTRACTORS.
SO I AM INSERTING THIS AS LAST DITCH EFFORT.
IF, IF WE CAN'T GET SOMEBODY TO ATHLETES BE CIVIL AND BE PROFESSIONAL WITH OUR STAFF, THEN YES, WE WILL REVOKE THEIR REGISTRATION WITH THE CITY.
THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO OBTAIN PERMITS WITH THE CITY, WHICH MEANS THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO PERFORM ANY WORK THAT REQUIRES A PERMIT OR INSPECTIONS.
ESSENTIALLY, THEY CAN'T WORK IN OUR CITY, IN WHICH CASE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO APPEAL IT TO Y'ALL.
THEY BE ABLE TO TO, TO THE BSC.
SO WHO MAKES THAT DECISION, AND HOW DO YOU MEASURE THE GUARDRAILS OF WHAT TRIGGERS THAT? THAT ME.
BUT, AND THEN IF THEY DISAGREE, THEY BRING IT BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE? YES.
IF THEY WANNA APPEAL, UH, THE REVOCATION, THEN THEY, THEY WOULD TAKE IT TO YOU ALL.
UH, NO MATTER WHAT OUR PRACTICE IS, THEY TRY AND WORK WITH EVERYBODY.
I I, I'VE BEEN YELLED AT BY THE BEST.
AND SOMETIMES IT TAKES THREE OR FOUR TIMES AND THEY FINALLY GET OUT OF THEIR SYSTEM WHETHER THEY'VE GOT IN THEIR SYSTEM, AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO GET BEYOND IT AND EVERYTHING'S GREAT.
SOMETIMES THEY JUST WON'T GET ME ON IT THOUGH.
AND I, I, I'M ADDING THIS IN HERE AS JUST A LATCH DIS DITCH EFFORT.
IS IT A TIMEFRAME FOR THAT LOCATION? NO, BECAUSE IF, IF THIS ONE PERSON SHOWS UP ONCE A YEAR FOR A PERMIT, AND IT'S THREE YEARS IN A ROW THAT WE'VE HAD THE EXACT SAME ISSUE WITH THIS ONE INDIVIDUAL, THEN UH, THAT'S GONNA BE ABOUT THE SAME.
AND SO BASED ON THAT, THE FEE THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY EVERY YEAR TO HAVE AN ACTIVE LICENSE, IT'S NON-REFUNDABLE.
RIGHT? WELL, THAT'S THE NICE THING FOR ELECTRICIANS.
THERE IS NO LIGHT OF REGISTRATION FEE.
AND THAT CAME THROUGH BY STATE LAW.
UH, ORIGINALLY I JUST STARTED OUT WITH PLUMBERS, AND THEN AFTER SEVERAL YEARS, ELECTRICIAN'S GOING, EH, UNCLE FOREST DON'T HAVE PAY REGISTRATION FEES.
WELL, THE STATE SAID, ALRIGHT, THERE'S FAIR, YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO DO IT EITHER.
AND, UM, THEY STARTED TO IMPLEMENT THAT FOR MECHANICAL CONTRACTORS.
BUT US AS A MUNICIPALITY HAD ALREADY WAIVED THE FEES FOR MECHANICAL CONTRACTORS.
SO WHEN WE STARTED WAIVING THE, THE REGISTRATION FEES FOR ELECTRICIANS, WE STARTED WAIVING 'EM FOR MECHANICAL CONTRACTORS AS WELL.
SO A STATE LICENSED CONTRACTOR, MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, OR PLUMBING, THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING ANNUAL FEE TO RENEW THEIR LICENSES.
SO WE'RE NOT CHARGING THEM ANY ADDITIONAL FEES.
SO THEN WHAT, SO CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE THEN? WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO DO FOR, FOR ONE YEAR? HOW? LIKE, BECAUSE IT JUST SAYS REQUIREMENTS AND PAYMENTS OF ANY APPLICABLE FEES AS SPECIFIED BY THE CITY OF
SO THOSE FEES, YOU HAVE THEM REGISTERS SO WE KNOW WHO'S WORKING IN TOWN.
YEAH, WE GOING FAMILIAR WITH YEAH.
AS WAY TO KEEP TRACK OF PEOPLE OKAY.
UH, THAT ARE WORKING IN OUR TOWN.
BUT THEY, SO THOSE, SO THE REFERENCE TO THE MASTERPIECE SCHEDULE YEAH.
IF THE STATE LAW CHANGES, THEN WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO WHERE ONLY CHANGING IT TO ONE LOCATION MM-HMM
SO IF THE, THE STATE COMES BACK AND SAYS, OKAY, YOU GUYS CAN START CHANGING CHARGING FEES AGAIN.
I'VE ALREADY GOT THE REFERENCE TO THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE.
SO ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS UPDATE THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE.
I DON'T HAVE TO UPDATE THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE, THEN COME BACK AND UPDATE THIS AS WELL.
SO THIS, THIS IS JUST REFER TO THIS MASTER FEE SCHEDULE AND IF THAT MASTER FEE SCHEDULE SAYS $0 THAN IT'S $0 THAN THEY HAVE TO WELL, YEAH, EXACTLY.
SO THEN, SO I'VE GOT ONE LOCATION TO UPDATE THE LAWS CHANGE.
AND IF IT DOES CHANGE JUST IN THE FUTURE, AND IT'S LIKE A HUNDRED BUCKS IF THEIR LICENSES REVOKED FROM US, IS THAT A HUNDRED DOLLARS REFUNDED BASED ON DURATION OF LICENSE ACTIVITY OR SO BE NON-REFUNDABLE.
BASICALLY, YOUR LICENSE GOT REVOKED BECAUSE YOU WERE A BUTTHEAD TO THE PEOPLE THAT SAY
FILE AN ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR THAT SURE.
SO A ROOFING CONTRACTOR COMES IN AND STARTS TRYING TO THROW DOWN WITH A COUPLE OF FOLKS.
WE END UP HAVING TO CALL THE POLICE, THEY GET HAULED OFF.
SAME THING HAPPENS A WEEK LATER, IT'S COME BACK.
LIKE, ALL RIGHT, THREE SECTION DONE.
DUDE HAS THREE ATTEMPTS TO TRY AND, AND PHYSICALLY ASSAULT A, UH, CITY EMPLOYEE.
YOUR REGI REGISTRATION IS REVOKED.
WE'VE YEAH, THEY, THEY WANT, THEY WANT TO COME BACK A YEAR LATER, TWO YEARS LATER AND TRY TO GET REINSTATED.
I'M GONNA MAKE THEM COME TO Y'ALL.
AND THEN IF IN OUR, 'CAUSE I'M JUST THINKING AHEAD THAT IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN AND IT COMES TO US AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, I WAS ONLY ACTIVE FOR SIX MONTHS.
I WANT THE NEXT SIX, THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF MY MONEY BACK.
WELL, WE'RE LIKE, WHAT RECOURSE DO WE THEN HAVE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SITUATION TO SAY EITHER A YES OR NO, THAT'S NOT AN OPTION.
IF THAT'S CONTROLLED BY FEE SCHEDULE.
SO IF YOU PAY THE FEE, IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU PAY A BUILDING PERMIT FEE, YOU DON'T GET A REFUND ON BECAUSE YOU FINISHED PAYROLL, YOU GET SIX MONTHS.
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THE COST OF COMING IN THE DOOR.SO THE FEE SCHEDULE THEN COVERS ANY, LIKE, REFUNDABILITY QUESTIONS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO KNOW SEARCH FOR SOMETHING.
YEAH, I KNOW A YES OR NO TO THEM GETTING MONEY BACK.
THEY, THEY, THEY WOULDN'T BE BECAUSE THAT'D BE A DECISION THAT THE MANAGER'S OFFICE OKAY.
IF THAT WERE TO OCCURRED, PROBABLY NOT LIKELY TO.
AND NO MATTER WHAT OUR REGISTRATION FEE, 75 BUCKS AND THAT, THAT IS ADMINISTRATIVE FEE.
YEAH, WE DID OUR ADMINISTRATIVE
OH, I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD GET ANY OF IT BENEFIT, BUT I JUST KNOW THERE'S SOME PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WHO WOULD ASK FOR IT.
I, SO I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANNA KNOW IF WE'RE ABLE TO BE LIKE, NO, REFER TO THIS.
THAT'S NOT A QUESTION THAT IS EVEN APPLICABLE TO OUR DECISION MAKING.
WE, WE, WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE BOB REFERENCED WHERE IT'S LIKE, YEAH, THIS WAS GONNA TAKE US EIGHT MONTHS AND IT ONLY TOOK US THREE.
AND HEY, CAN WE GIMME THAT PERMIT FEEDBACK? NO.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
THEN QUESTION PLAYING AROUND THE GOLF IF YOU DON'T FINISH
SO GETTING BEYOND THE REVOCATION REGISTRATION, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY A LITTLE MORE STRINGENT THAN, UH, STATE LAW.
THE REQUIRED, UH, SIGNAGE ON A VEHICLE IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED BY STATE LAW.
IT'S A LITTLE REDUNDANT FOR US TO HAVE IT IN HERE, BUT IT, IT, IT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE IN THE PAST.
SO RATHER THAN JUST LEAVING UP TO THE STATE, I'M KEEPING IT IN HERE.
NEXT PART IS SUBSECTION EIGHT, WHICH IS SUPERVISION.
THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF OUR, UH, ELECTRICAL ORDINANCE.
THIS IS ABOVE WHAT STATE REQUIRES.
STATE ALLOWS FOR AN APPRENTICE ELECTRICIAN TO BE ABLE TO RUN A PROJECT ON THEIR OWN.
WE ALWAYS HAVE AND STILL REQUIRE THAT AT MINIMUM A UH, LICENSED GERMAN ELECTRICIAN HAS TO BE ON THE JOB SUPERVISED WHILE THE WORK IS HAPPENING.
SO LONG AS WORK IS OCCURRING, THERE HAS TO BE A TURN ELECTRICIAN ON SITE.
THEY CAN'T JUST DRIVE IN, CHECK SOMETHING, DRIVE AWAY SOMEWHERE ELSE, LIKE WHILE SOMEONE'S PULLING CABLE.
I HAVE NEVER EVER TOLD AN INSPECTOR, OH YEAH, THE LICENSE GUY IS, UH, AT, AT THE PARTS STORE.
THIS HAS BEEN STREAMLINED A LITTLE BIT.
IT'S ALSO BEEN BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.
UM, SINCE OURS WAS ORIGINALLY VERB TEXT IONS CODE CHANGED AND THEY CHANGED HOW A, UH, INDIVIDUAL OR WHAT INDIVIDUALS CAN DO WORK UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS.
SO WE ABSOLUTELY DO ALLOW FOR HOMEOWNERS TO DO THEIR OWN WORK.
HOWEVER, THE WORK HAS TO BE DONE BY THE PROPERTY OWNER IN A BUILDING OWNED AND OCCUPIED BY THEM AS THEIR HOMESTEAD.
AND IT MEANS THERE IS THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE.
THE HOMESTEAD HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH TAX REGISTRATIONS.
I KNOW THAT HE USES THE WORD HOMESTEAD IN TAX REGISTRATIONS AND CAN GET THAT.
WHAT I AM WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT THEY MEET THIS CRITERIA, WHICH IS THE SAME STATE LAW.
IT HAS TO BE IN THEIR NAME, AND IT HAS TO BE OCCUPIED BY 'EM AS THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE.
THAT MAKES IT THEIR HOMESTEAD.
IF IT IS OWNED UNDERNEATH AN LLC OR A TRUST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU DON'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE.
IT HAS TO BE IN YOUR NAME, AND IT HAS TO BE YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE IN ORDER FOR YOU TO BE THE ACTUAL OWNER.
IF IT'S IN A TRUST, DOESN'T MATTER WHO OWNS THE TRUST.
AND THE, UH, TDLR, UH, AGREES WITH THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
WAIT, SO THAT'S A CHANGE FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
SO IF YOU READ THROUGH ELECTRIC, DONE BY, UH, SUBSECTION FIVE, ELECTRICAL WORK DONE BY A PROPERTY OWNER, THE BUILDING OWNED, OCCUPIED BY THEM AND CLASSIFIED AS THEIR HOME SETS OF THE VERBIAGES, THIS STATE.
BUT THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE FREQUENTLY HERE.
WE FREQUENTLY HAVE A LOT OF BOMBS THAT ARE IN A TRUST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND SORRY, THAT THAT IS NOT THE SAME, BUT SORRY.
'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA ASK US TO APPROVE THESE CHANGES.
BUT IS IT AN ACTUAL CHANGE FROM WHAT'S IN PLACE TODAY? OR IS YOU JUST KINDA RESTATING WHAT'S ALREADY THERE? I WAS BASICALLY REREADING WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, BUT BECAUSE IT'S SUCH AN ISSUE, I WAS BRINGING IT UP.
BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE WHO'S GOT A HOUSE THAT'S IN A TRUST TODAY IS GONNA SAY AFTER THIS IS APPROVED, THAT YOU GUYS CHANGED THE RULES.
YOU'RE JUST REITERATING FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW THIS IS WHAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE BOOKS.
WELL, THIS IS ALREADY IN OUR, OUR ORDINANCE.
SO IF WE STICK WITH THE ORDINANCE, IT'LL LOOK LIKE IT IS ON THE RIGHT.
IF WE CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, IT'LL LOOK LIKE WHAT IT IS ON THE LEFT.
SO YOU'RE JUST TAKING OUT THREE THINGS FROM THE RIGHT.
SO IT IS CONSOLIDATION, THE INSTALLATION, ALTERATION, REPAIRING OF ANY WIRING DEVICES OR EQUIPMENT FOR SIGNALING REMOTE CONTROL OR THE TRANSMISSION OF INFORMATION PROVIDED SUCH AS INHERENTLY POWER LIMITED AND HAVE A MAXIMUM NAMEPLATE RATING, NOT EXCEEDING ONE FOLD AND PEER.
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AND YOU CAN SEE THAT AS NUMBER TWO, REPLACEMENT OF LAMPS, FUSES AND CONNECTION OF AFFORDABLE DEVICES TO SUITABLE RECEPTACLES, WHICH HAD BEEN PERMANENTLY INSTALLED.UH, I DELETED THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A LITTLE REDUNDANT.
THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE.
UM, INSTALLATION, ALTERATION, A REQUIRING ANY WIRING DEVICES OR EQUIPMENT OF SIGNALING REMOTE CONTROL OR TRANSMISSION OF INFORMATION.
NUMBER TWO, IS THERE INSTALLATION, ALTERATION, REPAIR, ELECTRICAL WIRING DEVICES, APPLIANCES, EQUIPMENT INSTALLED BY OR FOR AN ELECTRICAL PUBLIC SERVICE CORPORATION THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO BE IN OUR, THEY JUST TOOK FIVE AS ACTUALLY BE DOWN.
AND YOU GOT, BUT WE CAN STILL REPLACE THE ROOM CEILING FANS, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO ONCE AS LIFE FORLIKE REPLACEMENT COVID IS NOT A, LIKE, LIKE FORLIKE REPLACEMENT PERMITS ARE REQUIRED.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT, WHICH I JUST GAVE AT MY ELECTRICAL, UH, DISSERTATION AT THE LIBRARY A COUPLE MONTHS BACK, IS BECAUSE MOST CEILING LIGHT BOXES ARE NOT RATED FOR THE WEIGHT OF A CEILING FAN.
AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE HAD A LOT OF INJURIES WHERE SOMEBODY TOOK OUT A REGULAR DOME LIGHT, PUT UP A CEILING FAN, AND YEAH, AFTER A WHILE, THAT CEILING FAN LANDED ON THEM.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UH, IF IT IS A LIFE FOR LIFE REPLACEMENT, NO HARM, NO FOUL.
IF IT IS NOT A LIGHT FOR LIFE REPLACEMENT HAS TO BE PERMITTED.
INSPECTED APPLICATION FOR THE PERMITS, WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED ALL OF THAT.
SO THIS SECTION WAS REDUNDANT AND HAS BEEN DELETED.
ELECTRICAL LICENSE AND REGISTRATION, CONTINUED PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS.
I'VE SHRUNK IT DOWN TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER, ESPECIALLY BY GETTING RID OF THE, UH, REFERENCE TO, UH, PRACTICE OF ENGINEERING AS REQUIRED BY ARTICLE 3 22 32 71 A VERNON'S ANNOTATED TEXAS STATUTES.
UH, THAT HAS NOT BEEN A THING SINCE 1927.
I HAD TO LOOK UP
THAT'S THE SAME PERMIT ISSUANCE THAT MERGES THE SAME VALIDITY OF PERMIT.
I GOT RID OF THE RETENTION OF PLANS SECTION, UH, SUBSECTION NINE ON THE RIGHT.
A REASON FOR GETTING RID OF THAT IS BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY DICTATED TO US BY STATE LAW.
BY STATE LAW, ANY WORK PERFORMED ON A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE HAS TO BE RETAINED FOR LIFE OF THAT STRUCTURE.
SO NO MATTER WHAT WE HAVE IN HERE, STATE LAW SAYS WE GOTTA KEEP IT SO LONG AS THAT BUILDING EXISTS.
UH, RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION STATE LAW SAYS THAT WE ONLY HAVE TO RETAIN IT FOR ONE YEAR AFTER COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT.
HOWEVER, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE TO OUR CUSTOMERS, UH, WE TRY TO AT LEAST MAINTAIN ONE SET OF PLANS, WHICH IS THE, UH, CITY PROOF PLANS MOVING FORWARD, AS WE'RE TRYING TO SHRINK DOWN THE AMOUNT OF DATA THAT WE HOLD, UH, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO HOLD ON TO AT LEAST ONE SET OF PLANS PER RESIDENTIAL PERMIT.
SO THAT WAY, 10, 15 YEARS FROM NOW, SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO SOME WORK ON THEIR HOME.
AND HEY, ANY, ANY CHANCE YOU GUYS GOT SOME PLANS ON MY HOUSE? AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE DO.
SO THAT HELPS OUT OUR RESIDENTS EXPIRATION.
THIS SIMPLY SETS IT UP FOR EXPIRING THE SAME AS ANY OTHER BUILDING PERMIT, 180 DAYS AFTER, UH, EACH, BASICALLY EACH ACTION IS TAKEN THE SUSPENSION OR REVOCATION OF THE PERMIT, AND THEN PERMIT FEES AS PER THE MA THE MASTERPIECE SCHEDULE.
SO CAN THERE BE LIKE A BUILDING PERMIT HOLD AND THEN, OR I GUESS ISSUED, AND THEN AN ELECTRICAL PERMIT ISSUED SIX MONTHS LATER.
AND THEN THE ELECTRICAL PERMIT IS VALID FOR LONGER THAN THE PREVIOUS PERMIT.
REALLY? THAT WOULD, IT WOULD BE VERY SPECIFIC TO WHATEVER'S GOING ON.
IF SOMEBODY'S DOING A CURRENT, A RESIDENTIAL ALTERATION PERMIT, THE ELECTRICAL CAN'T BE SEPARATE FROM, IT'S GONNA BE PART AND PARCEL OF THAT RESIDENTIAL ALTERATION PERMIT.
HOWEVER, IF LET'S SAY SOMEBODY'S GOT A RESIDENTIAL ALTERATION PERMIT FOR THEIR KITCHEN, BUT SEPARATELY THEY'VE GOT AN ELECTRICIAN COMING THROUGH AND PUTTING SOLAR PANELS, THEN YEAH, THAT SOLAR PANEL IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT REMODEL.
SO ONE COULD EXPIRE AND NOT AFFECT THE OTHER IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
WHY THERE IS NO LIMITATION ON THE, UH, EXTENSION OF A PERMIT AFTER 180 DAYS.
YOU KNOW, YOU SAID SOMEBODY CAN EXTEND IT FOR 15 YEARS.
WELL, I, I, I WILL NOT ALLOW TO EXTEND FOR 15 YEARS.
MY, MY PERSONAL PRACTICE IS I'LL GIVE YOU ONE, I'LL GIVE YOU ONE EXTENSION IF YOU NEED ANOTHER EXTENSION.
UH, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO MEET WITH ME AND TRY TO IDENTIFY WHAT EXACTLY THE HURDLES ARE IN THIS PROJECT AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO TRY AND PREVENT THOSE HURDLES FROM HAPPENING.
SO YOU ALLOW FOR ONE EXTENSION AND YOU NEED A VALID REASON NO MATTER WHAT.
I NEED A VALID REASON AT, AT EACH REQUEST.
UH, I'VE ONLY HAD ONE THAT WAS REQUIRED TO BE EXTENDED MORE THAN,
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UH, ONCE.AND, UH, THAT ONE WAS A VERY SPECIAL PROJECT.
SO, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, YEAH.
AND IN THE LAST, MORE THAN A DECADE, I, I'VE ONLY EVER, EVER REALLY HAD ONE.
BUT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT IN THERE, PEOPLE WOULD GO TO GET A PERMIT, NOT DO THE WORK.
LET'S TAKE THE HOUSE THAT GOT TURNED DOWN IN 6 31.
ONE OF THE FEARS WE HAVE, THEY'D PULL A PERMIT, NOT DO THE WORK, AND WE'D BE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE WERE BACK IN FEBRUARY.
SO WHAT STEVE DOES IS MADE SOME SAY YOU GET ONE EXTENSION, BUT I'M NOT EVEN GONNA GIVE YOU THAT EXTENSION UNLESS YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOING WORK.
SO TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM JUST GETTING PERMITS AND NOT DOING THEIR REPAIRS IS THEN THEY DO COME AND SEE YOU WHEN THEIR HOUSE ISN'T FIXED UP.
AND WHEN IT BECOMES INEVITABLE, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A WAY, IF YOU FAILED THE INSPECTION, IT AUTOMATICALLY EXTENDED THE PERMIT.
SOLY NO, I, IT IS 180 DAYS FROM EVERY ACTION TICKET.
SO IF WE COME OUT ON AN INSPECTION AND IT'S FAILED, OR IT'S PASSED, THAT'S STILL RESETS THAT 180 DAY CLOCK WITHOUT WRITTEN, UH, REQUEST.
UH, YEAH, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT REQUESTING AN EXTENSION FOR A PERMIT.
YOU ARE STILL ACTIVELY GOING THROUGH THAT PERMIT.
HOWEVER, IF YOU CALL US OUT THREE TIMES FOR THE SAME INSPECTION, YOU HAD STILL HAVE TO REMEDY IT OR TAKEN CARE OF IT.
WELL, THAT'S ADDITIONAL FEES, AND IT IS A PARTICULAR PROCESS THAT'S GOING ON, ESPECIALLY WITH, UH, MITIGATING SOMETHING THAT'S COMING FROM A BSC ORDER OR A CODE ENFORCEMENT ORDER, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
THEN THAT'S GONNA HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE BENCHMARKS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE OR THAT THE HOMEOWNER OR A PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO MEET ON CERTAIN DATES.
UM, WE DID THAT WITH ONE PARTICULAR PROPERTY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
WE TOLD HIM, OKAY, THIS IS YOUR SCHEDULE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS DONE BY THIS DAY.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS DONE BY THIS DAY, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE JOB COMPLETED.
BY THIS DAY, YOU ARE NOT GETTING ANY EXTENSIONS.
YOU CAN REQUEST 'EM ALL YOU WANT.
YOU'RE NOT GETTING, SO YOU DO HAVE WAYS OF STOPPING PEOPLE FROM GAMING THE SYSTEM.
IF SOMEBODY IS REALLY, REALLY SAVVY AND KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THERE'S NO WAY TO STOP THEM FROM GAINING THE SYSTEM.
UH, WE END UP HAVING TO TAKE THAT TO COURT.
OKAY? BUT ALL WE CAN DO IS MAKE DETERRENTS AND KEEP THE HONEST PEOPLE.
OKAY? WE, WE TRY TO PICK WHAT BATTLES WE THROW DOWN FOR, BUT NO, WE DID THAT.
WELL, WE'VE DECLARED PROPERTY, UM, SUBSTANDARD, AND WE GIVE 'EM THE SCHEDULE AND THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND SEE YOU IF THEY DON'T MEET.
OKAY? I MEAN, WE HAVE SOME THINGS IN PLACE, BUT, AND STEVE DOES A GREAT JOB OF THAT.
BUT PEOPLE DO GAIN THE SYSTEM OR TRY TO, YEAH.
SO, UM, I, I THI THIS IS MY THIRD MUNICIPALITY, UH, AND MY FIRST, AND MY SECOND MUNICIPALITY THAT I WORKED FOR, EACH ONE HAD ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS REALLY, REALLY GOOD AT GAINING THE SYSTEM.
HE'D BEEN DOING IT FOR DECADES.
AND, UH, IN EACH INSTANCE, IT ENDED UP BECOMING A COURT CASE.
THEY, THEY, THEY WERE ONLY ABLE TO GAIN THE SYSTEM FOR SO LONG BEFORE IT CAUGHT, UH, INSPECTIONS.
INSPECTION REQUESTS, I'VE TWEAKED THE VERAGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT, IT'S NOT A BIG CHANGE.
IT SHALL BE THE, UH, SUBSECTION TWO ON THE RIGHT INSPECTION REQUESTS.
IT SHALL BE THE, UH, DUTY OF THE PERSON DOING THE WORK AUTHORIZED BY A PERMIT TO NOTIFY THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL OR DESIGNEE THAT EACH WORK OR THAT SUCH WORK IS READY FOR INSPECTIONS.
AND I JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT, AND IT SHALL BE THE DUTY OF THE PERMIT ORDER REQUEST, THE SCOPE OF WORK TO BE INSPECTED THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE PROCESS.
EVERY REQUEST FOR INSPECTION MUST BE FILED AT LEAST ONE WORKING DAY BEFORE SUCH INSPECTION IS DESIRED.
IT'LL BE THE DUTY OF THE PERMIT HOLDER TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO AND MEANS FOR PROPER INSPECTION OF SUCH WORK.
SO REALLY ALL I DID IS CLEAN UP THE VERBIAGE A LITTLE BIT AND LEFT IT TO ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES RATHER THAN, UM, CODIFYING WHAT OUR ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES ARE.
I JUST MADE REFERENCE TO OUR ADMINISTRATIVE OFF PRACTICES.
SO IF WE HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES, I DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO Y'ALL FOR THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES.
THE OPERATION OF ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT, UH, SUBSECTION THREE ON THE RIGHTS, UM, GOT RID OF THAT ONE BECAUSE THERE, THERE'S NO REASON FOR IT TO BE IN THERE.
UH, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SITTING SECTION SHALL NOT BE CONSTRUED TO PROHIBIT THE OPERATION OF ANY ELECTRICAL SYSTEM OR EQUIPMENT INSTALLED TO REPLACE EXISTING EQUIPMENT.
THAT'S CON KIND OF CONTRADICTORY TO WHAT WE DO FOR A LIVING.
SO I, I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A, UH, A GOOD PORTION FOR US TO MAINTAIN.
AND THEN SECTION FOR RE-INSPECTIONS THAT REMAINS THE SAME.
SERVICE CONNECTIONS, CONNECTION, APPROVAL, THAT VERBIAGE IS THE SAME.
THAT VERBIAGE IS ABOUT THE SAME
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AND AUTHORIZED CONNECTIONS, UH, I GOT RID OF THE LAST COUPLE SENTENCE THERE.ONLY AUTHORIZED EMPLOYEES WITH PURVEYOR SHALL BE PERMITTED TO MAKE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE CUSTOMER SERVICE ENTRANCE CONDUCTORS, AND PURVEYORS LINES.
UH, THAT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WE GET INVOLVED IN.
UH, I'VE GOT TONS AND TONS AND TONS OF ELECTRICIANS THAT ARE, I, I GUESS THAT THEY ARE STILL YOUNG AT HEART BECAUSE THEY ABSOLUTELY WILL GRAB ONTO A PURVEYOR LINES AND DO A DISCONNECT, RECONNECT ALL ON THEIR OWN WITH THOSE LIVE CONDUCTORS THAT WILL END THEIR LIFE IN AN INSTANT.
THAT IS AN ISSUE BETWEEN THEM AND THE PUR.
IF ENCORE OR COSER DOESN'T WANT 'EM MESSING WITH THEIR CONDUCTORS, I'LL LEAVE THAT BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM.
DOES THIS APPLY TO EV CHARGERS THAT YOU HAVE INSTALLED IN YOUR HOUSE? LIKE THE LAST ONE THAT, WELL, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO, UH, SHUT DOWN SURFACE OF DESTRUCTIONS.
NO, NOT THE STRUCTURE, BUT IF THEY'RE, LIKE, IF THEY HAVE TO REBUILD YOUR ELECTRICAL PANEL, UH, IF THEY'RE DOING A NEW BREAKERS IN AND ALL THAT STUFF, JUST 'CAUSE YOUR HOUSE IS OLDER, THEY HAVE TO JUST BY EVERY ELECTRICIAN I KNOW IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUT POP A GLOBE OUT.
UH, POP A METER IF YOU DON'T HAVE A, UH, A DISCONNECT.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE CHANGES UNDERNEATH 2023 NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE.
UH, PREVIOUSLY YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE OUTDOOR ELECTRICAL DISCONNECTS FOR RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.
YOU HAD YOUR NEEDLE, THEN YOU HAD YOUR PM WELL, NOW UNDERNEATH 2023, NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES HAD TO HAVE THAT SAME ELECTRICAL DISCONNECT THAT YOU SEE ON THE BACKSIDE OF EVERY SINGLE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
IT'S THAT BIG GRAY BOX WITH A RED HANDLE ON.
SO NOW UNDERNEATH CURRENT CODES, IF THEY'VE GOT THEIR OUTDOOR ELECTRICAL DISCONNECT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH A SERVICE, UH, COMPANY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO KILL SERVICE TO THAT PANEL AND DO A COMPLETE PANEL UPGRADE.
ME PERSONALLY, THE WAY WE FUNCTION FOR THE CITY OF CAPEL IS I AM NOT COMFORTABLE MAKING A HOMEOWNER PAY AN ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR TO REDO THEIR SERVICE AND REDO A SERVICE DISCONNECT WHEN ALL THEY'RE DOING IS A PANEL UPGRADE.
IF ALL THEY'RE DOING IS A PANEL UPGRADE, HERE'S YOUR OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE OUR FAULT.
YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE WHOLE LITTLE HOUSE SEARCH PROTECTOR.
BUT I'M NOT GONNA MAKE YOU GUYS PUT IN A SERVICE DISCONNECT OUTSIDE WHEN ALL YOU'RE DOING IS WORKING INSIDE.
START MESSING WITH THAT, UH, METER BASE THOUGH.
IF YOU'RE GONNA REPLACE THE METER BASE, NOW YOU HAVE TO PUT IN THAT LOCAL ELECTRICAL DISCONNECT.
THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED THOUGH YOU HAD YOUR MAIN DISCONNECT IN THAT INSIDE PANEL.
MAYBE NOT SIX THROWS THE HAND THING, ONE SINGLE DISCONNECT MAYBE.
SO THAT, THAT'LL BE BETWEEN THE, UH, ELECTRIC CONTRACTOR AND GOD, IF, IF THEY ARE ABLE TO DISCONNECT THAT SERVICE ON THEIR OWN, DO THE PANEL UPGRADE WITHOUT A DISCONNECT MEANS AND RECONNECT THAT SERVICE.
AND BELIEVE ME, THERE ARE PLENTY THAT HAVE DONE IT.
I KNOW THAT WHOLE YOU BUREAU ELECTRICS.
SO I JUST SEPARATED OUT INTO TWO SEPARATE PARAGRAPHS INSTEAD OF ONE MASSIVE RUN ON PARAGRAPH.
SO WHERE, WHERE IT GOES, ISSUANCE OF GRANTING A PERMIT OR APPROVAL OF PLAN SPECIFICATIONS.
THAT'S JUST A SEPARATE DEPARTMENT SET OF PARAGRAPH.
AND THEN ON CHANGING UP THE DEFINITIONS, YOU'LL SEE THE OLD DEFINITIONS ON THE RIGHT.
THE OLD DEFINITIONS ON THE RIGHT ALSO INCLUDE ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR, UM, UH, MASTER ELECTRICIAN, JOURNEYMAN ELECTRICIAN, WHAT A MODIFICATION IS, AND MULTIPLE OCCUPANCY BUILDING.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR ANY OF THOSE TO BE IN THERE.
WHO, WHOMEVER AN INSPECTOR IS, WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT EARLIER IN THE CODE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A DEFINITION FOR IT, A DEFINITION OF WHAT A MASTER ELECTRICIAN IS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT ANYMORE.
THAT'S HANDLED WITH STATE LEVEL.
STATE SAYS WHAT A MASTER ELECTRICIAN IS.
STATE SAYS WHAT A GERMAN ELECTRICIAN IS.
THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CRITERIA FOR THAT LICENSURE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE MULTIPLE OCCUPANCY BUILDING THAT'S DEFINED IN THE NATIONAL BUILDING CODE.
WE DON'T NEED IT DEFINED IN HERE AS WELL.
AND THEN WHERE IT SAYS ELECTRICAL CODE, UH, CHANGED THAT TO STATE 2026 INSTEAD OF 2023, THEN GOING INTO THE ACTUAL AMENDMENTS OF THE, UH, ELECTRICAL CODES ITSELF.
I HAVE REMOVED ALL AMENDMENTS TO THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE.
UH, WHAT I'M PROPOSING FOR ADOPTION OF THE 2026 NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE IS THE ELECTRICAL CODE AS PRINTED BY THE NATIONAL FIRE PREVENTION AGENCY.
SO WE DO NOT HAVE ANY LOCAL AMENDMENTS THAT I'M PROPOSING FOR.
SO THE, UH, APPROVAL PORTION THAT'S ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF IN OUR ORDINANCE IN EARLIER SECTIONS, UH, GARAGES, THIS IS ONE OF OUR REQUIREMENTS IS, UH, UH, AND EACH ATTACHED GARAGE AND EACH DETACHED GARAGE WITH ELECTRIC POWER, AT LEAST ONE RECEPTACLE OUTLET SHALL BE INSTALLED FOR
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EACH CAR SPACE THAT'S ALREADY INTERNATIONAL METRO CODE.UH, CHANGING ARTICLE THREE 10 POINT 15 B SEVEN SHALL NOT BE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH TWO 20 POINT 82.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT HASN'T BEEN RELEVANT SINCE, UH, THE 2023 CODE.
ALL THOSE SECTIONS OF CHANGE ARE INTO 2026.
WE DON'T NEED IT IN, UH, ARTICLE 500.8 A THREE EVIDENCE ACCEPTABLE TO THE AUTHORITY.
HAVING JURISDICTION SUCH AS MANUFACTURER SELF VALUATION OR AN OWNER'S ENGINEER JUDGMENT SIGNED AND SEALED BY QUALIFIED, REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING.
WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE AN, UH, AMENDMENT TO THAT ORDINANCE.
STATE LAW SAYS THAT WE CAN ACCEPT DOCUMENTS FROM A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER.
SO THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO HAVE ANY OF THESE CHANGES.
UH, AND, AND SPEAKING AS SOMEONE WHO STARTED OUT AS A CONTRACTOR, I GUARANTEE YOU NONE OF THE CONTRACTORS OPEN THE CODE BOOK.
IF THEY DO, THAT IS THE ONLY THING THEY OPEN.
THERE IS NO CONTRACTOR THAT GOES, YOU KNOW, TODAY'S TUESDAY, I'M GONNA LOOK UP WHAT CITY BILL HAS TODAY'S WEDNESDAY.
I'M GONNA LOOK UP WHAT CITY LOUISVILLE HAS.
THEY GO OUT, THEY DO THEIR JOB ACCORDING TO NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE, AND THEN THEY LOOK TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY GOT A GREEN TAG.
IF THEY GOT A GREEN TAG BEING TESTED, THEY GOT A RED TAG.
THEY'LL MAKE WHATEVER CHANGES ARE NECESSARY.
BUT NO ELECTRICIAN WHO IS MAKING MONEY HAS THE TIME TO SIT AND READ THROUGH EVERY SINGLE AMENDMENT OF EVERY SINGLE MUNICIPALITY THEY WORK IN.
THERE'S TOO MANY OF US, TOO MANY OF 'EM, TOO MUCH GOING ON.
THEY, THEY LEARN THROUGH RED TAGS BY US STICKING TO JUST WHAT THE NATIONAL, UH, ELECTRICAL CODE ALREADY HAS.
I'M NOT TRYING TO SECOND GUESS.
EVERY ENGINEER AND PROFESSIONAL ELECTRICAL DESIGNER HAS ALREADY PUT IN THROUGH THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE.
WE'RE SITTING TO WHAT PROFESSIONALS WHO KNOW MORE ABOUT ELECTRICITY THAN I EVER WILL HAVE ALREADY GOT THROUGH.
THEY'VE ALREADY VETTED IT, IT'S ALREADY GONE THROUGH A PANEL.
I DON'T NEED TO SECOND SUGGEST THAT THE ESSENTIAL ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS FOR HOSPITALS, THAT THAT'S ALREADY IN CODES.
WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT AMENDMENT ANYMORE.
LOCATION, E SB SE, WHICH IS ELECTRICAL VEHICLE CHARGES.
UH, THAT IS AN AMENDMENT I PROPOSED BASED ON NEED FROM WHAT I PERCEIVED, UH, SUCH AS HAVING SEEN TOO MANY, UH, GARAGES WITH WALL DAMAGE.
AND PEOPLE WANT TO PUT ELECTRICAL VEHICLE CHARGERS IN THOSE SAME LOCATIONS WHERE I'VE SEEN DAMAGE INSIDE A GARAGE.
SENATE BILL, WHAT IS IT? I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE SENATE BILL.
NOW I BELIEVE IT'S 1252 OUT OF THE EIGHT NINTH LEGISLATION CAME DOWN AND SAID THAT, UH, MUNICIPALITIES CANNOT MAKE AMENDMENTS YET.
SENATE BILL 1252 MUNICIPALITIES CANNOT MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THIS SECTION OF THE NATIONAL ELECTORAL CODE.
SO THIS HAS TO GO AWAY BECAUSE I CAN'T AMEND THAT SECTION OF NATIONAL AL CODE.
UH, IT WAS DETERMINED THROUGH, UH, ACTUALLY A LOT OF PERSEVERANCE FROM THE ATTORNEYS FOR LARGE CORPORATIONS THAT MANUFACTURE ELECTRICAL VEHICLES, ELECTRICAL VEHICLE CHARGERS, AND UH, PHOTOVOLTAIC SYSTEMS, WHICH IS SOLAR PANELS.
UM, THEY PETITIONED THE SENATE HEAVILY.
IT WAS THROUGH THEIR HEAVY CONDITIONS TO THE SENATE.
THE SENATE SUPPORTED THE CHANGE AND, UH, THE STATE LEVEL THAT NO MUNICIPALITY MADE CHANGE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE, NOT FOR THESE PORTIONS OF IT.
UM, THAT EITHER IS THE WIRING METHODS.
UH, THESE ARE ALREADY COVERED IN THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE.
THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO HAVE THESE, UH, NON-METAL SHEATH CABLE.
THAT'S ALL COVERED IN NATIONAL ELECTRICAL GO.
THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO HAVE ANY OF THIS IN HERE.
THIS IS WHY I THOUGHT I WAS DONE.
UH, THIS, THE OTHER PORTION OF IT, UH, ESS FOR ONE, TWO CEILING DWELLINGS, NO EXCEEDING ON BOLTS DC UH, THAT WAS THE OTHER PORTION I AMENDED FOR VEHICLE IMPACT PROTECTION.
AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN INCENTIVE.
WHAT IF IT'S A BATTERY THAT'S NOT FOR VEHICLE CHARGING? DOESN'T MATTER.
IF IT IS BACKUP POWER, THEN I, I YOU CAN'T TOUCH IT.
IT'S COVERED UNDERNEATH THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE.
I CANNOT MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THAT SECTION OF CODE.
BUT UNDERNEATH SOFI, YOU DO ACTUALLY DO HAVE THE OPTION OF HAVING A LICENSED ELECTRICIAN DO IT WITHOUT BENEFITED PERMITS FOR INSPECTIONS.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO A SECOND PARTY, UH, REVIEW AND INSPECTIONS, YOU CAN DO SO, OR YOU CAN GO THROUGH YOUR MUNICIPALITY FOR AND INSPECTIONS.
THAT'D BE BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR, MEANING THAT IF I WANTED IT PUT UP A CERTAIN WAY, SET IT.
BILL 1252 SAYS THAT YOU CAN DO SO THROUGH A LICENSED CONTRACTOR, UH, BENEFIT OF PERMITS OR INSPECTIONS FROM ANY MUNICIPALITY.
SO AS, AS A PERTAINS TO BACKUP POWER, AND THAT IS FOR GENERATORS AND BAGS
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AND THAT'S IT.UM, WITH THE KIND OF GAINING POPULARITY OF PLUG AND PLAY SOLAR PANELS THAT DON'T HAVE TO BE INSTALLED ON YOUR ROOF, THEY CAN JUST BE PLUGGED INTO AN OUTLET OUTSIDE.
UH, DOES THIS ADDRESS ANY SAFETY MEASURES OR RESTRICTIONS RELATED TO THE NO, BECAUSE THOSE ARE PLUG AND PLAY, THOSE ARE EXTERNAL APPLIANCES.
BY LAW, THEY HAVE TO BE LISTED, WHICH MEANS NATIONAL RECOGNIZED TESTING LABORATORY.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY, ADVENT OF, UH, PLACES SUCH AS AMAZON AND WALMART.COM HAS FLOODED OUR MARKETS WITH UNLISTED EQUIPMENT.
AND THAT, THAT'S FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO SORT OUT, NOT ME.
WE'LL ADJOURN THE WORK SESSION TIME'S NOW.
WE'LL, REGULAR SESSION WILL BEGIN.
AND Y ALL WANT A BREAK OR YOU WANNA MUTE? YOU SPOKE ALL YOU.
LET GO OPEN UP THE REGULAR SESSION IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND.
THE REGULAR SESSION OF THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS.
7 0 6 AND THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION.
FOR, FOR, UH, FOR TODAY IS NOW I'M BACK IN SESSION.
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ITEM FOUR, CITIZEN APPEARANCE.THERE'S NOBODY HERE TO APPEAR, I DON'T THINK.
UH, SO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, APPROVAL OF THE FEBRUARY 5TH, 2026, UH, BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION MINUTES.
DID EVERYBODY HAVE A CHANCE TO READ OVER THE MINUTES? YES.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, TO, UH, ACCEPT THEM? SECONDED.
WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE AND SECONDED.
ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.
THE MINUTES HAVE PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
ITEM NUMBER SIX, UH, PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF THE 2026 NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE WITH AMENDMENTS SET FORTH.
UM, UH, WE HAD HAD A, UH, DURING THE WORK SESSION, UH, STEVE HAD PRESENTED ALL THE AMENDMENTS AND WE HAD LOOKED THEM OVER ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS BY THE COMMISSION.
ALSO, MS. CHAIRMAN, NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO YOU CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION AFTER WHENEVER DISCUSSION YOU WANT.
SO, UH, ANYWAYS, UM, ANY OTHER, IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSIONS, I COULD, UH, I CAN GET AN, UH, A, UM, A, A MOTION TO RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF THE 2026 NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE AND THE AMENDMENTS, AND ALSO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
LEMME CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD AND I'LL, I'LL STATE A PROPOSED MOTION FOR, UH, THE CO COMMISSIONERS TO CONSIDER.
AND AFTER I READ IT, YOU CAN SAY, SO MOVED AND SECOND.
THE MOTION WOULD BE, UH, THE MOTION OF THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION TO, UM, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CITY OF COPPEL TO AMEND ITS CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 15, ARTICLE 15 DASH FOUR, AND ADOPT THE NATIONAL ELECTRIC CODE 2026 WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDED ADDITIONS AND AMENDMENTS.
IT'S BEEN SO MOVED AND SECONDED.
UH, ANY OTHER BUSINESS IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING OF SANDERS COMMISSION.
NOW, UH, I, I DID STATE MR. CHAIRMAN AS A RESULT OF YOUR, UH, ORDER THAT YOU ENTERED BACK IN FEBRUARY 5TH, UH, 2026 REGARDING, UH, SUBSTANDARD BUILDING.
IF ANYONE WANTS TO TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT, I SAID I WOULD HANG AROUND FOR A MINUTE OR SO AND TALK TO WHOEVER WANTED TO TALK TO ME ABOUT IT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.