* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] GOOD EVENING. [1. Call To Order] THIS IS THE SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2026 MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THE TIME IS SIX O'CLOCK. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS, ITEM ONE IS, UH, TO, UM, I'M SORRY. ITEM TWO IS TO CONVENE INTO WORK SESSION WHERE [2. Work Session (Open to the Public) a. Discussion of agenda items.] WE WILL REVIEW THE CASES. UH, WE WILL THEN, UH, RECONVENE INTO GENERAL SESSION AT SIX 30. SO WITH THAT, I'LL, I'LL CONVENE INTO OUR WORK SESSION, WORK SESSION. WE'LL START WITH THE ROLL CALL THIS EVENING. UM, I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMISSION, UH, EDMUND HAAS. OKAY. COMMISSION MEMBERS, VICE CHAIR SUE BLANKENSHIP. PRESENT. SAMIT PATEL. HERE. KENT HAMAN. HERE. ED MOORE. PRESENT. CINDY BISHOP HERE. OH, HI ALL. HI, CINDY AND JOHN, JOB MEYER PRESENT. AND MARY, WOULD YOU INTRODUCE STAFF? SURE. AND THEN REVIEW THE CASES. ALL RIGHT. SO, MYSELF, MARY, PRO BASWELL, MR. MATT STEER, UH, NO, THEY'RE NOT HERE. MR. BOB HAGER AND MS. KIM MCGEE. SO ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING, UH, YOUR FIRST, FIRST CASE IS A PLAT, THE OAM EDITION. UM, SO ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS ON HOWELL STREET. ORIGINALLY, THIS WAS PLATTED BACK IN THE, LIKE 1961 OR SO. UM, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, MANY OF THOSE LOTS ON THAT STREET AND THE ADJACENT STREET SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN SUBDIVIDED BY MEETS AND BOUNDS, AND NOT BY REPL . SO THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS WHEN YOU LOOK ON THE RECORDS, SAYS IT'S PART OF LOT 13 AND PART OF LOT 14. SO THE HOUSE HAS BEEN TORN DOWN. THAT WAS ON THERE, AND HE'S JUST SIMPLY RE PLATTING IT TO CREATE A LEGAL LOT SO THEY CAN BUILD A NEW HOUSE. PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. UM, ANY QUESTIONS? DID OUR ATTORNEY REVIEW IT? ? HE'S GOOD. NOW. I DID NOT GO OUT AND TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS. IS, IS THIS, IS THIS THE TYPE OF ITEM THAT WE, WE WOULD'VE SOLICIT COMMENTS AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON? NO. RIGHT. I DON'T, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY OTHER DEDICATIONS OR ANYTHING TO TRIGGER THOSE, UH, REQUIREMENTS. AND AS PART, AND TODAY, WE'RE NOT HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. NO. IT'S JUST A REFL, NOT A REZONE. YEAH. CORRECT. CORRECT. YEAH. SO, SO SATELLITE SHOWS THAT THERE'S A HOUSE THERE AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE THE LOT ONCE THE DATA IS GONE. OH, IT'S BEEN RECENTLY TORN DOWN. I BELIEVE SO, YEAH. YOU DIDN'T DRIVE OUT? NO, I DID NOT DRIVE OUT THERE. I NEVER KNEW THAT. WHAT? NO. SO, SO IF IT DOES GET APPROVED TONIGHT, THEN WE ARE GONNA MAIL I DID NOT DRIVE. UH, JUST THE NOTICE THAT IT'S BEEN APPROVED TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WITHIN 200 FEET. IT'S A BASICALLY A NEW REQUIREMENT BY THE STATE THAT, THAT REQUIRES THAT. SO, OKAY. UM, THEN THE NEXT CASE IS THE, UH, TEXT EXCHANGE AMENDMENTS. BASICALLY IT'S TWO, TWO SEPARATE TEXT CHANGE AMENDMENTS. ALTHOUGH WE DO SAY THERE'S SEVEN JUST 'CAUSE TECHNICALLY THERE'S SEVEN. THE FIRST RELATES TO CONCRETE BATCHING PLANT TEMPORARY. AND SO WE PUT THAT IN AS A USE. THAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT. BECAUSE IT WAS REFERENCED, UH, THAT WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S GREATER THAN SIX MONTHS, IT REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE. SO WE FORMALLY PUT THAT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT A TEMPORARY ONE LESS THAN SIX MONTHS IS ALLOWED BY. RIGHT. AND THEN WE SET UP, UH, PARAMETERS FOR HOW MANY CONSECUTIVE TEMPORARY BATCH PLANTS YOU CAN HAVE. SO BASICALLY WE SAID THE, THE SIX MONTH TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT STARTS AT THE FIRST DAY OF PERMIT. THEN YOU CAN HAVE ONE FOR SIX MONTHS, AND THEN 180 DAYS FROM THAT TIME OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THAT PERMIT, YOU CAN HAVE ENOUGH ONE. SO ESSENTIALLY YOU WE'RE GONNA ALLOW MAYBE THREE OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD ON A PARTICULAR PIECE OF, YOU JUST CAN'T GO BACK TO BACK TO BACK. RIGHT. IT'S A CIRCUIT THAT, SO THEY HAVE TO TAKE IT DOWN TO PUT IT BACK. THEY HAVE TO CLEAR OUT THE CLEAR OUT THE LOT, CLEAR OUT THE LOT TO PREEXISTING CONDITIONS, AND THEN, UH, 90 DAYS LATER THEY COULD REAPPLY FOR ANOTHER ONE. AND WE DID THAT SO THAT THERE'S SEPARATION SO THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE WHAT I'D CALL A CREEPING USE ON THAT PROPERTY. AND THEN IT MATURATES INTO OKAY. A PERMANENT ONE. RIGHT. WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE DO HAVE A PROVISION THAT ALLOWS FOR THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO EXTEND IT. IF SAY THEY HAVE JUSTIFICATION FOR MAYBE A PROJECT THAT MIGHT, THEY MIGHT NEED A WEEK [00:05:01] OR TWO MORE. SO IT GIVES HER THE, I ONLY NEED 10 MORE DAYS, OTHERWISE I'M GONNA GIVE YOU ANOTHER, ANOTHER ID. YEAH. AND IT'S KIND OF PROJECT SPECIFIC IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. OKAY. WHERE YOU'VE GOT A BADGE PLANT BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING A ROAD. THE ONE, IF YOU RECALL, THE ONE THAT WAS BEFORE US, UH, BACK IN TWO MONTHS AGO, JULY. YEAH. JULY. THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID, WELL, WE REALLY, WE REALLY NEED THIS BECAUSE WE'RE DOING WORK ON I 35 FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT, ON THAT PROJECT. SO IF IT'S PROJECTS SPECIFIC IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, TYPE OF T UH, TRUE TEMPORARY USE. OKAY. SO THIS, SO THAT'S THE FIRST PART. AND, AND THEN BY THE WAY, WE EXEMPTED THE CITY FROM OUR REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY EXEMPT. BUT WE PUT THAT IN THERE JUST, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION'S SAKE. SO IF SOMEONE SAYS, HEY, THERE'S ONE OVER HERE, RIGHT? WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE WE DO, WE DO HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW. WHERE DO WE HAVE IT? UH, ON NORTH POINT? WE'RE DOING IT FOR ROYAL LANE, UH, RECONSTRUCTION, SO, OH, YEAH. YEAH. SO THE NEXT SECTION, OR THE NEXT PART OF THE CODE AMENDMENTS RELATE TO, UH, TECHNOLOGY, EQUIPMENT FACILITY, BATCH PLANT AND CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITIES. SO WE LOOKED AT OUR DEFINITION OF TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FACILITY, AND IT'S NOT REALLY UP TO TODAY'S STANDARD FOR WHAT WOULD COVER A BATCH PLANT. SO DATA CENTER CENTER, YOU SAID BATCH? YEAH, I MEANT DATA CENTER. IS THAT THE SAME THING? YEAH, I MEANT DATA CENTER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THEY'RE INTERCHANGEABLE. . SO, SO YEAH, I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER, SO THAT IT'S GETTING CONFLICTING IN MY MIND. BUT ANYWAY, SO, UH, WE'RE DELETING TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FACILITY AND WE'RE ADDING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, RE REQUEST FOR DATA CENTER AND FOR CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY. HAVE WE HAD ANY INQUIRIES TO DATE ON CRYPTOCURRENCY OR DATA CENTER? UH, NO. NOTHING. WHAT? YEAH, WHAT LED TO THIS WAS THE OLD IBM CALL CENTER MM-HMM . IT'S BACK ON THE MARKET. AND THEY WERE MARKETING AS THE DATA CENTER NEWS. AND SO THAT GOT OUR ATTENTION THAT MAYBE THERE WAS, WELL, WE, WE, WE HAD ALREADY INITIATED THE DISCUSSIONS BEFORE THAT. SO WE DISCOVERED THAT AMIDST WHEN WE WERE IN THE PROCESS. UM, SO ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVEN'T HAD ANYONE COME IN AND SAY THEY WANTED TO DO A, A, UH, BATCH PLAN, OR NOT A BATCH PLAN, A DATA CENTER, , UH, YOU KNOW, OR SUBMIT PLANS FOR ONE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. ARE WE PRO DATA CENTERS OR ARE WE ANTI-D DATA CENTERS? OR ARE WE NEUTRAL DATA CENTERS? UH, THIS IS . WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY NEUTRAL. I, ANTI COMMUNITY IMPACT, I THINK. YEAH. UM, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT A VERY GOOD CANDIDATE FOR THESE. NO. I REPRESENT RED OAK AND WE HAVE A LOT OF DATA CENTERS MM-HMM . AND I'VE LEARNED MORE ABOUT THEM THAN I WANTED TO KNOW, BUT IT, IT IS, IT IS IMPORTANT. THEY LIKE A LOT OF SECURITY. MM-HMM . THEY LIKE THEIR FACILITY, SO YOU CANNOT REALLY SEE IT FROM THE ROAD FOR SECURITY REASONS. AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF PROPERTY AND SIZE. THEY'RE HUGE. UH, MILLIONS OF SQUARE FEET OF SPACE TEAR DOWN CAMPUS, MALL, AND YEAH. AND THAT'S IN LOUISVILLE. YEAH. SO, UH, YOU CAN SNEAK THEM IN, IN A LOT OF PLACES THOUGH, BUILDING. AND THEY MAY, THEY MAY LOOK TO TRY TO SNEAK THROUGH THE DOOR. THAT'S WHY MATT AND I, BECAUSE THEY'LL, THEY DON'T LIKE A LOT OF SMALL ONES. THEY LIKE ONE BIG ONE, BUT THEY MAY GO TO A SMALLER SIZE. SOME OF EM STARTED GOING TO THESE MICROS SIZE ONES. MM-HMM. THAT IT'S A SIZE OF A RESIDENTIAL LOT. YEAH. YEAH. UH, I, I MEAN THIS IS A SPACE I WORK IN. THAT'S, SO I'M PRETTY, PRETTY FAMILIAR. I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA. I WOULD SAY IF, IF YOU WANNA REALLY PROTECT THE COMMUNITY, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU CAN PUT AS GATES. OKAY. ONE IS A LOT OF POWER CONSUMPTION. RIGHT. HOW MUCH POWER CONSUMPTION IS THE FACILITY GONNA USE IF THEY'RE TALKING 10 MEGAWATTS OR MORE? IT'S PROBABLY A, WHAT WE WOULD CALL A DATA CENTER. MM-HMM . UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD REALLY BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR, REALLY BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR IS, ARE YOU USING GENERATORS AS POWER GENERATION ON SITE? RIGHT. BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PLACES, THEY HAVE A REAL NEGATIVE COMMUNITY IMPACT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET THE POWER THEY NEED. SO THEY BUILD 15 GENERATORS ALONG THE SIDE AND THEY RUN THOSE GENERATORS ALL DAY LONG. AND THAT'S WHAT PRODUCES THE NOISE. SO IF YOU COULD SAY, HEY, IF YOU ARE USING A GENERATOR AS PRIMARY POWER OR USING A GENERATOR CONSTANTLY TO PRODUCE POWER, YOU OUGHT TO FIT IN A DIFFERENT CATEGORY ALTOGETHER THAN ANYBODY ELSE. YEAH. I, IN [00:10:01] MY FIELD, THOSE DIESEL GENERATORS, YES. TYPICALLY THEY ARE, SOMETIMES THEY'RE NATURAL GAS. UH, BUT ACTUALLY A LOT OF THE BIGGER ONES NOW, THEY'RE RUNNING NATURAL GAS. 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE TRUCK COME REFILL IT. THOSE ARE VERY NOISY. THOSE ARE REALLY GOOD DEFINITIONS. BUT IN TERMS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, HOW WOULD YOU DEFINE THAT? WHAT WOULD YOU CONSIDER LARGE? WELL, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE ORDINANCES THAT I HAVE SEEN OVER THE OVER TIME ARE MEGAWATT DRIVEN. DRIVEN, NOT DRIVEN BY ANYTHING OTHER THAN MEGAWATT USAGE. NOT SQUARE FOOTAGE. SO, AND NOT BY SQUARE FOOTAGE. I'VE SEEN SOME THAT DO SQUARE FOOTAGE. 'CAUSE EVERYONE HAS SERVERS IN THEIR BUSINESS THOUGH, NOWADAYS. SO, BUT THE THING IS, IS AS, AS WE AS A GROUP DECIDE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE, IT CHANGES IT. NEXT WEEK IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY. AND, AND SERVER DENSITY IS GETTING, IS GOING MUCH, MUCH HIGHER. SO WHAT USED TO TAKE FOUR SERVERS IN A, IN A 72 INCH RACK, YOU KNOW, NOW IT'S 12. NEXT GENERATION IS GONNA BE 24, RIGHT? MM-HMM . SO THE DENSITY IS GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER, WHICH MEANS THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COOLING REQUIREMENT IS GONNA GO UP AND THE POWER'S GONNA GO UP. THAT'S WHY I SAY, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO CAPTURE THIS, PUT A CIRCLE AROUND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF POWER CONSUMPTION. PUT A CIRCLE AROUND POWER GENERATION. ISN'T WATER ALSO A FACTOR? WATER? UM, THERE IS WATER IS AN WATER IS AN ISSUE. BUT I THINK A LOT OF THE HYSTERIA THAT'S BEING GENERATED ABOUT WATER IS JUST THAT. IT'S HYSTERIA. IT'S LIKE IT'S GENERATED BY OUTSIDE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT US TO HAVE DATA CENTERS AT ALL. UH, BECAUSE THE REALITY OF WATER CONSUMPTION, IT'S KIND OF LIKE HAVING A POOL. IF YOU BUILD A POOL, YOU'RE GONNA CONSUME A LOT OF WATER WHEN YOU FILL THE POOL MM-HMM . BUT AFTER THAT, YOU DON'T CONSUME THAT MUCH WATER. MOST OF THESE LIQUID COOLED UNITS, MOST OF THESE LIQUID COOLED FACILITIES, IT'S A CLOSED SYSTEM. IN FACT, IT'S A LOT OF WATER, BUT IT'S MOSTLY PROPYLENE GLYCOL. UH, AND SO IT'S A COMPLETELY CLOSED SYSTEM. SO THIS IDEA THAT THEY'RE GONNA CONSUME ALL OUR WATER IS JUST HYSTERIA. UH, IT'S RIDICULOUS. HYSTERIA. ACTUALLY, IT WAS TRUE A YEAR AND A HALF OR TWO YEARS AGO IT WAS, IT'S NO LONGER, IT WAS, IT'S NO LONGER TRUE. THE EARLIER VERSIONS, THE ONES I SAW WERE, WERE, WERE HIGH WATER USE MM-HMM . HIGH WATER USE. 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT USING AN ANTIFREEZE OR A, OR A COAGULANT TYPE. YEAH. AND THE WATER WAS EVAPORATING AND THEY HAVE TO STEAM THAT OFF. RIGHT. THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S SOLVED EIGHT YEARS AGO. YEAH. SO THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S TECHNOLOGY CHANGES. WHAT YOU CALL IT A MICRO, WHAT YOU, THE SMALLER ONES COULD, COULD THESE THINGS START TO GET SO SMALL THAT THEY COULD BE HIDDEN INSIDE? YES. 100% OF A HOUSE, MAYBE F SIDE THAT LOOKS LIKE A HOUSE. ABSOLUTELY. YES. ABSOLUTELY. AND SO THOSE ARE ALREADY OUT THERE ACTUALLY, YEAH. THERE'S, THERE'S COMMUNICATION A A LOT OF, A LOT, A LOT OF THE TELECOMMUNICATION PROVIDERS STILL DO, LIKE AT AND T, VERIZON, THEY WILL GO INTO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, BUY A HOUSE, FORTIFY THE ENTIRE HOUSE, AND PUT A CENTRAL OFFICE IN A, IN A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE. THEY'VE DONE IT MILLIONS OF TIMES. YEP. YEAH. NOT HERE CITY DALLAS. OKAY. MATT, JUST, JUST A GOOD, GOOD DISCUSSION THOUGH. YEAH. YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. SO WE DID LOOK AT THE OMEGA DATA CENTERS. WE LOOKED AT THE CAMPUS SIZE AND WE REALLY DECIDED LET'S JUST REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ALL SIZES SO THAT IT GIVES COUNCIL THE DISCRETION. AND THEN WE, WE BROKE CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITIES OUT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE DIFFERENT USES, ALTHOUGH THEY DO LOOK VERY MUCH THE SAME AND ACT AND ACT THE SAME, THEY ACT THE SAME. SO ANYWAY, IN TERMS OF, I THINK WHEN I, MY ONLY ISSUE IS WHEN I READ THIS, I, I, I READ THAT THE DEFINITION OF DATA CENTER WAS A LITTLE VAGUE AND A LITTLE BROAD. AND I JUST REMEMBER THINKING THE, THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL ONE MM-HMM . UM, WAS VAGUE AND WAS BROAD. BUT THEN WE, WE'VE DEFINED IT. WE'VE TAKEN WHAT FORT FORT WORTH DID. YEAH. AND THEY HAD A WHOLE STEERING COMMITTEE AND, AND THEY WROTE THIS REALLY SPECIFIC DEF DEFINITION FOR A DATA CENTER. I LIKE THE SUP APPROACH BECAUSE THEN WE CAN AT LEAST HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON. EXACTLY. IT COMES THROUGH THE PROCESS. ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN WE CAN, RIGHT. AND, AND, AND WE CAN LOOK AT THE RESIDENTIAL AND SEE IF IT'S AN EXPERT. IF IT'S CENTERED IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND THERE'S NO NOISE POLLUTION, THEY CREATE ALL THEIR ELECTRICITY ON SITE AND THEY HAVE A CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, THEN IT'S UP TO COUNCIL. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT REALLY IMPACTING ANYONE. SO WE WANT TO ALLOW THAT DISCRETION COUNCIL TO HAVE THAT DISCRETION TO HEAR EACH, AND IT FORCES, IT FORCES THE USER TO SHOW UP TO YOUR POINT AND COME TO THE SYSTEM AND AT LEAST DISCUSS IT WITH US. AND NOW THAT I KNOW I HAVE AN EXPERT YEAH. I MIGHT ACTUALLY AT LEAST ADD ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE INTO THE DEFINITION OF ALL THE THINGS. BLAH, BLAH. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. CINDY'S BEEN PATIENTLY WAITING HERE. CINDY, FIRE AWAY. SO IF WE HAVE A SPECIFIC [00:15:01] COMMENT ON THE DEFINITION, DO WE, THIS IS NOT THE PROPER VENUE. DO WE WAIT TILL WE'RE OUT THERE TO RAISE IT? YEAH, WE SHOULD PROBABLY ADDRESS IT OUT THERE. OKAY. BUT AT LEAST WE'RE KIND OF HITTING THE HIGHLIGHTS SO WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT'S, AND THEN IF YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION, JUST MAKE IT OUT THERE. AND WE WILL INCLUDE, IF SOMEONE MAKES A MOTION TO DO IT AND SAY YOU WANT IT, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, ADD IT IN, WE'LL ADD IT IN. AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU WANT TO TWEAK, WE'LL TWEAK IT AND TAKE IT TO COUNCIL. RIGHT. YOU'D BE OBSOLETE BY THE TIME WE GET TO . THAT'S THE PROBLEM, IS TRYING TO STAY AHEAD OF NEW TECHNOLOGY. DON'T TOO SPECIFIC IN THIS WHOLE AREA OF COMPUTERS AND ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. IT'S LIKE BUYING STEREO EQUIPMENT. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME YOU BUY IT, YOU GET IT DELIVERED. ITS, ITS STILL A TRACK. HUH. ALRIGHT. VAN HALEN IS THIS INADVERTENTLY PULLING ANYTHING INTO THE SUV PROCESS THAT WOULDN'T NORMALLY GO THROUGH THE U PROCESS. SO LIKE IF, UM, VERIZON HAS A, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEIR CENTRAL OFFICES, CENTRAL OFFICES OR, AND THEY WANT TO EITHER BUILD ONE OR MOVE IT, OR IF THEY EXPAND THEIR, THEIR USE, EXPAND IT. YEAH. THEN THEY WOULD NEED TO COME THROUGH THE PROCESS. WHAT I WORRY ABOUT IS I WORRY ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO ALREADY HAS A FACILITY, UM, AND THEY DECIDE, HEY, I'M GONNA START HOSTING HERE. I DON'T HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES TO MY BUILDING. UH, WOULDN'T THE POWER, BUT THERE'S NOT AN INCREASE IN POWER. THERE'S NOT A POWER WIRE FOR THEM TO TRIP OVER HERE. RIGHT. YEAH. IF THEY'RE NOT EXPANDING THE, THE USE, THEY START ASKING, IT WOULD ALL BE INSIDE GENERATORS, THEN WE'RE GONNA QUESTION WHAT ARE THEY DOING PERHAPS. YEAH. OR IF, BUT, BUT, BUT THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT. THEY JUST SAY IF THEY JUST WENT TO ENCORE AND SAID, HEY ENCORE, I NEED A 15 MEGAWATT CIRCUIT. YOU WOULDN'T KNOW ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. MM-HMM. EXCEPT FOR WHAT ABOUT, UH, WITH THESE GUYS? BECAUSE THE ONES I PROCESS, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR USE APPROVED. APPROVED NOW. YEP. PROBABLY BEFORE. IT'LL PROBABLY BE IN JANUARY. IT WAS JUNE AND YOU HAD TO HAVE YOUR ZONING AND YOU HAD TO HAVE BUILDING PERMIT. THAT'S WHY THERE WAS A RUSH AND SOME OF THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES TO GET THE ZONING BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HAVE THE ZONING. DO THEY WENT TO THE BACK OF THE BUS FOR ERCOT. AND SO, UH, WE'RE BACK AHEAD OF THAT. BUT IF YOU GUYS HAVE, AND ESPECIALLY JOHN, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS. AND TO YOUR POINT, UH, , YOU, I CAN'T WRITE A REGULATION. IT MAY NOT BE OBSOLETE BY THE TIME IT GOES TO COUNCIL. IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'RE JUST HAVE TO CONSTANTLY MONITOR. BUT WE'VE GOT SOME CITIZENS WHO HAVE CONTACTED THE COUNCIL AND WERE FEARFUL BECAUSE WE . THAT'S WHY I LIKE, I LIKE THE IDEA OF PUTTING A, PUTTING A CIRCLE OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF POWER. IF YOU DRAW THEM MORE THAN THIS MUCH POWER, YOU GOTTA COME ASK PERMISSION. UH, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T VIOLATE THE LAWS OF PHYSICS. IT CAN GET SMALLER AND THEY CAN HIDE AND THEY CAN DO WHATEVER. BUT IF THEY GOTTA HAVE THE POWER, THEY GOTTA HAVE THE POWER. THEY'RE GONNA TRIP OVER THAT WIRE EVERY TIME. AND I, I NOW UNDERSTAND WHY THEY USE THAT MEGAWATT, UH, MATRIX AND SOME OF THE ORDINANCES THAT I SAW. YEAH. YEAH. THAT WOULD BE A, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO STEP THAT. YEAH. OKAY. WELL I'LL GET YOU THAT STUFF. OKAY. IF THEY WANT TO. AND IT, LET'S GET SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS AND IF WE NEED TO AMEND IT, WE'LL AMEND IT. ALRIGHT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? MAD, DID YOU, DID YOU FINISH MATT? NO, IT WAS ONLY LIKE THREE . YEAH. YEAH. WELL, ESSENTIALLY THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIG, BIG CHANGES. THE OTHER CHANGES ARE TO ADD THE DEFINITIONS AND DELETE THE TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FACILITY FROM THE DEFINITIONS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I WILL, IF, IF YOU ALL DON'T MIND, IF, IF YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS, GO AHEAD AND MAKE THEM. AND MATT AND I WILL CERTAINLY INCLUDE THEM. BUT MATT, AND I'LL MOVE THE MEGAWATT MATRIX AND WE MAY PROPOSE THAT AT THE COUNCIL. OKAY. ANOTHER THING YOU, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN PREVIOUSLY IS SOMETIMES THEY'LL, THEY'LL STEP IT ON, UH, ON, UH, TONS OF HVAC ALSO THAT YOU GET 'EM THAT WAY ALSO, BECAUSE WHETHER IT'S LIQUID COOLED OR AIR COOLED OR WHATEVER, IT'S GENERALLY TONS OF HVAC REQUIRED. HOW MUCH COOLING, HOW MUCH COOLING DO YOU NEED? YEAH. OR WHAT ABOUT NET INCREASE IN POWER CONSUMPTION? LIKE YOU'RE AT CURTAIN HISTORICALLY, YOU'VE BEEN HERE ALL OF A SUDDEN, HERE'S A MASSIVE SPIKE THAT STAYS, I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. I MEAN, AGAIN, I THINK THE CLEANEST WAY IS TO PUT A SURE. IF YOU'RE SUCKING THAT MUCH POWER, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU ARE, YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING. YEAH. OKAY. CAN'T, CAN'T GET AWAY FROM THAT. YEAH. BUT THE CITY CAN'T, I MEAN, THE CITY DOESN'T GO TO ENCO GO, HEY, DID YOU HAVE ANY NEW USES? YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THE CITY REGULATE THAT? THEY CAN'T. DON'T. AND WE SO MANY IN RETO, THEY HAD TO HAVE A SUBSTATION. [00:20:01] HAD TO AUTHORIZE IT. AND THE, THE GOOD NEWS FOR THE CITIZENS IS THEY NOW HAVE ANOTHER POWER SOURCE IN TOWN. MM-HMM . UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT POWER STATION, THAT POWER HAS BEEN ALLOCATED TO THEM. YEAH. COMMUNITY DATA CENTERS CAN AFFORD AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO, THEY HAVE STUPID MONEY. AND EVEN IF IT'S NOT, EVEN IF IT'S NOT HUNDREDS STUPID MONEY, EVEN IF IT'S NOT HUNDREDS OF MEGAWATTS, THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY FOR AN ELECTRICAL PERMIT JUST TO PLACE A TRANSFORMER, IF NOTHING ELSE. AND THAT CAN BE YOUR TRIP WIRE IN INSIDE THE CITY ALSO. OKAY. SO JOHN, SO THERE'S NO RELIANCE. EXCUSE ME. SORRY. AMIDST ALL THIS, UM, DO YOU SEE ANY BENEFITS OF A DATA CENTER BEING WELCOMED INTO, LET'S SAY ? UH, YEAH. I MEAN THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE BEING BUILT AND INSTALLED. THERE'S A TAX BASE THERE. THAT'S GOTTA BE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, I WOULD THINK. YES. I MEAN, I WORK, SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A FRAME OF REFERENCE. SO I WORK IN THE WORLD'S ACTUALLY THE ONLY AI SERVER REPAIR CENTER IN THE WORLD. I RUN THAT FACILITY RIGHT OVER HERE IN GRAPEVINE'S, NOT FAR AWAY. UH, AN A SINGLE AI SERVER BOARD. JUST ONE A SINGLE AI SERVER BOARD'S ABOUT THIS BIG HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. WOW. WE GET THESE DATA CENTERS. THESE DATA CENTERS LITERALLY HAVE THOUSANDS OF THEM. THOSE ARE NUMBERS THAT START WITH AND THEY, AND THEY HAVE TO BE REPLACED IF CHINA YEAH. FIX 'EM. AND THEY HAVE A LIFE. AND SO THE PERSONAL PROPERTY AT WARREN TAX IS, CAN BE, CAN BE GIGANTIC. YES. LIKE, YES. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR. MM-HMM . AND FOR US THAT YOU COULD REDUCE YOUR TAX BASE FROM THE CITY'S PER, YOU KNOW, FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF IT THAT WE JUST, AND THAT'S WHY RED OAK'S DONE WHAT THEY'VE DONE. YEAH. YEAH. AND WE HAVE ALL THAT FARMLAND AND I, I KNOW THERE'S A BUNCH OF CITIZENS UPSET, BUT THEY COULD RUN THAT CITY FOR AS LONG AS THOSE DATA CENTERS ARE THERE. AND FIRST CLASS, MANY OF THESE DATA CENTERS HAVE GOT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S 10, 11 FIGURES. ARE YOU GOOD ON THAT? RIGHT. SO BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH PLANNED, BUT THERE ARE SOME PARCELS THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE IT. OKAY. WELL ACTUALLY WHEN MATT AND I WERE DOING THIS, THE OLD IBM QUOTE CALL CENTER WAS A DATA CENTER BY MODERN TERMINOLOGY. 'CAUSE I, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THEY HAD PEOPLE MANNING THE PHONES AND IT WAS VOICEOVER INTERNET. I KEEP THINKING OF THOSE PARCELS ADJACENT TO AAA. YEAH. WE ACTUALLY HAD AN INQUIRY FOR ONE ON LESSON TRACK, WHICH IS NOW VICTORY. THE GUY COME AND PITCHED THAT . BUT WITH THAT, THAT WAS YEARS AND YEARS. IF A CALL CENTER LIKE I, NO, BUT IF THEY WANTED, IF THEY WERE COMING IN NEW FOR AN EXAMPLE, THEY WOULD'VE TO GET A GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE WOULD SEE WHAT IT IS AND WE CAN EVALUATE IT, WHAT IT IS AND THEY'D HAVE TO GET AN SUP. IS THAT THE INTENT THOUGH? YES. JUST BECAUSE OF THE HYSTERIA, UH, GOING ON WITH THEM. WE'VE HAD CITIZENS GOING, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT DATA CENTERS? AND I KEPT SAYING, I DON'T THINK IT'S A REAL PROBLEM FOR US, BUT HAVE TALKING TO INDUSTRY. YEAH. BOBMEYER HERE, I'M GOING, IF THEY CAN PUT ONE IN YOUR BACK POCKET, THEN YEAH. WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT THAT. JUST, AND YOU WOULD NORMALLY APPROVE THOSE. IF, IF EVERYTHING'S FINE AND THEY CAN GET THE POWER, THEY'RE UNASSUMING. THERE'S ONE IN PLANO ACTUALLY OVER BEHIND WHERE, UM, INTUIT IS, THAT'S THEIR, UH, YOU, THERE'S PEOPLE PASSING EVERY DAY. I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT'S THERE. AND I KNOW BECAUSE OF THE BARBED WIRE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT'S, AND THERE ARE, ARE THINGS WINDOWS ON IT. AND THERE ARE DEFINITELY THINGS YOU CAN DO TO MITIGATE, I MEAN, THE THINGS THAT IMPACT, THERE'S THINGS THAT IMPACT COMMUNITY OR NOISE MOSTLY. UH, THE, THE WATER THING IS, IS NOT REAL. IT'S NOT REAL FROM THE GENERATORS. NOT YES. YES. ONE, IF THEY'RE GONNA RUN GENERATORS TO PRODUCE POWER, THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM IN MOST PLACES. UNLESS THEY'RE FAR OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE. OURS ARE ALL RUN OUT THERE AND READ OVER, RUN OFF THE GRID. IF THE GRID GETS TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, THEY HAVE TO KICK ON THE GENERATOR. YEAH. GENERATOR. AND IF THOSE ARE RUNNING AGAIN, THAT'S A LOT OF NOISE. THERE'S NOISE MITIGATION TECHNIQUES THAT YES, THEY CAN FOR SURE. WE COULD FOR SURE. YOU CAN PUT BUFFERS ON THOSE THINGS, BUT SOMETIMES IF YOU GOT 50 OF 'EM, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. MM-HMM . AND, AND SOMETIMES JUST IF THEY'RE USING AIR, UH, OR IF THEY'RE USING CHILLERS FOR COOLING, SOMETIMES THE FANS ON THE CHILLERS, IF THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE, IF, AND, AND IF THEY WANT TO CHEAP OUT AND PUT 'EM ALONG THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THOSE WILL GENERATE A LOT OF NOISE AS WELL. IF YOU MAKE 'EM PUT 'EM ON THE ROOF ROOF, IT'S NOT, AND THEN LOOK AT THE ROOF. THAT'S, IT'S NO PROBLEM. THAT'S EXACTLY THE STUFF WE WOULD DO TO REGULATE IT. I'D REQUIRE HIM TO PUT 'EM ON THE ROOF. I'D REQUIRE 'EM TO BE SCREENED. SO MATT, UNDER A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME IN WITH AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS MM-HMM . I MEAN IN TERMS OF CRITERIA FOR WHAT WE WOULD LOOK AT FOR APPROVAL. YEAH. WHAT WOULD [00:25:01] THAT BE? SO, WELL, SO I WOULD, UM, HAVE THEM LOOK AT, AT GUIDELINES FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT DO ALLOW THEM BY RIGHT. AND WHAT THEY REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, LIKE FORT WORTH, THEY REQUIRE, UH, CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM, UH, RESIDENTIAL, THEY REQUIRE NOISE MITIGATION. UM, YOU KNOW, NO MORE THAN FIVE DECALS ABOVE THE AMBIENT NOISE. YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I WOULD HELP THEM GET THEIR APPLICATION RIGHT. TO BRING IT FORWARD AND, YOU KNOW, LEAVE IT UP TO YOU GUYS AND CITY COUNCIL TO, TO MAKE, MAKE THE DECISION. IF YOU RECALL, WE DID, LIKE WHEN FRACKING WAS A BIG ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, WE DEVELOPED REGULATIONS FOR THAT AND THEY WERE SOME RUN NOISE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS. AND SO IT'D BE THE SAME KIND OF THING THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THEM. YOU MAY EVEN HIT HIRED JOHN OR SOMEONE LIKE JOHN TO HELP US WITH REGULATIONS TO BRING YOU SO THAT YOU'VE GOT THE LATEST INVEST. SO THAT'S THE TOOLS LEVEL AND THEN YOU BRING IT FORWARD FOR OUR REVIEW. YEAH. WELL, WELL, SO I'LL GO THROUGH WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE FOR, UH, FOR AN LI DISTRICT. UM, I'LL GO THROUGH THAT TONIGHT. AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S A LOT OF PLANS, A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF TIME ARAN, VERY TRANSPARENT PROCESS. AND THEN THESE GUYS ARE PROFESSIONALS. YOU KNOW, THEY'VE DONE THIS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, SO THEY WOULD KNOW THE TRIGGER POINTS. SURE. AND THEY, THEY WOULD KNOW HOW TO SATISFY, YOU KNOW, MAKING ONE FIT IN WITHIN A CITY THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY LAND LEFT FOR. BUT, BUT THAT AAA PARCEL, THAT WAS A GOOD POINT. YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL ZONED LI THAT MIGHT BE MY CONCERN IS LIKE, IF YOU HAVE, IT IS OVERLY BROAD, LIKE SOMETHING IN FREEPORT OR CALL CENTER AND SO FORTH. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW ALL OF THOSE ARE COMING IN. LIKE IT'S, IT IS A BIT OF A LAND USE ISSUE BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING NOW EVERYTHING HAS TO COME THROUGH THIS PROCESS BECAUSE WE CAN'T WRITE THE DEFINITION SPECIFIC ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, TARGET, UH, WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO TARGET. SO THEN ALL THESE OTHER THINGS IN FREEPORT COULD BE, THERE'S OBVIOUS STILL A LOT OF BUSINESSES THERE. I, I THINK IT'S BETTER TO HAVE IT BROAD ENOUGH TO CAPTURE WHAT YOU WANT TO CAPTURE. AND IF IT NEEDS TO BE REFINED OVER TIME, I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO THAT. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S, IT IS NOT OVERLY BROAD RIGHT NOW. I MEAN THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 'CAUSE THE COMPANY I WORK FOR, WE DID NOT BUILD A NEW FACILITY. WE WENT OUT, BOUGHT A HALF A MILLION SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE AND CONVERTED INTO A REPAIR CENTER. RIGHT. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEN THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL OBSTACLE TO COME THROUGH. I MEAN, YOU, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE ALWAYS HAVE COMMUNITY INPUT AND SO IT DOES START TO SORT OF INFRINGE A BIT ON SORT OF LAND USE RIGHTS AND LIKE OVERSTEPPING IN TERMS OF LIKE WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE WANNA, WE WANNA SEE EVERYTHING. YEAH. AND SO, AND IT COULD PREVENT BUSINESSES FROM COMING AND THE STATE, THE STATE, THE STATE MAY TAKE IT AWAY FROM US ANYHOW. WELL, WELL, RIGHT. I THINK, I THINK IT'S PRUDENT TO, TO LOOK, LOOK AT DATA CENTERS AND, AND CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING JUST BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A ENERGY, ENERGY USER AND, AND WATER USE POTENTIALLY WATER. MAYBE NOT, BUT UH, A NOISE GENERATOR. YEAH. YOU KNOW, SO, AND THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE. AND I THINK THE I SENATE BILL OR HOUSE BILL ONE WILL HAVE THE WORD DATA CENTER IS WHAT I'M HEARING. ALRIGHT. WE GOT A COUPLE MINUTES LEFT. LET'S, UH, WANNA REVIEW THE CASES FROM CITY COUNCIL AND THE UPDATE ON COUNCIL ACTIONS. ITEM EIGHT ON THE AGENDA. SO WE DID TAKE, UM, SHOPS AT SANDY LAKE TO COUNCIL AND THAT WAS APPROVED. UM, AND WE'LL BE TAKING THE ORDINANCE FOR THAT NEXT WEEK TO COUNCIL. APPROVED. SEVEN ZERO APPROVED SEVEN ZERO. YES. IT WAS, IT DID REQUIRE, IT REQUIRED A SUPER, SUPER MAJORITY VOTE. 'CAUSE THEY HAD OVER 20% OPPOSITION TO, YEAH. SO THAT WAS 20% OF LAND AREA OPPOSITION. YEAH. HOW MANY, HOW MANY VOTED FOR IT OR AGAINST IT? SEVEN. SEVEN ZERO. SEVEN ZERO. I THINK THAT WAS KIND OF IMPORTANT. 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD A WORD. WHAT'S THE CONCLUSION ON THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL? ARE THEY GONNA LOOK AT IT? THAT WASN'T A PART OF THE ZONING. NO, IT'S TOO CLOSE. SOME PART OF THE ZONING. OKAY. I REMEMBER THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THEM LOOKING AT IT TO SEE IF THERE WAS GONNA BE RIGHT. HEAT WARRANTS OR SOMETHING. I THINK AT THIS POINT IT'S NOT WARRANTED. OKAY. HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOWED UP? ALL OF THEM. . I THINK THERE'S A GOOD NUMBER, BUT THAT THEY, THEY WERE MUCH BETTER BEHAVED THAN THEY WERE THE FIRST TIME. THEY, I THINK THEY REALIZED WHAT THE ISSUES ARE AND WHILE THEY WERE DISAPPOINTED THERE WAS NOT CAT CALLING OR [00:30:02] IT WAS MORE ACCEPTED AND THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE AT THIS POINT. THEY ALREADY HAD THE ZONING, THE SITE PLAN WAS BETTER THAN WHAT THE CONCEPT PLAN WAS. YES. I THINK THEIR HOPE WAS THAT IT WOULD JUST GO AWAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ONE MORE ITEM HERE, MARY. YEP. UM, SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OR NOT, BUT, UH, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT KICKING OFF THE 2040 COMP PLAN. COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN. SO WE JUST MET WITH OUR CONSULTANTS TODAY. WE HAVE, UH, APPROVED CONTRACT WITH UH, KIMLEY HORN. AND SO WE'LL BE KICKING THAT OFF SHORTLY. AND, UH, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ANYWHERE FROM 15 TO 18 MONTH PROCESS. SO YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HAVE A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE A LITTLE BIT INTO THAT PROCESS. IT'S A BIG DEAL. LITTLE NOTE ON THAT BIG DEAL THAT WAS PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS AND THE REVIEWING THE PROPOSALS, THERE WERE FIVE SUBMITTALS AND THEN THERE WERE THREE THAT WERE SHORTLISTED AND KIMLEY HORN WAS BY FAR THE BEST. UH, THE OTHERS, THEY HAD SOME MATERIAL, BUT KIMLEY HORN BROUGHT A LOT TO THE TABLE. MM-HMM . INCLUDING LEGISLATIVE REVIEW THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON DOWN IN AUSTIN THAT MIGHT AFFECT SOME OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT. SO THEY'RE GOOD FIRMS. WHO ARE THE OTHER TWO FIRMS? UH, DESIGN WORKSHOP ABLE CITIES FOR THE OTHER TWO. AND THEN THE OTHER, THE OTHERS THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT WAS WESTWOOD AND CAN'T REMEMBER THE OTHER ONE. THERE'S ONE OTHER ONE FROM NO, THEY WERE FROM LIKE, UH, OUT OF, OUT OF OUT STATE. YEAH. LAST WAS, YEAH. GOOD JOB YOU GUYS. ALRIGHTY. ALRIGHT. QUICK BREAK OR ARE WE GOOD TO GO NOW? LET'S DO IT. OKAY. WE'RE GOING IN. OKAY. [3. Regular Session (Open to the Public)] ALRIGHTY. THE TIME IS 6 34 AND THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION IS CONVENING INTO GENERAL SESSION. UH, ITEM THREE ON THE AGENDA IS REVIEWING THE, UH, MINUTES OF THE, I'M SORRY. GREAT. WHERE IS IT? NUMBER FIVE. OKAY. WE MOVED IT BACK. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY. ITEM FOUR, CITIZEN'S APPEARANCE. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM? NOT ON THE AGENDA. SEEING NONE AND LOOKING OVER AT CAMIE, THERE'S NONE THAT NO ONE SIGNED UP. OKAY. WE WILL MOVE [5. 2026-0383 Consider approval of the July 16, 2026, Planning and Zoning meeting minutes.] ON TO ITEM FIVE ON THE AGENDA. THAT IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF OUR MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR JULY 16TH MEETING. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSION OR IS THERE A MOTION BY THE COMMISSION? I MOVE TO APPROVE. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HAMAN. IS THERE A SECOND? NO, SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DO MEYER CAMMIE WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLE? PLEASE, PLEASE RESPOND BY SAYING I NICE. I CALL YOUR NAME. COMMISSIONER PATEL. AYE. COMMISSIONER DO MEYER AYE. VICE CHAIR BLANKENSHIP AYE. CHAIRMAN HAAS AYE. COMMISSIONER MAUER. AYE. COMMISSIONER HAMAN AYE. AND COMMISSIONER BISHOP. AYE. ALL APPROVE? NONE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. [6. 2026-0386 Consider approval of the OAM Addition, Lot 1, Block A, Replat (formerly North Lake Estates, Parts of Lot 13 and 14), a replat to merge properties into one lot that was previously combined by metes and bounds in order to create a residential building site, on 0.194 acres of property located on 820 Howell Drive. STAFF REP.: Mary Paron-Boswell] ITEM SIX ON THE AGENDA IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE OAM EDITION LOT ONE BLOCK A THAT BEING A REPL, FORMERLY THE NORTH LAKE ESTATES PART, UH, PARTS OF LOTS 13 AND 14. THIS IS A RELA TO MERGE PROPERTIES INTO ONE LOT, UH, THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY COMBINED, UH, BY MEETS AND BOUNDS IN ORDER TO CREATE A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING SITE ON 0.194 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT EIGHT 20 HAL STREET. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY MS. MARY PERONE BOSWELL. OH, STAFF. THANK YOU. UH, GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS. UM, ITEM SIX. SO THIS PROPERTY CONSISTS OF A PORTION OF LOT 13 AND A PORTION OF LOT 14 WITHIN THE NORTH LAKE ESTATES SUBDIVISION. THE ORIGINAL PLAT WAS PLAT, THE ORIGINAL PLAT WAS RECORDED IN 1961. AT SOME POINT IN TIME, SOME OF THE LOTS IN THE SUBDIVISION APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN SUBDIVIDED BY MEETS AND BOUNDS AND NOT BY REPL. SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE LOTS. THE CURRENT LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR THIS PROPERTY IS THE NORTH 30 FEET OF LOT 14 AND THE SOUTH 35 FEET OF LOT 13. THIS REQUEST IS TO RELA THESE TWO PORTIONS INTO ONE WHOLE LOT AGAIN, UH, THE HOME THAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED. THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD LIKE TO CONSTRUCT A NEW HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH REQUIRES A PLATTED LOT FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT. THE APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO OBTAIN A BUILDING PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT A HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY ONCE THE PLAT IS FILED. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE OAM ADDITION, LOT ONE BLOCK, A REPL SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. ONE THAT ADDITIONAL COMMENTS MAY BE GENERATED UPON DETAIL BUILDING PERMIT REVIEWS. THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. OKAY. THANK YOU MARY. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BY THE COMMISSION? OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION? IS THERE A MOTION? IT'S [00:35:01] NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE AS, UH, RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. OKAY. WE HAVE, UH, UH, A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HAMAN. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. SECOND. BY, UH, COMMISSIONER PATEL. CAMIE, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? PLEASE DO. SOLE MY SAYING IRON. NICE. I CALL YOUR NAME. COMMISSIONER PATEL. AYE. COMMISSIONER MEYER? AYE. VICE CHAIR OF SHIP. AYE. CHAIRMAN HAAS AYE. COMMISSIONER MAUER. AYE. COMMISSIONER HAMAN AYE. COMMISSIONER BISHOP? AYE. ALL APPROVE? NONE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM [7. 2026-0387 PUBLIC HEARING: Consider seven text change amendments to the Code of Ordinances, Chapter 12; 1) to amend Article 25, Light Industrial District, of said chapter to add “Concrete Batching Plant (Temporary)” to permitted uses; 2) Delete “Technology Equipment Facility” from permitted uses; 3) to amend Article 30-12 Special Use Permits “LI” Light Industrial to require a Special Use Permit for a “Cryptocurrency Mining Facility” Use; 4) to require a Special Use Permit for a “Data Center” Use; 5) to amend Article 42, Special Definitions to add a definition for “Cryptocurrency Mining Facility”; 6) a definition for “Data Center;” and 7) to delete the definition for “Technology Equipment Facility”.] SEVEN IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS TO CONSIDER SEVEN TEXT CHANGE AMENDMENTS TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. THAT BEING CHAPTER 12, UH, ONE NUMBER ONE LOT TO AMEND. ARTICLE 25 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT OF SAID CHAPTER TO ADD CONCRETE BATCHING PLANTS, TEMPORARY, UH, TO PERMITTED USES TO DELETE TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FACILITY FROM PERMITTED USES TO AMEND ARTICLE 30 DASH 12 SPECIAL USE PERMITS LI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY USE TO REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A DATA CENTER TO AMEND ARTICLE 42. SPECIAL DEFINITIONS TO ADD A DEFINITION FOR CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY, A DEFINITION FOR DATA CENTER. AND TO DELETE THE DEFINITION FOR TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FACILITY. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY MR. MATT STEER. MATT? THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. I THINK YOU SUMMED UP MY, UH, PRESENTATION PRETTY WELL IN THE CAPTION . UM, WE HAD GOOD, WE HAD GOOD DIALOGUE IN THE WORK SESSION. YES, BUT, UH, NO, A REVIEW WOULD BE GOOD THERE. OKAY. SO A, UM, A PLA FOR A PROPERTY THAT WILL HAVE A TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT FOR LESS THAN SIX MONTHS WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON JULY 16TH, 2026. AT THAT TIME, A QUESTION CAME UP REGARDING HOW MANY TIMES A TEMPORARY BATCHING PLANT COULD BE PERMITTED ON THE SAME PROPERTY TO PREVENT APPLICANTS FROM USING CONSECUTIVE TEMPORARY PERMITS. TO BYPASS THE SIX MONTH SUP PRO OR SUP REQUIREMENT, THE CITY IS PROPOSING TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE DIRECTLY. THEN THE OTHER, UH, COMPONENT OF THE TEXT AMENDMENTS ARE REQUIRING A CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY OR DATA CENTER USE TO OBTAIN A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THAT'S A PROACTIVE ADDITION TO THE ORDINANCE, NOT IN RESPONSE TO A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT. THIS WILL ALLOW THE CITY OF CAPITAL TO RESPONSIBLY REGULATE THE USE AND POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THESE PROPOSED USES ON THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS CAN BE SEPARATED INTO TWO DISTINCT CATEGORIES. THE FIRST IS RELATED TO TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT USE, AND THE SECOND RELATES TO THE DATA CENTERS AND CRYPTO MINING FACILITIES. BOTH ARE REGULATED WITHIN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. SO THE CONCRETE BATCHING PLANT AMENDMENT ALLOWS THAT LAND USE BY RIGHT AND SETS UP THE RECURRENCE LIMITS IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. CURRENTLY, THIS USE IS ALLOWED BY WRIGHT. THIS IS IMPLIED BY THE REQUIREMENT THAT ONLY BATCH PLANTS OPERATING FOR MORE THAN SIX MONTHS REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS TO HELP CLARIFY WHEN THE USE IS ALLOWED BY WRIGHT AND WHEN IT WHEN IT REQUIRES AN SUP. BECAUSE THE USE IS TEMPORARY IN NATURE. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT INCLUDES A PROVISION THAT WOULD ALLOW NO MORE THAN ONE SIX MONTH BATCH PLANT WITHIN AN 18 CONSECUTIVE MONTH PERIOD FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE TEMPORARY USE. SECOND PART OF THE REQUEST RELATES TO TECHNOLOGY, EQUIPMENT, FACILITY USE AND BATCH PLANT AND CRYPTOCURRENCY. SO AGAIN, THIS IS PROACTIVE. IT'S THE CITY INITIATED AMENDMENT AND NOT PROMPTED BY ANY ACTIVE OR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS WITHIN THE CITY OF COPPEL. CURRENTLY, A TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FACILITY DEFINED AS STRUCTURES, HOUSING, TELECOMMUNICATIONS, COMPUTER, AND HIGH TECHNOLOGY DATA ROUTING EQUIPMENT IS PERMITTED BY WRIGHT WITHIN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSES TO ELIMINATE, UH, TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FACILITY AS A PERMITTED BY RIGHT USE. MOVING FORWARD, THESE OPERATIONS WILL BE CLASSIFIED UNDER NEW DATA CENTER OR CRYPTO MINING FACILITIES. CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY, LAND USE DEFINITIONS. BOTH USES WILL NOW REQUIRE SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPROVAL. THIS CHANGE ENSURES THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE DISCRETION TO EVALUATE THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS THROUGH THE PLANNING AND PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. WHAT'S DISPLAYED BEFORE YOU IS THE SUP PLANNING PROCESS. SO THE SPECIAL USE PRO PROCESS SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS BEGINS WITH AN INTERNAL REVIEW BY THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE OR DRC TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH [00:40:01] ZONING SUBDIVISION AND BUILDING CODES. SO THAT'S IN THE, THE RED BOX THERE. FOLLOWING THIS, THE DRC MEETS WITH THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS COMMENTS AND CONFIRM THE APPLICANT'S READY FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. PRIOR TO THE HEARING, THE APPLICANT MUST POST A ZONING CHANGE, REQUESTED SIGN ON THE PROPERTY. AND CONCURRENTLY CITY STAFF MAILS PUBLIC NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET PER STATE LAW AND WITHIN EIGHT EIGHT WITHIN 800 FEET. AS A COURTESY NOTICES NOTICE, STAFF THEN PREPARES A FORMAL REPORT FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. AFTER CONDUCTING A PUBLIC HEARING, THE COMMISSION FOURS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL. IF THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN APPROVE THE REQUEST. BY SIMPLE MAJORITY, UNLESS PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN TWO 20 WITH 20% OR MORE OF THE LAND AREA WITHIN 200 FEET IS OPPOSED, THIS 20% REQUIRES A SUPER MAJORITY, WHICH IS SIX OUTTA SEVEN REQUIREMENT. IF THE COMMISSION DENIES THE REQUEST, THE APPLICANT MAY APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH ALSO REQUIRES A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE TO APPROVE THE PERMIT OR THE PLANT, OR THE SUP, UH, REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR DATA CENTERS AND CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY GRANTS THE CITY COUNCIL DISCRETION OVER THEIR APPROVAL WITHIN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. THE SUP PROCESS ENSURES A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, INCLUDING THE SITE PLAN, LANDSCAPE PLAN, TREE SURVEY, BUILDING ELEVATIONS, AND PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING. THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UH, CURRENTLY THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THEI DISTRICT, THEY INCLUDE A HEIGHT THAT IS NO LIMIT EXCEPT FOR 35 FOOT MAXIMUM WHEN LOCATED WITHIN 100 FEET, 150 FEET OF A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. THEN THE FRONT SETBACK REQUIREMENT IS 30 FEET, UH, WHICH INCREASES TO 60 FEET IF PARKING IS LOCATED IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. AND THEN THE SIDE AND REAR SETBACKS ARE 10 FEET, WHICH INCREASES TO 50 FEET WHEN ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SCREENING REQUIREMENTS ARE A MINIMUM SIX FOOT WALL OR CITY COUNCIL APPROVED. EVERGREEN SCREENING IS REQUIRED NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS. UH, WHILE STAFF WILL GUIDE DEVELOPERS THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS AND ENCOURAGE SENSITIVITY TOWARDS NEARBY RESIDENTIAL USES THE FINAL AUTHORITY TO APPROVE OR DENY THE SUP REST SOLELY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. STAFF ORIGINALLY, UH, HAD PROPOSED A DATA CENTER, UH, DEFINITION THAT WAS VERY BROAD. HOWEVER, TO PREVENT THE CONFUSION SEEN IN OTHER TEXAS CITIES BETWEEN DATA CENTERS AND CRYPTO MINING, THE TWO ARE NOW SEPARATED INTO DISTINCT USES WITH INDIVIDUAL DEFINITIONS. SO A CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY USE, OR A CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY USES HOW HIGH POWERED COMPUTER SERVER FARMS TO OPERATE INTENSIVE COMPUTATIONS TO VALIDATE TRANSACTIONS AND GENERATE DIGITAL CURRENCY. THESE ARE DIFFERENT FROM A DATA CENTER THAT PROVIDES DATA MANAGEMENT SERVICES, WHICH IS DATA PROCESSING, STORAGE, CONVERSION, WAREHOUSING, DISSEMINATION, WEB HOSTING, OR CLOUD COMPUTING. SO CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING OPERATIONS CONSUME MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF WATER FOR COOLING SYSTEMS, CONTINUOUS ENERGY CONSUMPTION, AND HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF NOISE DUE TO THE COOLING FANS. TRADITIONAL DATA CENTERS REQUIRE CONSTANT UN UNINTERRUPTED 24 7 UPTIME WITH COMPLEX BACKUP SYSTEMS WHILE, WHILE CRYPTOCURRENCY FACILITIES CAN EASILY SHUT DOWN OR CURTAIL POWER USE DURING HIGH DEMAND OR GRID GRID EVENTS, BUT BOTH TYPES OF FACILITIES SHARE HEAVILY OR HEAVY ELECTRICAL AND COOLING NEEDS. BUT THEIR PRIMARY PURPOSES AND RELIABILITY REQUIREMENTS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. SO AFTER RESEARCHING OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DEFINITIONS, UH, FOR WORTH'S DEFINITIONS WERE CHOSEN DUE TO THE PRECISE LANGUAGE THEY INCLU HAD INCLUDED. THE PROPOSED DEFINITION FOR CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY IS AS FOLLOWS. WE GOT IT UP HERE ON OUR SCREEN. CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY, ALSO REFERRED TO AS DIGITAL ASSET MINING OR HIGH DENSITY LOAD COMPUTING, REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY CONSISTING OF A BUILDING STRUCTURE OR SPECIALIZED OPEN AIR ENCLOSURE CONTAINING NETWORK COMPUTERS APPLICATION SPECIFIC INTEGRATED C CIRCUIT CHIPS OR RELATED ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT UTILIZED FOR THE PRIMARY PURPOSES OF VERIFYING TRANSACTIONS, SOLVING CRYPTOGRAPHIC ALGORITHMS, GENERATING DIGITAL CURRENCY OR COMPUTING BLOCKCHAIN ASSETS. THIS CLASSIFICATION IS CHARACTERIZED BY AN ULTRA HIGH DENSITY POWER DEMAND, CONTINUOUS 24 7 365 BASE LOAD ELECTRICITY CONSUMPTION AND RELIANCE ON SPECIALIZED OPEN AIR VENTILATION OR [00:45:01] CONTINUOUS INDUSTRIAL HEAT DISSIPATION SYSTEMS. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE OPERATION IS A PRIMARY OR ANCILLARY USE, THE PROPOSED DEFINITION FOR DATA CENTER IS AS FOLLOWS, DATA CENTER REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY CONSISTING OF A, OF A BUILDING GROUP OF BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES, SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED OR MODIFIED TO HOUSE NETWORKED COMPUTER SERVERS, DATA STORAGE SYSTEMS AND TRANSACTION PROCESSING EQUIPMENT. THE PRIMARY USE OF THE FACILITY IS THE PROVISION OF DATA MANAGEMENT SERVICES, INCLUDING DATA PROCESSING, STORAGE, CONVERSION, WAREHOUSING, DISSEMINATION, WEB HOSTING, OR CLOUD COMPUTING TO ONE OR MORE EXTERNAL OR INTERNAL CLIENTS. THIS USE INCLUDES ALL NECESSARY ANCILLARY INFRASTRUCTURE, INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORT EQUIPMENT ONSITE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, EMERGENCY BACKUP POWER GENERATORS, ELECTRICAL SUBSTATIONS, COOLING TOWERS AND VENTILATION SYSTEMS, BUT EXPLICITLY EXCLUDES STANDALONE AND CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING OPERATIONS. THE TERM DATA CENTER SHALL NOT INCLUDE ANY FACILITY STRUCTURE OR PORTION THEREOF UTILIZED AS CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY AS DEFINED HEREIN. SUCH USES ARE DISTINCT. WE, UH, WE PROPOSE DELETING, UH, THIS DEFINITION OF TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FACILITY TO, TO AVOID CONFUSION AS THIS USE IS NOW COVERED UNDER THE CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING AND DATA CENTER DEFINITIONS. UH, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT ESTABLISHES CLEAR PARAMETERS FOR BATCH PLANTS BY DEFINING WHEN THE USE IS ALLOWED BY BY WRIGHT VERSUS WHEN IT REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ACCOUNT FOR THE TEMPORARY NATURE OF THESE OPERATIONS. THE AMENDMENT LIMITS THE USE TO ONE SIX MONTH BATCH PLANT WITHIN ANY 18 MONTH PERIOD. FINALLY, BY REQUIRING SUP FOR DATA CENTERS AND CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITIES, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY GUARANTEEING A COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS BE FOLLOWED BEFORE ANY FINAL ACTION STAFF'S RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENTS. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I'VE GOT BOB HERE AS SUPPORT AS WELL. OKAY, VERY GOOD. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, MATT. AND WE HAD SOME GREAT DISCUSSION IN, IN WORK SESSION AND I'M GONNA ASK COMMISSIONER DO MEYER TO, TO START OUT FIRST AS THIS IS HIS FIELD OF, UM, EXPERTISE. AND SO, BUT YOU HAD SOME GREAT COMMENTS IN OUR WORK SESSION, SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU THERE. COMMISSIONER MEYER. SURE. A HANDFUL OF POINTS HERE. UM, I THINK THE STAFF HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB IN, IN, IN COLLECTING A POTENTIAL CATCH BUCKET FOR DEFINITION OF THINGS LIKE DATA CENTER AND CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING. MY, MY OVERALL RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THERE ARE A COUPLE ADDITIONAL TRIP WIRES I THINK YOU COULD PUT INTO PLACE, UH, THAT WOULD MAYBE BE A LITTLE BIT ADDITIONALLY EFFECTIVE AT CAPTURING POTENTIAL FLYBYS, UH, OF THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY. AND THOSE INCLUDE POWER CONSUMPTION. UH, I BELIEVE ANYTIME A FACILITY IS OVER FIVE MEGAWATTS OR SOME OTHER PRESCRIBED VALUE, UH, I THINK THERE'S VALUE IN TRIGGERING A REVIEW BY THE CITY TO IDENTIFY IF THIS IS ACTUALLY A CRYPTOCURRENCY FACILITY OR A DATA CENTER FACILITY. UH, IT MIGHT FIT THAT DEFINITION PURELY BASED ON POWER CONSUMPTION ALONE. I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY COME UP WITH SOMETHING SIMILAR, UM, ALTHOUGH MAYBE NOT AS EFFECTIVE RELATED TO METRIC TONS OF COOLING, UH, CAPABILITY, WHETHER THAT BE CHILLER, HVAC OR, UH, ALL OF THESE FACILITIES NEED COOLING OF SOME FORM, WHETHER IT BE LIQUID OR AIR, FORCED AIR. UM, YOU CAN ALSO PUT SOME TRIP WIRES UP TO CATCH, UH, IN THOSE AREAS AS WELL. ANOTHER POSSIBILITY, UH, ANOTHER THING I WOULD ALSO MAYBE THROW OUT THERE, UH, ONLY BECAUSE OF BEHAVIORS WE'VE SEEN IN, UM, AROUND THE COUNTRY LATELY BECAUSE OF AVAILABILITY OF POWER IN THE DEMAND THAT THAT DRIVES. WE SEE A LOT OF PLACES THAT WILL INSTALL GENERATORS AND RUN GENERATORS NOT WITH THE INTENT OF THAT BEING AN EMERGENCY BACKUP FACILITY, BUT THAT BEING THEIR PRIMARY GENERATION FACILITY, UH, OR PRIMARY GENER GENERATION CAPABILITY. UH, AND I THINK THE, THE CITY SHOULD TRY TO PUT SOME STRONG WORDING, UH, TO AVOID THAT EITHER AS A STOPGAP MEASURE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET POWER CONNECTED ON TIME, UM, OR AS A REGULAR OPERATING MODE OF WE CAN'T GET 10 MEGAWATTS, SO I'M GONNA INSTALL SIX MEGAWATTS WORTH OF GENERATORS AND GET WHAT I CAN FROM THE GRID. UH, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY, AT LEAST IN A CITY LIKE COPPEL, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY EXCESSIVELY BURDENSOME ON THE COMMUNITY FROM A NOISE AND FROM A FOOTPRINT STANDPOINT, UM, JUST SOME THINGS TO LOOK OUT FOR. SO WOULD, WOULD THE RECOMMENDATION BE FOR THE GENERATORS THAT THEY'D HAVE TO PRODUCE A MINIMUM, UH, WATTAGE CONSUMPTION AS WELL? YEAH, I THINK ONCE THEY HIT OVER A CERTAIN LEVEL, UH, [00:50:01] THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE IT'S A DATA CENTER OR IT'S A CRYPTOCURRENCY. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU GET OVER FIVE, 10 MEGAWATTS AND THERE'S NOT MANY OTHER BUSINESSES THEY'RE GONNA CONSUME THAT. UM, SO THEY COULD TRY TO SAY, OH, I'M NOT A DATA CENTER. THIS IS, THIS IS A HOUSE THAT I'VE CONVERTED TO A SERVER FARM OR WHATEVER THEY CAN, THEY'RE STILL GONNA TRIP OVER THAT POWER WIRE SOONER OR LATER. UM, AND IS LIKE, BASED ON OUR DISCUSSION DURING WORK SESSION, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE FACILITY IS LESS IMPORTANT THAN THE, THE WATTAGE OF, UH, ELECTRICAL NEED AND USE. CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT BECAUSE AS AS, AS TRANSISTOR DENSITY CONTINUES TO GET SMALLER AND SMALLER AND AS COOLING TECHNOLOGY, PARTICULARLY LIQUID COOLING AND LIQUID COOLING AGENTS GET BETTER AND MORE EFFECTIVE, THOSE FOOTPRINTS ARE GONNA GET SMALLER AND SMALLER. UM, AND THE EFFECTIVENESS OF COOLING IS GONNA GET SMALLER AND SMALLER, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU CAN'T BREAK THE LAWS OF PHYSICS, THE POWER CONSUMPTION IS STILL GONNA BE THERE. IT'S STILL GONNA GO UP. UH, ONE OTHER KIND THING I WOULD RECOMMEND THROWING IN AS WELL IS, UH, A DEFINITION OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND INCLUDING THAT IN THE DATA CENTER DEFINITION TO INCLUDE THE USE AS AI OR HOW, HOW WOULD THAT RECOMMENDATION TRANSLATE INTO OUR DEFINITION? YEAH, WELL I THINK ARTIFICIAL INTE INTE INTELLIGENCE CAN SLIP THROUGH. IT'S NOT REALLY A DATA, IT'S NOT REALLY DATA, IT'S NOT REALLY A DATA FARM. IT'S MORE LIKE A DATA SERVICE. OKAY. UH, AND SO I THINK IF YOU CAN DEFINE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, INTELLIGENCE AS A DATA SERVICE, YOU'RE CAPTURING A PIECE OF THAT THAT OTHERWISE MIGHT SLIP THROUGH YOUR DEFINITION, THAT'S EASY ENOUGH TO DO. WE CAN DO THAT. GREAT STUFF. JOHN, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, UH, BY THE COMMISSION? BISHOP, CINDY? THANKS. I I HAD A QUESTION ON THE DEFINITION OF CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY. UM, IN, IN THE BACKGROUND YOU MENTIONED THAT A CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY CAN, CAN BE TURNED OFF SO IT'S NOT OPERATING CONTINUOUSLY. YOU, YOU CAN STOP IT, BUT IT, BUT IN THIS DEFINITION HERE, IT DOES MENTION CONTINUOUS 24 7 365, RIGHT? YEAH. SO I, I WAS JUST LOOKING UP WHAT THE DIFFERENT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CRYPTO. SORRY, I WAS JUST LOOKING UP WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS. UH, YOU KNOW, I BASICALLY, I DID A GOOGLE SEARCH, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CRYPTOCURRENCY, MINING AND DATA CENTER? AND SO YEAH, I THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE GENERAL DEFINITION OR GENERAL, UH, DIFFERENCE IS, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IN MY DEFINITION IT DOES, DOES SAY THAT IT'S ONGOING. YEAH. SO I THINK IT MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE IF WE DELETED THAT PHRASE, CONTINUOUS 24 7, 365 BASE LOAD ELECTRICITY CONSUMPTION BECAUSE THEY CAN BE UNPLUGGED. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT USED. THEY, THEY POTENTIALLY, THEY POTENTIALLY WON'T BE USED CONTINUOUSLY. SO I DON'T WANT 'EM TO FALL OUTSIDE THIS DEFINITION. OH, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY GOOD. YEP. I THINK WE CAN DELETE THAT. OKAY. THANKS. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS BY THE COMMISSION? I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THIS IS A, OH, I'M SORRY. SORRY. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION OR I GUESS WE'VE DEFINED CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY. WE'VE DEFINED DATA CENTER, BUT JOHN SORT OF MENTIONED THAT THERE'S OTHER VOCABULARY, AND I ALMOST LIKE THE PREVIOUS TERM OF TECHNOLOGY FACILITY BECAUSE CHANGE THE VOCABULARY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO DO WITH TECHNOLOGY AT THE END OF THE DAY. I THINK THE TECHNOLOGY BECOMES A BIT OF A CATCHALL TO SAY, THIS ISN'T, THIS ISN'T IF, IF SOMEBODY CAN COME AND SAY, THIS IS NOT DATA CENTER, THIS IS NOT CRYPTOCURRENCY AND THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE, AND LIKE THE PARAMETERS OF THE POWER AND STUFF. BUT IT, I DON'T KNOW. IT JUST, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO, WE'VE DEFINED TWO THINGS, BUT WHAT'S THE NEXT THING AND WHAT'S THE NEXT THING, RIGHT? AND, AND IF IT FALLS OUTSIDE THIS DEFINITION AND WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC USE THAT IT FALLS WITHIN, THEN WE BRING IT FOR A, A NEW USE DEFINITION THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. OKAY. SO IF IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY IT'S FINE, THEN IT HAS TO COME THROUGH ANYWAYS. TO YOUR POINT, TO YOUR POINT, UH, [00:55:01] POSSIBLY BUILDING A, A PLANT TO BUILD ROBOTICS COULD BE A POSSIBILITY FOR A NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT'S NOT UNDER CONSIDERATION HERE. CORRECT. IT FITS UNDER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, BUT RIGHT. WELL, I, I THINK THAT USE IS ALREADY DEFINED WITHIN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, ASSEMBLING, UH, COMPUTER, YOU KNOW, PARTS, THINGS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I THINK WE COULD ALLOW THAT USE BY RIGHT. BUT I THINK YOU WERE TRYING TO GIVE ONE THAT MAYBE ISN'T INCLUDED WITHIN OUR BY RIGHT. DEFINITIONS. YES. SO, UH, SO YEAH, I, I SEE THE POINT. IF WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC USE THAT'S, THAT A NEW USE FALLS WITHIN, THEN WE BRING IT FORWARD AS A NEW USE FOR YOU GUYS TO DEFINE AS REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR NOT. AND ONE, ONE LASTLY, THE THING IS, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN WORK SESSION, THIS INDUSTRY THAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO REGULATE NOW IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MONITOR IT AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BRING YOU SOME, MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES AS THINGS PROGRESS, UH, AS POWER SOURCES MAY CHANGE. UH, THE SIZE OF THE FACILITIES ARE DEFINITELY, UH, NOT WHAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT THEY WERE, BUT EVEN SMALLER. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CONSTANTLY MONITOR AND WE WILL BE BACK BEFORE YOU WITH SOME, MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT IN THIS, IN THIS REALM. SO, OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MAHER? YES. SO IN TERMS OF THE DEFINITION, SO THE QUE QUESTION NINE THAT I HAD IN, UH, WORK SESSION WAS, UM, I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARITY ON THE PRIMARY USE COMMENT BECAUSE, UM, AND HOW THAT'S, UM, AND ONE I GUESS SHOULD THAT BE CAPITALIZED AND DOES THAT PROTECT ESSENTIALLY FROM, UH, PULLING IN ALMOST EVERY BUSINESS? BECAUSE YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN FREEPORT, MANY OF THEM I'M SURE HAVE COMPUTER STORAGE, YOU KNOW, WEB HOSTING AND SO FORTH. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE SOME SORT OF TECHNOLOGY. THEY PROBABLY ALL HAVE EMERGENCY BACKUP GENERATORS. SO WE ARE, WE EFFECTIVELY, UM, MY QUESTION IS, DOES THE PRIMARY USE, UM, PREVENT THIS FROM BASICALLY CAUSING ALMOST EVERY BUSINESS TO COME THROUGH WITH AN SVP NOW? RIGHT. AND THAT WAS THE INTENT OF INCLUDING IT AS A PRIMARY USE? YEAH, I, I THINK AS WE GO ALONG, UH, THERE, THERE IS OBVIOUSLY COPELLA HAS ENJOYED HOSTING A NUMBER OF, UH, UH, CALL CENTERS, UH, FULFILLMENT CENTERS. THEY ALL HAVE COMPUTERS, WE KNOW THAT. BUT THAT'S NOT THEIR PRIMARY USE. THEIR PRIMARY USE IS LIKE NAPA WE HAVE IN TOWN IS DELIVERING AUTO PARTS. THEY HAVE SERVERS. SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CAPTURE THOSE. AND IF THEY CAME IN, I THINK MATT COULD ADDRESS THAT. BUT WHERE SOME, LIKE WE HAD A CALL CENTER, UH, THEY'RE REALLY, THEY CALLED IT A CALL CENTER, BUT WE WOULD NOW CALL THAT A DATA CENTER. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO CAPTURE. GOT IT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE COMMISSION? OKAY, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED, UH, AMENDMENTS TO OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE? OKAY. SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY FINAL DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION? ? ANYBODY WANNA TAKE A CRACK AT A, AT A MOTION? UH, I'LL, I'LL PUT ONE OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAPTURED IT ALL, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE SUP PROCESS IS THE WAY TO GO, PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH CHANGES IN TECHNOLOGY, TECHNOLOGY SO FAST. WE WANNA UNDERSTAND PROPOSALS, WE WANNA UNDERSTAND THE ABILITY TO, TO, TO RECEIVE THESE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS AND HOW THEY, THEY MAY BE BENEFICIAL FOR US POTENTIALLY. UM, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY TO UNDERSTAND POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS. SO I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE, THE AMENDMENTS AS PRESENTED BY STAFF, UH, WITH THE FOLLOWING, UH, ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS, SOME PERFORMANCE METRICS. UM, AND THIS IS TO EFFECTIVELY CAPTURE TECHNOLOGY AND THE FAC AND THE FACILITIES THAT THEY'RE HOUSED IN. UH, PERFORMANCE METRICS OF POWER CONSUMPTION, UH, COOLING METRIC, TONS OF COOLING, WHETHER LIQUID OR FORCED AIR. AND THE METHOD OF GEN OF, UH, POWER GENERATION, WHETHER IT'S GENERATORS, NUMBER OF GENERATORS, THINGS LIKE THAT. THEN TO ALSO INCLUDE A DEFINITION OF, UH, WHAT IS AI AND TO INCLUDE THAT IT, THAT IT ALSO INCLUDES DATA SERVICE AS PART OF THE DEFINITION. AND THEN WITH REGARDS TO THE DEFINITIONS, UM, IN THE CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING TO, [01:00:01] UM, AMEND TO REMOVE THE DEFINITION OF THE, THE CONTINUOUS BASE LOAD OF POWER SO THAT WE'RE NOT, UH, SO THAT SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE, IT GETS THROUGH UNDER UNDERNEATH, UH, REQUIREMENTS THERE. AND THEN TO ADD ANOTHER CONSIDERATION WITH REGARDS TO, UM, BUSINESSES UNNECESSARILY BEING PULLED IN. BUT I THINK THAT'S COVERED BY THE SUP, IS THAT CORRECT, MATT? YEAH, THAT'S COVERED BY THE PRIMARY. OKAY. SO STRIKE THAT LAST ONE. . SO THAT IS MY MOTION , UH, AS PRESENTED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. WOW. I'LL SECOND THAT. , I THINK, I THINK CINDY CAUGHT IT. YES. FIRST. SO, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BISHOP. SO, UH, WITH THAT KAMI, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLE? PLEASE, PLEASE RESPOND BY SAYING IRONIZED. I CALL YOUR NAME. COMMISSIONER MATTEL. AYE. COMMISSIONER DOB MEYER. AYE. VICE CHAIR SHIP. AYE. CHAIRMAN HAAS AYE. COMMISSIONER MAUER. AYE. COMMISSIONER HAMAN. AYE. COMMISSIONER BISHOP? AYE. I'LL APPROVE. NONE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. [8. Update on City Council items.] ITEM EIGHT ON THE AGENDA IS UPDATE, UH, OF CITY COUNCIL ITEMS. WE REVIEW REVIEWED THOSE IN PRE-SESSION. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS OTHER THAN, UH, WE WILL BE BEGINNING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. UH, SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO, UM, BEING A PART OF THAT, UH, THAT WHOLE PROCESS, HOW THAT'LL BE THE FOOTPRINT FOR GUIDING OUR COMMUNITY FORWARD THROUGH THE YEARS, UH, 2040 AND BEYOND. SO WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS, I WILL ADJOURN OUR MEETING. UH, THE TIME IS, UH, 7 0 4. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.