Aug 25, 2026 City Council on 2026-08-25 5:30 PM

INTO WORK SESSION IN THE, UH, FIRST FLOOR CONFERENCE ROOM.

WE HAVE ADJOURNED, UH, FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6 25, AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE

[3. Work Session (Open to the Public) 1st Floor Conference Room Citizen comments will not be heard during the Work Session, but will be heard during the Regular Session under Citizens' Appearance.]

UH, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED AND ENCOURAGED TO JOIN US.

COMMENTS WILL NOT BE HEARD DURING OUR WORK SESSION.

WILL BE HEARD DURING THE REGULAR SESSION UNDER CITIZEN'S APPEARANCE.

UH, ITEM A IS DELIBERATION REGARDING ANY AGENDA ITEMS. ANY QUESTIONS, UH, ON AGENDA TONIGHT? MARK, CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE PICKLE COURT.

CORRECT? YES.

I KNOW THERE WAS GONNA BE A FINAL EXPLANATION.

UH, THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ANSWERED.

HE HADN'T HAD CHANCE.

HE HADN'T SEEN THEM.

OH, OKAY.

THE ANSWERS.

SO WHY DON'T YOU COME OVER AND JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THE QUESTIONS.

YOU HAVE TO COME WITH YOU.

I DON'T, BUT I CAN.

I CAN PULL UP.

SO I HAVE THEM RIGHT HERE.

I'M JOE WEBER.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE MANAGER OF THE TENON PICKLEBALL CENTER.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME OUT HERE TONIGHT.

ARE WE READY? YES.

FANTASTIC.

COPY.

QUESTION NUMBER ONE WAS, HAVE WE DONE AN INVESTIGATION INTO WHY THE CURRENT CODED FAILED SO QUICKLY? THE ANSWER WAS YES.

THERE ARE THREE POSSIBILITIES OF WHICH IT COULD BE ONE OR MULTIPLE.

ONE, IT'S POOR WORKMANSHIP FROM THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTOR.

TWO, THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE BATCH OF SURFACING MATERIAL THAT WAS USED.

OR THREE, THERE ARE FOUNDATIONAL CONCRETE SLAB ISSUES WITH THE COURTS THEMSELVES.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE CONFIRMED UNTIL THE EXISTING SERVICE MATERIAL IS REMOVED.

SECOND QUESTION.

DO WE KNOW IF THE CONTRACTOR FOLLOWED THE MANUFACTURER'S RECOMMENDED INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS? YES.

DO WE HAVE DOCUMENTATION THROUGH ALL OF OUR ONGOING COMMUNICATIONS? WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET A FIRM ANSWER FROM THE VENDOR ON THIS ISSUE AS WELL.

AS WE STAND HERE TODAY, WE ARE, WE STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED CONFIRMATION THAT THE SURFACE WAS APPLIED APPROPRIATELY, ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDED MANUFACTURER INSTRUCTIONS, THIS PROJECT WOULD NOT HAVE TRIGGERED A CONSTRUCTION TYPE INSPECTION.

THIRD QUESTION.

WHAT WAS THE CONTRACTOR'S RESPONSE TO THE FAILURE? THEY STATED THAT IT IS ANY OF THE FOLLOWING, STRUCTURAL CRACKING WITHIN THE CONCRETE SLAB, AGING ACRYLIC SURFACING SYSTEMS, ADHESION FAILURE BETWEEN THE ACRYLIC COATING SYSTEM AND THE UNDERLYING CONCRETE SLAB MOVEMENT OF THE UNDERLYING CONCRETE SLAB, NON-UNIFORM SLASH INADEQUATE SURFACE DRAINAGE, RESULTING IN PROLONGED EXPOSURE TO WATER.

THE CONTRACTOR DID NOT PROVIDE ANY GUIDANCE PRIOR TO THE INSTALLATION THAT THERE MAY BE PROBLEMS. AND WE HAVE NOT HAD THESE PROBLEMS ON THESE COURTS OR ANY OTHER QUAR SURFACE AS WE'VE RESURFACED DIFFERENT COURTS EVERY OTHER YEAR HERE.

WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE ORIGINAL PRODUCT? AND THIS IS THE ACTUAL SERVICING MATERIAL.

IT'S PLEXI PAVE FROM A COMPANY CALLED CALIFORNIA SPORTS SERVICES.

DID WE HAVE THE MANUFACTURER'S REP COME OUT AND INSPECT THE FAILURE MANUFACTURER'S REP DID NOT COME OUT AND INSPECT THE FAILURE AS THEY'RE LOCATED IN MASSACHUSETTS.

THE VENDOR DID PROVIDE THEIR OWN CIVIL ENGINEER TO COME ON SITE AND INSPECT THE COURTS.

THE VENDOR, THE ENGINEER PROVIDED REASONS FOR THE POSSIBLE SURFACE FAILURE.

AND THOSE ARE LISTED IN THE, WHAT WAS THE CONTRACTOR'S RESPONSE TO FAILURE QUESTION.

THE ABOVE.

AND THEN FINAL QUESTION.

THE NEW PRODUCT, LAKE COAL ACRYLIC RESURFACING HAS A LIFE EXPECTANCY OF FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS AND A WARRANTY OF ONE YEAR, WHICH EXCLUDES CRACKING IN THE SUBSTRATE.

ARE WE DOING ANYTHING TO MITIGATE EXISTING CRACKS? ASSUMING THERE ARE SOME ANSWER.

SMALL HAIRLINE SURFACE LEVEL CRACKS ARE EXPECTED TO HAPPEN OVER TIME AND ARE PREVALENT ON MANY COURTS.

THESE CRACKS SHOULD NOT AFFECT PLAY.

PROPER MAINTENANCE OF REGULAR RESURFACING SHOULD MITIGATE ISSUES IN

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THE LONG RUN.

WE BUDGET TO RESURFACE COURTS ROTATING EVERY SIX YEARS, AND THE ISSUES WE ARE FACING NOW IS NOT ONE THAT WE HAVE ENCOUNTERED WITH IN, WITH ANY OTHER PRIOR RESURFACING WORK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER? UM, ARE WE PURSUING LEGAL ACTION WITH BOB? IS, IS INVOLVED, TURN THAT OVER TO BOB.

BOB IS INVOLVED.

LET'S SAY BOB IS INVOLVED.

YEAH, I'M INVOLVED AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WAS JUST DISCLOSED TO YOU AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.

AND ONCE THE MATERIAL'S TAKEN OFF, THEN WE, I'VE TOLD THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T GET RID OF IT, MAKE IT AVAILABLE, AND SO THAT WE CAN TEST IT AND DETERMINE WHAT'S WRONG.

CIRCUMSTANTIALLY, I WOULD SAY BASED ON OUR PAST EXPERIENCE, THERE'S EITHER SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE APPLICATION OR THE MATERIALS THAT THEY, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S OTHER FOUNDATION PROBLEMS. THERE MAY BE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY THE PREP.

UM, DON AND RAMESH ON L THIS IS JUST INFORMATIONAL.

UH, THIS IS ON THE COTTON BELT.

UM, IT'S A MILE.

IT'S IS IT A MILE IS A MILE AND A HALF.

IS IT, IS THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE CITY? NO, NO, IT'S NOT.

OH, THIS IS FROM MOCK BIRD TO, UH, FREEBOARD.

SO THAT'S A, A MILE.

AND I KNOW PART OF THAT IS DALLAS, PART OF THAT PROBABLY OUT US.

BUT, UM, OKAY.

I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS LONGER THAN A MILE AND A HALF.

SO THE, THE MILE AND A HALF IS JUST, THAT'S THROUGHOUT, CORRECT.

ALL THROUGH CUT OUT COURSE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE LONGER THAN THAT.

UM, ALL THE WAY OVER TO FREEPORT.

AND THEN ON H UH, I JUST, THIS IS MORE OF A COMMENTARY, WHETHER IT'S MINDY OR ANYBODY ELSE.

I THINK IT WAS GREAT THAT THEY ARE ASKING THAT THIS PROGRAM HAS, SEEMS TO HAVE EXPLODED, HAS INCREASED QUITE A BIT.

UH, AND THE BUSINESSES ARE USING IT MORE.

UM, SO I'M EXCITED THAT THAT HAPPENED.

THAT THIS COMES UP LIKE AT DRMC AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

A LOT ABOUT FIRST MILE LAST MILE AND HOW DO YOU SOLVE FOR SOME OF THAT.

AND FOR A LONG TIME I WOULD TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN USED.

DO WE ACTUALLY THINK THE SILVER LINE, IS THAT MAKING AN INFLUENCE AT ALL OR ARE PEOPLE JUST MORE AWARE OF THIS, THE PROGRAM FOR THE BUSINESSES OR WHAT? WE ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW.

'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE WHERE THE RIDES ARE NECESSARILY ORIGINATING FROM.

UM, BUT I THINK IT'S, YOU'VE JUST SEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OF THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES AND THEN THE NUMBER OF THE PASSENGERS.

SO.

WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT.

AND I'VE EVEN HEARD TJ FROM DCTA BOARD, UM, TJ GILMORE TALKED ABOUT, WE'LL HOLD THIS UP AS AN EXAMPLE OF A PROGRAM, UM, TO USE FOR THE BUSINESSES.

SO IT'S, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENTARY THAT I THINK IT'S BEEN A GREAT INITIATIVE.

IT'S TAKEN A LITTLE BIT WHILE TO GET IT GOING AND EVERYTHING, BUT I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE'RE SEEING IT GO WHERE IT'S GOING.

JUST TO, TO PILE ON THAT ONE, THE CHAIRMAN OF DCTA, PAUL MM-HMM .

UM, CAN'T THINK OF HIS NAME.

ANYWAY.

CEO OF DCTA IS VERY PLEASED WITH THE PROGRAM.

HE WAS VERY EXCITED TO SEE IT GROW LIKE IT HAS AND AS, UH, RIGHT.

USING IT KIND OF AS A, AS A, UH, ADVERTISEMENT FOR OTHER CITIES.

HE HAD TOLD ME THE SAME THING.

UH, AND I, I THINK HE WAS POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT EXPANDING THE, THE CONCEPT, UH, EVEN WITH US OVER TIME.

SO IT'S BEEN A GREAT SUCCESS.

I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

UH, RAMESH, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR ON, UH, ITEM E AS IN ECHO, UH, THE GENERATOR FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, NO, UH, DS IN DELTA, THE GENERATOR FOR, UH, UH, COST LIBRARY.

UH, SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UH, FOR THE, AS LONG AS THE LIBRARY HAS EXISTED, WE HAVE NOT HAD A GENERATOR.

IS THAT CORRECT? I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT THE LAST PART OF THAT? UH, SO THIS FOR ITEM D AS IN DELTA? YES.

SO AS LONG AS THE COSTLY LIBRARY HAS EXISTED, WE HAVE NOT HAD A GENERATOR SO FAR.

BUT THE GENERATOR WE HAVE FOR THE COFFEE LIBRARY, WE'RE ACTUALLY INSTALLING THE ONE THAT WE PULLED FROM THE ART CENTER WHEN WE PUT A LARGER, UH, GENERATOR AT THE ART CENTER.

ART CENTER.

SO WE HAVE THAT GENERATOR ALREADY.

ALRIGHT.

BASICALLY NO COST.

SO, SO IT IS FOR THE ITEM E IS THE ONE THAT WE ARE BUYING BRAND NEW FOR THE SENIOR CENTER.

AND, AND SENIOR CENTER HAS NEVER HAD AN AGENDA BEFORE.

ALRIGHT.

AND, AND, UH, GIVEN THAT IT'S A QUARTER MILLION DOLLAR FOR THE LIFE TERM OF, UH, UH, OWNERSHIP, IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR REASON WHY WE ARE DOING IT THIS TIME? I MEAN, UH, THIS YEAR, UH, FROM A STANDPOINT WHEN POWER GOES OUT AT THE SENIOR CENTER, FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, THAT THERE'S AUXILIARY POWER IN PLACE.

AND IT'S

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JUST TIME.

IT'S A PART OF OUR FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLANT PLANNING IS IT'S TIME FOR THIS ROTATION TO COME UP.

SO THIS MEANS WE WILL BE TRYING TO DO THIS FOR ALL MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS, FOR ONES THAT HAVE EVOLVED FROM PUBLIC SAFETY TO THE CORE, TO THE LIBRARY, TO THIS BUILDING.

UM, SO THOSE TYPES OF BUILDINGS, YES, BUT I, I CAN'T SAY EVERY MUNICIPAL BUILDING.

YEAH, CORRECT.

THAT'S WHY WE DID THE LIBRARY.

UM, ORIGINALLY THE SENIOR CENTER WAS ACTUALLY SCHEDULED BEFORE THE LIBRARY THAT GENERATED CONTROL FROM THE ART CENTER UP THE LIBRARY, BUT NOT AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

THAT'S WHY WE LOST FROM UP.

THANK YOU, KEVIN.

I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT ON, ON THAT, UM, YOU AND I WERE THERE AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

IS THAT LAST MONTH? YEAH.

WHEN THERE WAS THAT BLIP IN POWER AND THEY WERE TRYING TO MAKESHIFT, UH, HVAC SYSTEM AND, AND STUFF.

AND I DO THINK THAT THAT BE, YOU KNOW, THAT TENDS TO BE A MORE VULNERABLE POPULATION THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT BACKUP SYSTEMS IN, IN PLACE AND STUFF.

AND EVERYONE WAS VERY GRATEFUL THAT THE CITY WAS SO REACTIVE TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN THEIR RESPONSE, LIKE TO QUICKLY GET OUT THERE AND TRY TO GET SOME SORT OF SOLUTION.

SO PROGRAMMING COULD STILL GO ON, BUT I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE US PROVIDING THAT EXTRA LEVEL OF PE YOU KNOW, WHERE PEOPLE CAN STILL BE COOL IN THIS HEAT THAT, THAT WE FACE.

SO I, I DEFINITELY THINK IT'S A GOOD MOVE FOR THE SENIORS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON CONSENT? ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM B, WHICH IS A DELIBERATION REGARDING THE COP ARTS CENTER.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

FIRST I, EVERYBODY GET AND TALK ABOUT THE COUPLE.

I KNOW.

I'M LIKE, WHAT IS HAPPENING? WHERE ARE THEY GOING? I WAS LOOKING FOR SHERRY.

THERE SHE IS.

THERE'S ONE SEAT OPEN AND I, OH, OKAY.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE THIS TIME TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE, UM, ARTS CENTER.

SO TONIGHT I'M HERE TO PROVIDE A FOLLOW-UP DISCUSSION REGARDING COUPLE ARTS CENTER'S, FUTURE OPERATIONS AND COST RECOVERY GOALS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO YOU BACK IN FEBRUARY.

SO, BEFORE I GET STARTED, UH, I WANNA INTRODUCE OUR NEW ART CENTER MANAGER.

HER NAME IS JENNY BISHOP.

SHE'S BEEN WITH US FOR ALMOST FIVE MONTHS NOW AND WE ARE SO EXCITED TO HAVE HER ENERGY AND TALENT WITH US EVERY DAY.

SO JUST WANTED TO PUT A THANKS WITH A NAME THERE.

WELCOME.

SO TO START THIS EVENING, I WANTED TO DO A BRIEF RECAP ON HOW THE KALE ARTS CENTER IS FUNDED.

SO THE KALE ARTS CENTER IS FULLY FUNDED.

IT'S SUPPORTED BY THE KAEL RECREATION AND DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, OR FOR SHORT CRDC.

AND THEN A SMALL PORTION OF THE ARTS CENTER IS SUPPORTED BY THE HOTEL OCCUPANT OCCUPANCY TAX, OR THE HOT FUND.

SO IT, THE ART CENTER IS NOT FUNDED BY PROPERTY TAXES.

CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? IS THAT TRUE OF ANY OTHER FACILITY WE HAVE IN TOWN? THE LIBRARY, THE CORE, THE BIODIVERSITY CENTER.

NOT FULLY FUNDED AS FAR AS GENERAL FUND CRDC.

WELL, I MEAN, ARE ANY OF OUR OTHER FACILITIES FULLY FUNDED BY SALES TAX AND HOT FUND? NOT FULLY FUNDED, NO.

THE ART CENTER'S THE ONLY FACILITY FULLY FUNDED.

THERE ARE ASPECTS OF PROJECTS THAT HAPPEN AT SOME OF THOSE FACILITIES, LIKE THE CORE, WHENEVER WE DO POOL REPLACEMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT'S FUNDED THROUGH CRDC.

AND ONE OFF ITEMS? YES.

YEP.

BUT IN TERMS OF ANNUAL OPERATIONAL COSTS, WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER FACILITY FUNDED EXCLUSIVELY WITH SALES.

THOSE FACILITIES ARE ALL YES.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO THE CRDC RECEIVES ITS MONEY FROM THE HALFEN SELLS TAX THAT IS COLLECTED THROUGH TRANSACTIONS WITHIN CABELL.

THE CENTER EARNS MONEY FROM THEIR TICKET SALES AND FACILITY RENTALS, AND THAT EARNED REVENUE GOES BACK INTO THE CRDC FUND BALANCE TO SUPPORT THEIR FUTURE OPERATIONS.

DURING OUR LAST UPDATE ON FEBRUARY 24TH, STAFF PRESENTED FINANCIAL AND OPERATIONAL DATA FROM FISCAL YEAR OF 2025.

CURRENTLY THE ART CENTER'S CROSS RECOVERY AS A WHOLE IS AT 32% TO BREAK, TO BREAK THAT PERCENTAGE DOWN.

OUR CURRENT REVENUE IS GENERATED FROM THE THREE AREAS YOU SEE UP THERE.

61% COMES FROM PRIVATE THIRD PARTY RENTALS.

37% COMES FROM TICKET SALES FROM OUR PRESENTED PROGRAMMING, AND 2% COMES FROM OTHER FEES SUCH AS PLAY BILL, ADVERTISING AND INVOICES FOR ABOVE BASIC SERVICES.

YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE THAT THERE'S A FACILITIES FEE LISTED UP THERE AT 0% PER COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION.

THAT FEE WAS

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REMOVED BACK IN 2024.

BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE DID PREVIOUSLY COLLECT REVENUE THROUGH THAT.

SO DURING THAT FEBRUARY CONVERSATION, COUNCIL EXPRESSED A HIGH LEVEL OF SATISFACTION WITH THE QUALITY OF THE ART CENTER'S OPERATIONS.

WE ALSO DISCUSSED COST RECOVERY AND WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE ART CENTER.

WHILE A SPECIFIC COST RECOVERY TARGET WAS NOT ESTABLISHED, COUNCIL DID PROVIDE CLEAR GUIDANCE ON A FEW AREAS.

SO TO START OFF, THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY AGREE THAT THE ART CENTERS OPERATE OPERATING SUCCESSFULLY AND IT'S A TRUE AMENITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SECONDLY, WE WERE ASKED TO FOCUS ON QUALITY OVER QUANTITY, BUYING FEWER SHOW TITLES TO ENSURE THAT EVERY BOOKING, EVERY BOOKING MAINTAINS THE HIGH STANDARDS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THIRD, OPTIMIZE PRIVATE RENTAL OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE THAT EARNED INCOME.

AND LASTLY, ACTIVELY SUPPORT OUR LOCAL RESIDENT ART COMPANIES TOWARDS A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE.

IF COUNCIL DESIRES FOR THE ARTS CENTER TO ACHIEVE, TO ACHIEVE INTENTIONAL REVENUE GROWTH, WHILE CONTINUING TO SUPPORT BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND OUR RESIDENT COMPANIES POLICY ADJUSTMENTS MUST BE CONSIDERED.

TONIGHT WE ARE SEEKING COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION TO CLEARLY DEFINE THE CENTER'S PRIORITIES, COMMUNITY IMPACT, AND LONG-TERM FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY.

CURRENTLY, THE ART CENTER DATA SHOWS THAT WITHOUT FUTURE POLICY CHANGES, WE CANNOT DRASTICALLY INCREASE OUR EARNED REVENUE.

SO, TO HELP GUIDE OUR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING, I WOULD LIKE TO POSE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATIONS.

SO THE FIRST ONE UP THERE IS, WHAT IS THE FISCAL EXPECTATION TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL RESIDENT COMPANIES UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WILL HELP DEVELOP THE ANSWER FOR THE SECOND QUESTION.

AND ARE WE TARGETING A SPECIFIC COST RECOVERY PERCENTAGE MOVING FORWARD? AND IF SO, WHAT IS THAT GOAL? TO GIVE US SOME HELPFUL CONTEXT, THE CHART ON THE SCREEN LOOKS BACK OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

IT TELLS A STORY OF THE COST RECOVERY JOURNEY THAT THE ART CENTER HAS MAINTAINED SO FAR AND CAN HELP WHEN CONSIDERING THAT COST RECOVERY GOAL ON THE CHART, YOU WILL SEE A LARGE JUMP IN 2022.

THAT WAS THE FIRST OPERATIONAL SEASON FOR PRESENTED PROGRAMMING IN OUR THIRD PARTY RENTALS.

IN 2023, COUNCIL APPROVED A MID-YEAR STAFF EXPANSION FROM 9.5 FTES TO 18 FTES TO SUPPORT ADDITIONAL THIRD PARTY RENTALS.

PRESENTED PROGRAMMING AND HIGH QUALITY SERVICE FOR OUR PATRONS IN 2024.

WE INCREASED PROGRAMMING COSTS BY INTRODUCING A HEADLINER AND INCREASE THE VOLUME OF THIRD PARTY RENTALS, WHICH IN TURN CREATED A CON, CREATED A CONSISTENT COST RECOVERY AT THAT 31%.

AND THEN IN 2025, WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THE COST RECOVERY AGAIN BY ADDING MORE THIRD PARTY RENTALS AND STABILIZING THE PRESENTED PROGRAMMING TO WHAT YOU SEE TODAY.

SO USING THAT INFORMATION, LET'S RETURN BACK TO OUR DISCUSSION QUESTIONS.

WHAT IS THE FISCAL EXPECTATION TO SUPPORT OUR RESIDENT COMPANIES? AND ARE WE TARGETING A SPECIFIC COST RECOVERY GOAL? SO I'M HERE AND AVAILABLE TO HELP GUIDE YOUR DISCUSSION.

I I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING A COST RECOVERY PERCENTAGE FOR A FACILITY FUNDED ENTIRELY BY SALES TAX AND HOT FUND THAT ARE PAID ALMOST ENTIRELY BY PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE HERE? WHY ARE WE NOT DISCUSSING COST RECOVERY PERCENTAGES? YEAH.

FOR ALL THE FACILITIES THAT ARE FUNDED BY PROPERTY.

SO SINCE THE ARC CENTER HAS BEEN OPEN, IT'S BEEN A CONSTANT CONVERSATION FOR THE COUNCIL AND WE HAVE SOUGHT AND CONTINUED TO SEEK INFORMATION FROM THE COUNCIL.

OH, NO, I, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I UNDERSTAND.

MY QUESTION IS, THAT'S WHY WE KEEP WHY ARE WE AS A COUNCIL? OKAY, I TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE, RIGHT? NO ONE'S ASKING FOR THE BIODIVERSITY CENTER TO SET A COST RECOVERY PERCENTAGE OR FOR THE LIBRARY.

UH, AND THOSE ARE ALL FUNDED BY PROPERTY TAX, WHICH IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THINK IS TOO HIGH OFTENTIMES.

BUT, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO OUR LATEST NUMBERS, ACCORDING TO THE MAYOR, 66% OF OUR SALES TAX IS PAID BY NON-RESIDENTS.

AND I IMAGINE PROBABLY ABOUT 99% OF OUR HOP FUND IS PAID BY NON-RESIDENTS 'CAUSE THEY'RE STAYING AT A HOTEL.

SO WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WHAT, WHAT'S, WHY IS THE CALL, WHY IS THE ART CENTER BEING SINGLED OUT WHEN IT'S NOT EVEN FUNDED BY PROPERTY TAX? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, RAMESH.

WE DID, UH, APPROVE ADDITIONAL, UM, HEADCOUNT AND WITH ADDITIONAL HEADCOUNT, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE PAYING IT THROUGH THE SALES TAX, UH, AND THAT SALES TAX MONEY COULD BE USED FOR ANYTHING, UH, IN THE CITY.

I, I DON'T, I HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT, BUT, BUT I WILL SAY, IF THAT'S THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING, WHY EVEN SAID IT AT 31%? WHY, WHY, UH, JUST GIVE IT A WAIT FOR THE REST COAST AND NOT HAVE ANY SHOWS? WELL, THAT, THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH MY QUESTION.

MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING A COST RECOVERY FOR THIS FACILITY WHEN IT'S NOT FUNDED WITH PROPERTY TAX? AND, UH, GG GIVEN, GIVEN THAT

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IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONLY USED FOR, UM, THE ART CENTER.

KEEP IN MIND, I, I'M SUPPORT OF THE CURRENT FUNDING FOR ART CENTER, BUT I DO THINK HAVING AN AND AND A COST RECOVERY TARGET, UH, BETWEEN 30 TO 40 IS A GOOD LONG TERM, UH, THING.

SO, SO THAT WAY THE RESIDENTIAL COMPANIES ALSO VALUE THE TIME THAT THEY'RE GETTING.

SO IF SOMETHING IS ZERO, IT DOESN'T HAVE A VALUE.

SO HAVING SOME KIND OF A CANCELLATION FEE OR A 5% OR 10% COST RECOVERY WOULD SET BEST PRACTICES, UH, AND, AND MAKE THEM MORE EFFICIENT AS WELL AND MAKE THEIR SHOWS, UH, BETTER.

SO PEOPLE WANT TO GO AND SEE, SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF CUTTING THE FUNDING, BUT I'M IN FAVOR OF, UM, CHARGING THE RESIDENTIAL SOMETHING MAYBE WHETHER IT'S CANCELLATION OR FIGHTING PERCENT COST .

SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING RAMES, BUT I, IT STILL DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION.

WHY IS THIS FACILITY THAT'S NOT FUNDED BY PROPERTY TAX BEING SINGLED OUT IS REQUIRED IN A SPECIFIC COST RECOVERY? UH, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER, BUT, UH, CORE HAS A COST RECOVERY OF 68%.

AND WHEN, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE, UH, WHEN WE NEED TO INCREASE THE COST RECOVERY, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO INCREASE THE SUBSCRIPTION FEE THAT THE RESIDENTS PAY.

WHEREAS FOR, FOR, UM, ART CENTER, WE DON'T HAVE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE DIALS THAT WE CAN TURN.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS A DISCUSSION IS NOT GOING TO BE, UH, WELL, WE'RE NOT DECIDING, I GUESS WE HAVE DECIDING WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO, UH, INCREASE THE COST RECORDING PERCENTAGE.

BUT LET'S, LET'S SEE WHAT EVERYONE THINKS.

I'M DONE.

THERE ARE DIALS THAT YOU CAN, CAN DIAL ON THE CORE OR THE ART CENTER.

YOU CAN INCREASE FOR THE CORE, YES, YOU COULD INCREASE TICKET PRICES ON THE, AT THE ART CENTER YOU CAN INCREASE THE, THE FEES TO THE RESIDENT COMPANY.

BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO THE STAFF TO DETERMINE WHAT THE OPTIMUM RATES ARE FOR THOSE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE WHERE THEY ARE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE, ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.

UH, I'M SORRY, UH, BIJI YOU WERE NEXT? YEAH.

UH, MIKE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

I'M LOOKING AT THE CITY BUDGET FY 26 AMENDED.

THE CRDC FUNDING IS 8.2 MILLION.

ALL OF THEM ARE FROM SALES TAX MM-HMM.

FUNDING.

AND WHAT ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE PUT ASIDE BECAUSE OUR EXPENDITURE AT THIS ART CENTER INCREASED FOR BUDGET? YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN INCREASING EVERY YEAR.

I, I DEFER TO JESSICA AND THE PARKS BOARD BECAUSE THEY SET, ESTABLISHED THE PRIORITIES FOR FUNDING FOR PARK RELATED EXPENSES.

SO EACH YEAR, THE CRDC BOARD AND THE PARK BOARD, THEY, THE WORK PROGRAM IS ALREADY SET ASIDE TO, UH, MAINTAIN OPERATIONS AT THE ART CENTER.

SO THIS IS NOT ANYTHING THEY HAVE TO DEBATE EACH YEAR.

THE ART CENTER IS FULLY FUNDED THROUGH THE CRDC AND THEN ANYTHING ELSE, WE THEN SLATE IN PROJECTS BASED ON COMMUNITY INPUT OR NEED OR JUST REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE.

AND TO, TO DATE, WE HAVE NOT DELAYED ANY OTHER PROJECT IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE ART CENTER.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE NEEDED TO DO THUS FAR WITH THE, THE COUNCIL OF SUPPORT AND COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

SO LET ME ASK, UH, THAT'S NOT, LET ME REPHRASE MY QUESTION.

THE BUDGET IS 8.2 MILLION.

WE ARE USING 3 MILLION FOR ART CENTER.

SO ABOUT 39% OF THE BUDGET IS USED FOR ART CENTER.

I KNOW THERE ARE PART BROAD PROJECTS, 20 ITEMS EVERY YEAR.

THEY HAVE A LIST.

THERE ARE PROJECTS WE COULD DO IF WE HAD 8 MILLION, BUT WE ARE NOT, BECAUSE WE ARE SETTING ASIDE FOR 3 MILLION FOR ART CENTER.

SURE.

THERE'S ACTUALLY, THERE'S THERE MONEY IN THE CRDC FUND BALANCE AND THAT'S PUT INTO THE BUDGET EACH YEAR BASED ON THE PROJECTS WE'VE ALREADY REPRIORITIZED.

AND THE ART CENTER IS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF.

THE OPERATIONS ARE ALREADY THERE.

SO THERE'S STILL FUNDING AVAILABLE TO PULL IN PROJECTS.

WE JUST DO THE PROJECTS THAT WE CAN DO CAPACITY WISE AND THAT ARE PRIORITIZED.

BUT, BUT WE'RE NOT FOREGOING ANY OTHER PROJECTS BECAUSE THE ART CENTER IS USING 3 MILLION OF THE, OF THE BUDGET ANNUAL.

BUT IF YOU HAVE INCREASED INCOME FROM ART CENTER, WE DON'T NEED TO USE THE CRDC FUND.

SO WE CAN USE IT FOR PARK PROJECTS OR PARK RELATED PROJECTS.

THE THEORETICALLY, YES.

BUT WE'RE, YEAH, WE'RE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO GET TO GET DONE.

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MARK, WERE YOU NEXT? UM, YEAH, THE QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK WAS, UM, WE'VE ALREADY ADJUSTED THE BUDGETS FOR, UH, NORTH CENTER AND, UH, OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE DRAWING ON THAT, UH, HALF-CENT SALES TAX TO, TO REFLECT AS IF THE, UM, DESTINATION, UM, CHANGE, UH, HAD IS OCCURRING.

JUST, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'VE GOT THAT, UH, KEVIN, SO I WAS GONNA BRING UP THE FACT THAT, UM, I BELIEVE THE LAST AUDITED ACTUALS IS THAT 2324, UH, COULD HAVE BEEN 24, 25, 24, 25.

DIDN'T THEY ACTUALIZE AN 11, ABOUT $11 MILLION IN SALES TAX UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE BUDGETING? GOSH, UM, I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT NUMBER 'CAUSE I JUST LOOKED AT THE BUDGET, MEANING THAT WHILE WE ARE BUDGETING AT $8 MILLION, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ACTUALIZED BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT THAT WE ARE STILL RECEIVING THE FULL SALES TAX.

SO THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL $3 MILLION THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY RECEIVING VERSUS BUDGETING.

AND WHAT I'M HEARING FROM OUR DIRECTOR IS THAT WE HAVE ALL THE FUNDS THAT WE NEED TO PROPERLY EXECUTE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING BEFORE US.

SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE TOOK A NEGATIVE, YOU KNOW, HIT IN THE, THE LAWSUIT AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD GO DOWN.

BUT WE'RE STILL ACTUALIZING PRETTY HEFTY AMOUNT I WOULD SAY IN RELATION TO THAT.

SO, AND WHICH IS SUSTAINING THE FUND BALANCE THAT WILL ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT FUTURE ART PROJECTS.

IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT TO SAY? CORRECT.

I THOUGHT I SAW SOME NUMBERS, AND THIS IS DIRECTED TO WHOEVER HAS AN ANSWER.

I DUNNO, , UH, I THOUGHT I SAW SOME NUMBERS THAT THE ART CENTER'S THROWING OFF HOW MUCH PER REVENUE PER YEAR THROWING OFF CREATING GENERATING, OH, I WAS LIKE THROWING OFF THE ACTUAL REVENUE PER YEAR THAT WE'RE CREATING WITH THE EVENT RENTALS TICKET SALES.

SO I KNOW I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I DO KNOW IT'S ABOUT, UM, WASN'T IT ABOUT 800,000? YEAH.

SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.

AND THEN, AND THEN THE SALES TAX AND THE HOT FUNDER THEN PAYING THE, THE DIFFERENCE, WHICH WOULD BE ROUGHLY 2.2 MILLION.

SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT SPENDING 3 MILLION, RIGHT? YEAH.

ON THE FACILITY TOTAL, WE'RE SPENDING 2.2 MILLION.

AND THEN IT'S ACTUALLY THROWING OFF 800,000 IN REVENUE ON ITS OWN.

UH, THANK YOU.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO COMMENT, I'M SORRY, DID, I'M GONNA FINISH MINE THEN.

DONNA , UM, ON THE, ON THE CRDC PROJECTS, CORRECT ME IF I REMEMBER, WE'RE BASICALLY, UM, CAPACITY LIMITED ON PROJECTS, NOT FINANCE.

OUR, OUR CORRECT.

THE $8 MILLION, $8 MILLION IS NOT A LIMIT ON THE CAPACITY OF A FUND.

IT IS REALLY IN CAPACITY OF STAFF, OF STAFF OF JUST BEING ABLE TO MANAGE THE PROJECTS, BRING THEM TO THE COUNCIL, BRING THEM THROUGH THE BOARDS, AND, AND GET THOSE DONE AT A HIGH LEVEL, WHICH IS ALWAYS OUR GOAL.

SO IT'S NOT REALLY THE FUND LIMITING US.

MM-HMM.

UH, DON AND JIM, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I, I EVEN THINK WE NEED TO PULL BACK, UH, UH, TO A HIGHER LEVEL TALK ABOUT WHICH BUCKET EVERYTHING'S COMING OUT OF IT.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THAT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I GUESS IF WE DIDN'T HAVE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEFICIT IS AT THE PARKS, $4 MILLION IN EXPENSES FOR THE PARKS OR SOMETHING, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT.

WE COULD SPEND THAT MONEY ON SOMETHING ELSE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE A $2 MILLION DEFICIT AT THE LIBRARY WE COULD SPEND THAT MONEY ON.

SO YOU COULD SAY THAT PROBABLY ABOUT ANY OF THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE CITY, IT HAPPENS THAT THE ASSET SITTING OVER IN OLD TOWN IS THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY CAN GENERATE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.

I GUESS THE CORE GENERATES SOME MONEY, BUT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SPEND SOME OF THE, IF IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT ONE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COVER THOSE EXPENSES IF, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET RID OF THAT ALSO.

SO I, THAT'S WHY I, I GUESS WE'RE GETTING HUNG UP A LITTLE BIT ON WHERE THE FUNDING'S COMING FROM AND THAT'S ALL FINE AND GOOD TO, TO DEBATE AND EVERYTHING, BUT ALL THE SERVICES ARE, ARE PAID FOR BY PROPERTY TAXES OR SALES TAX OR SOMETHING ELSE.

NONE OF THESE SERVICES PAY FOR THEMSELVES.

UM, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, JUST FROM A FEE THAT'S AT THE DOOR.

SO I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO GET TOO BOGGED DOWN IN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DEFICIT HERE AND THEREFORE WE GOTTA MAKE UP FOR IT SOME SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT YOU COULD MAKE THAT ARGUMENT ABOUT ANYTHING IN

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THE CITY.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A STATEMENT.

AND IF I COULD INTERJECT REALLY QUICK.

SO I KNOW WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT COST RECOVERY GOALS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION BECAUSE THAT REALLY CREATES THE TARGET FOR THAT SECOND QUESTION.

DEPENDING ON YOUR ANSWER OF OUR FISCAL SUPPORT OF THE RESIDENT COMPANIES, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IS GONNA CREATE THAT BALANCE FOR US IF WE CAN INCREASE OUR COST RECOVERY NUMBERS OR IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO.

SO I'VE GOT JIM AND THEN BRIANNA AND THEN DON, JIM.

WELL, UH, TWO QUESTIONS THEN.

SO I GUESS WITH RESPECT TO THE HOT FUND THAT WE'RE USING TO, FOR PART OF THE COST OF THE ART CENTER, I MEAN, WE'RE RELATIVELY LIMITED IN THE TYPES OF THINGS WE CAN EVEN SPEND THAT MONEY ON.

AND AS I RECALL, PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA FOR THIS NEXT SESSION IS TO TRY TO GET THEM TO WRITE THE LAW TO EXPAND THE KIND OF THE DESCRIBED USES SO THAT WE COULD USE IT ON SOME OTHER THINGS.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EVEN LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN USE THAT FOR.

AND THEN I GUESS I WOULD ASK YOU, 'CAUSE I I'M GONNA ASK, UH, ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON THE QUESTION.

UM, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE FISCAL EXPECTATION TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL RESCUE COASTS MM-HMM .

I MEAN, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? ARE WE, ARE WE SAYING, ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO INCREASE WHAT WE'RE CHARGING THE REST COASTS FOR THEIR USE OF THE FACILITY AS A WAY TO BOOST COST RECOVERY? SO THAT IS UP FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION IF TODAY WE DON'T CHARGE ANYTHING IF SO WITH THE CURRENT CURRENTLY FISCALLY RIGHT? WE PROVIDE FULL SUPPORT FOR THE RESIDENT COMPANIES.

WE HAVE DONE THAT SINCE THE OPENING OF THE BUILDING.

UM, WE GIVE THEM THE SPACE, WE PROVIDE EVERYTHING THAT, THAT THEY NEED BESIDES THEIR ACTUAL OPERATIONS.

AND SO IF WE ARE LOOKING AT, OR IF COUNCIL DECIDES THAT WE WANT TO INCREASE THE REVENUE AT THE ART CENTER, THAT'S WHERE IT'S, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY WITH THE, THE RESIDENT COMPANIES BECAUSE WE HAVE MAXED OUT OUR CAPACITY WITH OUR THIRD PARTY RENTALS, WHICH IS A HUGE PORTION OF OUR REVENUE RIGHT NOW.

AND OUR, OUR TICKET SHOWS ARE PRETTY IN LINE WITH HOW THEY'RE WORKING.

AND SO THAT THIRD ARM OF SERVICE, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, IS THE RESIDENT COMPANIES MM-HMM .

AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT GOES BACK TO.

IF YOUR DISCUSSION IS LET'S FULLY SUPPORT THE RESIDENT COMPANIES AS WE ARE DOING, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT PATH AND DO THAT.

YOU JUST HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT 32, 30 1% IS WHERE WE WOULD STAY AT COST RECOVERY FOR THE ART CENTER.

SO MY FOLLOW UP WOULD BE THEN ARE WE, ARE WE GOING TO FOLLOW UP THEN AND INCREASE OUR EXPECTATION FOR THE SENIORS TO FUND A LARGER PART OF THE OPERATIONAL COST OF THE SENIOR CENTER? 'CAUSE I MEAN THEY'RE MEMBERSHIP COSTS ARE RIGHT, EFFECTIVELY SUBSIDIZED BY THE CITY.

ARE WE GOING TO INCREASE THE ANYTHING THAT WE CHARGE DOWN THE BIODIVERSITY CENTER TO OFFSET THE COST? WE THERE? I MEAN, ARE WE GONNA CHARGE A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH FOR A LIBRARY CARD? RIGHT.

IF WE AREN'T LOOKING ACROSS THE COMMUNITY AT OTHER FACILITIES AS WELL.

I MEAN, ALL OF THAT WOULD ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS ONE FACILITY, WHY THE LOCAL RESCUE CODES ARE BEING SINGLED OUT WHEN WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT ANYONE ELSE THAT USES ANY OTHER AMENITY IN TOWN.

UH, AND, AND IMPOSING THE SAME EXPECTATION ON THEM.

SO I, I'M, I'M OPPOSED TO THE WHOLE CONCEPT.

I MEAN, I DO THINK I'M IN FAVOR OF PROVIDING GUIDANCE TO STAFF THAT WE SHOULD TRY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO ENHANCE OUR EVENT RENTALS AND, AND YOU KNOW, ENHANCE THE SHOWS.

AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE, OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, UH, UNDER JANINE'S GUIDANCE AND NOW OUR CURRENT DIRECTOR, I KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN A REALLY GOOD SENSE FOR WHAT SHOWS BOOK MORE TICKETS AND WHAT SHOWS DON'T.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE KID FRIENDLY SHOWS OR, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, THE SHOWS LIKE LEON RIMES ARE SOMETHING REAL POPULAR.

BUT, SO I THINK WE'VE GOT A LOT BETTER SENSE FOR HOW TO RUN IT AND, AND WHAT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT SELLS TICKETS, WHAT SELLS SEEDS.

AND I WOULD, I CERTAINLY AM IN FAVOR OF ENCOURAGING STAFF TO CONTINUE TO PURSUE THAT AND FINE TUNE THAT AS WE GO AND KEEP AS APPRISED.

BUT I, I'M NO MORE IN FAVOR OF SETTING A SPECIFIC COST RECOVERY PERCENTAGE FOR THE ART CENTER, PARTICULARLY SINCE IT'S NOT EVEN FUNDED BY PROPERTY TAX.

AND I AM FOR SETTING A COST RECOVERY PERCENTAGE FOR ANY OTHER FACILITY OR AMENITY WE OFFER.

BRIANNA, BRIANNA.

SO I'LL PIGGYBACK ON THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE, AND I THINK TO YOUR POINT IS WHY ISN'T THIS PART OF A BIGGER DISCUSSION? I FEEL LIKE, I GUESS TO YOUR POINT JIM, LIKE WHY ARE WE SINGLING OUT THE ART CENTER? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT NUMBER OF WHERE WE SHOULD LAND, IF ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE

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AND IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GIVE AND TAKE WHEREVER MIGHT THAT MIGHT BE.

AND SO I GUESS MY THOUGHT WAS THAT THIS WOULD BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION WE WOULD HAVE AT RETREAT IF THAT'S WHERE IT FITS.

BUT I GUESS TO YOUR POINT IS THERE'S A, THERE'S, THERE'S BUCKETS MONEY ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO WITH A HOT TAX.

AND I'D LIKE TO NOT TALK ABOUT THIS IN A VACUUM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IMPACTS EVERYTHING ELSE.

I THINK, I'M NOT SURE IT DOES IMPACT ANYTHING ELSE.

I THINK YOU HAVE TO TAKE EACH ONE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CASE BY CASE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, I AT THE CORE, BUT THE SENIOR TENDER YEAH.

OR THE CORE, WE, WE COULD INCREASE THE TICKET OR THE COST OF MEMBERSHIP AT THE CORE, BUT YOUR MEMBERSHIP'S GONNA GO DOWN.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE, THAT'S A COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT.

UM, SAME THING GOES WITH THE LIBRARY.

UH, WE COULD CHARGE, WHAT'D YOU SAY, A HUNDRED DOLLARS A A MONTH LIBRARY CARD OR RIGHT.

OR THERE'S A SENIOR CENTER CENTER OR ANY OF THAT.

SO, YEAH.

BUT SO, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANNA START CHARGING EACH CITIZEN, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED DOLLARS OR A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR CALLING INTO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

SO, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY THE REASON THAT THIS ONE'S COMING UP IS THE ART CENTER IS A BIT DIFFERENT.

IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A FIRE DEPARTMENT, IT'S NOT A POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, IT'S NOT A LIBRARY.

UM, THERE ARE OTHER FACILITIES THAT COULD BE HELD THE SAME, BUT YOU KNOW, EVEN REC CENTERS AREN'T, AREN'T HELD TO A COST RECOVERY MODEL.

SO.

GOOD.

GOOD QUESTION.

AND THEN I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION ACTUALLY.

UM, AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER I'M COMPLETELY FINE WITH THAT AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT ANOTHER TIME.

BUT HOW DOES OUR FACILITY COMPARE, IF ANY, TO OTHER FACILITIES AROUND THE AREA THAT MAY BE IN A SIMILAR SITUATION AND HAVE A SIMILAR COST STRUCTURE? RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO CHARGING THEIR LOCAL, UM, RESIDENT ART COMPANIES AND SO ON.

DO WE HAVE ANY OF THAT DATA? YES, WE DO.

WE ACTUALLY LOOK AT ALL THE SURROUNDING ARTS FACILITIES, PERFORMING ARTS CENTERS.

AND SO WE ARE, WE ARE THE ONLY PERFORMING ARTS CENTER THAT DOES NOT CHARGE SOME TYPE OF FEE STRUCTURE FOR RESIDENT COMPANIES IN THE FACILITY.

AND THEN I DID WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON THE, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS IS BROUGHT BACK UP WAS BECAUSE AT THAT FEBRUARY CONVERSATION THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT COST RECOVERY AND WHAT SHOULD THE COST RECOVERY OF THE ART CENTER BE AFTER WE CAME OFF THE DEVOS STUDY A FEW YEARS AGO.

SO AS STAFF WE TOOK THAT BACK AS, OKAY, WE NEED TO COME BACK TO YOU GUYS TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S AN ACTUAL COST RECOVERY GOAL YOU WANT AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE POSING THAT AND BRINGING THAT BACK TO YOU.

I'VE GOT DON AND KEVIN AND JIM, THEN BE YOU THEN RAMESH, , DON, UM, IF WE CHARGE THE RESCO ABOUT FIVE, LET'S SAY 5% OR WHATEVER, AND I, I THINK I REMEMBER SEEING SOME NUMBERS THROWN OUT THERE OR WHATEVER, BUT HOW MUCH ARE WE ACTUALLY, ARE WE MOVING THE NEEDLE AT ALL? I MEAN, LET'S, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH REVENUE, HOW MUCH MORE COST RECOVERY IS THERE IF YOU CHARGE 'EM 5%? YEAH, SO IT, THERE'S, GIVEN THE, THE DATA THAT WE HAVE MM-HMM .

I COULDN'T SAY IT'S 1%, 2%, 3%, BUT TO BE HONEST, IT'S NOT A LOT.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, LET'S SAY 5% IS A GOOD NUMBER TO CHARGE FOR THAT.

WELL, I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I STRUGGLE A LITTLE BIT IS IF, IF WE'RE LOOKING TO GET FROM 32% TO 40% OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS BY CHARGING, THE REST GOES, I DON'T KNOW IF, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN CHARGE 'EM ENOUGH TO EVER GET THERE, UH, TO BEGIN WITH.

SO IT'S A, IT'S SORT OF A FUTILE EXERCISE QUITE FRANKLY.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCY OF THE ART CENTER OVER TIME, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE PLATEAUED AT 30, 32%.

THAT SEEMS TO BE WHERE WE'RE GONNA RUN.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF OUR ART CENTER COMPARED TO SOME OTHERS OR WHAT IT IS, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE SORT OF THE NORM AND IT MAKES SENSE THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANNA FALL BACK FROM THAT AND MAYBE EVEN IMPROVE IT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF NECESSARILY CHARGING THE RES CODES IS GOING TO DO IT.

UM, IF YOU DID A 5% CHARGING OF THE REST CODES OR SOMETHING, SO THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE SKIN IN THE GAME, THAT WOULD BE FINE.

WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA GET PAID.

IT'S GOING TO, IT'S GONNA COME OUT IN THE SERVICE ORG CONVERSATION MM-HMM .

YEAH, THERE, THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS THAT COULD HAVE, SO CHARGING THE RES CODES IS NOT GONNA NECESSARILY BRING IT UP A, A, A LARGE PERCENTAGE MM-HMM .

DURING BUDGET TIME.

SO, UM, AND MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A, A CALIBER TO HELP, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THEM LOCK ARMS WITH US AND CONTINUE TO TRY TO BE EFFICIENT.

BUT WE, IT'S ALL GONNA COME OUT OF THE, THE SAME POT ULTIMATELY.

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BUT THEN, LIKE I SPOKE ABOUT IN THE VERY BEGINNING, THAT TICKET FEE OF THE FACILITY FEE, THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL POTENTIALLY $40,000 A YEAR IF WE WERE TO PUT BACK THAT TICKET FEE TO ADD ONTO THAT.

AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER PIECE TO THAT WOULD BE IT, IT'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT PIECES THAT COULD MOVE THE MARK IS IF WE WERE TO CHARGE THE RES CODES, THEN THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE LESS RESERVATIONS, WHICH THEN OPENS THE BOOKING UP FOR THIRD PARTY RENTALS.

BUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE TO GO TOGETHER TO MOVE THE NEEDLE.

DON'T TRY TO RIGHT.

FIGURE OUT WHAT WE GOT.

AND JUST AS A LITTLE KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND, THE ART CENTER WAS SET UP TO SUPPORT OUR RES CODES IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING OF TOO.

UM, RIGHT.

WELL IT DOES SEEM LIKE WE'RE SORT OF AT THIS LEVEL THAT IF WE GET IMPROVEMENT IT'S GONNA BE SMALL INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENT OVER TIME.

UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA DO ANYTHING THAT'S REALLY GONNA MOVE THE NEEDLE BIG TIME.

SO THANK YOU KEVIN, DON, YOU'RE A VERY SMART MAN BECAUSE YOU HAD SOME VERY SIMILAR THOUGHTS THAT I HAD, UM, ON THAT .

UH, MY POINT, UH, MY POINT BEING THAT, UM, I, I DO STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT IF WE DO IMPOSE SOME SORT OF ADDITIONAL FEE TO THE, THE RES COASTS, THAT THAT IS JUST GONNA INCREASE THE ASK.

AND WE KNOW THAT THAT FUNDING COMES FROM OUR GENERAL FUND.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE BASICALLY LOOKING AT IS DRAINING MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN JUST FUNNELING IT OVER TO THE CRDC 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE PROFITS GO FROM THE ART CENTER.

SO REALLY IT'S JUST A MOVING OF MONEY.

AND LET'S BE HONEST, WITH SOME OF OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD OVER THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS PRESSURE, THERE'S MORE PRESSURE ON THE GENERAL FUND THAN THERE IS ON THESE FUNDS THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY SALES TAX.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS IN ANYONE'S BEST INTEREST TO SET THAT UP TO KIND OF FUNNEL THAT THERE'S ALREADY, UH, AN ODD NARRATIVE GOING ON AROUND IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT SOME OF THESE GENERAL FUNDS SUPPORTED, UM, FACILITIES ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE BEING PRESSURED BECAUSE OF THE ART CENTER.

AND IN MY OPINION, IF WE IMPOSED, UH, ADDITIONAL FEES THAT WOULD ACTUALLY CAUSE THAT TO HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE PUTTING ADDITIONAL PRESSURE ON THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH I DO NOT WANT TO DO.

'CAUSE WE'VE GOT, AS HAS BEEN SAID IN THE PAST, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS IN THE FUTURE ABOUT, SO THIS JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT CONFUSION.

THE, I MAY BE CONFUSED IN THE HEARING.

YOU, THE ARTS GROUPS ARE FUNDED OUT OF THE HOT TAX, NOT THE GENERAL FUND.

THAT'S TRUE.

I, I'M JUST TRYING TO, I I I'M NOT TRYING TO CONFUSE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I WAS HEARING NO.

LIKE YOU WERE SAYING I DID NOT KNOW THAT.

NO, NO, THAT CHECK.

YEAH, NO, NO, THAT'S INCREDIBLY FAIR THEN.

IT IS BECAUSE I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHEN Y'ALL LOOKED AT THAT SHEET, IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE WAS THIS, THE GENERAL FUND SERVICES AND THEN THERE WAS HOT TAX, THIS, THE ARTS GROUPS WERE THE HOT TAX AND EVERY ONE OF 'EM COMES OUT OF THAT UHHUH .

ALRIGHT.

WELL THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY THERE TOO.

SO YOU'RE MOVING HOT TAX OVER TO THE, I GUESS I AM MOVING THE HOT TAX OVER, SO, BUT UH, I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT STILL, I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON OUR HOT TAX FORM.

SO THE ARTS, IT'S LIMITED THE 15%.

YEAH, NO.

ALL BEING FUNDED BY PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN.

AND, AND THAT'S CLEAR.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND THAT IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT.

TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO, BUT JUST ANYTHING, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING, MOVING UNNECESSARY MONEY OVER TO THE CRDC WHEN THE CRDC IS.

WE ARE SHOWING THAT IT'S GOT PLENTY OF REVENUE.

UH, I SAY PLENTY.

IT COULD ALWAYS BE MORE, I WANT TO CHOOSE MY WORDS CAREFULLY ON THAT IN TERMS OF, BUT IT, IT HAS THE REVENUE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE ART CENTER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT MOVING OF MONEY, EVEN IF IT COMES OUTTA HOT TAX TO SUPPORT THEM, IT'S JUST AN UNNECESSARY DRAIN ON THEN THAT HOT TAX FUNDS.

SO JIM, I GUESS I WANTED TO ANSWER ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.

UM, .

SO I THINK THE ANSWER FOR, YOU KNOW, WHY WE DON'T CHARGE FOR LIBRARY CARD OR YOU KNOW, OR MEMBERSHIP FOR THE BIODIVERSITY CENTER, WHY THE SENIOR MEMBERSHIP'S SO LOW, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT IT'S JUST A TOKEN CHARGES BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL TAX PAYERS AND THEY'RE ALL PAYING PROPERTY TAX INTO OUR SYSTEM.

AND THEN WE'RE PROVIDING THESE AMENITIES, WHICH IS ONE REASON I PRESUME WHY THEY WANT TO LIVE HERE TO PAY THE PROPERTY TAXES.

SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT CHARGING THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR IT.

AND ALL OF THOSE, WHETHER YOU USE A LIBRARY OR USE ALL THE FACILITIES OR NOT, STILL CONTRIBUTES TO YOUR PROPERTY VALUE AND CONTRIBUTES TO YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE LIVING IN THIS COMMUNITY.

UM, WHEREAS HERE WITH THE ART CENTER, UM, YOU KNOW, HARDLY, I MEAN 36% OF IT, ROUGHLY 35% OF IT ON THE SALES TECH SIDE IS BEING FUNDED BY RESIDENTS.

THE REST IS

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AND TO ME THE MOST IMPORTANT WORD IN THE TITLE OF RES COASTS IS THE RESIDENT ARTS COMPANIES.

THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE TOO, THAT ARE ALSO PAYING PROPERTY TAXES.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THEM OFFSETTING THE COST OF THE ART CENTER, WE'RE WE'RE ASKING THEM TO OFFSET THE COST THAT 66 CENTS OF EVERY DOLLAR BEING PAID BY SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T LIVE HERE IS PAYING.

SO IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

IT'S AN APPLES AND ORANGES COMPARISON.

AND UH, I THINK THE RESIDENT ARTS COMPANIES WERE A BIG MOTIVATING FACTOR WITH PETE WILSON WANTING TO GET OUT OF THE RED FIREHOUSE AND GET INTO A REAL LIFE PLAYHOUSE.

UH, AND, AND THERE'S BEEN A SERIOUS BALANCING, YOU KNOW, IN LIKE WHEN THE THEATER CAN SET UP, YOU KNOW, IN RELATION TO WHEN WE CAN USE THAT, THE BLACK BLOCKS AS A RENTAL AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH A LOT OF GROWING PAINS AND A LOT OF BALANCING OF INTERESTS TO KIND OF MAXIMIZE WHAT WE'RE BRINGING IN ON THE ART CENTER.

UM, BUT TO ME THIS IS PART OF WHAT REALLY CONTRIBUTES A GREAT DEAL OF VALUE TO LIVING AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE AMENITIES, THE QUALITY OF LIFE, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OUR MEDIANS AND THE QUALITY OF OUR ROADS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO, UM, I JUST, TO ME THIS IS FOCUSING ON SOMETHING FUNDED BY PEOPLE THAT LARGELY DON'T EVEN LIVE HERE AND TRYING TO CREATE FINANCIAL EXPECTATIONS THAT DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME WHEN ALL OF THESE AMENITIES ARE BEING FUNDED EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE BY PROPERTY TAX, BY PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR THEM AND HAVE A CERTAIN, I THINK, DESIRE TO BE HERE FOR THAT REASON.

UM, AND SO I, I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS FOR ANY FACILITY.

UM, AND, AND, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD.

I I THINK ALL OF THIS IS WRAPPED UP IN THE DEBATE, THE LARGER DEBATE ON THE BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE AND PRIORITIES THAT WE ASSIGNED STAFF AT OUR RETREAT WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE WANT TO SEE DEVELOPED IN TOWN.

AND ALL THOSE ARE IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS.

BUT THIS TO ME IS IT JUST, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

, I GOT YOU NEXT.

THEY MADE RECOMMENDATION, CORRECT.

UM, WE, OUR CITY MANAGER WARN US IN 2028 TO 2029 BUDGET WILL BE CHALLENGING.

THAT'S TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS FROM TODAY.

AND ONE OF THE REASON HE SAID THE WAY WE ARE SPENDING THE MONEY, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO RECOVER IT THROUGH SALES TAX.

YES, WE ARE GOING THROUGH A LAWSUIT WITH THE STATE, SO WE MAY NOT RECEIVE THE SALES TAX MONEY THAT WE ARE GETTING TODAY.

SO THAT IS THE, IN A PREMISE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE WE HAVE ISSUES COMING UP.

HOW DO WE GO INTO BALANCE THE BUDGET IN THREE YEARS WHEN WE FACE CHALLENGES IF WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE SALES TAX MONEY THAT WE ARE RECEIVING TODAY? THAT'S NUMBER ONE POINT.

NUMBER TWO POINT IS WE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT OUR SALES, I MEAN RECOVERY, UM, IN ART CENTER.

AND THE STAFF AND AT THE COUNCIL RETREAT WE SAID, YES, LET'S FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION.

AND THAT IS WHAT THE STAFF WAS FOLLOWING.

AT LEAST THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE RECOVERY COST WE CAN INCREASE BY PROVIDING MORE RENTAL TO THIRD PARTIES OR CHARGING SOME FEE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMPANIES.

IS THAT RIGHT? ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE DEVOS STUDY? YES.

SO THE DEVOS DID SUGGEST A CERTAIN COST RECOVERY PERCENTAGE, BUT I REMEMBER AT THAT TIME THE COUNCIL SAYING THAT THAT WAS TOO HIGH FOR US TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.

WHAT PERCENTAGE WAS THAT? IT WAS 45%.

AND THEN THEY HAD EVEN SUGGESTED RENTAL FEES AND EVEN THAT THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME SAID WAS TOO HIGH.

SO, SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WERE SUGGESTING, RIGHT, WE NEED TO INCREASE THE RENTAL, ALSO CHARGE SOME FEE TO RESIDENTS.

AND, BUT THEY DID THAT, NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFIC TO KAEL, BUT SPECIFIC TO INDUSTRY STANDARDS.

SO THEY DO NATIONWIDE, UH, LOCAL ART COMPANY OR, UM, PERFORMING ARTS CENTERS.

AND SO THAT WAS THEIR NATIONWIDE STUDY.

AND OBVIOUSLY AS WE KNOW IN KABEL WE DO THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

AND SO THAT'S WHY AT THE TIME COUNCIL HAD SAID, LET'S NOT NECESSARILY FOLLOW THAT COST RECOVERY, THAT THE DEVOS STUDY.

AND SO WE KIND OF PUT THAT ON THE SHELF AS A REFERENCE AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS, THE CONVERSATION AGAIN 'CAUSE IT CAME UP LAST TIME.

THAT THIS IS SALES TAX MONEY AND HARD MONEY.

RAMESH, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, I, I'M REALIZING THAT I'M, I'M GOING TO BE THE MINORITY, UH, IN THIS DECISION.

I, I WILL RESPECT WHAT THE MAJORITY, UH, DECISION IS GOING TO BE.

UH, HOWEVER, I'M GOING TO STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THE STATEMENT

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WE HAVE ENOUGH IN CRDC, SO WE, WE CAN, WE CAN USE ALL OF IT TO, TO SPEND ON, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE, AS, AS WE CURRENTLY SPENDING WITHOUT THE ART CENTER.

UH, IF YOU GIVE ME THAT, UH, MONEY IN CRDC AND IF THERE ARE ENOUGH PART PROJECTS TO BE REDONE, WE COULD HIRE THE PEOPLE, UH, NEEDED TO DO, TO GET EVERYTHING DONE.

SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN USE THE MONEY TO, TO SPEND IT DIFFERENTLY.

THE CHOICE IS ALWAYS THERE.

WE ARE CHOOSING TO SPEND, UH, IT IN THIS CURRENT WAY.

AND AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE 3 MILLION, UH, BUDGET FOR ART CENTER.

I VALUE THE RESIDENTIAL COMPANIES.

I, I THINK, UH, THEY'RE IMPORTANT AND WE SHOULD SUPPORT THEM.

WHERE I'M DISAGREEING IS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SKIN IN THE GAME FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMPANIES.

THERE SHOULD BE A CANCELLATION FEE.

THERE SHOULD BE, UM, SOME COST RECOVERY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL COMPANIES BECAUSE IF SOMETHING IS GIVEN FREE THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT HAS A DIFFERENT VALUE AS OPPOSED TO IF YOU HAVE TO WORK FOR IT.

UM, AND UH, IF, IF WE CAN INCREASE OUR COST RECOVERY FROM A CURRENT 32 TO, TO MAYBE EVEN EVEN A 40, UM, LIKE YOU SAID, UH, THERE, THERE WOULD BE MORE BANDWIDTH FOR THE MANAGEMENT TO, TO GIVE IT OUT FOR RENTALS.

SO THAT MEANS WE, WE'LL HAVE MORE RENTAL REVENUE COMING IN AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.

UH, I THINK THERE, I THINK AS STEWARDS OF UH, THE CITY FINANCES, WE SHOULD BE INVESTING OUR MONEY IN WHAT IS THE BEST RETURN IN VALUE FOR THE CITY, IN MY OPINION.

UM, UH, INCREASING THE COST RECOVERY TARGET IS A GOOD FISCAL IZATION.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL KEEP MY PIECE.

THANK YOU DON.

I GUESS I WAS JUST GONNA RE REITERATE SORT OF IN RESPONSE TO THAT.

IF WE SHUT A BUNCH OF PARKS, WE'LL HAVE EXTRA MONEY TOO TO GO DO STUFF WITH.

AND, AND SO I, I MEAN WE'RE NOT DOING COST RECOVERY ON THE PARKS.

UM, SO IT DOESN'T COMPLETELY MAKE SENSE.

I MEAN IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT WE WOULD, THAT WE UM, ONLY DO IT I GUESS ON THE ART CENTER.

UH, SOMEBODY EXPLAINED IT TO ME THIS WAY THAT'S MADE A LOT OF SENSE 'CAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF LIFE OF QUALITY OF LIFE AMENITIES IN, IN THIS CITY OR A BUNCH OF CITIES.

AND ULTIMATELY WHAT MIKE AND CLAY AND JIM AND WHOMEVER FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS HAVE TRIED TO DO IS COME UP WITH WHAT DO ALL THE PARK, ALL THE OUTDOOR PEOPLE DO THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO GO DO? AND WHAT DO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO LOVE TO READ, WHAT DO THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO GO DO? AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO LOVE BUTTERFLIES DO THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO GO DO AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WANNA WORK OUT, THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO AND DO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO LOVE THE FINE ARTS HAVE SOMETHING GOOD TO DO? SO IT'S AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE SORT OF FILL OUT WHAT DO ALL THE PEOPLE IN COPPEL ENJOY DOING AND DO WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT CAN SORT OF ADDRESS THAT? AND I GUESS THAT HELPS BRING IT INTO VIEW A LITTLE BIT THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO PIT A DEFICIT IN ONE DEPARTMENT AGAINST A DEFICIT IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT WHEN WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO ADEQUATELY PROVIDE QUALITY OF LIFE AMENITIES FOR EVERYONE WHO LIVES HERE.

SO I, I GUESS THAT'S JUST TO SORT OF REITERATE WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER, THE ABOUT THE, THE COST RECOVERY.

'CAUSE THE PARKS I THINK ARE A GOOD EXAMPLE.

WE HAD FABULOUS PARKS AND IT COST A LOT OF MONEY TO HAVE FABULOUS PARKS.

UH, AND I THINK THAT GETS OVERLOOKED SOMETIMES.

SOMETIMES WE THINK THE PARKS JUST SORT OF APPEAR AND THEY LOOK BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE THE JUST NATURALLY, UH, AND MAYBE 'CAUSE IT'S NOT A MANMADE THING, BUT IT TAKES A LOT OF MAINTENANCE.

SO IT TAKES A LOT OF MONEY TO KEEP THAT THING GOING.

SO, SO I I I RESTAURANT CASE, KEVIN, I LOVE GOING AFTER YOU, BY THE WAY, DID I STEAL YOUR THUNDER? NO, UM, I WAS JUST, THERE WAS A COMMENT, RAMESH, THAT YOU SAID ABOUT YOU WANT THE RESIDENT ARC COMPANIES TO HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME.

MY POINT WAS GONNA BE, WELL WHAT SKIN IN THE GAME DOES, UH, A FAMILY GOING OUT AND SPENDING AN AFTERNOON IN THE PARK AT AND, AND TO, AND IT, IT, IT JUST IS RE TO REITERATE, CAN I RESPOND TO THAT? SURE.

I MEAN, IF, IF WE ARE GOING TO USE THAT ARGUMENT, THEN WHY ARE WE CHARGING, UH, A, A FEE FOR THE COURT? WHY IS IT NOT FREE FOR ALL THE CORPORAL RESIDENTS? NO, I MEAN, BUT I THINK TO BRIANNA'S POINT, THERE'S A DISCUSSION ABOUT ALL OF THE FACILITIES AND ALL AND, AND EVERYTHING.

I MEAN, WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IN SOME OF OUR BUDGET MEETINGS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WELL ARE WE IN LINE WITH WHERE THE CORE IS? AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN SOME CORRESPONDENCE THAT THE CORE IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN A LOT OF THE INDUSTRY STANDARDS.

SO MAYBE THERE, THERE NEW DO NEED TO BE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OUR OVERALL

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FEE STRUCTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT I MEAN, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, I MEAN IT IS AN INVESTMENT IN OUR OVERALL STRUCTURE, RIGHT? AND I, I REALLY DO FEEL LIKE WE'RE STARTING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE PICKING THESE WINNERS AND LOSERS VERSUS LOOKING AT EVERYTHING HOLISTICALLY AS A, A PARK SYSTEM, AS A RECREATION SYSTEM.

SO I WOULD MUCH RATHER LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT, BUT THERE IS NO COST RECOVERY FOR SOMEONE TO GO OUT AND ENJOY EVENING, YOU KNOW, AT THE PARK.

SO JUST KIND OF REITERATE THAT.

BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I, I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT I'M, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT IT.

WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE AN ART CENTER IN COPPEL WITH THE SIZE OF 43,000 PEOPLE.

NOT MANY CITIES WITH THE 43,000 POPULATION HAVE AN ART CENTER.

IT'S, IT'S A GREAT THING THAT WE HAVE A QUALITY OF LIFE THAT PEOPLE CAN ENJOY COMPARING THAT TO AN ART CENTER, I MEAN TO A CORE WHERE WE ARE COLLECTING MEMBERSHIP FEE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT FAIR, THE PEOPLE ARE PAYING MEMBERSHIP FEE TO HAVE HEALTH AND WELLNESS, UM, WORKING OUT, HAVING PROGRAMS, THEY PAY FOR THE FEE.

AND ALSO YOUTHS ARE PLAYING BASKETBALL, PEOPLE ARE PLAYING BADMINTON.

UH, ALL TYPE OF SPORTS ARE PLAYED IN COURT AND THAT THEY ALL HAVE TO PAY EITHER A GUEST FEE OR A MEMBERSHIP FEE TO ENTER THE BUILDING.

SO MY POINT IS, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A LIBRARY IN TOWN.

WE NEED TO HAVE A REC CENTER, BUT ART CENTER IS SOMETHING WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE.

AND ADDITION, NOT MANY OF THE CITIES THAT I KNOW WITH 43,000 POPULATION HAVE AN ART CENTER.

SO WHAT IS THE BEST WAY? YES, I AGREE THEY ARE PAYING PROPERTY TAX, BUT ONE OF THE THING RAMESH JUST MENTIONED IS THEY CAN CANCEL AT ANY TIME.

THERE IS NO PROBLEM.

WE COULD HAVE USED THAT TIME TO RENT IT OUT AND COLLECT SOME MONEY FROM THE THIRD PARTY RENTALS PEOPLE OR COLLECT SOME REVENUE IF THEY CANCEL.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, SKIN IN THE GAMES, SOME PEOPLE USE THE PHRASE HERE, THERE IS NO MEMBERSHIP FEE TO ART CENTER.

THEY PAY A FEE TO SEE A SHOW.

I MEAN THEY PURCHASE A TICKET.

UM, THAT'S HOW WE RECOVER THE COST.

AND THROUGH THIRD PARTIES, YES, IT IS FUNDED BY SALES TAX, 30 60% EUROPE FOR, IT SAYS 67 OR WHATEVER COMES FROM SALES TAX, UH, PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE.

MY THINKING IS ALWAYS, IF WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THE C-D-C-R-D-C FUNDING, WHICH IS 8.2 MILLION, WE ARE INCREASING THAT TO 8.5 THIS YEAR.

CAN WE DO ALL THE PROJECTS THE PARK BOARD IS RECOMMENDING? ARE WE PUTTING ANYTHING ON A SIDE THAT I KNOW WE ARE MOVING MONEY FROM THE EXCESSIVE BUCKET TO CRDC TO SPEND ON SOME OF THE PARK PROJECT? I SEEN THAT HERE UM, IT'S IN THAT, IT'S IN THAT BUDGET, UM, LAYOUT.

SURE.

SO MY, MY POINT IS, YES, WE NEED TO HAVE, UM, A WAY TO RECOVER MAYBE MORE THAN 32%.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, UH, BUT THAT'S MY OPINION ON THIS.

ALRIGHT, WE'VE GOT THREE MINUTES UNTIL SEVEN 30.

DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THIS AFTER OUR REGULAR SESSION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL OR ARE WE READY TO, TO MOVE ON? 'CAUSE I'M, I'M HEARING, UM, FIVE TO AT LEAST FIVE SAYING CONTINUE ON, SHERRY.

UM, AS WE ARE NOW, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION AT THE WINTER RETREAT IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

AND TO BRIANNA'S CASE, MAYBE IT'S BETTER TO EXPAND IT OUT.

UH, UH, JUST A PHILOSOPHICAL DISCUSSION FOR THE CITY, UM, SHORTLY.

AND FULLY SUPPORTING THE RESIDENT COMPANIES IN TRYING TO CREATE REVENUE WHERE WE CAN, BUT NOT FORCEFULLY TRYING TO CREATE REVENUE OR DO YOU WANT US TO FORCEFULLY TRY TO CREATE REVENUE? THOSE ARE THE, THE ANSWER THAT I NEED.

I, I THINK, UH, THE WRITING IS CLEAR ON THE WALL.

UH, THEY ASKED US FOR A GUIDANCE.

I THINK THE GUIDANCE IS THE CONTINUE AS THE, UH, CONTINUE STATUS QUO AND THEN, THEN WE DISCUSS THIS IN, UH, RETREAT OR NOT.

WE CAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU DON.

THE ONLY THING I WAS GONNA ASK IS, IS, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE, YOU ARE NEEDING FROM US OR THERE'S NOT REALLY ANYTHING YOU NEED FROM US? WE GOT A NEW BUDGET ABOUT TO GO INTO PLACE.

I, THE SPECIFIC THING I NEED IS IF WE ARE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR CURRENT OPERATIONS

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AND WAS, WERE THESE YOUR ONLY QUESTIONS OR DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I THINK THERE WERE THREE MORE WEREN'T THERE? NO, I JUST REPEATED THEM.

OH, OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAD HAD A CHANCE TO YEP, THIS IS IT.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE DIRECTION.

DO YOU HAVE DIRECTION? SO WHAT I'M HEARING CONSENSUS WISE, WE ARE CONTINUING FORWARD WITH OPERATIONS, SUPPORTING THE RESIDENT COMPANIES AND CREATING REVENUE WHERE WE CAN.

AND THEN YOU GUYS WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION AT A LATER TIME IF YOU FEEL THE NEED TO LOOK AT COST RECOVERY.

CAN I HAVE A THUMBS UP PLEASE? OKAY.

THE TIME IS 7:34 PM WE'RE HERE.

PERFECT.

THAT'S WHAT I, THANK YOU.

WE ARE RECESSED FROM WORK SESSION AT 7 29.

WE'LL BE BACK IN HERE TO CONTINUE ITEM C AFTER THE REGULAR SESSION.

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

[4. Invocation 7:30 p.m.]

UH, WE HAVE CONCLUDED WORK SESSION.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE IN AND WE ARE HERE FOR THE REGULAR SESSION OF THE COPPEL CITY COUNCIL.

JUST AS A REMINDER, PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK DURING THE CITIZEN'S APPEARANCE OR PUBLIC HEARINGS MUST SIGN THE APPROPRIATE REGISTER LOCATED OUTSIDE THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND LIST YOUR ADDRESS.

WE DO HAVE, UH, A COUPLE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, AS WELL AS OUR CITIZEN'S APPEARANCE.

SO BE COGNIZANT THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT SIGNUP SHEETS.

UH, JUST, UH, UH, SO, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK LAUREN.

UH, THIS EVENING WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE REVEREND DANIEL BOAN KIM OF FORMERLY OF THE FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH OF COPPEL, HERE TO GIVE THE INVOCATION, AND THEN WE WILL RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

SO PLEASE REMAIN STANDING.

AND I'D LIKE TO ASK, UH, REVEREND KIM BEFORE SHE BEGINS TO KIND OF EXPLAIN HER NEW, UH, ROLE IN, IN LIFE WITH THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.

SIX IS OUR CITIZEN'S APPEARANCE AND PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK MUST SIGN THE REGISTER, ENLIST THEIR ADDRESS.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

UM, GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL.

MY NEW ROLE IS TO COME ALONGSIDE, UM, CITIZENS AND, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN, UM, IN CARROLLTON, THE FARMER'S BRANCH AREA.

UM, AS COMMUNITY CLERGY, I HAVE BEEN APPOINTED AS COMMUNITY CLERGY, UH, OPPONENT, COMPLETING, COMPLETING MY, UH, MY, UM, SERVICE AT FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH CAPEL THIS PAST JULY.

AND IT IS SUCH AN HONOR TO CROSS THE BORDERS THAT WE SHARE TO BE WITH YOU ALL THIS EVENING AND OFFER, UH, TONIGHT'S INVOCATION.

SO, UM, I AM SO GRATEFUL THAT I GOT TO FULFILL MY PROMISE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

SO, UH, BEFORE THE, UH, MY APPOINTMENT CHANGED.

SO LET US GO TO GOD IN PRAYER.

TOGETHER, GRACIOUS AND ETERNAL CREATOR, WE GATHER THIS EVENING IN A SPIRIT OF DEEP GRATITUDE FOR THE VIBRANT COMMUNITY OF CAPEL AND FOR THE ENDURING BONDS THAT CONNECT ALL OF US ACROSS THIS REGION.

WE ASK FOR YOUR BLESSING AND GUIDANCE UPON THE CITY COUNCIL MARY MAYES AND EVERY PUBLIC SERVANT WHO HAS DEDICATED THEIR TIME AND TALENTS TO THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY.

GRANT THESE LEADERS WISDOM, CLARITY, AND COMPASSION AS THEY DELIBERATE ON THE MATTERS BEFORE THEM TONIGHT, MAY THE ACTIONS TAKEN HERE TONIGHT STRENGTHEN THE FOUNDATION OF CAPEL AND SERVE AS A BEACON OF GOOD GOVERNANCE FOR ALL OF US.

IN YOUR HOLY NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE ALLEGIANCE, MY PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE BY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE FOR LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ITEM NUMBER

[6. Citizens’ Appearance]

UH, PRESENTATIONS BY INDIVIDUALS SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES EACH DURING WHICH TIME THE SPEAKERS WILL REMAIN AT THE PODIUM AND FACE FORWARD AND ADDRESS.

ONLY THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT THEY SIGNED UP.

IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN AN ORDERLY AND RESPECTFUL MEETING ENVIRONMENT AND TO CONDUCT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS OF THE CITY SPEAKERS WILL ADHERE TO THE STANDARDS OUTLINED IN ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 1633.

THERE WILL BE NO COMMENTS OR DELIBERATIONS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL DUE TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS RECORD ACT.

WE DO HAVE, UM, THREE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND THE FIRST ONE IS BARB SCHMIDT.

GOOD

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EVENING, BARB SCHMIDT, 6 2 2 PHEASANT LANE.

MY COMMENTS WILL BE BRIEF AND TO THE POINT.

AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

I'VE BEEN AN AVID PICKLEBALL PLAYER AT WAGON WHEEL FOR NEARLY FOUR YEARS NOW IN THE ATTENDANCE AT OPEN PLAY AND PARTICIPATION IN THE INTERMURAL LEAGUES, UM, HAS A DEED EXPLODED.

LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE EACH AND EVERY WEEK ARE PLAYING PICKLEBALL THERE.

WHETHER IT'S RENTING COURTS, PLAYING IN LEAGUES OR AT OPEN PLAY, WE HAVE AT LEAST SIX OPEN PLAY TIMES A WEEK.

NOT ONLY ARE WE MAKING NEW BEST FRIENDS, BUT THE SOCIALIZATION AND COMMUNITY INTERACTION IS CONTAGIOUS AND FUN.

WE ARE ALWAYS GREAT, UH, GETTING NEW PLAYERS AND THE ATMOSPHERE IS ELECTRIC AND EVERYONE IS WELCOME.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THE ENTIRE WAGON WHEEL PICKLEBALL COMMUNITY APPRECIATES YOUR CONSIDERATION OF ITEM J ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

WITH YOUR AFFIRMATIVE VOTE, YOU'LL BE APPROVING THE REPAIR OF THE EIGHT DEDICATED PICKLEBALL COURTS USING CRDC MONEY.

THIS YES VOTE WILL ALLOW THE COURTS TO BE PREPARED AND FIXED SUCH THAT THEY ARE SAFELY PLAYABLE.

THE CRDC HAS AGREED TO ALLOW THESE FUNDS TO REPAIR THESE COURTS AND YOUR VOTE WILL ALLOW THIS PROCESS TO GO FORWARD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR VOTE YES, VOTE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

UH, SECOND PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS MAYOR KEN SHIN.

OH, YOU'RE ALWAYS MAYOR.

YOU'RE ALWAYS MAYOR.

SORRY MAYOR, WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE DISCUSSION.

UH, THE WORD IS THAT ONCE MAYOR, YOU'RE ALWAYS MAYOR.

SO WELCOME.

YOU KNOW, I JUST RECENTLY HEARD THAT .

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS CANDY SHEEN, 3, 2, 1 QUIET VALLEY.

I AM ALSO HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM J UH, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.

UM, JUST NOTE BARB'S COMMENTS WILL BE MINE AS WELL.

UH, WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE COMING, SO MANY NEW PLAYERS COMING AND IT IS EXCITING PLACE TO BE AND IT'S REALLY BEEN INTERESTING FOR ME TO SEE AN ATHLETIC COMPLEX THAT'S REALLY FOR ADULTS AND WE ARE FUNDING ADULT ACTIVITIES AND IT'S REALLY BEEN NICE TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE COME OUT.

AND THIS LEADS ME TO MY NEXT, UM, TOPIC IS THE FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT YOU WILL BE SEEING IN SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER 22ND, THE PARK BOARD.

AND JOE IS JOE HERE.

HE'S BEEN AWESOME.

HE HAS BEEN MEETING WITH US.

THANK YOU, JOE.

HE HAS BEEN A GREAT LIAISON WITH Y'ALL AND THE PICKLEBALL COMMUNITY CAN'T SAY ENOUGH FOR HIM ABOUT HIM, BUT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS COMING UP.

I JUST WANT YOU TO NOTE THE INCREASE IN PARTICIPATION AND WE'RE REALLY DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR NEW CONCRETE PADS FOR PICKLEBALL COURTS, BUT MAYBE CONVERTING SOME TENNIS COURTS INTO PICKLEBALL COURTS AND MAKE THOSE DESIGNATED.

UM, OUR PLAYERS ARE JUST EXPLODING ALL THE TIME.

THE ACTIVITIES THAT JOE LEADS FOR GETTING NEW PLAYERS INTERESTED IN THE SPORT IS REALLY GOOD TOO.

SO ANYWAY, HOPE YOU'RE SUPPORTING ITEM J ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.

WE WILL STAY HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

AND ALSO, UH, PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

OUR LAST SPEAKER IS WALLY GRINS.

UH, I'M WALLY GRUAS AND I'VE LIVED IN CAPELLE FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS AT SEVEN 13 CASTLE CREEK DRIVE.

UH, I WANNA SHARE MY PERSPECTIVE ON THE, UH, CAPELLE ART CENTER VIS-A-VIS, UH, THE IDEA THAT'S BEEN FLOATING AROUND OUT THERE, THAT THE CENTER SHOULD GENERATE MORE REVENUE TO COVER MOST, IF NOT ALL OF ITS COSTS.

UH, IF THAT'S TRUE, THEN I'D SUGGEST THAT THE ART CENTER MAY BE BEING HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD THAN THE CORE THAT I, WHO I LOVE, THE, THE BIODIVERSITY CENTER, THE LIBRARY, ALL OF WHICH ARE GREAT.

UM, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, HIGHER STANDARD THAN SOME OF THE OTHER AMENITIES THAT WE ENJOY HERE IN CAPEL.

LOOK, I'VE SPENT 40 YEARS IN THE BUSINESS WORLD WORKING WITH LARGE PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES, PRIVATE COMPANIES, SO I UNDERSTAND THERE'S NO FREE LUNCH, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO KEEP COSTS IN LINE AND WE DO WANT MORE REVENUES.

UH, BUT I'VE ALSO SERVED ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF SEVERAL, SEVERAL CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS DURING MY CAREER, UNITED WAY, THE DALLAS YMC, A SENIOR SOURCE, THE DA DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

YOU GET THE POINT.

AND I CAN TELL YOU NFPS ARE STRANGE, STRANGE ANIMALS.

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THEY'RE DIFFERENT.

THEY'RE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF AN NFP, WHICH I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE COPPEL ART CENTER IS, IS TO SERVE ITS CONSTITUENTS, NOT NECESSARILY TO MAKE A PROFIT, WHICH IS NOT UNLIKE NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.

SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO TAKE THESE COMMS INTO CONSIDERATION AS THEY ASSESS THE FUTURE OF THE ART CENTER.

ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS TONIGHT.

ALRIGHT, FOLLOWING

[7. Consent Agenda]

UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ROUTINE IN NATURE AND IS GENERALLY ENACTED IN A SINGLE MOTION.

THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THROUGH THE BUDGET OR PAST COUNSEL ACTIONS.

ANY ITEM MAY BE PULLED AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY, AND FULL DESCRIPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE SCREEN.

WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION DURING WORK SESSION ON SEVERAL OF THE ITEMS. SO COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE PULLED OR HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS ON? MAYOR PROTI, I WAS JUST GONNA MOVE, UH, LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FIRST.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, BACK TO YOU, MAYOR PROTE.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR MAYS.

UH, AT THIS TIME I WOULD, UH, MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS STATED ITEMS A THROUGH L.

THANK YOU AND HAS, HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER NEVILLES.

ALL IN FAVOR, WALKER HINOJOSA SMITH.

CAROL NEVILLES, PRIM KUMAR, MATTHEW HILL, NON-OP.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT

[8. 2026-0340 CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING: Hold a Continued Public Hearing and consider approval of Planned Development- 214 Revision 11- Commercial (PD-214R11-C), a zoning change request from PD-214R2- C (Planned Development-214 Revision 2- Commercial) to PD-214R11-C (Planned Development-214 Revision 11- Commercial) to allow for the Detail Planned Development of a 14,480 square foot commercial center, for retail and medical uses on approximately 2.03 acres located at the south side of Sandy Lake Road, approximately 560-ft west of Denton Tap Road.]

IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.

I MUST RECUSE MYSELF.

I AM A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE, UH, UH, HOA THAT IS ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY.

UH, SO I WILL TURN THE MEETING OVER TO THE MAYOR PROM.

JIM WALKER.

I'LL READ IT IF YOU WANT ME TO.

I CAN READ IT.

DO YOU NORMALLY READ IT? OKAY, THEN YOU READ IT.

UH, THIS IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING, BUT JUST TO REFRAME THE ISSUE, I'LL HAVE, UH, MARY PERONE BOSWELL, GO AHEAD AND READ THE ITEM, UH, NOW BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

SO ITEM ON NUMBER EIGHT IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING TO HOLD A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT TWO 14 REVISION 11 COMMERCIAL, A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM PD TWO 14 R TWO TO PD TWO 14 R 11 TO ALLOW FOR THE DETAILED PLAN DEVELOPMENT OF A 14,480 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL CENTER FOR RETAIL AND MEDICAL USES ON APPROXIMATELY 2.03 ACRES.

LOCATED AT THE SOUTH SIDE OF SANDY LAKE ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 560 FEET WEST OF DENTON TAP ROAD.

THE CURRENT PROPOSAL ALSO SHOWS TWO DRIVEWAYS ALONG SANDY LAKE, ONE SHARED WITH THE VERIZON LOT ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY.

MARY.

PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK, UH, DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MUST SIGN THE REGISTER AND LIST THEIR ADDRESS.

YOU'LL BE CALLED TO SPEAK IN THE ORDER YOU HAVE REGISTERED PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.

SO AT THIS TIME, UH, WE'RE CONTINUING THE PUBLIC HEARING SO IT IS OPEN.

UM, AND WE'LL NOW HAVE THE PRESENTATION BY STAFF.

THERE WE GO.

MARY, IF YOU PLEASE.

UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL.

SO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS THE SHOPS AT SANDY LAKE.

SO WHAT WE HAVE, UH, IN FRONT OF YOU HERE IS, OH, LET'S SEE HERE, HERE WE GO.

SO THIS PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED AS PART OF A LARGER 29 ACRE DEVELOPMENT THAT INCLUDED THE DEVELOPMENT OF ARBOR MANNERS AND ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ALONG BOTH DENTON TAP AND SANDY LAKE ROADS.

THE ZONING FOR THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED IN 2007 WITH SUBSEQUENT REZONINGS OCCURRING WITH EACH NEW DETAIL SITE PLAN FOR THE COMMERCIAL SITES.

THIS REPRESENTS THE FINAL COMMERCIAL PIECE TO BE DEVELOPED.

A PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS SITE, WHICH INCLUDED RETAIL MEDICAL RESTAURANT USES WITH A PATIO, WAS DENIED IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR.

THIS NEW PROPOSAL IS FOR RETAIL AND MEDICAL USES ONLY.

THERE'S NO RESTAURANT OR PATIO OR DRIVE-THROUGH PROPOSED.

SO WHAT WE HAVE UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW ON THE LEFT IS THE ORIGINAL PD AND ON THE RIGHT IS THE CURRENT PROPOSAL.

SO THE ORIGINAL PD SHOWS TWO BUILDINGS OUT FRONT ADJACENT TO SANDY LAKE ROAD VERSUS THE CURRENT PROPOSAL WITH ONE BUILDING AT THE REAR OF THE SITE.

THE ORIGINAL PD SHOWED PARKING AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY VERSUS THE CURRENT PROPOSAL HAS THE MAJORITY OF PARKING OUT FRONT WITH SOME AT THE SIDES.

THE ORIGINAL PD SHOWS TWO DRIVEWAY ENTRANCES, ONE OFF SANDY LAKE AT THE WESTERN EDGE AND A SHARED DRIVEWAY OUT TO ARBOR MANORS DRIVE.

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AND THE SECOND IS APPROXIMATELY 200 FEET WEST OF ARBOR MAN DRIVE JUST WEST OF THE TURN LANE WITH THE MEETING ON SANDY LAKE ROAD.

THE LAST PROPOSAL HAD THE, UH, THAT SECOND DRIVE ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET CLOSER TO THE EAST.

BUT WITH, UM, LOOKING AT WHAT THE RESIDENCE HAD REQUESTED, THIS DRIVEWAY WAS MOVED FURTHER WESTWARD AND THERE IS NO SHARED DRIVEWAY CONNECTION TO RESIDENTIAL VIA ARBOR MANORS DRIVE.

SO THE SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT.

THE SITE PLAN SHOWS A PROPOSED 14,480 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT WILL CONTAIN A MIX OF RETAIL AND MEDICAL USES ACCESSED BY TWO DRIVEWAYS ALONG SANDY LAKE ROAD.

AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THEIR PREVIOUS PROPOSAL HAD RESTAURANT AND PATIO USES AS A COMPROMISE WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

THE DEVELOPER HAS REMOVED THE RESTAURANT AND PATIO USES.

WITH THIS NEW PROPOSAL, A RESTAURANT USE WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS TO BE ALLOWED.

SO THE DEVELOPER'S PROPOSING A LARGER REAR SETBACK WHERE 20 FOOT IS THE NORM.

THEY ARE PROVIDING 30 FEET WHERE A 10 FOOT REAR LANDSCAPE BUFFER IS REQUIRED.

THEY ARE ACTUALLY PROPOSING 30 FEET.

AND THIS WAS ALL AS A COMPROMISE TO THE UH, RESIDENCE.

THERE ARE TWO TRASH RECEPTACLES PROPOSED ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE.

ORIGINALLY, THEY WERE PLACED AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY BASED ON RESIDENCE CONCERNS.

THEY'LL BE APPROXIMATELY 70 FEET FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE AND RESIDENCES.

THERE'S AN EXISTING SIX FOOT IN HEIGHT BRICK SCREENING WALL BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, WHICH DOES MEET CITY ORDINANCE, CITY ORDINANCES.

IN THE PRIOR PROPOSAL, THE WE, THE EASTERN DRIVEWAY WAS CLOSER TO ARBOR MANORS DRIVE.

IT HAS SINCE BEEN MOVED FURTHER WEST, APPROXIMATELY DOUBLE THE DISTANCE AND IS OUT OF THE TURN LANE ENTRANCE.

SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN, IN RED IS WHERE THE, THE, UM, DEVELOPER HAS MADE, UH, COMPROMISES FOR THE RESIDENTS.

UH, CONCERNS, UH, HERE WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THE LANDSCAPING BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS.

THE DEVELOPER INCREASED THE REAR LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND BUILDING SETBACK TO 30 FEET, WHERE ONLY 10 TO 20 FOOT IS REQUIRED.

IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THIS INCREASED LANDSCAPE SETBACK AT THE REAR AND MAINTAIN THE PARKING COUNT, THERE IS A PD CONDITION PROPOSED TO ALLOW THE FRONT YARD LANDSCAPE STRIP AS SHOWN, THIS RANGES FROM 9.1 TO 15.24 FEET AND AVERAGES APPROXIMATELY 12 AND A HALF FEET IN DEPTH WITH PARKING AT BUDDING IT VERSUS THE REQUIRED, UH, 15 FEET.

NOW THE PARKWAY ALONG SANDY LAKE ROAD IS APPROXIMATELY 24 FEET IN DEPTH.

SO THE LANDSCAPING OUT FRONT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 30 TO 43 FEET WHEN YOU INCLUDE THE PARKWAY.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAD NO OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST.

AGAIN, THERE IS AN ENHANCED LANDSCAPE BUFFER AT THE REAR WHERE THE, OF THE SITE WHERE NORMALLY ONLY 10 FEET IS REQUIRED.

THE DEVELOPERS PROPOSING MORE WITH THE BUILDING BEING 30 FEET FROM THE SOUTHERN PERIMETER.

ADDITIONAL TREES ALONG THE SOUTHERN PERIMETER ARE ALSO BEING PRESERVED.

THE EASTERN PERIMETER WILL SEE A LARGE NUMBER OF TREES BEING PRESERVED AS WELL.

IN TOTAL 55 EXISTING TREES WILL BE SAVED ON SITE AND ADDITIONAL 31 OVERSTORY TREES WILL BE PLANTED ON SITE.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE 71 NELLY R STEVENS TO BE PLANTED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SCREENING ALONG THE SOUTHERN PERIMETER.

THESE TYPICALLY GROW TO 15 TO 25 FEET IN HEIGHT AND MAKE AN IDEAL PRIVACY SCREEN.

IN ADDITION TO THE EXISTING MASONRY WALL HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, THE ELEVATIONS.

THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS JUST UNDER 19 FEET WITH A PARAPET WALL, UH, AT THE FRONT VARY IN HEIGHT FROM APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 25 FEET, CREATING SOME ARTICULATION.

THE TRASH ENCLOSURE MATERIAL WILL MATCH THE BUILDING AS WELL.

THEY WILL ALSO BE SCREENING THE HVAC OR HVAC EQUIPMENT.

THE BUILDING WILL BE A COMBINATION OF BRICK ALUMINUM STOREFRONT WITH A DARK METAL, DARK BRONZE METAL FASCIA AND TRIM.

THE LOWER PART OF THE BUILDING CONTAINS A LIGHT COLORED BRICK AND A

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DARKER COLORED BRICK ABOVE THE WATER TABLE.

THERE IS NO DRIVE THROUGH PROPOSED.

A MONUMENT SIGN IS PROPOSED ALONG SANDY LAKE ROAD.

THE SIGN WILL BE THE SAME DARKER BRICK AS THE BUILDING AND BE SIX FEET IN HEIGHT AND SIX FEET IN WIDTH WITH EXTERNAL ILLUMINATION.

THE MONUMENT SIGN, UH, PROPOSED ALONG SANDY LAKE ROAD IS APPROXIMATELY SIX FEET INSTEAD OF 10 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE IN ORDER TO NOT BE COVERED UP FROM THE PARKING SPACES.

AGAIN, THE PARKWAY ALONG SANDY LAKE ROAD IS AP APPROXIMATELY 24 FEET IN DEPTH.

SO THE SIGN WILL BE ABOUT 30 FEET FROM THE ROAD.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ALSO HAD NO OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST.

UH, THERE'S NO SIGNAGE PRESENTED FOR THE BUILDINGS ITSELF.

ANY PROPOSED SIGNAGE WILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH CITY REQUIREMENTS.

SO THIS IS, UH, ZONING CHANGE REQUEST AND WE DID SEND OUT NOTICES.

26 WERE SENT OUT WITHIN 200 FEET AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.

WE RECEIVED 15 IN OPPOSITION, ONE IN FAVOR.

UM, SO THEY HAVE REACHED THE 20% OF PROPERTY OWNERSHIP IN OPPOSITION, WHICH MEANS THAT THE VOTE BY CITY COUNCIL WILL NEED TO BE A SUPER MAJORITY WITH SIX SIX IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THE ITEM.

WE SENT ADDITIONAL, UH, COURTESY NOTICES WITHIN 800 FEET, UM, AND DID RECEIVE SOME OPPOSITION, UM, ONE IN OPPOSITION BEHIND BEYOND THE 800 FEET.

THE OPPOSITION, UH, NOTED WAS FOR TRAFFIC LOSS OF GREEN SPACE, QUALITY OF LIFE AND NOISE.

SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL SIX TO ZERO OF PD TWO 14 R 11, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING, UH, CONDITIONS.

ONE THAT A DETAIL ENGINEERING REVIEW WOULD, WILL OCCUR AT THE TIME OF FULL ENGINEERING SUBMITTAL.

TWO, TO ALLOW FOR LANDSCAPING AS SHOWN ON THE PLANS.

THREE, TO ALLOW FOR THE MONUMENT SIGN TO BE CONSTRUCTED AS SHOWN ON THE PLANS.

FOUR FOR THE DOWNSTREAM DRAINAGE ANALYSIS WILL NEED TO BE UPDATED TO ADDRESS STAFF, STAFF COMMENTS, WHICH, UH, THEY HAVE ADDRESSED OUR CONCERNS.

AND FIVE, THAT ALL OTHER SIGNAGE MEET CITY REQUIREMENTS.

SO THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND WE DO HAVE TWO OTHER PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING.

ONE BY THE DEVELOPER AND ONE BY THE UH, RESIDENTS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MARY.

UH, ARE THERE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, I WOULD INVITE THE, UH, DEVELOPER TO THE PODIUM TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR PRESENTATION THAT, UH, HE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE.

AND IF YOU COULD PLEASE, SIR, WHEN YOU ARRIVED, NAME AND ADDRESS.

TYLER, ALL 9 5 2 BASSETT PLACE, DALLAS, TEXAS.

UM, YEAH, THANKS FOR, UH, HEARING US AGAIN.

AND I KNOW YOU GOT, UH, MOST OF YOU GUYS WERE HERE LAST TIME WHEN WE PRESENTED.

UM, I THINK MARY COVERED A LOT OF THIS.

JUST, JUST AGAIN, SHOW YOU GUYS SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND JUST GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD HERE.

YOU KEEP GOING MARY.

UM, WE WILL, LET'S SKIP AHEAD TO THE, THE LIST.

UM, SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT SITE PLAN.

UM, JUST WANNA START NOTING THINGS THAT I THINK YOU, YOU CAN GO BACK ACTUALLY, UM, JUST TO NOTE SOME THINGS THAT, UH, I THINK ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE ORIGINAL PD THAT I THINK ARE IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, SO I THINK THE, THE LACK OF CONNECTION TO ARBOR MANNER DRIVE, I THINK IS, UH, SOMETHING THE RESIDENTS ARE DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF.

AND, UM, DEFINITELY AN IMPROVEMENT.

UM, THE GETTING THE ACCESS EASEMENT TO THE WEST WASN'T AVAILABLE WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED, AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT ACCESS SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE THE CONNECTION TO THE MEDIAN AND THAT WOULD MAKE I THINK, TRAFFIC FLOW A LOT BETTER AND HOPEFULLY KEEP TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT FROM THE WEST SIDE AND LESS SO OUT OF THE EAST SIDE.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, SO AS, AS MARY SHOWED, AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA REPEAT TOO MUCH OF WHAT MARY SAID, BUT, UM, THIS IS WHAT THE, UM, CURRENT LANDSCAPE PLAN IS, UM, WORKING WITH THE CITY AND, AND, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THE BUFFER FROM 20 FEET TO 30 FEET.

THAT ALLOWED US TO SAVE A LOT MORE TREES IN THE BACK.

UM, AND, UH, UM, AND, AND SO NOW WE HAVE A, I THINK WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF LANDSCAPING ON THIS PROPERTY, UM, WAY, WAY ABOVE CODE.

UM, KEEP GOING MARY.

UM, AND SO THE, UH, I THINK ONE THING JUST TO POINT OUT THAT IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY THERE'S ZERO, UH, TREES REQUIRED BACK THERE.

WE'RE PLANNING TO DO 71 TREES AND THERE WERE ALSO, UH, THERE'S ALSO TREE MITIGATION DONE WHEN THE PD WAS ORIGINALLY DONE.

AND SO I THINK BOTH OF THOSE ARE THINGS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRED FOR A SITE PLAN APPROVAL, BUT, UM, WE THOUGHT WAS, UH, WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE NEIGHBORS.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, AND SO WE ALSO HA HAVE SAVED 50 PLUS, I THINK IT'S LIKE 55

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NOW.

UM, WHEN WE CAME HERE, WHEN WE VOTED ON THIS LAST TIME, WE WERE AT 44.

BUT ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE THE BUILDING UP FURTHER, UM, WITH THE CITY'S HELP, UM, THAT CREATED A LOT MORE ROOM TO SAVE MORE TREES.

UM, AND SO THIS WAS, UH, UH, BACK IN APRIL WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND THEY GAVE US A LIST OF ITEMS. UM, I THINK BACK THEN THEY, BACK THEN THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THEY COULD, UH, THEY WERE TRYING TO COMPROMISE.

I THINK NOW THEIR OPINION IS MORE JUST TO SAY NO COMPLETELY TO IT.

SO I DON'T WANNA STATE THAT THESE ARE THEIR CURRENT OPINIONS OF WHAT THEY WOULD WANT.

UM, NEXT SLIDE I THINK IS WHEN THE LIST COMES UP.

THESE ARE THE NEIGHBOR REQUESTS.

THESE AREN'T THEIR CURRENT OPINIONS OF WHAT THEY WOULD WANT, BUT JUST TO MAKE IT EASIER TO SHOW WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

THESE, THIS IS KIND OF LIST WE WERE WORKING OFF OF.

UM, AND AS WE REDESIGNED THE PLAN.

SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE AND KIND OF EXPLAIN WHERE WE WERE THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHEN YOU GUYS VOTED, AND WHAT, AND WHAT CHANGES, IF ANY, WERE MADE.

AND THEN, SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE TODAY, UM, AS WE, AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS, SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE.

SO PREVIOUSLY WE WERE AT 20 FEET.

UM, THE RESIDENTS HAVE REQUESTED 40.

UM, WITH WE, WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO GET 10 MORE FEET BY REDUCING SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING UP FRONT AND HAVING MORE IN THE BACK.

BUT, UM, AND SO WE MAXED OUT THE, THE DISTANCE IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY WITH 30 FEET.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS HAS MOVED THE BUILDING TO THE FRONT A LOT.

THIS WAS, THIS WAS, UM, AND THEY CAN CLARIFY, BUT THERE WAS SOME BACK AND FORTH ON WHETHER THEY'D WANT THE BUILDING IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY OR THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

I THINK WHERE THEY SETTLED WAS HAVE THE BUILDING AS FAR AWAY FROM THE FENCE AS POSSIBLE, BUT STILL HAVE THE DRIVEWAY, UH, NORTH OF THE BUILDING AND NOT COMING BEHIND THE BUILDING.

AND SO I THINK WE ACHI WE, WE, WE'VE, AGAIN, MAXED THAT OUT WITH THE 30 FOOT BUFFER IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS IS THE ONE AREA THAT WE CAN'T, UH, ADJUST.

UM, SO WE HAVE A 14,480 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

THE RESIDENTS REQUESTED THAT WE CUT THAT IN HALF.

UM, THIS IS JUST ONE THAT FINANCIALLY MAKES IT COMPLETELY INFEASIBLE TO BUILD THE PROJECT.

UM, SMALL BUILDINGS JUST GET REALLY EXPENSIVE TO BUILD.

AND SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE ONE POINT WHERE WE, UH, WHERE WE DIDN'T COMPROMISE ON NEXT SLIDE, UH, RESTAURANTS.

WE HAD 4,200 SQUARE FEET OF RESTAURANTS AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

UM, WE ARE NOW AT ZERO.

UM, AND, UM, WE'RE NOW AT ZERO AND, UH, AREN'T ASKING FOR ANY RESTAURANT USES WITH NO RESTAURANT USES MEANS NO PATIOS.

SO THAT'S CHECKED OFF THAT ONE AS WELL.

UM, NO DRIVE-THROUGHS.

WE WERE NEVER DOING A DRIVE THROUGH, SO, UM, THAT WAS A, A KEY POINT FOR THEM, I THINK.

UM, BUT, UH, NO DRIVE THROUGHS BEING REQUESTED.

NO DRIVE THROUGH COULD BE APPROVED UNLESS SOMEONE CAME BACK IN THE FUTURE TO CITY COUNCIL.

BUT ONCE THIS BUILDING GETS BUILT, IT'S PRACTICALLY PRETTY INFEASIBLE TO ADD A DRIVE THROUGH LATER, UM, EASTERN AND A CURB CUT.

SO PREVIOUSLY WE HAD TO PUT IT TO THE, TO THE EAST.

UM, WE DIDN'T REALLY CARE WHERE IT WENT, BUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS KIND OF DICTATING THIS.

UM, WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM TO GET THIS MOVED FURTHER WEST AS, AS MARY HAS.

SO, UH, UM, SHOWED.

SO, UM, AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHEN YOU GUYS VOTED, IT WAS WHERE THE RED CIRCLE IS NOW.

IT'S FURTHER FURTHER WEST JUST TO CREATE MORE SEPARATION.

WE WOULD MOVE IT EVEN FURTHER WEST, TO BE HONEST, IF WE COULD.

BUT THAT WAS THE MAX THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS, UM, WOULD, WOULD ALLOW US, UH, JUST FROM A TURN TO RADIUS PERSPECTIVE.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

OH, NO CONNECTION TO OUR, OUR MANAGED DRIVE.

SO THIS WAS A REQUEST BY THEM.

WE NEVER HAD A CONNECTION THERE.

AND SO THAT'S ONE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO CONCEDE ON.

AND NUMBER NINE, THE WALL HEIGHT.

SO WE PREVIOUSLY HAD NO ADJUSTMENTS TO THE WALL.

UM, THE RESIDENTS, UH, REQUESTED THAT WE INCREASE TO THREE FEET.

WE'RE WILLING TO PROVIDE, UH, WELL, WE SAID WE CAN PROVIDE $25,000 TO THE HHOA.

THE WALL IS ACTUALLY NOT ON OUR, ON THE PROPERTY, AND SO WE DON'T WANNA BE, UM, YOU KNOW, TOUCHING OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTRIBUTE TO FUNDS TO INCREASE THAT.

BUT WITH THE 30 FOOT BUFFER, WITH THE 71 TREES THAT WE'RE ADDING WITH THE TREES THAT WE'RE SAVING, I'M HOPING THAT THAT HELPS ACHIEVE A LOT OF THE CONCERN THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

UM, BY, UH, BY HAVING THIS NEXT SLIDE, UM, TENANT RESTRICTIONS.

SO THE, UM, SO WE WERE RETAIL, RESTAURANTS AND MEDICAL LAST TIME.

UM, THE, UH, THE RESIDENT RE THE RESIDENTS KEY REQUEST WAS, UH, UH, GETTING RID OF RESTAURANTS.

AND THEY ALSO ASKED ABOUT LIKE SOME OF THE MORE NEGATIVE USES LIKE VAPE STORES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, WE RESTRICTED THIS TO RETAIL MEDICAL.

IF THERE IS A EASY WAY TO RESTRICT, YOU KNOW, FAST CASH PLACES, TATTOO SHOPS, SMOKE SHOPS.

WE'RE NOT LEASING TO THOSE PLACES ANYWAY.

SO IT'S AN EASY THING FOR US TO GIVE.

I JUST DON'T HAVE A EASY, I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EASIEST WAY TO DO THAT, BUT WE'RE VERY MUCH WILLING TO DO THAT.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

AND SO THIS, THIS SHOWS WHERE, WHERE WE'VE CONCEDED, WHERE WE'VE COMPROMISED.

SO THE BLUES ARE, YOU KNOW, 40 AND THEY WANTED, WE WERE AT 20 FEET.

THEY WERE AT 40 FEET.

WE COULD COMPRISE AT 30 FEET.

UM, THE WALL HIGH WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE TENANT RESTRICTIONS, UM, WHICH I THINK TENANT RESTRICTIONS, WE, WE'VE,

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THAT COULD, THAT COULDN'T BE ARGUED TO BE GREEN AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE GOT RID OF THE RESTAURANTS.

UM, THE ONLY TWO THINGS THAT WE COULDN'T DO IS THE REDUCE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT.

AND WE COULDN'T RE, WE COULDN'T ELIMINATE THAT SECOND ENTRANCE.

THE COMPROMISE WAS MOVING IT CLOSER, BUT FOR FIRE CODE, UM, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ELIMINATE THAT, TO ONLY HAVE ONE, UM, HAVE A SINGLE ENTRY POINT, WHICH WAS, UM, WHAT WAS REQUESTED.

UM, AND SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO, SO THE CURRENT PROPOSAL VERSUS ORIGINAL ONE.

UM, SO WE HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE WESTERN PROPERTY, WHICH COSTS US A HUNDRED K TO PAY FOR THE ACCESS A PLUS GATES FOR THE VERIZON BUILDING.

UM, WE FLIPPED THE, AND THIS IS VERSE THE, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, IF WE FLIP THE BUILDING FROM A LONGSTANDING LAKE TO BACK OF THE PROPERTY, WE HAVE THE 30 FOOT REAR SETBACK.

UM, WE HAVE 71 TREES INSTALLED.

UM, AND JUST TO MAKE THIS CLEAR, THIS IS THE CURRENT PROPOSAL VERSUS THE PD APPROVED PLAN BACK IN 2007.

SO THESE ARE WHAT WE FEEL ARE MASSIVE IMPROVEMENTS FROM THAT PLAN FOR THE RESIDENTS.

NO HARBOR MANOR DRIVE CONNECTION, NO DRIVE THROUGH $25,000 TO HOA FOR SCREENING.

AND THEN THE HVAC UNITS WILL BE SCREENED.

THAT WAS AT SOME POINT THAT WAS ASKED TO BE DONE.

AND, UM, WE ACTUALLY, WITH THE 30 FOOT GUT BUFFER, WE'LL PROBABLY PUT THE HVAC UNITS ON THE GROUND BEHIND THE BUILDING.

SO THEN YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO, UM, THEN THE, UH, THEN THE WALL WACKED AS ANOTHER BUFFER OF, OF SOUND AND YOU VISUALLY WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT.

UM, WANNA POINT OUT THAT PROBABLY THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT, UM, LEFT AND THE ONE THAT WE CAN'T SOLVE IS TRAFFIC.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WHAT MAKES THIS TRICKY IS THAT WHERE TRAFFIC IS MOST INTENSE IS WHERE RESIDENTS MOST COM YOU KNOW, MOST HAVE AN ISSUE.

BUT WHERE TRAFFIC IS MOST INTENSE IS ALSO WHERE RETAILERS WANT TO BE.

UM, I THINK I WAS HERE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WHEN SOMEONE HAD A BUSINESS IN THE, IN THE CAPELLA DOWNTOWN AREA, UM, WHERE, YOU KNOW, RETAIL WAS, YOU KNOW, THEY COULDN'T LEASE IT TO RETAIL.

UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD SOLUTION FOR IT.

I THINK THE RESIDENTS, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SEE A TRAFFIC LIGHT.

WE ARE ACTUALLY IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

I THINK A TRAFFIC LIGHT WOULD BE, UM, REALLY HELPFUL TO THE AREA AND REALLY HELPFUL TO THE RESIDENTS.

AND SO, UM, AND WE'VE, WE'VE OFFERED TO CONTRIBUTE FINANCIALLY TO THAT AS WELL.

AND, UM, UM, I THINK WE SAID A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AT THE P AND Z MEETING, WE'D BE WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE FOR A TRAFFIC LIGHT IN FRONT OF THE VERIZON BUILDING.

AND SO, UM, WE, WE UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERN.

WE ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THEIR CONCERN THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC HERE.

IT JUST ALSO HAPPENS TO BE WHY, UM, RETAIL TENANTS WANNA BE HERE.

RIGHT? SO, UM, JUST WANT TO, UH, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY ALIGNED WITH THE RESIDENTS THERE, BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SOLVE.

THAT IS A, UM, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE A CURB CUT THAT, THAT IS ON A, AN INTERSECTION.

AND SO, UM, HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, AND, UH, AND ONCE THE RESIDENTS SPEAK, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO, HAPPY TO COMMENT THEN AS WELL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COUNCIL MEMBER HILL? YEAH, YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE, UH, UNITS WILL PROBABLY GO ON THE GROUND AND NOT THE ROOF.

I MEAN IT, YOU SAY PROBABLY, I MEAN, WILL THEY, OR WON'T THEY? I I THINK FOR THE PURPOSES OF YOUR, OF THIS DISCUSSION, WE WOULD PUT THEM, ASSUME THAT THEY'RE ON THE ROOF AND THEY'RE SCREENED, WHICH IS WHAT THE REQUEST IS.

I'M HOPING THAT, UM, WHEN WE TALK TO THE TENANTS THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO THAT FOR THEM, IT MAKES SENSE TO GO ON BACK THE PROPERTY.

SO I WOULD BE, I WOULD SAY ASSUME THE MORE CONSERVATIVE SCENARIO, WHICH IS THAT THEY GO ON THE TOP OF THE BUILDING, BUT THEY WOULD BE SCREENED IN EITHER SCENARIO.

BUT GIVEN THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH ROOM BACK THERE, I THINK IT, THE TENANTS WILL CHOOSE TO, THAT'S, THAT, THAT WORKS PART OF THEIR PERMIT, NOT PART OF OUR PERMIT.

AND SO I DON'T WANNA, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT, TURN FOR THEM, BUT, UM, SO YEAH.

SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT GOES IN THE TOP OF THE BUILDING FOR, FOR TODAY'S PURPOSES.

AND, UM, HOW ARE YOU SCREENING THEM? UM, WE'LL JUST PUT SOME SORT OF LIKE, UH, IT, IT, IT WOULD LITERALLY JUST BE LIKE A, LIKE, ALMOST LIKE THE PARAPET THAT'S IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

IT'LL BE SOMETHING SIMILAR IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO LIKE, IF YOU'RE ON THE ROOF AND YOU, AND YOU TURN AROUND, YOU'LL SEE, LIKE, YOU'LL SEE THE LIP OF THE, THE TPO RUN UP.

UM, MITIGATE THE SOUND MM.

YOU'VE GOT A TWO FOOT PARAPET.

NOW ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RAISING THE PARAPET OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BUILDING SOME TYPE OF WOOD STRUCTURE ON TOP OF IT? WE, WE, WE, FRANKLY WE'LL DO EITHER.

UM, WE WE'RE HAPPY TO DO WHICHEVER THE CITY, THE, THE BUILDING OFFICIALS, YOU KNOW, WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

UM, BUT, UH, TYPICALLY WE WOULD DO IT BY JUST DOING AS LARGE OF A PARAPET AS WE NEED ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, UM, TO KEEP IT SIMPLE.

BUT, UM, YEAH, WHEN I LOOK AT THE, UM, PROPERTY ADJACENT, UM, WHERE, UH, EINSTEIN BAGELS IS YEP, THEIR PARAPETS 42 INCHES, I, I WANNA SAY.

SO IT'S, IT'S A GOOD SIZE THAT WILL,

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AND ALSO CREATE A VISUAL BARRIER.

AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE OF CONSIDERATION TO YOU GUYS THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING.

UM, AND IT'S BECAUSE IT'S SO LOW RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, IF YOU START TO GET YOUR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE EDGE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT UP FALL PROTECTION.

AND YOU'LL HAVE AN UGLY RAILING ON TOP OF THE PARAPET AND YEAH.

SO JUST TRYING TO AVOID UGLY, I THINK THAT'S FAIR.

UM, AND AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE THE CITY'S DIRECTION ON WHAT THEY VIEW AS SCREENING.

AND MY HOPE IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DO THAT, WE WON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE WE PUT THE UNITS ON THE GROUND ANYWAYS.

I THINK THE, THE GROUND IS A GOOD SOLUTION.

THANK YOU, OBVIOUSLY.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE, UM, THANK YOU, SIR.

AT THIS TIME, UH, WE'LL ENTERTAIN, UH, COMMENTS FROM INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST START AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.

WE HAVE OUR INITIAL, UH, FIRST TWO SPEAKERS ARE APPEARING VIA REMOTE MEANS.

UH, SO THE FIRST INDIVIDUAL WILL BE AAN KARNEY.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION? THERE IS ONE WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN ZOOM? WE DON'T SEE HIM ON HERE.

THERE WAS ANOTHER VISHI, UH, SUPERMAN.

YEAH, HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE ON ZOOM.

IS HE HERE? YEAH, I'M HERE.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO MEET WITH US OR LISTEN TO US.

WE DON'T SEE YOU, BUT WE HERE.

TAKE THE POWERPOINT DOWN.

YEAH, BECAUSE USUALLY IT'S ON THE SIDE, RIGHT? I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.

AS LONG AS HE'S HERE, THAT'S ALL.

THE, THE INTERNET CONNECTION IS REALLY BAD, SO I'M TRYING MY BEST TO, TO TALK.

UM, SO I'LL KEEP MY LIST BECAUSE OF THE, SHE'S COMING LATER.

I, MY SPEECH COMES LATER.

SO CAN I, UH, PASS IT ON TO RAM? WHO'S GOING TO BE TALKING FIRST? WELL, WE'VE, WE NORMALLY CALL THEM IN THE ORDER, UH, THAT THEY'VE SIGNED UP.

SO MR. KARNEY WOULD GO FIRST.

HE'S NOT, YEAH.

HE'S NOT HERE.

WELL, HE'S SUPPOSED TO APPEAR BY ZOOM.

YEAH, HE'S, HE'S NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT.

HE'S OKAY.

WELL THEN, MR. SUPERMANIUM, YOU'RE UP NEXT.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND RETAIN YOUR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.

YEAH, MY COMMENTS.

CAN I REFRAIN AND WAIT TILL, UH, THE SECOND SPEAKER IS DONE? IT IS DONE BECAUSE I, IF HE'S NOT ABLE TO TALK IN THE FIVE MINUTES THAT'S ALLOCATED TO HIM, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THERE.

SO WE REQUEST FOR, THE WAY IT WAS SIGNED UP WAS DIFFERENT IN MY EMAIL.

I HAD REQUESTED TO PUT ME IN THE END, BUT, UH, BUT WE SIGNED UP LIKE THAT.

I'M TRAVELING TODAY, UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT ABLE TO BE THERE.

WELL, SINCE WE'VE GOT YOU ON A GOOD CONNECTION AND WE CAN HEAR YOU AND WE CAN SEE YOUR PRESENTATION, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND JUST GO FORWARD, SIR, IN THE ORDER THAT THE SIGNUP WAS PROVIDED.

UM, I'M NOT, I'M NOT THERE FOR, FOR THAT, SO I CAN I, OKAY.

LET ME PASS, PASS IT ON TO RAHM RAMM, PLEASE START.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS, UH, RAHM AMI.

UH, SIR, UH, NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

HI, GOOD EVENING.

I'M RAHM.

I LIVE IN OUR ONE 30 WILD PLUM DRIVE.

UH, OUR HOME IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED, UH, DEVELOPMENT SITE.

UH, THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE A, YOU KNOW, DIRECT AND AS WELL AS OUR LASTING IMPACT ON OUR HOME, AS WELL AS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO, UH, SHARE TONIGHT IS NOT THE SAME WHAT WE PRESENTED IN, UH, IN APRIL.

SO IT'S NOT A REQUEST FOR KILLING THIS PROJECT.

UH, TODAY WE HAVE, UH, SIX SPEAKERS LINED UP TO GO THROUGH THIS LIGHTS, UH, INCLUDING MYSELF.

AND I'LL BEGIN WITH THE FIRST FEW SLIDES, SETTING THE CONTEXT, AND THEN I WILL HAND OVER TO OUR NEIGHBORS WHO WILL BE COVERING THE REMAINING SLIDES AND DETAILS.

WHERE DO WE STAND? THERE ARE FOUR THINGS WE WANT TO FOCUS TONIGHT.

THE ONE IS AC WHAT IS ACTUALLY CHANGED SINCE APRIL.

AND THE SECOND ONE IS THAT THE FACT OUR PROTEST NOW IS LEGALLY REQUIRES A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE AND THE MOTION WE ARE ASKING YOU TO MAKE.

AND THEN FINALLY, HOW THE REST OF, UH, TONIGHT, UH, PRESENTATION SUPPORTS THEIR REQUEST.

KNOW, PURCHASE CALCULATION BASED ON THE 200 FEET, UH, REQUIREMENT.

SO LET ME START WITH WHAT HAS BEEN, UH, RESOLVED.

UH, THE CITY HAS NOW VALIDATED 20%, UH, YOU

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SO THAT MEANS ANY APPROVAL TONIGHT REQUEST A SUPER MAJORITY.

OUR STAND TO BE, UH, HEARD IS NO LONGER IN THE QUESTION.

AND THE DEVELOPER AGREED, AT LEAST IN THE PRINCIPLE TO ELIMINATE A ON PATIO USE FROM THE THE SITE.

THIS IS, UH, KIND OF MEANINGFUL PROGRESS.

I WANT TO REALLY ACKNOWLEDGE IT.

SO HERE IS WHAT NOT CHANGED AND, UH, NOT BEING RESOLVED.

UH, THE CITY HAS NOT PROVIDED THE RESILIENCE THAT REQUESTED DATA FROM PAR.

IT WAS PROMISED AT AUGUST 11TH, MEETING ON THE PHASE TWO TRAFFIC, UH, STUDY WAS NOT COMPLETED WHEN THE PNZ VOTED UP TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT.

THE CUT THROUGH AS WELL AS THE U-TURN TRAFFIC AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRANCE HAS, HAS NEVER BEEN ENCOUNTERED BY THE CITY.

AND THEN SIGNAL ONE ANALYSIS WAS CONDUCTED AT THE WRONG INTERSECTION, SO IT DOESN'T REFLECT OR ADDRESS THE ACTUAL TRAFFIC CONDITIONS OR NEIGHBORHOOD EXPERIENCES.

SO DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, IT'S STILL MAJOR CONCERN.

THE BUILDING SIZE SETBACK AND, UH, COST PROXIMITY TO OUR HOMES HAVE NOT BEEN ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE PROJECT FITS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DOESN'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE NEXT TO IT.

UH, WHAT WE ARE ASKING TONIGHT IS NOT APPROVED, NOT DENIED.

CONTINUE THIS HIGH TEMPERATURE NEW DATE UNTIL WE GET, UH, ALL THE COMPLETE INFORMATION AND DIRECT THE CITY STAFF TO COMPLETE THE DEFENSIBLE, UH, TRAFFIC RECORD RETURN WITH THE REVISED PD UH, REFLECTING THE SIX CONDITIONS WILL LAY IT OUT.

SO THE MOTION SPECIFICALLY ASKED THE STAFF AND THE APPLICANT TO RETURN NUMBER FOUR THINGS.

THE FIRST ONE IS COMPLETE THE PHASE TWO TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WITH THE MULTI, MULTI, MULTI-DAY COUNTS AND THE FEATURE HERE, UH, PROJECTION AND THE SIGNAL WARRANT, UH, REAR THE CORRECT INTERSECTION, THE INDEPENDENT PEER REVIEW FROM THE QUALIFIED TRAFFIC ENGINEERING FORM AND THE REVISED DEPLOYMENT REFLECTING, UH, SIX CONDITIONS THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS PUTTING FORWARD, UH, TONIGHT.

SO THESE ARE THE SIX, UH, SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.

I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL.

IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE TIME LIMIT.

SO THESE, UH, SIX CONDITIONS ARE SPECIFIC, REASONABLE, AND ACTIONABLE.

EACH ONE IS GROUNDED IN ADOPTED CITY CODE, ESTABLISHED A STANDARD PRACTICE.

ALL THE CITY HAS OWN A VISION 2040 PLAN.

OUR NEIGHBOR ARE GOING TO TAKE, TAKE YOU THROUGH THE, UH, TRAFFIC RECORD AND CUT THROUGH, UH, DATA AND AS WELL AS THE REVISED DESIGN, REVISED DESIGN THE NEXT 15 MINUTES, STARTING WITH THE CITY OWNED, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEER ACTUALLY FOUND.

SO I'LL TURN OVER TO OUR NEXT SPEAKER WHO IS GOING TO LEAD THE, UH, TRAFFIC CARD.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SIGNED UP AS ISH JI.

UH, PLEASE SIR.

NAME AND ADDRESS.

UH, THE SIGNAL WARRANT WAS DONE FOR BRAVEWOOD, BUT NOT FOR SANDY LAKE.

HI, UM, THIS IS, UH, ISH MAJI 1 48 AMBERWOOD DRIVE, UH, CAPELLE, TEXAS IN THE AUBURN MANORS NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, SO I WANNA START OFF, UH, BY SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, MY FOCUS IS ON THE TRAFFIC RECORD, UH, THE SCOPE OF THE ENGINEERING STUDY, WHAT, WHAT IT ACTUALLY FOUND, WHERE IT FALLS SHORT, AND, UH, WHAT, UH, THE TRAFFIC RECORD DOES NOT SUPPORT, UH, WHY THE TRAFFIC RECORD DOESN'T SUPPORT THE APPROVAL FOR THE AUGUST 25TH, WHICH IS TODAY.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, SO WHAT THE STUDY DID, UM, WAS ESSENTIALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE STUDY WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE, UH, UH, WAS TO, WAS TO BE CONDUCTED ON THE DENTIN TAP AS WELL AS THE SANDY LAKE INTERSECTION.

UH, THE TYPE OF STUDY WAS COMMISSIONED, UH, FOR SIGNAL WARRANT ANALYSIS, AND THEN THE DATA WAS COLLECTED, BUT IT WAS ONLY DONE FOR A 24 HOUR PERIOD.

UH, IT WAS DONE ON MAY 13TH.

SO THAT WAS THE CURRENT ANALYSIS.

WHAT IT DIDN'T DO WAS IT DID NOT PERFORM A-A-T-I-A, UH, ANALYSIS TO THE IT, UH, UH, IT E STANDARDS.

UH, IT WAS NOT MULTI-DAY, AND IT'S REQUIRED TO BE AT LEAST FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS, UH, AND A AND A WEEKEND.

UM, SO IT WASN'T MADE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

AND IT WASN'T DONE FOR THE BUILD THAT IT WAS, IT, IT, IT WAS BEING DONE FOR.

SO OBVIOUSLY IT WAS SHORT, UH, IT WAS DONE IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

UM, NO INDEPENDENT PEER REVIEW THAT WAS ALREADY MENTIONED BEFORE.

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SO IT WASN'T COMPLETE.

SO THAT'S THE PHASE TWO REPORT THAT WE ARE JUST TRYING TO GET FROM YOU.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, WHAT THE CITY'S OWN STUDY ACTUALLY FOUND IS THERE ARE TREMENDOUS, UM, LEVEL OF SERVICE DELAYS ON BRAYWOOD AS WELL AS DENTON TAP TAP.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE BACKUP ON SANDY LAKE IS MORE THAN 4 42 FEET, WHICH GOES WAY BEYOND OUR ENTRANCE.

WE'VE HAD NUM, NUMEROUS CRASHES, WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH SITE DISTANCE.

WE'VE HAD OVERALL 53 CRASHES, YOU KNOW, IN THE 2000, 2020 TO 2025 PERIOD.

AND THERE ARE NO CONDITIONS THAT WERE, UH, PUT IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, ON THE PNZ, UH, APPROVAL IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT WAS ENGINEERING, SIGNAGE, ALL THOSE THINGS WERE DONE.

BUT NOTHING FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE U-TURN, THE RESOLUTIONS OF Q UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE WERE THINGS THAT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE RAISING IN THIS, UH, IN THIS, UH, PRESENTATION.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, WHERE IT FALLS SHORT, WE, I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THIS, SO JUST DAVE, ONE DAY COUNT, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.

UH, THE CUT THROUGH SCOPE WAS TOO NARROW, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, UH, WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF BYPASS TRAFFIC THAT KIND OF COMES INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS NOT CONSIDERED, NO TRIP, GENERATIONT WAS IN PLACE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECTED TI THRESHOLD WAS NOT PUBLISHED.

PHASE TWO WAS NOT FINALIZED LEVEL OF SERVICE, UM, YOU KNOW, WAS REFRAMED AS ACCEPTABLE.

UM, SIGNAL WARRANT STOPS TOO EARLY.

SO WE HAD A LOT OF SHORT SHORTCOMINGS THAT WE, WE DISCOVERED, UM, WHICH WE FELT WAS, UH, FALLING SHORT OF THE TIA PRACTICE.

UH, THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

NOW THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO ACTUALLY DO THE SHOW AND TELL, YOU KNOW, AND I WOULD LIKE FOR VHI IF YOU CAN, TO TAKE MY FIVE MINUTES, I HAVE A MINUTE AND A HALF LEFT ABOUT, BUT IF VISH CAN STEP IN HERE, WE, HE CAN TAKE THE FIVE MINUTES AND WE CAN ACTUALLY SHOW THE VIDEOS AND THE IMAGES IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE SLIDES IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.

UM, IF YOU'RE CONCLUDE WITH YOUR MARK, SIR, THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO HIM.

YES, YES.

ALRIGHT, THE NEXT PERSON WE WILL CALL IS VII SUPERMANIUM.

UH, THANK YOU.

PLEASE, SIR.

NAME AND ADDRESS, VISH SUPERMANIUM, 1 26 WEILL PLUM DRIVE.

COPPEL, MY HOUSE IS DIRECTLY BEHIND, UH, THIS PD AND THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO, UH, THANKS FOR BEING FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO GIVE US THE TIME.

UM, I REQUEST MARY TO H OVER THE FIRST PICTURE ON THE LEFT, AND I THINK THAT IS A PLAYABLE VIDEO.

OUR NORMAL, HOW OUR NORMAL, UH, DAY IS COMING IN AND OUT DARK MORNINGS, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, 44 SECOND VIDEO BE DONE NOW.

AND THIS, UH, PD IS ONLY GOING TO MAKE THIS THING WORSE.

YEAH, THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE SHOWS THE, UH, SHOWS HOW, UM, UH, HOW CRAZY THE INTERSECTION IS.

THAT'S AN, THAT'S AN ACCIDENT THAT TOOK PLACE AND IT HAS NOT BEEN FIXED FOR AT LEAST A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

BASICALLY, WE ARE, WE ARE SAYING THAT YOU POSTPONE THE ACTION FOR, FOR THIS TO A LATER DATE UNTIL THE PHASE TWO REPORT IS DONE PER THE STANDARD THAT IS, UH, PRESCRIBED BY THE IT AND THE T-M-U-T-C-D UH, PRACTICE NORMAL, UH, TRAFFIC STUDY PROCESS THAT'S GOING FOR A, FOR A PRO, FOR A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS.

SO THIS IS A PICTURE THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN ON APRIL 8TH, 2026 AT AROUND 6:00 PM YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE STANDING AT THE INTERSECTION OF ABO MANUS AND SANDY LAKE, RIGHT, UH, SANDY LAKE ROAD.

IF YOU TAKE THE FIRST PICTURE ON YOUR LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THE TRAFFIC LINED UP ALL THE WAY FROM OUR ABO MANUS DRIVE TO, UH, TO SANDY LAKE, UH, UH, TO DENTED TAP, ACTUALLY, SORRY, ON THE, THIS IS THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE IT'S GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO, UH, TO THE VERIZON BUILDING, IF NOT, IF NOT, FARTHER AWAY FROM THERE.

SO YOU 200 FOOT CUT, CUT THROUGH IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE COMING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE THERE IN BETWEEN ALL THOSE CARS.

SO THAT'S HOW THIS TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE.

UH, ONCE THIS, UH, IT'S GOING, GONNA MAKE THE ALREADY EXISTING BAD TRAFFIC WORSE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THIS STUDY DOES NOT PRO SUPPORT A PAROLE FOR, UH, FROM THE COUNCIL ON AUGUST 25TH.

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UM, WE DO REQUIRE A SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST, A SUPPLEMENTAL TRAFFIC STUDY, BASICALLY FOR THREE MIDWEEKS AND, UH, THREE MIDWEEK, UH, TRAFFIC COUNTS AND A SATURDAY COUNT.

THIS IS AS PER THE IT TRIP GENERATION TABLE.

WHY WOULD WE NOT FOLLOW THE, UH, PUBLISHED TRIP GENERATION, UM, UH, TRIP GENERATION REQUIREMENTS? UH, WE ALSO REQUIRE A REQUEST TO, UH, DO A RERUN OF THE SIGNAL WARRANT ANALYSIS, BUT WE ARE REQUESTING IT FOR THE WEST END OF THE PRO OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, NOT NOT OUTSIDE ARBOR MAN DRIVE.

THE REASON WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS IS THIS, WILL THE TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE WILL STOP THE TRAFFIC FROM COMING, UH, AND GIVE US A BREAK SO WE CAN GET IN AND OUT OF OUR HOMES MORE EASILY.

AND THEN LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST, WE DEFINITELY REQUEST AN INDEPENDENT PEER REVIEW OF THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE, UH, HOW, HOW THE STUDY THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE ALSO.

AND WE, WE DEFINITELY REQUEST SOME TRAFFIC MITIGATION CONDITIONS.

UH, THANKS, THANKS FOR LISTENING TO ME.

THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MONICA PANDA.

I AM GONNA SPEAK REALLY FAST.

UM, MONICA PANDA ONE 14 AMANS DRIVE.

I'M GONNA, UH, MARY, CAN YOU GOT THE RIGHT, RIGHT SLIDE.

SO QUICKLY GOING THROUGH WHAT WE DID, WE HAVE SOME FACTS IN FRONT OF YOU.

WE DID A 24 HOUR RESIDENT STUDY CAMERA, UH, WITH THE CAMERAS INSTALLED, WHAT WE FOUND AND WHY WE THINK THE P AND Z STILL NEEDS TO REASSESS THE PD, UH, AND WITHOUT RESETTING THE PROCESS OF SURVEY.

OR THE, THESE WERE P AND Z QUESTIONS WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS, UH, ON THE TIMELINE WERE VERY VAGUE AND NOT ANSWERED CORRECTLY.

IF YOU CAN HIT PLAY.

IT'S, SO THIS IS TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS AS THEY ENTER ABERMAN DRIVE.

THERE'S A STOP SIGN, THEY MAY STOP THERE, NOT STOP THERE, TURN LEFT, CIRCLE OUT.

AND THIS IS WHAT A TYPICAL CUT THROUGH LOOKS LIKE.

ONE THIRD OF THAT, THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT CUT THROUGHS, AND THEN THEY'RE EXITING OUT.

THERE'S ANOTHER STOP SIGN, WHICH THEY MAY OR MAY NOT STOP AT.

AND THEY'RE OUT THE DOOR, OUT THE AMAN ENTRANCE.

SO THERE IS A HOOP RIGHT THERE, BASKETBALL HOOP WHERE THERE KIDS ARE USUALLY PLAYING.

UM, THAT IS A PROBLEM 'CAUSE THEY GET TAKEN, YOU KNOW, OUT OF, THEY'RE NOT EXPECTING THIS.

WE ARE BACKING OUT OF OUR GARAGES.

SO THIS IS THE CUT THROUGH THAT WAS NOT ADDRESSED.

WE ASKED, UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

WE ASKED, UM, THE TRAFFIC CIVIL ENGINEER AT THAT TIME, WHETHER THIS WAS A PART OF IT.

NO ONE HAD THAT ANSWER.

I'M ASSUMING THAT WAS NOT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

UM, THIS IS THE, IN CASE YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THAT, UH, DIRECTIONAL MAP LOOKS LIKE.

YOU ENTER THROUGH AMANS DRIVE, MAKE A BIG CIRCLE AND EXIT OUT OF, UM, ABER MANS DRIVE AGAIN ONTO SANDY LAKE ROAD.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND.

WE HAD A 24 HOUR CAMERA, UH, IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES JUST FOR THIS PARTICULAR CUT THROUGH, WHICH IS JUST ONE PIECE OF IT.

THE OTHER ONE IS, IT ENTERS THROUGH ABER MANS GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH BAYWOOD.

WE DID NOT ACCOUNT FOR THAT ONE.

WE ALSO DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR THE ILLEGAL U-TURNS THAT HAPPENED AT OUR ENTRANCE RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

UM, THOSE BARELY, SOME OF THE CAMERA CATCHES BECAUSE OF THE ANGLE OF THE CAMERA.

SO WE HAD ABOUT, WE, WE HAD 63 VEHICLES THAT CAME IN, TURNED AROUND AND LEFT, AND THEY, NONE OF THEM STOPPED AT A HOME.

AND THIS IS JUST THIS CUT THROUGH.

THIS WAS ON 26TH JULY THROUGH 27TH, JULY NINE, 9:00 PM TO 9:00 PM 24 HOUR WINDOW, NOT A SCHOOL NIGHT.

SO NOT TYPICALLY REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WOULD BE RIGHT NOW.

SO THIS IS JUST BASED OFF OF THAT.

WE, I HAVE ABOUT 500 VIDEOS AND IF YOU GUYS NEED THAT FOOTAGE, I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT.

WHAT THIS ALSO SHOWS, UH, THAT THERE IS ALWAYS THIS CUT THROUGH.

SO EXCEPT FOR THE 12:00 AM TO 4:00 AM WINDOW, THERE IS ALWAYS A CUT THROUGH.

IT'S NEVER, NEVER, NOT A CUT THROUGH, RIGHT? THERE ARE CLUSTERS, OF COURSE, MIDDAY, 12 TO 3:00 PM OR SO, AND THEN OF COURSE THE EVENING PEAK RUSH, PEAK HOURS.

BUT THERE'S NEVER A TIME PEOPLE ARE NOT CUTTING THROUGH.

SO THIS IS A PROBLEM NO MATTER WHAT, JUST BECAUSE IT'S LEGAL, THERE'S A PUBLIC STREETS, IT'S NOT SAFE.

SO QUALITY OF LIFE AND IT'S NOT SAFE.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS ADDRESSED IRRESPECTIVE OF THIS PD, RIGHT? UH, WHAT THE BUILDER SAID.

SO THIS IS AN ISSUE.

WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT? WE JUST CAN'T LOOK THE OTHER WAY AND SAY, UM, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GONNA ADDRESS BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC STUDY PROVES THIS.

WE ARE SHOWING YOU EVIDENCE TO, UH, THINGS THAT ARE OTHERWISE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THE REASON THEN THE NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING THAT THE P AND Z DECISION WAS NOT MADE DUE DILIGENCE IS MY WORD.

I THINK THEY DID NOT DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE BECAUSE A, AT THAT TIME THE TRAFFIC STUDY WASN'T COMPLETE.

OUR QUESTIONS

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THERE WERE NO FIRM DATES GIVEN.

IT KEPT SHIFTING UNDER QUESTIONING, DIDN'T INSPIRE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN US.

CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC WAS NEVER DEFINED.

LIKE I SAID, THERE'S THREE CUT THROUGH TRAFFICS.

THE U-TURNS, THE CUL-DE-SAC, AND THEN THE ACTUAL, UH, BRAIDWOOD EXIT, UH, WHICH THE CITY DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE CRASH DATA WAS FILTERED TO FATALITIES ONLY.

SO MY RESPONSE TO THAT IS REALLY, SO A CRASH IS A CRASH IS A CRASH.

SO IT COMPROMISES THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

SO WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE HURT, WHETHER OR NOT YOUR CAR IS BANGED UP, IT'S TRAUMATIC.

IT COMPROMISES THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

IT'S NOT SAFE.

SO IN FACT, IN 2019, THE COPPEL POLICE DEPARTMENT DID A STUDY STUDY AND SAID THE SANDY LEG INTERSECTION AND DENTIN TAP WAS THE WORST, UH, AT THAT TIME.

SO I'M SURE IT'S GOTTEN WORSE SINCE THEN.

HASN'T GOTTEN BETTER.

UM, THE SIGNAL THEY LOOKED AT WAS THE WRONG INTERSECTION.

IT WAS NOT THE STATE FARM VERIZON THAT WE ARE REFERRING TO.

SO AGAIN, UM, THAT WAS NOT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

AND FINALLY, THERE'S PICTURES THAT WE SHOWED OF THESE TRAFFIC BACKUPS THAT YOU'VE ALSO SEEN.

DIFFERENT DAYS WERE WAVED OFF AND WE WERE TOLD IT'S A ONE OFF, NOT A ONE OFF.

WE'VE PROVED IT HOW, BECAUSE WE LIVE HERE AND WE'VE SHOWED YOU PICTURES.

AND IF, AGAIN, WE HAVE FOOTAGE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO YOU GUYS AS EVIDENCE.

UM, SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE HAVE HIRED CONSULTANTS, WE'VE HIRED, UM, EXPERTS.

AND THIS IS NOT JUST US SPEAKING.

WE HAVE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND WE WANT YOU TO DO THE SAME.

AND I HOPE YOU WILL DO THAT BECAUSE I GUESS WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM.

SO ONE CAPEL TO BE PROGRESSIVE, TO HAVE A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE, AND TO BE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT IN A CITY.

SO THAT IS THE UNDERLYING, UH, REQUEST THAT WE ARE MAKING HERE.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ISH PI GUARD.

I'M SORRY.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ISH PIAR.

NOW, IF THIS IS STILL NOT FINANCIALLY DOABLE, IF THE DEVELOPER IS STILL CRIPPING, NO, I'M SPENDING MONEY, OKAY? YOU CAN BUILD ANOTHER 5,000 ON THE RIGHT SIDE THAT GIVES 14,000 SQUARE FOOT.

NILES.

PERE ONE 40 JUNIPER DRIVE.

UM, WHAT WE ARE HERE SO FAR, YOU HEARD ABOUT TRAFFIC, RIGHT? AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

ALSO, WHAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT IS HOW THE PROPOSAL SO FAR CITY HAS RECEIVED IN THE 21 YEAR SPAN OF OUR PNG COMMISSIONER WHO HAS BEEN LEADING THIS COMMISSION.

THIS LOT HAS BEEN SITTING UNTIL FEBRUARY, 2025.

AND IN ONE WAY, I THINK FOR THE GREAT WORK, WHAT THIS PNZ HAS DONE, THIS IS KIND OF A STIGMA, IT HAS NOT WORKED OUT.

SO WE GOT A DEVELOPER AND WE ARE RUSH, RUSHING TO MAKE IT TO HAPPEN.

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THESE ARE THE TWO, UH, PLANS WE HAVE.

CONCEPTUAL PLAN, I I STILL CONSIDER DEVELOPER OFFERING IS CONCEPTUAL.

AND THESE ARE TWO CONCEPTUAL PLANS CONTEXTUALLY FOR 2026.

ABSOLUTELY MISFIT.

I WILL GIVE MORE CREDIT, CREDIT TO THE 2007 PLAN.

THE ONLY SUPER MISUNDERSTANDING THE CONCEPT HAD WAS ABO MANOR DRIVES WAS SHAREABLE.

SO THAT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING THERE, RIGHT? BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE OLD PLAN, THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS AWAY FROM NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE PERSON WHO DRAW THAT CONCEPT DUE RESPECT THE PRIVACY, SAFETY OF THE NEIGHBORS.

AND THAT THIS DEVELOPER IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRYING.

HE'S PLAYING WITH US AMERICAN FOOTBALL GAME, 20 FEET, 30 FEET, 50 FEET.

THIS IS NOT WHY WE ARE HERE FOR.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND, UH, ENTRANCE, SECOND MODEL HERE, THE 200 FEET FIRE LANE CAME AFTER WE, ALL OF US SPENDING FOUR MONTHS OF OUR LIFE.

IT WAS NOT REQUIRED.

WELL, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, AND WE HIRED OUR OWN CIVIL HERE, AND WE PUT TOGETHER THIS CONCEPT PLAN.

AND RIGHT NOW, IF YOU SEE THIS WITH THE SAME FIRE LINE THAT HAS COME OUT NOW, YOU CAN HAVE 9,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IN FRONT OF THE, UH, LOT TOWARDS THE SANDY LAKE.

AND I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE, THE EXAMPLE OF THAT RIGHT NOW.

WHY DO WE NEED TO, WHY WE ARE SAYING 7,000, 9,000? BECAUSE AS WE TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC, THE LAND USAGE AND THE LAND TRIPS ARE STILL NOT EVALUATED.

SO WE ARE GIVING YOU THIS DATA, WE GAVE THAT DATA TO YOU IN APRIL.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT, AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS 40 FEET OF SETBACK, GREEN SPACE IN BOTH SIDES OF OUR PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, BEHIND OUR HOMEOWNERS AND 40 FEET NEXT TO ABO MAN DRIVE, OKAY? THAT ALSO LINES UP WITH THE VISION 2040, YOU KNOW, PILLARS FOUR AND SIX, WE ARE HERE IN THE CITY.

WE EXPECT DEVELOPER TO RESPECT OUR CITY'S CITY'S VISION.

SO THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETELY DROPPED.

SO THIS 20 FEET AND 30 FEET BUSINESS, WHAT DEVELOPER IS DOING IS ABSOLUTELY NONSENSE.

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, UH, THIS IS COMING FROM THE DATA WE PRESENTED YOU IN APRIL.

I KNOW THAT TIME WE DIDN'T, WE ARE NOT PREPARED.

WE GAVE YOU A PRINTED COPY AND IT COVERS THE LAND USAGE.

IF YOU LOOK AT MEDICAL RENTAL USAGE, 4,600 SQUARE FOOT OF SPACE IS GONNA GIVE YOU 1 69 DAILY TRIPS IF YOU ADD SHOPPING CENTER 211 SPACE.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT AROUND 400 DAILY TRIPS AND NONE OF THAT ESTIMATION, THE TRAFFIC STUDY ENGINEERING TEAM HAS DONE PNZ DID NOT EVEN ENFORCE.

OKAY? SO THIS IS A PROBLEM.

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT PIECE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

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THE FEASIBILITY OF THIS RETAIL SPACE GOING TO THE FRONT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT POSSIBLE, BUT THIS DEVELOPER HAS NOT ENTERED IN BECAUSE HE IS ONLY AFTER MAKING EVERY SINGLE INCH USE FOR THE PARKING LOT AND CITY AND THE PNZ ESPECIALLY HAS IGNORED THAT.

SO, AND WE ARE SPENDING OUR TIME, OUR MONEY, OUR PASSION, OUR EFFORT TO SHOW YOU THIS IS POSSIBLE.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD.

NOW, THIS IS A EXISTING EXAMPLE, LIVE EXAMPLE, THE BISCUIT BAR AND CHIPOTLE.

WE DON'T WANT RESTAURANT, WE WANT CITY ENFORCE DEED TO RESTRICT THIS NEW PD WILL NEVER GET RESTAURANTS OR ANY OTHER THING UNLIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ARE SEEING THE LITTLE SCISSOR IN INSTEAD OF, UH, NAIL ALONG.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THESE TWO ARE EXISTING EXAMPLES.

THIS IS PZ APPROVED EXAMPLES.

HOW COME PM Z'S P Z'S PLANNING CANNOT QUESTION THIS TO DEVELOPER.

THIS IS SUCH A SHAME.

IF WE ONLY HAVE AN EXISTING SOLUTION, WHY SIX MONTHS OF OUR TIME, YOUR TIME IS WASTED? THIS NEEDS TO A HUNDRED PERCENT GO BACK TO P AND G.

SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS WE ARE WILLING TO COME TO THE CONCLUSION AND COME TO THE TABLE TO WORK WITH YOU, TO WORK WITH DEVELOPER BUILDING HAS TO GO TO THE FRONT.

NOW, I'LL EXPLAIN YOU WHY 40 FEET.

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND BY THE WAY, OH, PLEASE GO BACK.

PLEASE GO BACK.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRASH BIN AND THERE IS A AC UNIT, MR. HILL IS ON TOP OF THE BUILDING, RIGHT? BOTH OF THESE ISSUES WILL BE ADDRESSED IF THE BUILDING IS IN THE FRONT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

WE DON'T CARE ABOUT NEL LEASE, WE JUST WANT EXISTING MATURITIES.

GIVE US 40 FEET AND OUR SCREEN IS ENOUGH, THEN HAVE THE PARKING LOT.

OKAY, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE, PLEASE WATCH VERY CLOSELY.

OKAY? I I WANT EXTRA.

ONE MINUTE PLEASE.

OKAY, THE TOP BUILDING IS TOP.

TOP PICTURE IS BEHIND THE MCDONALD, AND IF YOU CAN SEE IT IS 20 FEET, NO PRIVACY FROM THAT WALL.

OKAY? AND THE BOTTOM ONE IS THE LIGHTS BEHIND THE BUILDING, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE ONE MONICA'S HOUSE.

DO YOU WANT THIS 15,000 STREET BUILDING NEXT TO OUR HOMES AND HAVING ALL THOSE LIGHTS? SO WE REQUEST YOU TO HOLD ON FROM YOUR DECISION MAKING.

WE, WE ARE WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS PD.

LET'S MOVE THE BUILDING TO THE FRONT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT, SIR.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ISH.

AGGARWAL NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE, SIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD EVENING.

NILESH AGRAWAL 1 1 7 WILD PLUM DRIVE, COPEL, TEXAS.

UM, SO WHAT I WILL BE SHARING IS THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, UM, THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE SURVEYS THAT CAME OUT.

UM, SO MAINLY THE SURVEYS WERE SENT TO, OR, OR THE SURVEYS.

WE, WE PUT A SUMMARY OF IS FROM THE ARBOR MANUS COMMUNITY, THE SHADY LANE COMMUNITY, UH, AND THEN TWO MORE COMMUNITIES.

AND FINALLY WE GOT A RESPONSE FROM, UH, THE STATE FARM, UH, UH, BUSINESS AS WELL.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE PLEASE.

COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE WINDAGE COMMUNITY.

SO IF YOU SEE THE SURVEY, I, I WON'T GO INTO EVERY SINGLE DETAIL, BUT THE MAIN ISSUE THAT CAME OUT FROM ALMOST EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT IS INCREASED TRAFFIC.

UH, SO THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE, UH, TOP ISSUE THAT CAME UP.

UM, YOU WILL SEE LIKE MONICA AND EVERYBODY ELSE DISCUSSED ABOUT THE DRIVE THROUGH AND THE U-TURN.

SO 1, 1 3 WHILE PLUM DRIVE RESIDENT ACTUALLY DID REPORT THAT A CAR THAT WAS, UH, IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE, UM, GOT HIT BY ONE OF THE CARS THAT WAS DOING A UA U-TURN FROM THE COMMUNITY.

SO IT IS A HAZARD AS WELL, UH, WHEN MORE TRAFFIC IS COMING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY AND TAKING A U-TURN LIKE IT WAS SHOWN.

UM, SO FEW, FEW MORE RESPONSES CAME IN IN TERMS OF THE DE RESTRICTION AS, AS IT WAS DISCUSSED, UM, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESTAURANTS, TOBACCO, VAPE, SMOKE, UH, OR LIQUOR STORES OR ANY ADULT STORES ARE NOT, NOT PERMITTED.

UM, THE SECOND ONE IS THE POLLUTION.

UH, SO NOISE POLLUTION, UH, LIGHT POLLUTION.

UM, SO, UH, MR. HILL, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE AC UNITS COMING DOWN.

SO IF THE AC UNITS ARE TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, AND IF THEY, THERE IS ONLY A 30 FEET, UH, DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HOUSE RESIDENTS AND THE BUILDING, THEN YOU WILL, WE WILL START HEARING THE AC NOISES AS WELL.

UM, I THINK 14,480 SQUARE FEET WILL, WILL CAUSE WAY MORE NOISE, LIGHT AS WELL AS TRAFFIC POLLUTION.

SO 9,000 SQUARE FEET IS, IS A MUCH REASONABLE, UH, GIVE AND TAKE FROM THE RESIDENTS FOR, FOR THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS KIND OF A COMMUNITY AS WELL, UH, OR DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

UH, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS IS FROM THE GEORGIAN DRIVE, UH,

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AGAIN, SAME THING, NOISE, SAFETY ISSUES, TRAFFIC ISSUES, AND, AND, UH, DUMPSTER AND OTHER ISSUES AS WELL.

SO THREE MAIN TOPICS, TRAFFIC, POLLUTION, AND SAFETY.

THOSE WERE THE THREE MAIN THINGS THAT CAME OUT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT, SIR.

UH, THE FINAL SPEAKER THAT WE HAVE SIGNED UP IS ASHANTI SUPERMANIUM.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, MA'AM.

UH, NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

HI, I AM SHATI SUB AND I'M AT 1 26 WILD PLUM DRIVE.

SO TODAY YOU'VE HEARD FROM SO MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND, UM, WE, GIVEN ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE AND THE FACT THAT WE, WE NEED MORE RESEARCH DONE, MORE ANALYSIS, WE ARE ASKING TO DELAY YOUR FINAL DECISION AND APPROVAL, UM, TO FIRST GET ALL OF THOSE THINGS DONE.

AND IT HELPS ALL STAKEHOLDERS TO BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE DECISION THAT'S BEING MADE.

AND, UM, WE UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPER HAS, YOU KNOW, WORKED WITH US AND, UM, WE ARE ASKING FOR SOME MORE IN ORDER TO MAKE THINGS GOOD FOR THE RESIDENTS BY MOVING THE BUILDING, UM, FORWARD, HAVING THE TRAFFIC STUDY ANALYZING.

AND PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS TO UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC MEANS MORE CUT THROUGHS, UM, REDUCE SAFETY, UH, ISSUES FOR MORE ACCIDENTS THAT ARE COULD HAPPEN.

AND I THINK THE DEVELOPER HAS ALSO AGREED WITH THAT.

THE REASON THAT THEY WANT A DEVELOPMENT THERE IS BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BRING, UM, THEY ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND IT'S GONNA BRING MORE TRAFFIC.

SO IN THE END, THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND ALL OF THAT IS MAINLY BECAUSE WE WANT A TRAFFIC LIGHT.

WE WANT THE BUILDING TO THE FRONT.

UM, WE WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN REDUCE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT.

WE WANT TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ENFORCE THE USE RESTRICTIONS.

I KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW YOU'RE RESTRICTING IT, BUT IF WE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT EVERY AGENDA AT THE CITY, I DON'T WANNA SUBTLY FIND OUT THAT THIS HAS GOTTEN APPROVED AND CHANGED.

SO CAN WE HAVE SOMETHING MORE CONCRETE TO ENFORCE THE USE RESTRICTIONS.

AND THEN FINALLY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE WALL THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE IS, UM, ON OUR PROPERTY, THE, IT BELONGS TO THE HOA, BUT WE REALLY NEED SOMETHING HIGHER TO INCREASE PRIVACY.

AND, UM, IF WE CAN HAVE A WALL, UH, WE NEED TO REDUCE ALSO THE LIGHTING AND THE, THE, THE LIGHT POLLUTION THAT WILL COME FROM THOSE THINGS.

YOU CAN SEE HOW SH UH, THOSE LIGHTS ARE VERY, VERY BRIGHT.

IN FACT, FROM MY HOUSE, I CAN SEE THE LIGHTS FROM SPROUTS WAY ACROSS ON THE OTHER SIDE.

UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T WANT SO MUCH BRIGHT LIGHTS AND WE WANT THE, ANY CAMERAS THAT ARE, UM, PUT IN FOR SAFETY AND SO ON TO BE RESTRICTED SO THAT WE, WE DON'T HAVE OUR PRIVACY TAKEN AWAY.

SO, UM, WE ARE ASKING THE COUNCIL, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO I THINK BY TAKING TIME, IT HELPS THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE VERY COMPLETE INFORMATION BEFORE MAKING A VOTE.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE, UM, HAVE ALL OF THIS OTHER INFORMATION ON THERE.

BUT I THINK THE MAIN THING IS YOU WILL BE MORE COMFORTABLE HAVING ALL OF THE INFORMATION FOR YOU TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.

CITY STAFF GETS MORE TIME TO ADJUST, TO RUN THE REQUIRED ANALYSIS TO, UH, DO THE SIGNAL WARRANT AT THE RIGHT PLACE, NOT AT BRAIDWOOD.

WHEN WE ARE AT, UM, SANDY LAKE, THE, WE ARE ASKING FOR A PEER REVIEW JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS INFORMATION IS THOUGHT THROUGH WELL.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY ELSE IN THAT INDUSTRY IS ABLE TO LOOK AT IT AND GIVE SOME ADVICE, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT.

WE ARE NOT, WE, WE RECOGNIZE, I KNOW WE CAME, WE WANTED TO SAY NO, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME DEVELOPMENT THIS HAS BEEN ZONED.

WE ARE JUST ASKING THAT IF WE CAN WORK AND KEEP THIS PROJECT GOING, MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION AND SEE IF WE CAN MOVE THE BUILDING TO THE FRONT, DO, UM, AND KEEP THIS PD INSTEAD OF STARTING ALL OVER AGAIN.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THAT.

WE'RE SAYING LET'S DO ALL OF THE RESEARCH.

LET'S, UM, MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION AND PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PROTECT THE PRIVACY, THE INCREASE SAFETY FOR NOT JUST OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT PUTTING THE LIGHT THERE ALLOWS FOR SAFETY FOR A LOT MORE PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND GEORGIAN DRIVE, WINDAGE, EVERYBODY'S BEEN SAYING THOSE ARE ISSUES.

AND, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT DOING THIS ANALYSIS, PUTTING THE LIGHT, MOVING THE BUILDING,

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ALL OF THIS AND KEEPING MORE TREES HELPS TO ACHIEVE THE VISION OF THE CITY THAT WE ALL LOVE AND WANT TO BE RESIDING IN.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, I THINK I'M JUST SAYING EVERYTHING NEEDS TIME, SO PLEASE TAKE THE TIME AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

UM, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY THANK YOU.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED, BUT IS, UH, AAN KARNEY AVAILABLE? NO, HE DIDN'T SHOW UP.

UM, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, UH, AT THIS TIME, UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL? I SEE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEW.

PROTO.

UH, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE CITY PRESENTATION PLEASE? WHERE, WHERE WE HAVE TWO BUILDINGS IN AGRA? YEAH, RIGHT HERE.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY A QUESTION, PLEASE.

SO THE ORIGINAL PD ON THE LEFT SIDE HAD TWO BUILDINGS, AND TODAY'S APPLICATION IS ONE BUILDING.

IS THAT A ZONING CHANGE? NO, BUT THIS, IT SAYS ZONING CHANGE APPROVAL REQUIRED.

WHAT IS THE CHANGE? WELL, THE REQUIREMENT UNDER OUR ORDINANCE IS THE FINAL SITE PLAN.

A CONCEPT PLAN IS JUST MERELY A CONCEPT THAT COULD HAVE ONE, BUILDING TWO BUILDINGS.

THE SITE PLAN IS THE DEVELOPMENT INSTRUMENT.

THAT'S AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

THAT INCLUDES WHERE THE BUILDING'S LOCATED, HOW BIG IT'S GONNA BE, WHAT THE REGULATIONS ARE, WHAT THE LANDSCAPING IS, WHAT THE, UH, HEIGHT AND ITS ADJACENCY, INGRESS AND EGRESS OUT.

THOSE ARE THE ACTUAL PLANNING DOCUMENTS.

THE CONCEPT PLAN IS JUST MERELY TO SHOW WHAT IS POSSIBLE, NOT WHAT IS NECESSARILY REQUIRED.

SO WE ARE APPROVING, THERE'S NO DIMENSIONS.

SO WE ARE APPROVING SITE PLAN TODAY.

DOES THAT REQUIRE A TRAFFIC STUDY? NO, SIR.

NOT IN THIS CASE.

THE USES ON THE BUILDING, GENERALLY WHEN WE HAVE USE THE USE, UH, DICTATES THE AMOUNT OF DENSITY, THE AMOUNT OF INTENSITY OF THAT USE.

THESE USES THAT ARE PROPOSED TODAY ARE THE SAME USES IN 2007.

SO WE'VE ALWAYS KNOWN WHAT THOSE USES WERE GONNA BE SO THAT THE SITE PLAN WOULD NOT DICTATE A TRAFFIC STUDY IF THEY DIDN'T WANT ANY ADDITIONAL USES BACK IN MARCH AND APRIL WHEN YOU FIRST CONSIDERED IT, THEY ADDED IN THE RESTAURANT BY DOING THAT, THAT INTENSITY OF USE THEN DICTATED WOULD THAT CREATE MORE TRAFFIC? THE CURRENT USES DOESN'T CHANGE USE.

SO THAT TRAFFIC, UH, ANALYSIS WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE IN THIS CASE OR RELEVANT IN MAKING THE CONSIDERATION.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT TRAFFIC'S NOT AN ISSUE AT THIS INTERSECTION, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S NOT RELEVANT TO MAKING A DECISION ABOUT WHERE THE BUILDING'S GONNA GO, HOW HIGH IT IS, WHAT THE LANDSCAPING IS, WHAT THE POINT OF INGRESS AND EGRESS ARE.

THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEFORE YOU, NOT NECESSARILY TRAFFIC.

IF THIS PROPERTY WERE AGRICULTURE AND WE WERE GONNA PUT A SHOPPING CENTER IN THERE, THEN ABSOLUTELY TRAFFIC WOULD BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE OF THAT INTENSITY OF USE OF BRINGING THAT, THAT THERE WHEN THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN SET FOR WHAT, ALMOST 20 YEARS.

SO I JUST WANNA RESTATE WHAT I HEARD FROM YOU.

SINCE THERE IS NO RESTAURANT AND PATIO, IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS STUDY OR NO CHANGE IN THE INTENSITY OF THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED ON THE SITE.

YES SIR.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OBSERVATIONS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE.

UM, THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO BIFURCATE THIS.

I WOULD CALL FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME, WALKER HINOJOSA SMITH.

COUNCIL MEMBER HILL.

DO, IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CAROL.

ALRIGHT, UH, EVERYONE THAT FAVORS, UH, CLOSING

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CAROL NEVILLES, PREM KUMAR, MATTHEW HILL.

NONE OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

COUNCIL MEMBER NEVILLE'S SECONDS.

UM, SO THE NEXT MOTION THAT I'LL CALL FOR IS TO APPROVE, UH, THE ITEM, UM, THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING, I GUESS THE PD TWO 14 R 11 C.

UM, UH, YEAH.

SO THIS TIME I'LL CALL FOR MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM EIGHT, UM, HAVING CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, SUBJECT TO STAFF CONDITIONS.

IS THERE, IS THERE A MOVEMENT? OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBER HILL, COUNCIL MEMBER CAROL HAS MOVED IT.

UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ANY COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER PRIM KUMAR.

THANK YOU MAYOR .

UM, SO I, MY MY COMMENTS ARE, UH, FOR, FOR THE RESIDENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I HEAR YOUR CONCERN AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'VE TAKEN THIS AS SERIOUSLY AS IF I WAS LIVING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I HOPE, UH, YOU REMEMBER MY COMMENTS FROM THE LAST TIME, UH, WHEN, WHEN WE VOTED ON THIS ISSUE.

UM, AS I SEE IT, THE ISSUE HERE IS THE LANDOWNER HAS RIGHTS THAT THE CITY HAS TO HONOR, UH, BECAUSE AS, AS THE ATTORNEY JUST SAID, THE, UH, LAND USE HAS NOT CHANGED.

UH, THE APPLICANT DID NOT HAVE TO DO AN AND TRAFFIC STUDY.

IN FACT, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY SAID, THE CITY DID NOT HAVE TO DO AN AND TRAFFIC STUDY EITHER.

UM, WHEN THIS, UH, WAS DISCUSSED, UM, I WANNA GO BACK TO THE APRIL 28TH CITY COUNCIL WHERE THE APPLICANT HAD A RESTAURANT THERE.

UM, I HEARD THE RESIDENTS HAVE EXPRESSED A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, AND OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, THE CITY, UH, WENT AHEAD AND, AND DID THIS TRAFFIC STUDY.

AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE STUDY THAT THEY HAVE DONE, RESIDENTS ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH, BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT IT WAS NOT A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE APPLICANT TO DO IT.

AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS I SEE IT, WE CAN'T DENY THE APPLICANT'S, UH, APPLICATION, UH, BASED ON THIS TRAFFIC STUDY BECAUSE, UM, WE HAVE FACTORED THIS, THIS, UH, TRAFFIC FOR, FOR ITS INTENDED USE.

UH, I, I, AND LIKE I SAID, I EMPATHIZE YOUR CONCERN WITH THE TRAFFIC.

I LIVE ABOUT A QUARTER MILE EAST ON SANDY LAKE, UH, FROM, FROM YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND AFTER TRAILER JOE'S OPENED, UH, DURING PEAK TRAFFIC.

WHEN I COME OUT OF MY STREET AND I CAN ONLY MAKE A RIGHT TURN BECAUSE THERE'S AN SOLID MEDIAN, I HAVE SOMETIMES HAVE TO WAIT THREE TO FOUR MINUTES FOR, UH, ME TO BE ABLE TO MERGE ON TO SANDY LAKE.

IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR ME, AND I'M SURE, UH, IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE LIVING IT EVERY, EVERY DAY.

UH, I AGREE WITH YOU, THE TRAFFIC IS BAD, BUT THE QUESTION IN FRONT OF ME IS, IS THE TRAFFIC SEVERE ENOUGH THAT, UH, WE OR SOMEONE PAYS $2 MILLION TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND, AND CONVERT IT INTO A GREEN SPACE? AND, AND IF WE DO THAT, WHO, WHO PAYS FOR IT? UH, YOU KNOW, DO, DO WE EXPECT THE, THE TAX PAYERS TO PAY FOR IT? AND IF WE DO THAT, I'LL BE SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL LAND THAT IS STILL UNDEVELOPED.

UM, PUBLIC SAFETY IS OUR COUNCIL'S NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

AND THEN BASED ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE HEARD, UH, IS THAT AS OF NOW, THERE, THERE'S NOT A HUGE SAFE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT CAN ALWAYS CHANGE.

AND THEN PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE TRAFFIC IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY, NOT THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSIBILITY.

SO IN THE FUTURE, UH, AND I, I WOULD REQUEST THE STAFF TO MONITOR THIS, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CLOSELY, AND IF THERE'S A NEED IN THE FUTURE, UH, I WOULD ASK THE STAFF TO COME BACK AND RECOMMEND AND, AND, UH, INSTALLING A SIGNAL THERE.

UH, SO I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN, UH, AND, AND SAY THAT I'M GOING TO, UH, VOTE TO APPROVE THIS MOTION.

I, I HEAR YOU, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.

UH, BUT WE ARE TIED TO, UH, FOLLOWING THE LAW.

WITH THAT, WE, UH, I AM GOING TO BE APPROVING THIS, UH, MOTION.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MATTHEW.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PROAM.

UM, I JUST WANT TO KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT WE LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY AS WELL.

IT IS BAD AT THAT INTERSECTION AT THE VIDEO THAT YOU PLAYED TO SHOW BAD TRAFFIC AT THAT TIME.

UH, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW SOME OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT IN FRONT OF US, ESPECIALLY THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST AND THE LAND USE THAT THE ATTORNEY JUST MENTIONED.

SO,

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ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, WELL THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND OH, OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER HINOJOSA SMITH.

I, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.

I KNOW THAT THIS HAS TAKEN UP A LOT OF TIME, A LOT OF YOUR TIME, A LOT OF YOUR ENERGY, A LOT OF EMOTION.

UM, AND PLEASE KNOW THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE HEARD AND WE UN WE, WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS.

UM, AS MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER MENTIONED, UM, I, I KNOW THAT THAT AREA IS, IS BUSY.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THOSE, I WOULD CALL THEM KIND OF HOTSPOTS IN THE AREA.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR HOW WE CAN, UM, CONTINUE TO, TO MAINTAIN AND KEEP PUBLIC SAFETY AT OUR, UM, AS A PRIORITY.

UM, AGAIN, KIND OF AS MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS MENTIONED AS WELL, RIGHT? WE ALSO HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF, UM, WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US AND WHAT WE CAN, AND WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO FROM A, FROM A STANDPOINT OF ALLOWING, UM, THE LAND USE TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO, AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I DO APPRECIATE IT.

I KNOW A LOT OF TIME HAS BEEN PUT INTO IT AND YOUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN HEARD.

OKAY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, I JUST WANNA SAY A COUPLE THINGS.

UM, THERE WAS A ARTICLE IN THE RAMBLER AND THE, THE, I'M NOT GONNA SAY WHO SAID IT, IT DOESN'T MATTER, BUT THE, THE STATEMENT WAS MADE THAT NO ONE HAS TAKEN EVEN A MINUTE TO SIT DOWN WITH THE HOMEOWNERS AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BOTHERING THEM.

BUT OF COURSE, ALL IT TOOK TO GET ME TO MEET Y'ALL WAS A SINGLE EMAIL FROM MONICA.

AND IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE HOMEOWNERS.

YOU LOVE YOUR HOMES, YOU LOVE YOUR COMMUNITY, UH, AND I WAS HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU AND, AND FRANKLY, IF WE STARTED ALL THIS OVER AGAIN TOMORROW, I'D MEET WITH YOU AGAIN.

YOU WERE PROFESSIONAL, UH, YOU WERE KIND, UH, YOU WERE VERY GRACIOUS.

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY CONSTRUCTIVE MEETING.

I THINK WE MET FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS.

UM, AND I'M PROBABLY TO BLAME FOR THE CONFLATION OF THE TRAFFIC ISSUES WITH THE LAND USE ISSUES BECAUSE WHEN WE CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING, ONE CONCERN I HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR WAS TRAFFIC.

AND AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU MAY EVEN RECALL THAT I, I REMARKED THAT WHEN I'M TRYING TO GET OUT FROM MILK CREAMERY, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO CROSS SANDY LAKE.

SO I I, I GET THAT.

I MEAN, A DENTON TAP.

SO I, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT FULLY.

I'VE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED IT.

UM, SO I ASKED IF WE COULD CONDUCT A TRAFFIC STUDY.

AND, YOU KNOW, WITH RESPECT TO THE BRAIDWOOD LOCATION, IT, IT JUST, IT'S NOT SUPPORTED BY THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

UH, THAT IS A COMPANY THAT WE USE.

THEY'RE HIGHLY COMPETENT, HIGHLY PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION.

AND SO I HAVE TO DEFER TO THEIR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT WITH RESPECT TO THOSE CONCLUSIONS.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAD SUGGESTED A SIGNAL, THEN I WOULD'VE SUPPORTED THAT JUST AT THE SAME TIME.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO MEET YOU.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN UNDER VERY DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR YOUR FELLOW NEIGHBORS.

UH, Y'ALL ARE A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF, UH, WHAT, WHAT WE, WE HOPE TO HAVE IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH RESPECT TO THE SUPPORT YOU'VE PROVIDED EACH OTHER.

UM, SO THAT WOULD CONCLUDE WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY TO ALL OF YOU.

UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER NEVILLES, THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TIM.

UM, I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING HERE TONIGHT AND THE SEVERAL NIGHTS THAT YOU'VE BEEN HERE.

UM, I CAN'T IMAGINE THE TIME THAT YOU'VE, YOU'VE PUT IN TO THAT, UM, TO PREPARING FOR TONIGHT.

UM, I DO WANT TO, UH, JUST SHARE MY THOUGHTS.

MY, MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SAID, UM, EVERY EMAIL THAT YOU'VE SENT, EVERYTHING THAT YOU, I'VE READ IT, I HAVE A GOOD FEELING THAT ALL OF US HAVE READ IT.

I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR EVERYONE, BUT, UM, WE TAKE WHAT OUR RESIDENTS SAY VERY SERIOUSLY.

AND I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THE BALANCE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO STRIKE WITH THE, UH, THE RIGHTS OF YOU YOURSELF AS PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE RIGHTS OF THE, UH, LAND OWNER AND DEVELOPER AS WELL.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THAT BALANCE.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS IS DIFFICULT.

UM, I AM IN YOUR AREA AND YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD QUITE OFTEN BASED ON WHERE I I WORK AND I UNDERSTAND, UH, A A LOT ABOUT WHAT YOU GUYS DEAL WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AND I'M, I AM SYMPATHETIC TO THAT.

UM, I DO AGREE WITH MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT SAID THAT WE'RE, THIS ISN'T JUST A, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WALK OUTTA THE ROOM, WE FORGET EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID.

UM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS KNOW, WE WILL STILL MONITOR.

WE'RE STILL GOING TO LOOK, WE'RE STILL GONNA SEE

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IF FUTURE JUSTIFICATIONS ARE NECESSARY, UM, MOVING FORWARD.

'CAUSE WE WANT OUR CITY TO BE SAFE.

AND I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK THAT, UH, IF THIS, UH, IS APPROVED, THAT WE'RE SAYING THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT SAFETY.

'CAUSE WE DO, UM, WE, WE HAVE A ZONING ISSUE AND WE HAVE, THOSE ISSUES ARE SEPARATE FROM TRAFFIC ISSUES, AND WE WILL LOOK AT THEM SEPARATELY.

SO, UH, I JUST WANT DON'T WANT YOU TO BELIEVE THAT, THAT YOUR CONCERNS HAVE FALLEN ON DEAF EARS.

I KNOW THAT THAT MIGHT SOUND LIKE WE'RE NOT LISTENING RIGHT NOW IN THIS SITUATION, BUT I PROMISE YOU, EVERYONE HERE, WE LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE SHARE VERY SIMILAR BELIEF SYSTEMS ABOUT WHY WE LIVE HERE, AND THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE, IS, IS PARAMOUNT BASED ON WHAT WE DO AND, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY POLICIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I JUST DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK THAT YOUR CONCERNS HAVE FALLEN ON DEAF EARS TONIGHT.

UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

UM, I WILL COMMENT THAT, UM, BELIEVE THE DEVELOPER HAS SHOWN MORE FLEXIBILITY ABOUT TRYING TO FIND ACCOMMODATIONS THAN ANY OTHER DEVELOPER IN MY FIVE YEARS ON CITY COUNCIL.

UM, SO I KNOW IT MAY SEEM LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WALLS ARE STILL BEING PUT UP.

I I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, THE EFFORTS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULDN'T GO THROUGH THE, THE EFFORT TO TRY TO MAKE THE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT YOU'VE DONE.

AND AGAIN, I, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO RESIDENTS.

YOU'RE DOING WHAT WE TRY TO DO AND LISTEN AND TRY TO BE AS ACCOMMODATING AS POSSIBLE.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A DEAL.

YOU GOTTA MAKE MONEY.

YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, THERE'S A, THAT, THAT ECONOMIC, UH, COMPONENT TO IT.

SO I AT LEAST APPRECIATE YOU TAKING TIME TO MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS, LISTEN AND TRY TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, UH, TO TRY TO MAKE IT AS ACCOMMODATING AS POSSIBLE.

SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE, FOR YOUR, YOUR EFFORTS, UH, AND YOUR HARD WORK TO, UM, THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

IT, IT IS NOTED AND APPRECIATED.

OKAY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HILL? YEAH, I, I JUST WANTED TO SAY EVERYONE TO EVERYONE, UH, IN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THAT LONG DISCUSSION, UM, AND I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID, AND I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS.

UM, IF WE APPROVE THIS, UH, ZONING CASE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THESE EXISTING TRAFFIC ISSUES ARE FORGOTTEN AND HAVE GONE AWAY.

UH, I THINK AS THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, COMES ONLINE, WE, WE START TO SEE, UM, POTENTIALLY MAY, MAYBE MORE ISSUES, MAYBE NOT.

UM, WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE, UH, INTERSECTIONS AT BRAYWOOD AND, UH, RIGHT THERE AT THE, AT VERIZON AND SEE IF, UM, THERE, THERE ARE SOME BETTER SOLUTIONS BECAUSE THERE, THERE JUST HAS TO BE.

AND I KNOW OUR CITY STAFF, UM, HAS A GREAT DEAL OF TALENT AND CAN, YOU KNOW, HELP US GET THROUGH THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING THERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CUT THROUGHS AND THE U-TURNS, UM, MAYBE A LIGHT IS WARRANTED FURTHER DOWN AWAY FROM BRAIDWOOD, UH, IN THE FUTURE.

'CAUSE THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY GIVE SOME BREATHING SPACE.

UM, BUT KNOW THAT, UM, ALL YOUR CONCERNS HAVEN'T FALLEN ON DEAF EARS.

I APPRECIATE THE TIME I SPENT WITH YOU AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT EACH AND EVERYONE, UH, GAVE ME.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA HAVE TO VOTE ON THE ZONING CASE.

UH, YES, THANKS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, AT THIS TIME, I GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR A VOTE ON ITEM EIGHT, SUBJECT TO STAFF CONDITIONS AS THE MOTION'S BEEN MADE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? WALKER HINA, HOSA SMITH, CAROL NEVILLES, PREM KUMAR, MATTHEW HILL.

NONE OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT PARTICIPATED.

SORRY, MAYOR MAYS, YOU HAVE THE GAVEL, SIR? YES.

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YES, I DO.

, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ITEM NUMBER NINE

[9. 2026-0335 PUBLIC HEARING: Hold a Public Hearing and consider adoption of an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Coppell, Texas, establishing the City’s participation in the Texas Enterprise Zone Program pursuant to the Texas Enterprise Zone Act, Chapter 2303, Texas Government Code as revised, identifying available tax incentives, designating a liaison for communication with interested parties, and nominating Dave & Buster’s I, L.P. located at 1221 S. Belt Line Road, Coppell, Texas, to the Office of the Governor, Economic Development and Tourism (EDT) through an Economic Development Bank as a Texas Enterprise Zone Project, providing for an effective date and authorizing the Mayor to sign.]

IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MS. MINDY HURLEY TO COME FORWARD AND READ THE ITEM INTO THE RECORD.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF COPPEL, TEXAS, ESTABLISHING THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN THE TEXAS ENTERPRISE ZONE PROGRAM PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS ENTERPRISE ZONE ACT.

CHAPTER 2, 3 0 3, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AS REVISED, IDENTIFYING AVAILABLE TAX INCENTIVES, DESIGNATING A LIAISON FOR COMMUNICATION WITH INTERESTED PARTIES AND NOMINATING DAVE INVESTORS' ONE LP LOCATED AT 1221 SOUTH BELTLINE ROAD, COPPEL, TEXAS TO THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM THROUGH AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BANK AS A TEXAS ENTERPRISE ZONE PROJECT, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO SIGN .

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

TONIGHT WE ARE HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERING THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TEXAS ENTERPRISE ZONE PROGRAM AND TO NOMINATE ONE OF COP HILL'S BUSINESSES FOR THE TEXAS ENTERPRISE ZONE PROGRAM.

THE TEXAS ENTERPRISE ZONE PROGRAM IS AN INCENTIVE OFFERED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS THROUGH THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR.

THIS INCENTIVE IS DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE THE CREATION OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND JOB CREATION AND OR RETENTION.

THE INCENTIVE IS A REBATE OF THE STATE'S PORTION OF SALES AND USE TAX ON QUALIFIED EXPENDITURES.

THE DURATION OF THE INCENTIVE CAN BE AWARDED FOR ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO FIVE YEARS TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE INCENTIVE.

THE BUSINESS MUST BE NOMINATED BY THE MUST BE NOMINATED BY THE MUNICIPALITY.

MUST HAVE A MINIMUM OF $40,000 IN CAPITAL INVESTMENT, MUST CREATE OR RETAIN JOBS, A PERCENTAGE OF WHICH MUST BE HELD BY INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED VETERANS OR RESIDENTS OF THE ENTERPRISE ZONE, AND MUST MAINTAIN THE JOBS FOR THE DURATION OF THE DESIGNATION PERIOD, OR AT LEAST THREE YEARS AFTER THE DATE ON WHICH THE TAX BENEFIT IS RECEIVED.

THE CITY'S ONLY ROLE IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT AN ORDINANCE NOMINATING A BUSINESS FOR THE PROGRAM.

THE CITY DOES NOT CONTROL ANY OF THE CRITERIA FOR THE AWARD.

DAVE AND BUSTER'S CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS IS LOCATED AT 1221 SOUTH BELTLINE ROAD HERE IN COPPEL.

THIS IS A MAP TO SHOW YOU VISUALLY WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED HERE IN COPPEL.

UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BLUE OUTLINE PARCEL, THEY ARE IN THE BUILDING THAT IS FARTHEST EAST AND CLOSEST TO BELTLINE ROAD.

THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR THIS PARCEL IS BLOCK D LOT ONE R TWO R OF THE NORTH LAKE 6 35 BUSINESS PARK, WHICH IS 24.437 ACRES IN SIZE.

DAVE AND BUSTERS HAS REQUESTED THE CITY TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND PASS AN ORDINANCE TO NOMINATE THEM FOR THE TEXAS ENTERPRISE ZONE PROGRAM.

DAVE AND BUSTERS IS INVESTING $8 MILLION TO MODERNIZE AND ENHANCE THEIR CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS AND BUSINESS OPERATIONS.

OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THEY WILL BE ADDING 10 JOBS FOR A TOTAL OF 297 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

OH, SORRY.

THERE IS NO IMPACT TO THE CITY'S FINANCES.

THE CITY'S NOT BEING ASKED FOR ANY ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES.

THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE RAMBLER ON SATURDAY, AUGUST 15TH, WAS POSTED ON THE CITY'S BULLETIN BOARD AND PUBLISHED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND PASSING THIS ORDINANCE SATISFIES ALL OF THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION AND THE TEXAS ENTERPRISE ZONE PROGRAM AND FOR THIS NOMINATION FROM THE CITY.

SO WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, COULD YOU GO OVER THE NUMBER OF APPLICANTS THAT WE GET TO NOMINATE AND THE PERIOD THAT WE GET TO DO THAT OVER, PLEASE? ABSOLUTELY.

BASED ON THE SIZE OF OUR COMMUNITY, WE ARE ONLY ALLOWED SIX NOMINATIONS PER BIENNIUM.

UM, WE HAVE NOT HAD A NOMINATION SINCE 2011, SO WE, WE DO NOT SEE THESE REQUESTS ALL THE TIME.

IT'S BEEN 15 YEARS.

YES, THANK YOU COUNCIL, UH, MAYOR PRO, TIMM WALKER.

UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I, I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL THAT DAVE AND BUSTER'S LOCATES OUR HEADQUARTERS HERE IN TOWN.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD REALLY A GREAT DEAL OF SUCCESS IN ATTRACTING HEADQUARTER CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS WITH WELL-BUILT AND, UH, NEXT TARA.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST BEEN FANTASTIC, UH, MCLAREN, UH, AND I'M, I'M SURE I'M FORGETTING SOME, BUT, UH, BUT I, IT'S REALLY EXCITING THAT WE'RE ATTRACTING THAT MANY CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS.

AND SO TO ME, I THINK THERE'S A WONDERFUL WAY TO SUPPORT ONE OF THEM.

AND DAVE AND BUSTER'S A GOOD CORPORATE CITIZEN, AND, UH, IF THEY'VE REQUESTED THIS, THERE'S NO FINANCIAL IMPACT ON THE CITY, BUT IT IS EXCELLENT RECOGNITION OF THEM.

AND, UH, I'M ALL IN FAVOR, 28

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OTHERS.

WOW.

, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER NEVILLES, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, GETTING US UP ON, UH, GETTING US UP TO SPEED ON THIS.

UM, OBVIOUSLY MOST OF US, I DON'T THINK WE'RE ON COUNCIL THE LAST TIME SOMEONE WAS NOMINATED, SO, UM, I REALLY HOPE THAT, UH, MORE, UH, OF OUR HEADQUARTERS WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND CHOOSE TO REINVEST, UH, AND, AND USE THIS AS A TOOL TO, TO HELP FUEL THAT REINVESTMENT.

SO I'M HOPING THAT, UH, BY BRINGING THIS UP, NOT ONLY IS IT GREAT FOR DAVE AND BUSTERS, I LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT ONE OF OUR LOCAL HEADQUARTER BUSINESSES, BUT I REALLY HOPE THAT OTHER PEOPLE WILL SEE, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS PROGRAM AND, UH, LOVE TO SUPPORT THEM IN THE FUTURE.

SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO US, AND THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING, UH, UH, DAVE AND BUSTERS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST BEING ABLE TO HAVE THIS BE A POSITIVE THING FOR THEM.

SO DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THIS COUNCIL MEMBER, PRM KUMAR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, MY PEER COUNCIL MEMBER NEVER KIND OF STOLE MY THUNDER, BUT, UH, MS. HURLEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, REJUVENATING THIS INITIATIVE.

UH, THANKS TO DAVE AND BUSTERS FOR BEING NOMINATED.

I HOPE, UH, WE SPREAD THIS MESSAGE AND WE HAVE THOSE SIX CORPORATIONS EVERY BIENNIUM, UH, NOMINATED.

UH, AND I KNOW, UH, OUR CHAMBER PRESIDENT, ROBIN, SHE USUALLY LISTENS IN ROBIN.

IF YOU'RE LISTENING, UH, FROM A CHAMBER STANDPOINT, YOU SHOULD BE PUSHING MORE OF YOUR MEMBERS TO BE DOING THIS.

COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MINDY? SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE TO SAY ANYTHING? I'M NOT SURE IF THEY OH, OKAY.

GREAT.

UH, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU NEED TO SPEAK, COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

SURE.

I'VE JUST BEEN CHASTISED FOR CATCHING YOU OFF GUARD, SO I APOLOGIZE.

OH, THAT, THAT'S FINE.

TIFFANY, MICHELLE.

I AM A VICE PRESIDENT OF TAX FOR DAVE AND BUSTERS, AND MY RESIDENCE ADDRESS IS 45 40 PAINT ROCK DRIVE, PROSPER, TEXAS.

BUT MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 1, 2, 2, 1 SOUTH BELTLINE ROAD.

I HAVE QUITE A COMMUTE.

YEAH, WE HAVE, UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, RESIDENCES HERE THAT WOULD CUT YOUR COMMUTE DOWN, .

RIGHT, RIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.

UM, I'M HONORED TO BE HERE AND THIS IS EXCITING AND DAVE AND BUSTERS IS A GREAT COMPANY.

IT'S A GREAT COMPANY TO WORK FOR, AND WE ARE VERY CHARITABLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT AND, UM, AND, AND RECEIVE THIS NOMINATION.

AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR ME, I'M HAPPY TO, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE.

COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? WE'RE JUST, IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO GET YOU GUYS HERE.

WE'RE JUST PLEASED THAT YOU'RE HERE AND, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR ABSOLUTELY RELOCATION HERE.

ABSOLUTELY, YES.

WE, WE LOVE IT.

WE LOVE OUR NEW SPACE AND WE'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT FOUR YEARS, FOUR AND A HALF YEARS, AND IT'S DEFINITELY AN UPGRADE, SO, ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANKS FOR COMING OUT.

ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO PROVIDE DAVE AND BUSTERS WITH TAX ABATEMENTS, TAX DEFERRALS, TAX INCENTIVES, AND TAX REFUNDS BECAUSE IF THE CITY DOES PROVIDE ANY OF THESE BENEFITS TO DAVE AND BUSTERS, THAT WOULD GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER ANY SUCH AGREEMENT WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB DESPITE MY LACK OF HAIR AND PUBLISH AN EXCRUCIATINGLY DETAILED REPORT, I VOW TO OBSESSIVELY SCRUTINIZE ANY SUCH A DEAL.

UH, WE DO HAVE ONE APPLICANT OR ONE COMMENT FROM THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING THAT IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

AND, UH, THAT IS MR. DAN KOHLER.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, MR. CITY MANAGER, ESTEEMED MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS DAN KOHLER.

I RESIDE AT 5 2 1 ANDERSON AVENUE IN COPPEL WITH MY BREATHTAKINGLY BEAUTIFUL WIFE AND OUR TWO HEARTBREAKINGLY HANDSOME SONS.

I CHUCKLED WHEN I READ THE MEMO REGARDING THIS ITEM.

THE PART THAT AMUSED ME WAS ABOUT DAVE AND BUSTER'S PLANS TO ADD 10 NEW EMPLOYEES AT THEIR HEADQUARTERS IN COPPEL.

I HOPE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO APPLY FOR THOSE JOBS HAVE BETTER EXPERIENCES THAN I'VE HAD THIS YEAR.

IN MARCH, I APPLIED FOR A POSITION AT DAVE AND BUSTER'S CALLED MANAGER OF INTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS AND EMPLOYER BRAND.

OTHER THAN AN AUTOMATED RESPONSE THAT ARRIVED WITHIN SECONDS, I HEARD NOTHING FROM DAVE AND BUSTER'S ABOUT THIS APPLICATION.

THAT SAME JOB WAS REPOSTED IN JUNE, SO I APPLIED FOR IT AGAIN.

TWO DAYS LATER, I RECEIVED A FORM LETTER THAT SAID DAVID BUSTERS HAD DECIDED AFTER CAREFUL REVIEW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OTHER CANDIDATES.

NEARLY SIX WEEKS LATER, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM INDEED.COM THAT SAID I COULD BE A STRONG MATCH FOR AN OPEN POSITION AT DAVE AND BUSTER'S THAT POSITION, MANAGER OF INTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS AND EMPLOYER BRAND, THE SAME JOB I HAD ALREADY APPLIED FOR TWICE.

AT THAT POINT I ASKED MY FACEBOOK FRIENDS IF I KNEW ANYBODY WHO KNOWS ANYBODY THAT WORKS AT THE DAVE AND BUSTER'S HEADQUARTERS.

TWO OF MY FRIENDS TOLD ME ABOUT A COPPEL RESIDENT WHO'S THERE IN AN HR CAPACITY, AND ONE OF THEM GAVE ME HER WORK EMAIL ADDRESS, WHICH ALLOWED ME TO FORWARD THE MESSAGE FROM INDEED AND REITERATE MY INTEREST SO FAR, NO RESPONSE.

SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, I STRONGLY

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OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T MAKE DAVE AND BUSTERS HIRE ME, BUT I CAN ABSOLUTELY MAKE DAVE AND BUSTERS WISH THEY HAD HIRED ME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS TONIGHT.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PROM KUMAR.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. HURLEY.

UH, MS. HURLEY FROM YOUR INTERNAL PRESENTATION, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS ANY OF THE INCENTIVES THAT DAVE AND BUSTERS WOULD GET IS FROM STATE OR FEDERAL AND NOT THE CITY, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

SO THIS INCENTIVE THAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR IS A REBATE OF THE STATE'S PORTION OF SALES AND USE TAX, UM, IN THE ORDINANCE.

IT DOES LIST POTENTIAL INCENTIVES THAT THE CITY OFFERS TO BUSINESSES, BUT THEY HAVE NOT REQUESTED THOSE FROM THE CITY.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL OR QUESTIONS? UH, SEEING NONE, I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION.

COU UH, MAYOR PRO TIM WALKER.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NINE AS STATED.

CAROL NEVILLES, PREM KUMAR, MATTHEW HILL.

DO I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER NEVILLES? ALL IN FAVOR WALKER.

[10. 2026-0328 Consider approval of a maximum proposed tax rate of $0.441166 for the 2026 tax year and to set the Public Hearings on the budget and proposed tax rate for the regularly scheduled City Council Meeting on September 8, 2026, at 7:30 p.m. Taxpayer Impact Statement: Fiscal Year (FY)- Median-Valued Tax Rate Per Estimated (Tax Year (TY)) Homestead $100 of Value Property Tax Bill FY 2025-2026 Adopted 2025 (TY 2025) $585,944 Tax Rate: $2,607.31 .444976 FY 2026-2027 2026 No New (TY 2026) $605,309 Revenue Tax Rate: $2,553.68 .421881 FY 2026-2027 Proposed 2026 tax (TY 2026) $605,309 rate based on the $2,670.42 proposed budget for FY 2026-27: .441166]

10 IS CONSIDER A MAXIMUM PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 0.4 4 1 1 6 6 FOR THE 2026.

YOU'RE LATE IN GETTING UP THERE.

SO I HAVE TO READ ALL THESE NUMBERS.

TAX YEAR AND TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE BUDGET AND PROPOSED TAX RATE FOR THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026 AT 7:30 PM UH, THE TAXPAYER IMPACT STATEMENT FROM MS. KIM 10.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

UM, THE, THE TAXPAYER IMPACT STATEMENT, UM, IS REQUIRED NOW UNDER THE LEGISLATION PASSED LAST YEAR.

UM, THIS, UH, STATEMENT SHOWS THAT THE, UM, MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME, UH, FOR THE 25 26 FISCAL YEAR VERSUS THE 26 27 FISCAL YEAR, IT WAS $585,944.

UH, THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INC, UH, HOUSE, UH, HOMESTEAD.

UM, TAXABLE VALUE OF A HOMESTEAD IS $605,309.

UH, THE TAX BILL FOR, UM, THIS HOME IN THE 25 26 FISCAL YEAR WAS $2,607 AND 31 CENTS.

AND, UM, UNDER THE PROPOSED OR THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT, IT WOULD BE 2000, UH, $670 AND 42 CENTS.

AND SO ION COUNSEL THANK YOU.

THIS AGENDA ITEM REQUEST COUNSEL'S CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF A MAXIMUM TAX RATE FOR THE 26 TAX YEAR, WHICH IS THE 26 27 FISCAL YEAR.

THE ITEM IS PROPOSING A MAXIMUM TAX RATE OF 0.44 CENTS.

THIS IS A RECORD VOTE, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS TAX CODE SECTION 26.06.

REGARDLESS OF THE TAX RATE BEING PROPOSED, THIS RECORD VOTE IS REQUIRED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING TO VOTE ON THE TAX RATE THAT IS PUB PUBLISHED IN OUR, UH, NEWSPAPER OF RECORD.

AND THAT PUBLICATION MUST OCCUR AT LEAST FIVE DAYS PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE.

THE NOTICES WILL BE PUBLISHED ON AUGUST 29TH IN THE RAMBLER, AND WE ALSO PUBLISH IT IN THE GAZETTE ON AUGUST 28TH.

THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, AND THE MEETING TO ADOPT BOTH THE BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE IS SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026.

THIS ITEM IS NOT A VOTE ON THE TAX RATE OR A VOTE TO ADOPT THE TAX RATE.

IT IS ONLY A VOTE TO PUBLICIZE THE TAX RATE WILL NOT EXCEED 0.44 CENTS.

AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS 10? COUNCIL MEMBER CARROLL, I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION.

THAT'S FINE.

I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 10.

DO I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HILL? I HAVE COMMENTS.

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UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEW.

UM, THE MAXIMUM PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 0.4 4 1 1 6 6 INCLUDES A 6.75 INCREASE IN THE NET OPERATING BUDGET.

WHILE THE NET REVENUES ARE PROJECTED TO INCREASE BY ONLY 4.01 COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS PHYSICAL YEAR, WE ARE A CITY THAT ENCOURAGES THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS OF OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR RESIDENTS.

MAY MEMBERSHIP FEES DUE TO THIS FACILITY.

UM, AT THE CORE LOCATION, MANY WORKING FAMILIES, PARENTS AND YOUNG PEOPLE RELY ON EVENING HOURS TO EXERCISE AND PARTICIPATE IN THE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF REDUCING THE CORE OPERATING HOURS FROM 10:00 PM TO 8:00 PM BEFORE REDUCING THE HOURS AND SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS.

I BELIEVE WE SHOULD LOOK CAREFULLY AT THE OVERALL 6.7 PIPE GROWTH IN THE OPERATING EXPENDITURES AND IDENTIFY THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE SAVINGS WITH EXPENDITURES GROWING FASTER THAN REVENUES, WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE ESSENTIAL SERVICES, COMMUNITY FACILITIES, AND RESPONSIBLE LONG-TERM SPENDING.

THIS MAXIMUM PROPOSAL IS FOR THE DRAFT BUDGET THAT WE, THE STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE COMMENTS WILL BE APPROPRIATE ON THE SEPTEMBER THE EIGHTH MEETING? YEAH.

NUMBER 11 IS CONSIDER APPROVING AUTHORIZATION TO SUBMIT PROPOSED LEGISLATION TO THE 90TH TEXAS STATE REGULAR LEGISLATIVE SESSION FOR CREATION OF A SPECIAL DISTRICT FOR A PORTION OF THE OLD TOWN DISTRICT IN ADJACENT COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONED AREAS FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, MAY I HAVE THAT MOTION AGAIN? COUNCIL MEMBER CARROLL? OF COURSE, YOU MAY I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 10.

ALL RIGHT, AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HILL.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? WALKER CARROLL, NEVILLES PREM KUMAR HILL.

[11. 2026-0352 Consider approving authorization to submit proposed Legislation to the 90th Texas State Regular Legislative Session for Creation of a Special District for a portion of Old Town District and adjacent Commercial and Industrial zoned areas for Entertainment and Economic Development; providing for creation of the District, providing for the creation of a Board of Directors and Governance; providing for Powers and Duties; providing for Annexation or Disannexation to the District; providing for No Additional Taxes or Assessments; providing for Dissolution; Authorizing City Manager or designee to coordinate with City’s Legislative Representation in the Texas House and Senate to assist and support the passage and adoption.]

PROVIDING FOR THE CREATION OF THE DISTRICT, PROVIDING FOR THE CREATION OF A BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND GOVERNANCE, PROVIDING FOR POWERS AND DUTIES, PROVIDING FOR ANNEXATION OR DI DIS ANNEXATION TO THE DISTRICT, PROVIDING FOR NO ADDITIONAL TAXES OR ASSESSMENTS PROVIDING FOR DISSOLUTION, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGN, NEED TO COORDINATE WITH THE CITY'S LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVE IN THE TEXAS HOUSE AND SENATE TO ASSIST AND SUPPORT THE PASSAGE AND ADOPTION.

MS. WILLIS, YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT I JUST READ? YES, I WILL.

SO, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

TONIGHT I'M BRINGING BACK THE PROPOSED SPECIAL DISTRICT LEGISLATION FOR OLD TOWN.

THIS IS THE NEXT DECISION POINT AND A PROCESS WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH TOGETHER SINCE FEBRUARY.

TONIGHT'S ACTION IS TO CONSIDER AUTHORIZING SUBMISSION OF PROPOSED LEGISLATION FOR THE CONSIDERATION DURING THE 90TH TEXAS LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT WILL BEGIN IN JANUARY.

BEFORE I GET TO THAT ACTION, I WANT TO BRIEFLY BRING TOGETHER WHERE WE HAVE BEEN, WHAT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION HAS PRODUCED, AND HOW THAT DIRECTION IS REFLECTED IN THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION.

SLATE SHOULD OLD TOWN IS ALREADY A BELOVED SOURCE OF ENTERTAINMENT AND COMMUNITY WITHIN THE CITY OF COPPEL.

IT IS WHERE WE HOST MANY OF OUR SPECIAL EVENTS.

IT'S HOME TO THE FARMER'S MARKET, THE ART CENTER, AND THE SENIOR AND COMMUNITY CENTER.

WE HAVE LOCAL RESTAURANTS AND SMALL BUSINESSES.

WE HAVE OUR ONLY INTERACTIVE FOUNTAIN, A PLAYGROUND AND A PUBLIC GATHERING SPACE.

WE'RE NOT STARTING WITH A PLACE THAT NEEDS TO BE CREATED.

OLD TOWN ALREADY HAS AN IDENTITY AND OUR COMMUNITY ALREADY USES AND ENJOYS IT.

AT THE SAME TIME, BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL HAVE RECOGNIZED THE OPPORTUNITY AND EXPRESSED THE DESIRE FOR OLD TOWN TO CONTINUE GROWING AND EVOLVING.

WE HAVE HEARD THAT CONSISTENTLY THROUGH COMMUNITY INPUT OVER SEVERAL YEARS.

THE SPECIAL DISTRICT LEGISLATION IS A TOOL THAT COULD HELP OLD TOWN ENTER THE NEXT PHASE OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.

WHILE RESPONDING TO THE COMMUNITY INPUT WE HAVE RECEIVED ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THIS AREA, IT CREATES A GEOGRAPHICALLY FOCUSED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL INTENDED TO SUPPORT ENTERTAINMENT OPPORTUNITIES, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, AND CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN OLD TOWN.

THE LEGISLATION BEFORE YOU ESTABLISHES THE OVERALL FRAMEWORK NECESSARY FOR CREATION AND OPERATION OF THE DISTRICT, IT ESTABLISHES THE DISTRICT'S PURPOSE BOARD AND GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE, POWER AND DUTIES, AND THE TYPES OF ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS THE DISTRICT COULD SUPPORT.

IT INCLUDES A GE GEOGRAPHICALLY LIMITED ALCOHOL BEVERAGE AUTHORITY COUNCIL

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PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, AS WELL AS PROVISIONS RELATED TO ANNEXATION AND DE ANNEXATION OF PROPERTY WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

THE LEGISLATION ALSO PROVIDES FOR NO ADDITIONAL TAXES OR ASSESSMENTS AND ESTABLISHES A MECHANISM FOR DISSOLUTION.

BUT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION IS THE AMOUNT OF LOCAL AUTHORITY THAT REMAINS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE INTENT OF THE FRAMEWORK IS NOT TO SIMPLY ESTABLISH A DISTRICT, IT IS TO CREATE THE AUTHORITY FOR THE DISTRICT WHILE PRESERVING LOCAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY FOR THIS COUNCIL AND FUTURE COUNCILS.

THAT OVERSIGHT IS BUILT THROUGHOUT THE LEGISLATION.

COUNCIL RETAINS SIGNIFICANT AUTHORITY THROUGHOUT THE PROPOSED DISTRICT FRAMEWORK CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERSIGHT WE'VE DISCUSSED THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.

COUNCIL REMAINS INVOLVED IN BOARD APPOINTMENTS AND GOVERNANCE AND RETAINS FINAL APPROVAL OVER DISTRICT PROJECTS AND EXPENDITURES, INCLUDING HOW THEY'RE PLANNED, FUNDED, AND CARRIED OUT.

COUNCIL ALSO RETAINS A FINAL APPROVAL OVER ANNEXATION AND DE ANNEXATION OF PROPERTY AND AUTHORITY RELATED TO THE DISSOLUTION OF THE DISTRICT.

THAT LOCAL AUTHORITY EXTENDS TO FUTURE CITY COUNCILS AS WELL.

THE FRAMEWORK ALLOWS THE DISTRICT TO EVOLVE OVER TIME THROUGH COUNCIL ACTION RATHER THAN REQUIRING THE CITY TO RETURN TO THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE AS NEEDS CHANGE.

AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED, THE ABILITY FOR COUNCIL TO MODIFY THE PERMANENT BOARD STRUCTURE AND TO APPROVE THE FUTURE ANNEXATION AND DIS ANNEXATION OF PROPERTY.

ULTIMATELY, THE FRAMEWORKS GIVES THE DISTRICT THE TOOLS TO ACCOMPLISH ITS PURPOSE WHILE PRESERVING CITY COUNCIL AUTHORITY OVER THE SIGNIFICANT DECISIONS ABOUT HOW THOSE TOOLS ARE USED.

COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED DIRECTION REGARDING THE IDENTITY OF THE DISTRICT.

THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION ESTABLISHES THE OLD TOWN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

THE NAME TIES THE DISTRICT DIRECTLY TO OLD TOWN AND REFLECTS THE PURPOSE ESTABLISHED IN THE LEGISLATION.

THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION IDENTIFIES ITS PRIMARY PURPOSE IS ENTERTAINMENT AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THE BENEFIT OF RESIDENTS.

AS THE LEGISLATION WAS DEVELOPED FROM COUNCIL'S FRAMEWORK DIRECTION, THERE ARE TWO AREAS WHERE WHAT YOU SEE TONIGHT DIFFERS SOMEWHAT FROM WHAT COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED, THE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARY AND THE INITIAL BOARD COMPOSITION.

I'LL START WITH THE BOUNDARY.

THE PROPOSED LEGISLATIVE BOUNDARY IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE GEOGRAPHICAL DIRECTION COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

THE YELLOW BOUNDARY REFLECTS COUNCIL'S INITIAL DIRECTION AND THE RED BOUNDARY REFLECTS WHAT IS PROPOSED IN THE LEGISLATION.

DURING LEGISLATIVE DRAFTING, THE BOUNDARY HAD TO BE ESTABLISHED USING EXACT EXISTING PLATTING PROPERTY BOUNDARIES IN THREE LOCATIONS.

CITY'S INITIAL BOUNDARY INCLUDED ONLY PART OF AN EXISTING PLAT BECAUSE THOSE PLATS COULD NOT BE DIVIDED FOR PURPOSES OF ESTABLISHING THE LEGISLATIVE BOUNDARY.

THE ENTIRETY OF THESE PROPERTIES IS INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED MAP.

TWO OF THESE AREAS, WHICH ARE THE TWO ON MY LEFT, INCLUDE ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE PROPERTY ALREADY CONTEMPLATED FOR THE INCLUSION IN THE DISTRICT.

THE THIRD IS THE PLAT CONTAINING THE SENIOR AND COMMUNITY CENTER.

BECAUSE THAT PLAT CANNOT BE DIVIDED FOR PURPOSES OF THE DISTRICT BOUNDARY, THE ENTIRE SENIOR CENTER PROPERTY IS INCLUDED.

I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT INCLUSION IN THE DISTRICT DOES NOT CHANGE THE SENIOR CENTER'S EXISTING USE OWNERSHIP, ZONING OR OPERATION.

ANY FUTURE CHANGE TO THAT PROPERTY WOULD REMAIN SUBJECT TO COUNCIL DIRECTION.

AND THE NORMAL PROCESSES, INCLUDING THE SENIOR CENTER WITHIN THE DISTRICT, COULD PROVIDE ANOTHER MECHANISM FOR INVESTING IN THE FACILITY AND POTENTIALLY OFFSET ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES THAT OTHERWISE WOULD BE SUPPORTED BY THE GENERAL FUND.

THE LEGISLATION IS PRESENTED TONIGHT ALSO ALLOWS THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES TO GROW AND CHANGE WITH THE COMMUNITY OVER TIME.

IT PROVIDES MECHANISMS FOR ANNEXATION AND DE ANNEXATION.

AND A PROPOSED BOUNDARY CHANGE WOULD FIRST REQUIRE DISTRICT BOARD ACTION AND THEN FINAL APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL.

THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION ESTABLISHES BOTH THE TEMPORARY BOARD AND INITIAL PERMANENT BOARD STRUCTURE DURING THE INITIAL FORMATION.

THE TEMPORARY BOARD CONSISTS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

ITS ROLE IS TO SERVE DURING FORMATION AND ESTABLISH THE PROCESS FOR SELECTION AND APPOINTMENT OF THE PERMANENT DIRECTORS.

THE PROPOSED INITIAL BOARD HAS SEVEN DIRECTORS SERVING TWO YEAR TERMS, FIVE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT, AND ONE BUSINESS PROPERTY OWNER.

THE INCLUSION OF RESIDENTIAL REPRESENTATIVE AND A BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVE FROM OLD TOWN WAS PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE STRATEGY RECOMMENDED BY OUR LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANTS PROVIDING STAKEHOLDER REPRESENTATION FROM WITHIN THE DISTRICT WHILE MAINTAINING CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATION ON THE BOARD.

IMPORTANTLY, THIS IS JUST THE INITIAL PERMANENT BOARD STRUCTURE.

THE LEGISLATION PROVIDES A MECHANISM FOR THAT STRUCTURE TO BE CHANGED IN THE FUTURE THROUGH CITY COUNCIL ACTION.

THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION ALSO INCLUDES THE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE AUTHORITY COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED.

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THE AUTHORITY ADDRESSES A SALE CONSUMPTION AND DISTRIBUTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AND IS GEOGRAPHICALLY LIMITED TO THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.

BUSINESSES REMAIN SUBJECT TO APPLICABLE TEXAS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE COMMISSION LICENSING REQUIREMENTS.

THIS BRINGS US BACK TO THE THREE PHASE APPROACH THAT COUNCIL WAS SHOWN.

THE SPECIAL DISTRICT TOOL WAS FIRST INTRODUCED.

CURRENTLY WE ARE IN PHASE ONE, WHICH IS ESTABLISHING THE FRAMEWORK.

THE ACTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WOULD COMPLETE THE FRAMEWORK AND MOVE US INTO PHASE TWO OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

UM, THIS INCLUDES ALL THINGS THAT COME WITH THE LEGISLATION.

SO BILL FILING TESTIMONY, EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN AUSTIN LEGISLATIVE AUTHORIZATION IS NOT GUARANTEED.

AND A DECISION TONIGHT ALSO DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN IF IT IS ULTIMATELY APPROVED, APPROVED BY THE LEGISLATURE.

THEN PHASE THREE, WE BEGIN, AND THAT IS AFTER THE SESSION AND WHEN THE IMPLEMENTATION WOULD BEGIN.

THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL BUDGET IMPACT ANTICIPATED FROM TONIGHT'S ACTION.

THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR BUDGET INCLUDES $10,000 FOR LEGISLATIVE TRAVEL CONSISTENT WITH PREVIOUS YEARS.

PREVIOUS YEARS, WHICH IS ANTICIPATED TO ACCOMMODATE TRAVEL ASSOCIATED WITH TESTIMONY AND LEGISLATIVE ADVOCACY.

FUEL TOWN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT WOULD GIVE THE CITY ANOTHER TOOL TO SUPPORT THE CONTINUED GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF AN AREA OUR COMMUNITY ALREADY VALUES.

AT THE SAME TIME, THEIR PROPOSED LEGISLATION PRESERVES CITY COUNCIL AUTHORITY AND OVERSIGHT.

TONIGHT'S ACTION IS THE NEXT STEP, BUT NOT THE FINAL STEP.

IT AUTHORIZES US TO TAKE THEIR FRAMEWORK COUNCIL HAS DEVELOPED TO THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND ADVOCATE FOR THE AUTHORITY TO CREATE THIS TOOL FOR PEL.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUE UH, MAYOR PRO TIM? THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, SO I WAS CURIOUS WITH RESPECT TO THE ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION AND SALES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED WITHIN THE DISTRICT, WHAT IS PROPOSED WITH RESPECT TO THE DRAFTING OF THE LEGISLATION REGARDING THAT SPECIFIC DO YOU WANNA HAVE AT IT? WE'LL ASK THE AUTHOR HERE.

THERE YOU GO.

UM, WHAT WE'VE ANTICIPATED IS THE CITY WOULD BE ABLE TO PASS AN ORDINANCE, UH, THAT WOULD ALLOW SAY A BREWERY, A BREW PUB, A MICRO, UM, DISTILLERY.

RIGHT NOW WE WOULD'VE TO HAVE AN ELECTION TO HOLD THAT, UH, UNDER THIS, UM, LEGISLATION THAT I'VE PROPOSED THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD BY ORDINANCE ALLOW THOSE USES WITHIN THE DISTRICT AND THEN WHOEVER THE OWNER OR TENANT THAT WOULD OCCUPY A PLACE IN THE DISTRICT ITSELF WOULD HAVE TO GET THE RIGHT INCORRECT LICENSE FROM THE STATE IN OTHERWISE QUALIFY.

SO IT WOULD GIVE US BASICALLY LOCAL LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY TO ALLOW THOSE USES.

THERE HAD BEEN SOME PRIOR DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, THE ABILITY TO CARRY AN OPEN CONTAINER WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

IS THAT GOING TO BE ALLOWED BY THE LEGISLATION AS PROPOSED? IT WOULD ALLOW YOU AS THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION AND CHOICE AND RESTRICTION.

AND THAT, THANKS BOB.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET DOWN TO.

SO WITH RESPECT TO THE, THE ACTUAL LEGISLATION THAT WE INTEND TO PROPOSE BE PASSED, HOW, HOW BROAD IS THE GRANT OF, OR THE ALLOWANCE FOR ALCOHOL SALES? WHAT TYPE OF ALCOHOL SALES, UM, HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE WRITTEN? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE DEVIL'S ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS WHEN IT COMES TO, TO WRITING THE LAW.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE WOULD'VE THE SALE DISTRIBUTION, UH, UH, OF WOULD BE THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT'S ALLOWED TO HAVE ALCOHOL WOULD BE A LOCAL DECISION.

IT'S DISTRIBUTION INTO THE CITY WOULD BE A LOCAL DECISION.

AND THEN THE ACTUAL CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL, IF IT WAS OUTSIDE THE BUSINESS, OPEN, OPEN CARRY, IT SOUNDS BAD, OPEN CONTAINER, OPEN CONTAINER, UH, ISSUES WOULD ALL BE LOCALLY CONTROLLED, BUT THE LICENSING WOULD REMAIN IN AUSTIN AS FAR AS THE THINGS YOU NEED TO DO TO GET THE LICENSE.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TRY TO DRAFT THE LEGISLATION AS IF WE HAD AN ELECTION TO ALLOW A BREW PUB OR A MICRO DISTILLERY, WHICH RIGHT NOW ARE NOT PERMITTED, BUT WOULD.

BUT WOULD IF THIS, IF, IF THE LAWS PASSED IS WORDED, WOULD WE HAVE, WOULD, WOULD WE ALREADY HAVE ALLOWED A WINE BAR OR A BREW PUB OR A MICRO DISTILLERY OR WOULD THAT STILL HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL? IT STILL HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL.

ALCOHOL, THAT, THAT WOULD ENABLE ANY KIND OF LIKE A FULL BAR THAT'S LESS THAN A NOT WITHOUT YOUR LEGISLATIVE APPROVAL.

SO, AND, AND THERE'S NO CONCERN THAT BY HAVING A BROADER SWATH THAT REFERENCES JUST THE, THE SALE AND DISTRIBUTION AND SERVICE OF

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SO WE WOULD HAVE TO MEET AND THEN WOULD WE BE AMENDING, WOULD, WOULD WE BE ACTING ENACTING AN ORDINANCE WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THIS LAW OR WOULD WE BE AMENDING THE LAW? WE WOULD BE ACTUALLY, UH, WE'D HAVE OUR OWN LITTLE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CODE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN FOR THE DISTRICT, FOR THE DISTRICT TO ALLOW A BREWERY TO ALLOW, UH, A MICRO DISTILLERY, A WINE BAR OR A BEER GARDEN.

I HAVE SOME COMMENTS, BUT I CAN WAIT UNTIL THAT OTHERS HAVE ASKED THEIR QUESTION.

COUNCIL PRIM.

COUNCIL MEMBER PRIM KUMAR.

UH, KELLY, UH, EARLIER YOU MENTIONED, UH, THIS $10,000, UH, TNI BUDGET, THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD, WE WOULD'VE SPENT FOR ANY LEGISLATIVE YEAR BECAUSE, UH, STAFF AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, WE REGULARLY GO TO AUSTIN TO, TO LOBBY FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT.

THAT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE THIS WITHIN THAT $10,000 BUDGET.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CALLIE? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MATTHEW.

DO WE HAVE A SPONSOR FOR THIS LEGISLATION? SO THE NEXT STEPS AFTER TONIGHT WOULD BE TO SEND THIS TO OUR LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANTS AND THEY ARE WORKING WITH OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATORS, OUR SENATOR SINGULAR.

UM, CURRENTLY OUR REPRESENTATIVE IS UP FOR ELECTION THIS YEAR.

SO WHILE IT IS CASSANDRA GARCIA HERNANDEZ RIGHT NOW, THAT POTENTIALLY COULD CHANGE, UM, BUT SHE IS STILL WORKING WITH THAT OFFICE AND AS WELL AS SENATOR PARKER.

SO THEY WOULD BE OUR SPONSORS.

YOU MENTIONED WE HAVE A CONSULTANT, SO THAT WOULD BE A FEE FOR THE CONSULTANT.

SO YES, WE DO HAVE TWO LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANTS THAT WE HAVE USED, UM, FREQUENTLY.

SO WE USE THEM BEFORE THIS AND WE USE THEM FOR ALL OF OUR LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS AT THE STATE.

THANK YOU COUNCILMAN PRIM.

KAMAR.

UH, JUST AS A FOLLOW UP TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, MATTHEW SAID, THESE CONSULTANTS, UH, ARE COVERED UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF ALL THE OTHER INITIATIVES THAT, THAT WE USE.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE ARE GOING TO PAY THEM INCREMENTAL FOR THIS PARTICULAR DECISION.

THIS IS INCLUDED.

UM, YOU MET ONE A COUPLE COUNCIL MINUTES AGO, JENNIFER.

YEP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER NEVILLES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I MOVE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 11 AS PRESENTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? COUNCIL MEMBER, HENA HOST SMITH.

IS IT ANY DISCUSSION? I I JUST HAD SOME COMMENTS IF I COULD.

MAYOR PROTO.

BE VOTING FOR IT TONIGHT, BUT I, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF, YOU KNOW, PURE BAR DOWN THERE OR OPEN CARRY OF LIQUOR DOWN THERE OR ANYTHING THAT OUR COMMUNITY AS IT EXISTS AT THE TIME THAT DECISION IS MADE, WHETHER IT'S NEXT YEAR OR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, UM, FEELS, IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH A FAMILY FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I JUST, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS TO THE EXTENT THAT IT PROVIDES EITHER THIS COUNCIL OR FUTURE COUNCIL'S FLEXIBILITY TO RESPOND TO THE MARKET AND TO ENHANCE AS BEST WE CAN, UM, THE OFFERINGS IN OLD TOWN.

UM, BUT WHEN I RECEIVED THE POLL, UM, HAVING NOT LOOKED AT IT FOR, FOR SOME TIME, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DRILL DOWN INTO IT, I MEAN, THERE IS CERTAINLY A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF BEER AND WINE SERVICE IN OLD TOWN.

UM, BUT THERE ALSO IS PRETTY MUCH A NEAR, UH, A NEAR MAJORITY, UM, OF PEOPLE THAT WANT A FAMILY FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT.

AND I THINK SINCE THE POLLS CONDUCTED, MY IMPRESSION TOTALLY UNDOCUMENTED IS THAT MORE FAMILIES NOW RESIDE IN OLD TOWN THAN DID AT THE TIME THE POLL WAS CONDUCTED.

SO I WANNA BE VERY CAREFUL THAT WE PRESERVE A FAMILY FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT IN OLD TOWN, UM, AND THAT THIS NOT LEAD TO THE OPEN CARRY OF BEVERAGES, UM, OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD LEAD SOMEONE TO CONCLUDE MAYBE THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE THEIR KIDS OUT, UH, IN THAT ENVIRONMENT.

AND, AND I ALSO JUST ANOTHER POINT IN LOOKING AT THE POLL, THERE WERE, THERE WAS A PRETTY STRONG MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T WANT ACTIVITY AFTER NINE O'CLOCK.

NOW, THERE WERE SOME THAT DID, BUT I, IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WERE PROBABLY MORE THAT DID NOT.

AND VIRGINIA LOST.

LARSON WROTE IN NOT TOO LONG AGO, REALLY COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PROSPECT THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN.

SO, UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS TO THE EXTENT THAT IT, IT CREATES THE FOUNDATION THAT THIS COUNCIL OR FUTURE COUNCILS CAN BUILD UPON TO ENHANCE THE OFFERINGS IN OLD TOWN.

UM, AND, UH, AND WE'LL

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ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? WALKER, HINOJOSA SMITH, CAROL NEVILLES, PREM KUMAR, MATTHEW HILL.

NONE OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

IS THE CITY MANAGER REPORTS WITH PROJECT UPDATES, FUTURE AGENDAS AND DIRECTION FROM WORK SESSION.

THAT WAS, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK ON THIS, .

I, YES, AND THERE IS MORE TO COME, SO STAY TUNED.

THANK.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER 12

[12. City Manager Reports, Project Updates, Future Agendas, and Direction from Work Session ]

MR. LAN, UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JUST A FEW UPDATES, BULLOCK AND HOW THE WORK IS COMPLETE.

THE PROJECT IS BEING CLOSED OUT STILL SOME SMALL THINGS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

ROA LANE RECONSTRUCTION, STORM DRAIN HAS, UH, BEEN INSTALLED AND THE CONTRACTOR IS STARTING TO WORK ON THE SUBGRADE PREPARATIONS.

THE JUSTICE CENTER REMODEL.

THE CONTRACTOR IS WORKING ON PUNCH LIST ITEMS FOR THE INTERIOR REMODEL AND IS WORKING ON FINISHING THE ADDITION.

FIRE STATION THREE.

THE SLAB HAS BEEN POURED AND WORK ON THE STORM SHELTER AND ERECTING STEEL IS COMING UP.

ARBOR BOOK, BROOK CHA, ARBOR ARBOR, I CAN'T TALK.

ARBOR BROOK CHANNEL.

THE SANITARY SEWER LINE IS COMPLETE AND THE CONTRACTOR IS INSTALLING THE STORM DRAIN AND HUNTER WOOD PARK BANK STABILIZATION.

THE CONTRACTOR IS BEGINNING THE GAVION BASKET INSTALLATION THIS WEEK.

MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL REPORTS ON RECENT AND UPCOMING EVENTS, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPLICATIONS ARE CURRENTLY OPEN AND WILL BE ACCEPTED THROUGH THE FOURTH, UH, 4:00 PM ON FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2026.

ITEM NUMBER 13 OF

[13. Mayor and Council Reports on Recent and Upcoming Events.]

I ENCOURAGE ALL OF CITIZENS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN SERVING THE COP COMMUNITIES.

TO SUBMIT YOUR APPLICATION SOON.

FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE VISIT COPPEL DOT UH GOV SLASH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

THE NORTH TEXAS COMMISSION WILL BE HOLDING AN INFRASTRUCTURE SUMMIT AT THE END OF AUGUST, BRINGING TOGETHER REGIONAL LEADERS FOR TIMELY AND FORWARD-LOOKING DISCUSSIONS ON INFRASTRUCTURE PRIORITIES SHAPING THE FUTURE OF NORTH TEXAS.

I AND SEVERAL OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COUNCIL LOOK FORWARD TO ENCOURAGING THESE IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS TO REPRESENT COPPELS NEEDS AND GAIN VALUABLE INSIGHTS THAT WILL HELP INFORM OUR COMMUNITY, UH, OUR, OUR COMMUNITY'S CONTINUED GROWTH.

UH, LASTLY, THE TM, UH, TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE WILL BE HOLDING THEIR ANNUAL BUSINESS MEETING AT THE COPPEL ARTS CENTER ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, BEGINNING AT 6:00 PM THE FEATURED SPEAKER WILL BE CHRIS MCLAUGHLIN, CEO, OF THE DFW AIRPORT.

THE EVENING WILL BE THEMED WITH A, UH, VERY DEFINITE AIRPORT, UH, AR UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT.

IT'S GONNA MOTIF, IT'S GONNA MO NO, IT'S MORE THAN A MOTIF.

IT'S GONNA BE A THANK YOU.

IT'S GONNA BE A, UH, AIRCRAFT OR, OR AEROSPACE ATMOSPHERE.

UM, THE TML, THIS IS TML REGION 13, WHICH COMP ENCOMPASSES NINE COUNTIES FROM NORTH TEXAS, INCLUDING OVER 130 CITIES.

UH, SO PLEASE, UH, CHECK OUT THE, THE, UH, EMAIL THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED FROM TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE AND MAKE YOUR RESERVATION SOON.

WHO'S THE DIRECTOR OF THAT, OF THAT REGION? MAYOR? UH, UH, THE, THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR REGION 13.

[14. Council Committee Reports concerning items of community involvement with no Council action or deliberation permitted.]

14, COUNCIL COMMITTEE REPORTS CONCERNING ADAMS OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WITH NO COUNCIL ACTION OR DELIBERATION.

WE HAVE A REPORT FROM THE DALLAS REGIONAL MOBILITY COALITION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER DON CARROLL.