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GOOD EVENING. THIS IS THE SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2026 MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
[1. Call To Order]
THE TIME IS 6:00. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS ITEM ONE IS TO, I'M SORRY, ITEM TWO IS TO CONVENE INTO WORK SESSION WHERE WE'LL REVIEW THE[2. Work Session (Open to the Public) a. Discussion of agenda items.]
CASES. WE WILL THEN RECONVENE INTO GENERAL SESSION AT 6:30.SO WITH THAT, I'LL, I'LL CONVENE INTO OUR WORK SESSION.
THE WORK SESSION. WE'LL START WITH THE ROLL CALL THIS EVENING.
I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMISSION EDMUND HAAS. OKAY.
COMMISSION MEMBERS VICE CHAIR SUE BLANKENSHIP. PRESENT. SAMIT PATEL.
HERE. KENT HAFEMANN. HERE. ED MAURER. PRESENT.
CINDY BISHOP. HERE. OH. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.
HI CINDY [LAUGHS] AND JOHN DOBMEIER. PRESENT.
AND, MARY, WOULD YOU INTRODUCE STAFF? AND THEN REVIEW THE CASES.
ALL RIGHT. SO MYSELF, MARY PARON-BOSWELL, MR. MATT STEER THEY'RE NOT HERE. MR. BOB HAGER AND MISS KAMI MCGEE.
SO ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING YOUR FIRST FIRST CASE IS THE PLAT, THE OAM ADDITION. SO ESSENTIALLY THIS IS ON HOWELL STREET.
ORIGINALLY, THIS WAS PLATTED BACK IN THE LIKE 1961 OR SO.
AT SOME POINT IN TIME, MANY OF THOSE LOTS ON THAT STREET AND THE ADJACENT STREET SEEM TO HAVE BEEN SUBDIVIDED BY METES AND BOUNDS AND NOT BY RE PLAT. SO THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS WHEN YOU LOOK ON THE RECORDS SAYS IT'S PART OF LOT 13 AND PART OF LOT 14. SO THE HOUSE HAS BEEN TORN DOWN THAT WAS ON THERE.
AND HE'S JUST SIMPLY REPLATTING IT TO CREATE A LEGAL LOT SO THEY CAN BUILD A NEW HOUSE.
PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. ANY QUESTIONS? YOU KNOW, OUR ATTORNEY REVIEW IT.
HE'S GOOD. NOW, I DID NOT GO OUT AND TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS.
IS IS THIS THE TYPE OF ITEM THAT WE WE WOULD SOLICIT COMMENTS AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON? NO, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY OTHER MEDICATIONS OR ANYTHING TO TRIGGER THOSE.
AS PART, AND TODAY, WE'RE NOT HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.
NO, IT'S JUST A REPLAT, NOT A REZONE. YEAH. CORRECT.
IS GONE. OH, IT'S BEEN RECENTLY TORN DOWN. I BELIEVE SO, YEAH.
YOU DIDN'T DRIVE OUT THERE? NO, I DID NOT DRIVE OUT THERE.
YEAH. I NEVER DO THAT. NO, NO. SO. SO IF IT DOES GET APPROVED TONIGHT THEN WE ARE GOING TO MAIL THE NOTICE THAT IT'S BEEN APPROVED TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WITHIN 200FT.
IT'S A BASICALLY A NEW REQUIREMENT BY THE STATE THAT REQUIRES THAT.
SO. OKAY. THEN THE NEXT CASE IS THE TEXT CHANGE AMENDMENTS.
BASICALLY IT'S TWO TWO SEPARATE TEXT AMENDMENTS.
ALTHOUGH WE DO SAY THERE'S SEVEN JUST BECAUSE TECHNICALLY THERE'S SEVEN.
THE FIRST RELATES TO CONCRETE BATCHING PLANT TEMPORARY.
AND SO WE PUT THAT IN AS A USE THAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT BECAUSE IT WAS INFERENCED.
THAT WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S GREATER THAN SIX MONTHS, IT REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
AND THEN WE SET UP PARAMETERS FOR HOW MANY CONSECUTIVE TEMPORARY BATCH PLANTS YOU CAN HAVE.
SO BASICALLY WE SAID THE SIX MONTH TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT STARTS AT THE FIRST DAY OF PERMIT.
THEN YOU CAN HAVE ONE FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN 180 DAYS FROM THAT TIME OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THAT PERMIT, YOU CAN HAVE ANOTHER ONE. SO ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW MAYBE THREE OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD ON A PARTICULAR PIECE.
YOU JUST CAN'T GO BACK TO BACK TO BACK, RIGHT.
AND THEN 90 DAYS LATER, THEY COULD REAPPLY FOR ANOTHER ONE.
AND WE DID THAT SO THAT THERE'S SEPARATION SO THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE WHAT I'D CALL A CREEPING USE ON THAT PROPERTY, AND THEN MATURATE INTO A PERMANENT ONE WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
WE DO HAVE A PROVISION THAT ALLOWS FOR THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO EXTEND IT IF, SAY, THEY HAVE JUSTIFICATION FOR MAYBE A PROJECT THAT MIGHT THEY MIGHT NEED A WEEK OR TWO MORE.
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SO IT GIVES HER THE DISCRETION TO CONTINUE IT.I ONLY NEED TEN MORE DAYS. OTHERWISE I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU ANOTHER ANOTHER 90.
THE ONE, IF YOU RECALL, THE ONE THAT WAS BEFORE US BACK IN WHAT, TWO MONTHS AGO? YEAH. JULY, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID, WELL, REALLY, WE REALLY NEED THIS BECAUSE WE'RE DOING WORK ON I-35 FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT, ON THAT PROJECT. SO IF IT'S PROJECTS SPECIFIC IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TYPE OF TEMPORARY OR TRUE TEMPORARY USE.
BUT WE PUT THAT IN THERE JUST JUST FOR CLARIFICATION SAKE.
SO IF SOMEONE SAYS, HEY, THERE'S ONE OVER HERE, RIGHT? WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE WE DO. WE DO HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW.
WHERE? DO, WE, ON NORTH POINT WE'RE DOING IT FOR ROYAL LANE RECONSTRUCTION.
SO. OH YEAH. YEAH. SO THE NEXT SECTION OR THE NEXT PART OF THE CODE AMENDMENTS RELATE TO TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FACILITY, BATCH PLANT AND CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITIES.
SO WE LOOKED AT OUR DEFINITION OF TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FACILITY.
AND IT'S NOT REALLY UP TO TODAY'S STANDARD FOR WHAT WOULD COVER A BATCH PLANT.
SO DATA CENTER IS THAT THE SAME THING? YEAH, I MEANT DATA CENTER.
BUT ANYWAY, SO WE'RE DELETING TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FACILITY AND WE'RE ADDING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT FOR DATA CENTER AND FOR CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY. WE WENT.
ANY INQUIRIES TO DATE ON CRYPTOCURRENCY OR DATA CENTERS? NO. NOTHING. YEAH. WHAT LED TO THIS WAS THE OLD IBM CALL CENTER.
IT'S BACK ON THE MARKET, AND THEY WERE MARKETING AS A DATA CENTER.
SO WE DISCOVERED THAT AMIDST WHEN WE WERE IN THE PROCESS.
SO ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVEN'T HAD ANYONE COME IN AND SAY THEY WANTED TO DO A, A BATCH PLANT OR NOT A BATCH PLANT, A DATA CENTER. YOU KNOW, OR SUBMIT PLANS FOR ONE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
ARE WE PRO DATA CENTERS, ARE WE ANTI DATA CENTERS OR ARE WE NEUTRAL DATA CENTERS? WE'RE REALLY WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE REALLY NEUTRAL ANTI COMMUNITY IMPACT.
YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE. YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT A VERY GOOD CANDIDATE FOR THIS.
I REPRESENT RED OAK AND WE HAVE A LOT OF DATA CENTERS.
AND I'VE LEARNED MORE ABOUT THEM THAN I WANTED TO KNOW.
BUT IT IS IT IS IMPORTANT. THEY LIKE A LOT OF SECURITY.
THEY LIKE THEIR FACILITY. SO YOU CANNOT REALLY SEE IT FROM THE ROAD FOR SECURITY REASONS.
AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF PROPERTY IN SIZE.
THEY'RE HUGE MILLIONS OF SQUARE FEET OF SPACE.
AND TEAR DOWN [INAUDIBLE] AND YEAH, AND THAT'S IN LEWISVILLE.
YEAH. SO I THINK YOU CAN SNEAK THEM IN IN A LOT OF PLACES THOUGH.
YEAH. AND THEY MAY, THEY MAY LOOK TO TRY TO SNEAK THROUGH THE DOOR.
THAT'S WHY MATT AND I, BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE A LOT OF SMALL ONES.
THEY LIKE ONE BIG ONE, BUT THEY MAY GO TO A SMALLER.
SOME OF THEM STARTED GOING TO THESE MICRO SIZED ONES.
IT'S THE SIZE OF A RESIDENTIAL LOT. YEAH. I MEAN, THIS IS A SPACE I WORK IN, SO I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR.
I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA. I WOULD SAY IF YOU WANT TO REALLY PROTECT THE COMMUNITY, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU CAN PUT AS GATES.
OKAY. ONE IS A LOT OF POWER CONSUMPTION. HOW MUCH POWER CONSUMPTION IS THE FACILITY GOING TO USE? IF THEY'RE TALKING TEN MEGAWATTS OR MORE IT'S PROBABLY WHAT WE WOULD CALL A DATA CENTER.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD REALLY BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR, REALLY BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR IS, ARE YOU USING GENERATORS AS POWER GENERATION ON SITE? RIGHT. BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PLACES, THEY HAVE A REAL NEGATIVE COMMUNITY IMPACT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET THE POWER THEY NEED.
SO THEY BUILD 15 GENERATORS ALONG THE SIDE AND THEY RUN THOSE GENERATORS ALL DAY LONG.
AND THAT'S WHAT PRODUCES THE NOISE NOISE NUISANCE.
SO IF YOU COULD SAY, HEY, IF YOU'RE USING A GENERATOR AS PRIMARY POWER OR USING A GENERATOR CONSTANTLY TO PRODUCE POWER, YOU OUGHT TO FIT IN A DIFFERENT CATEGORY ALTOGETHER THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
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TYPICALLY THEY ARE. SOMETIMES THEY'RE NATURAL GAS. BUT ACTUALLY A LOT OF THE BIGGER ONES NOW THEY'RE RUNNING NATURAL GAS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE TRUCK COME REFILL IT.THOSE ARE VERY NOISY. THOSE ARE REALLY GOOD DEFINITIONS.
BUT IN TERMS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, HOW WOULD YOU DEFINE THAT? WHAT WOULD YOU CONSIDER LARGE? WELL, I THINK SOME OF THE SOME OF THE ORDINANCES THAT I HAVE SEEN OVER THE OVER TIME ARE MEGAWATT DROPPING, DRIVEN, NOT DRIVEN BY ANYTHING OTHER THAN MEGAWATT USAGE.
IT CHANGES NEXT WEEK. IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY.
AND SERVER DENSITY IS GETTING IS GOING MUCH, MUCH HIGHER.
SO WHAT USED TO TAKE FOUR SERVERS IN A, IN A 72 INCH RACK, YOU KNOW, NOW IT'S 12.
NEXT GENERATION IS GOING TO BE 24. SO THE DENSITY IS GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER, WHICH MEANS THE, YOU KNOW, THE COOLING REQUIREMENT IS GOING TO GO UP AND THE POWER IS GOING TO GO UP.
PUT A CIRCLE AROUND POWER GENERATION. IS IT ALSO A FACTOR OF WATER USAGE? THERE IS. WATER IS, WATER IS AN ISSUE. BUT I THINK A LOT OF THE HYSTERIA THAT'S BEING GENERATED ABOUT WATER IS JUST THAT IT'S HYSTERIA.
IT'S LIKE IT'S GENERATED BY OUTSIDE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT US TO HAVE DATA CENTERS AT ALL.
BECAUSE THE REALITY OF WATER CONSUMPTION IS, IT'S KIND OF LIKE HAVING A POOL.
IF YOU BUILD A POOL, YOU'RE GOING TO CONSUME A LOT OF WATER WHEN YOU FILL THE POOL. BUT AFTER THAT, YOU DON'T CONSUME THAT MUCH WATER. MOST OF THESE LIQUID COOLED UNITS, MOST OF THESE LIQUID COOLED FACILITIES, IT'S A CLOSED SYSTEM.
IN FACT, IT'S A LOT OF WATER, BUT IT'S MOSTLY PROPYLENE GLYCOL.
IT'S RIDICULOUS HYSTERIA. ACTUALLY IT WAS TRUE A YEAR AND A HALF OR TWO YEARS AGO.
IT WAS. YEAH IT WAS. YEAH. IT'S NO LONGER TRUE.
THE EARLIER VERSIONS, THE ONES I SAW WERE, WERE, WERE HIGH WATER USE, HIGH WATER USE BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T USING AN ANTIFREEZE OR A COAGULANT TYPE AND THE WATER WAS EVAPORATING AND THEY HAVE TO STEAM THAT OFF.
RIGHT. THAT'S BEEN THAT'S BEEN THAT'S SOLVED EIGHT YEARS AGO.
YEAH. SO THAT'S CORRECT. AS TECHNOLOGY CHANGES, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, A MICRO.
THE SMALLER ONES COULD THESE THINGS START TO GET SO SMALL THAT THEY COULD BE HIDDEN INSIDE? YES. YES. 100%. A HOUSE THAT LOOKS LIKE A HOUSE.
YES, ABSOLUTELY. AND SO THOSE ARE ALREADY OUT THERE ACTUALLY.
YEAH. THERE'S, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT, A LOT OF THE TELECOMMUNICATION PROVIDERS STILL DO LIKE AT&T, VERIZON. THEY WILL GO INTO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, BUY A HOUSE, FORTIFY THE ENTIRE HOUSE AND PUT A CENTRAL OFFICE IN A, IN A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE. THEY'VE DONE IT MILLIONS OF TIMES.
YEAH. NOT HERE. OKAY. MATT, JUST JUST A GOOD DISCUSSION THOUGH.
YEAH, YEAH. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO WE DID LOOK AT THE MEGA DATA CENTERS.
SO THAT GIVES COUNCIL THE DISCRETION. AND THEN WE WE BROKE CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITIES OUT BECAUSE THOSE ARE DIFFERENT USES, ALTHOUGH THEY DO LOOK VERY MUCH THE SAME AND ACT THE SAME.
AND SO ANYWAY, I THINK WHAT I MY ONLY ISSUE IS WHEN I READ THIS, I READ THAT THE DEFINITION OF DATA CENTER WAS A LITTLE VAGUE AND A LITTLE BROAD. AND I JUST REMEMBER THINKING THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL ONE WAS VAGUE AND WAS BROAD.
BUT THEN WE, WE'VE DEFINED IT, WE'VE TAKEN WHAT FOR FORT WORTH DID.
I LIKE THE SUP APPROACH BECAUSE THEN WE CAN AT LEAST HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON.
EXACTLY. IT COMES THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND THEN WE CAN.
RIGHT. AND AND WE CAN LOOK AT THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY, SEE IF IT'S IF IT'S CENTERED IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND THERE'S NO NOISE POLLUTION, THEY CREATE ALL THEIR ELECTRICITY ON SITE AND THEY HAVE A CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, THEN IT'S UP TO COUNCIL, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT REALLY IMPACTING ANYONE.
SO WE WANT TO ALLOW THAT DISCRETION, COUNCIL TO HAVE THAT DISCRETION HERE.
THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. CINDY'S BEEN PATIENTLY WAITING HERE.
CINDY. FIRE AWAY. SO IF WE HAVE A SPECIFIC COMMENT ON THE DEFINITION, DO WE.
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IS THIS NOT THE PROPER VENUE? DO WE WAIT TILL WE'RE OUT THERE TO.WE SHOULD PROBABLY ADDRESS IT OUT THERE. OKAY. BUT AT LEAST WE'RE KIND OF HITTING THE HIGHLIGHTS SO WE CAN FIND OUT. AND THEN IF YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION, JUST MAKE IT OUT THERE AND WE'LL INCLUDE IT. IF SOMEONE MAKES A MOTION TO DO IT AND SAY, YOU WANT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, ADD IT IN, WE'LL ADD IT IN, AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU WANT TO TWEAK, WE'LL TWEAK IT AND TAKE IT TO COUNCIL.
RIGHT. OBSOLETE BY THE TIME IT GETS COUNCIL. YEAH [LAUGHS] THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS TRYING TO STAY AHEAD OF NEW TECHNOLOGY IN THIS WHOLE AREA OF COMPUTERS AND ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
IT'S LIKE BUYING STEREO EQUIPMENT. AND BY THE TIME YOU BUY IT AND GET IT DELIVERED, IT'S IT'S.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY. ALL RIGHT.
PROCESS. SO LIKE IF VERIZON HAS A, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEIR CENTRAL CENTRAL OFFICES OR, AND THEY WANT TO EITHER BUILD ONE OR MOVE IT OR. IF THEY EXPAND THEIR USE. YEAH. AND THEY WOULD NEED TO COME THROUGH THE PROCESS.
WHAT I WORRY ABOUT IS I WORRY ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO ALREADY HAS A FACILITY AND THEY DECIDE, HEY, I'M GOING TO START HOSTING HERE. I DON'T HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES TO MY BUILDING BECAUSE.
WOULDN'T THE POWER. BUT THERE'S NOT AN INCREASE IN POWER.
THERE'S NOT A POWER WIRE FOR THEM TO TRIP OVER HERE.
RIGHT. YEAH. IF THEY'RE NOT EXPANDING THE USE.
YEAH. BUT IF THEY START ASKING FOR INSIDE GENERATORS.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO QUESTION WHAT ARE THEY DOING. PERHAPS.
YEAH. OR BUT BUT BUT THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT IF THEY JUST IF THEY JUST WENT TO ONCOR AND SAID, HEY, ONCOR I NEED A 15 MEGAWATT CIRCUIT. YOU WOULDN'T KNOW ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
EXCEPT FOR. WHAT ABOUT ERCOT WITH THESE GUYS? BECAUSE THE ONES I'VE SEEN GOT TO GET APPROVED, APPROVED. NOW, PROBABLY BEFORE IT'LL PROBABLY BE IN JANUARY.
IT WAS JUNE, AND YOU HAD TO HAVE YOUR ZONING AND YOU HAD TO HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT.
THEY WENT TO THE BACK OF THE BUS FOR ERCOT. AND SO WE'RE BACK AHEAD OF THAT.
BUT IF YOU GUYS HAVE, ESPECIALLY JOHN, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE JUST HAVE TO CONSTANTLY MONITOR.
BUT WE'VE GOT SOME CITIZENS WHO HAVE CONTACTED THE COUNCIL MORE FEARFUL BECAUSE THE IBM.
THAT'S WHY I LIKE I LIKE THE IDEA OF PUTTING A PUTTING A CIRCLE OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF POWER.
IT CAN GET SMALLER AND THEY CAN HIDE AND THEY CAN DO WHATEVER. BUT IF THEY GOT TO HAVE THE POWER, THEY HAVE THE POWER, THEY'RE GOING TO TRIP OVER THAT WIRE EVERY TIME. I NOW UNDERSTAND WHY THEY USE THAT MEGAWATT MATRIX AND SOME OF THE ORDINANCES THAT I SAW.
YEAH, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO STEP THAT.
YEAH. OKAY. WELL, I'LL GET YOU THAT STUFF. OKAY.
IF THEY WANT TO DO IT, LET'S GET SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS.
IF WE NEED TO AMEND IT, WE'LL AMEND IT. ALL RIGHT.
OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE MA'AM? DID YOU FINISH THAT? NO, THERE'S ONLY LIKE THREE [LAUGHS]. OH, OKAY.
OKAY, OKAY. WELL, ESSENTIALLY THAT'S THAT'S THE BIG, BIG CHANGES.
AND MATT AND I WILL CERTAINLY INCLUDE THEM. BUT MATT AND I WILL BUILD THE MEGAWATT MATRIX, AND WE MAY PROPOSE THAT AT THE COUNCIL. OKAY.
ANOTHER THING YOU YOU MAY HAVE SEEN PREVIOUSLY IS SOMETIMES THEY'LL THEY'LL STEP IN ON ON TONS OF HVAC ALSO, YOU CAN GET THEM THAT WAY ALSO BECAUSE WHETHER IT'S LIQUID COOLED OR AIR COOLED OR WHATEVER, IT'S GENERALLY TONS OF HVAC REQUIRED. HOW MUCH COOLING? HOW MUCH COOLING DO YOU NEED? YEAH. OR WHAT ABOUT NET INCREASE IN POWER CONSUMPTION? LIKE YOU'RE AT A CURTAIN. HISTORICALLY, YOU'VE BEEN HERE ALL OF A SUDDEN, HERE'S A MASSIVE SPIKE THAT IT STAYS.
I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. I MEAN, AGAIN, I THINK THE CLEANEST WAY IS TO PUT A IF YOU'RE SUCKING THAT MUCH POWER, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU ARE, YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING. YEAH. OKAY.
CAN'T CAN'T GET AWAY FROM THAT. BUT THE CITY CAN'T.
I MEAN, THE CITY DOESN'T GO TO ONCOR AND GO, HEY, DID YOU HAVE ANY NEW USES? YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THE CITY REGULATE THAT? THEY CAN'T. WELL, AND WE HAVE SO MANY IN RED OAK, THEY HAD TO HAVE A SUBSTATION. ERCOT HAD TO AUTHORIZE IT.
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AND THE GOOD NEWS FOR THE CITIZENS IS THEY NOW HAVE ANOTHER POWER SOURCE IN TOWN, BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT POWER STATION, THAT POWER HAS BEEN ALLOCATED TO THEM. YEAH. SO THE COMMUNITY.AND EVEN IF IT'S NOT EVEN IF IT'S NOT HUNDREDS, EVEN IF IT'S NOT HUNDREDS OF MEGAWATTS, THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY FOR AN ELECTRICAL PERMIT JUST TO FORCE A TRANSFORMER, IF NOTHING ELSE.
AND THAT CAN BE YOUR TRIPWIRE INSIDE THE CITY ALSO.
OKAY. SO JOHN, SO THERE'S NO RELIANCE. EXCUSE ME.
SORRY I MISSED ALL THIS. DO YOU SEE ANY BENEFITS OF A DATA CENTER BEING WELCOMED INTO, LET'S SAY, COPPELL? YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE BEING BUILT AND INSTALLED.
THERE'S A TAX BASE THERE THAT'S GOT TO BE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, I WOULD THINK. YEAH, I MEAN, I WORK, SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A FRAME OF REFERENCE. SO I WORK IN THE WORLD'S ACTUALLY THE ONLY AI SERVER REPAIR CENTER IN THE WORLD.
I RUN THAT FACILITY RIGHT OVER HERE IN GRAPEVINE. IT'S NOT FAR AWAY. A SINGLE AI SERVER BOARD JUST ONE, A SINGLE AI SERVER BOARD. IT'S ABOUT THIS BIG HALF $1 MILLION.
WOW. THESE, THESE DATA CENTERS, THESE DATA CENTERS LITERALLY HAVE THOUSANDS OF THEM.
THOSE ARE NUMBERS THAT START WITH. AND THEY HAVE TO BE REPLACED.
IF JOHN CAN FIX THEM AND THEY HAVE A LIFE. AND SO THE PERSONAL PROPERTY AT VALOREM TAX IS, CAN BE, CAN BE GIGANTIC. YES. LIKE, YES, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR.
AND THAT'S WHY RED OAK HAS DONE WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
YEAH, YEAH. AND WE HAVE ALL THAT FARMLAND. AND I KNOW THERE'S A BUNCH OF CITIZENS UPSET, BUT THEY COULD RUN THAT CITY FOR AS LONG AS THOSE DATA CENTERS ARE THERE. AND HAVE FIRST CLASS. MANY OF THESE DATA CENTERS HAVE GOT INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT'S 10 11 FIGURES. ARE YOU GOOD ON THAT? RIGHT.
SO YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH LEFT. BUT THERE ARE SOME PARCELS THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE IT.
WELL, ACTUALLY, WHEN BEN AND I WERE DOING THIS, THE OLD IBM QUOTE CALL CENTER WAS A DATA CENTER BY MODERN TERMINOLOGY, BECAUSE I ALWAYS THOUGHT THEY HAD PEOPLE MANNING THE PHONES AND IT WAS VOICE OVER INTERNET.
I KEEP THINKING OF THOSE PARCELS ADJACENT TO TRIPLE A? YEAH. WE ACTUALLY HAD AN INQUIRY FOR ONE ON A GUY COME AND PITCHED THAT. BUT WITH THAT, THAT WAS YEARS AND YEARS AGO.
OKAY. IF A CALL CENTER, LIKE IF THEY WANTED IF THEY WERE COMING IN NEW, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET A GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE WOULD SEE WHAT IT IS AND WE CAN EVALUATE IT, WHAT IT IS, AND THEY'D HAVE TO GET AN SUP.
IS THAT THE INTENT? YES. JUST BECAUSE OF THE HYSTERIA GOING ON WITH THEM.
WE'VE HAD CITIZENS GOING, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT DATA CENTERS? AND I KEPT SAYING, I DON'T THINK IT'S A REAL PROBLEM FOR US.
BUT AFTER TALKING TO MR. DOBMEIER HERE, I'M GOING IF THEY CAN PUT ONE IN YOUR BACK POCKET AND YEAH, WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT THAT JUST. AND YOU WOULD NORMALLY APPROVE THOSE IF IF EVERYTHING'S FINE AND THEY CAN GET THE POWER.
THEY'RE UNASSUMING. THERE'S ONE IN PLANO ACTUALLY OVER BEHIND WHERE INTUIT IS THAT'S THERE. AND YOU, THERE'S PEOPLE PASSING EVERY DAY HAVE NO CLUE WHAT'S THERE.
AND I KNOW BECAUSE OF THE BARBED WIRE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
THE WATER THING IS, IS NOT REAL, BUT THE, THE GENERATOR IS NOT.
YES, YES. ONE IF THEY'RE GOING TO RUN GENERATORS TO PRODUCE POWER, THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM IN MOST PLACES UNLESS THEY'RE FAR OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE. OURS ARE ALL RUN OUT THERE AND RUN OVER, RUN OFF THE GRID.
IF THE GRID GETS TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, THEY HAVE TO KICK ON THE GENERATOR.
AND GENERATOR. AND IF THOSE ARE RUNNING ALL THE TIME, THAT'S A LOT OF NOISE.
THERE'S NOISE MITIGATION TECHNIQUES THAT THEY CAN FOR SURE.
AND SOMETIMES JUST IF THEY'RE USING AIR OR IF THEY'RE USING CHILLERS FOR COOLING, SOMETIMES THE FANS ON CHILLERS, IF THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE AND, AND IF THEY WANT TO CHEAP OUT AND PUT THEM ALONG THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THOSE WILL GENERATE A LOT OF NOISE AS WELL. IF YOU MAKE THEM, PUT THEM ON THE ROOF, IT'S NOT.
AND THEN PARAPET THE ROOF. THAT'S THAT'S NO PROBLEM.
THAT'S EXACTLY THE STUFF WE WOULD DO TO REGULATE IT.
I MEAN, WE CAN'T PUT THEM ON THE ROOF. I'D REQUIRE THEM TO BE SCREENED.
SO THAT UNDER A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME IN WITH AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS.
I MEAN, IN TERMS OF CRITERIA FOR WHAT WE WOULD LOOK AT FOR APPROVAL, WHAT WOULD THAT BE?
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WELL, SO I WOULD HAVE THEM LOOK AT AT GUIDELINES FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT DO ALLOW THEM BY RIGHT.AND WHAT THEY REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, LIKE FORT WORTH, THEY REQUIRE A CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL.
THEY REQUIRE NOISE MITIGATION YOU KNOW, NO MORE THAN FIVE DECIBELS ABOVE THE AMBIENT NOISE, YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I WOULD HELP THEM GET THEIR APPLICATION RIGHT TO BRING IT FORWARD.
AND, YOU KNOW, LEAVE IT UP TO YOU GUYS AND CITY COUNCIL TO, TO MAKE MAKE THE CALL.
WE DID LIKE WHEN FRACKING WAS A BIG DEAL ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO.
AND SO IT WOULD BE THE SAME KIND OF THING THAT WE'D DONE WITH THEM.
SO THAT'S DONE TOOLS, AND THEN YOU BRING IT FORWARD FOR OUR REVIEW.
YEAH. WELL, WELL, SO I'LL GO THROUGH WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE.
CORRECT. THE FOR AN LEE DISTRICT. I'LL GO THROUGH THAT TONIGHT.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S A LOT OF PLANS, A LOT OF A LOT OF TIME, A VERY TRANSPARENT PROCESS.
AND THEN THESE GUYS ARE PROFESSIONALS. YOU KNOW, THEY'VE DONE THIS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES SO THEY WOULD KNOW THE TRIGGER POINTS AND THEY WOULD KNOW HOW TO SATISFY, YOU KNOW, MAKING ONE FIT IN WITHIN A CITY THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ANY LAND LEFT FOR.
BUT, BUT THAT TRIPLE A PARCEL, THAT WAS A GOOD POINT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THAT'S ALL ZONED LI, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE MY THING IS LIKE IF YOU HAVE, IF IT'S OVERLY BROAD, LIKE SOMETHING IN FREEPORT OR CALL CENTERS OR THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW ALL OF THOSE ARE COMING IN LIKE IT'S, IT IS A BIT OF A LAND USE ISSUE BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING NOW EVERYTHING HAS TO COME THROUGH THIS PROCESS BECAUSE WE CAN'T WRITE THE DEFINITION SPECIFIC ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, TARGET WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO TARGET.
SO THEN ALL THESE OTHER THINGS IN FREEPORT COULD BE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF BUSINESSES THERE.
I THINK IT'S BETTER TO HAVE IT BROAD ENOUGH TO CAPTURE WHAT YOU WANT TO CAPTURE AND IF IT NEEDS TO BE REFINED OVER TIME, I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO THAT. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S NOT OVERLY BROAD RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, THAT'S A GREAT POINT BECAUSE THE COMPANY I WORK FOR, WE DID NOT BUILD A NEW FACILITY.
RIGHT. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEN THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL OBSTACLE TO COME THROUGH.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS HAVE COMMUNITY INPUT.
AND SO IT DOES START TO SORT OF INFRINGE A BIT ON SORT OF LAND USE RIGHTS AND LIKE OVERSTEPPING IN TERMS OF LIKE WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING.
YEAH. AND SO, AND IT COULD PREVENT BUSINESSES FROM THE STATE AND THE STATE.
THE STATE MAY TAKE IT AWAY FROM US ANYHOW. WELL, WELL.
RIGHT. I THINK I THINK IT'S PRUDENT TO, TO LOOK LOOK AT DATA CENTERS AND, AND CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING JUST BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A ENERGY, ENERGY USER AND WATER USE POTENTIALLY WATER. MAYBE NOT, BUT A NOISE GENERATOR, YOU KNOW? SO AND THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE.
AND I THINK THE SENATE BILL OR HOUSE BILL ONE WILL HAVE THE WORD DATA CENTER.
ALL RIGHT. WE GOT A COUPLE MINUTES LEFT. LET'S REVIEW THE CASES FROM CITY COUNCIL.
ANY UPDATE ON COUNCIL ACTIONS ITEM EIGHT ON THE AGENDA? SO WE DID TAKE SHOTS AT SANDY LAKE TO COUNCIL AND THAT WAS APPROVED.
AND WE'LL BE TAKING THE ORDINANCE FOR THAT NEXT WEEK TO COUNCIL.
APPROVED SEVEN TO ZERO. APPROVE SEVEN ZERO. YES IT WAS.
IT DID REQUIRE IT REQUIRED A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE BECAUSE THEY HAD OVER 20% OPPOSITION TOO.
YEAH. SO THAT WAS 20% OF LAND AREA OPPOSITION.
YEAH. HOW MANY HOW MANY VOTED FOR IT OR AGAINST IT? 7-0. I THINK THAT WAS KIND OF IMPORTANT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD A WORD THAT ABOUT ANYBODY.
WHAT'S THE CONCLUSION ON THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL? THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT? THAT WASN'T PART OF THE AGREEMENT. NO, IT'S PART OF THE ZONING.
I THINK AT THIS POINT IT'S NOT WARRANTED. OKAY.
HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOWED UP? ALL OF THEM [LAUGHS].
THEY I THINK THEY REALIZED WHAT THE ISSUES ARE.
AND WHILE THEY WERE DISAPPOINTED, THERE WAS NOT ANY CATCALLING OR ANYTHING.
I THINK IT WAS MORE ACCEPTED THAN UNDERSTOOD THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE AT THIS POINT.
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WE ALREADY HAD ZONING. THE SITE PLAN WAS BETTER THAN WHAT THE CONCEPT PLAN WAS.I THINK THEIR HOPE WAS THAT IT WOULD JUST GO AWAY.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ONE MORE ITEM HERE. MAYOR. YES.
COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN. SO WE JUST MET WITH OUR CONSULTANTS TODAY.
WE HAVE APPROVED CONTRACT WITH KIMLEY-HORN. AND SO WE'LL BE KICKING THAT OFF SHORTLY.
AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ANYWHERE FROM 15 TO 18 MONTH PROCESS.
SO YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE A LITTLE BIT INTO THAT PROCESS.
IT'S A LITTLE NOTE ON THAT. THAT'S PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS AND THE REVIEWING THE PROPOSALS.
THE OTHERS, THEY HAD SOME MATERIAL, BUT KIMLEY-HORN BROUGHT A LOT TO THE TABLE, INCLUDING LEGISLATIVE REVIEW, THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON DOWN IN AUSTIN THAT MIGHT AFFECT SOME OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT.
SO. FOR THE OTHER TWO, DESIGN WORKSHOP ABLE CITIES.
FOR THE OTHER TWO AND THEN THE OTHER. THE OTHERS THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT WAS WESTWOOD AND THE OTHER ONE.
THERE WAS ONE OTHER ONE FROM. NO, THEY WERE FROM LIKE OUT OF OUT OF OUT OF STATE.
YEAH. THE LAST ONE WAS. YEAH. GOOD JOB, YOU GUYS.
ALRIGHTY. QUICK BREAK OR ARE WE GOOD TO GO RIGHT NOW? LET'S DO IT. OKAY, WE'RE GOING IN. OKAY.
[3. Regular Session (Open to the Public)]
ALRIGHTY. THE TIME IS 6:34, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS CONVENING INTO GENERAL SESSION.ITEM THREE ON THE AGENDA IS REVIEWING THE MINUTES OF THE.
I'M SORRY. WHERE IS IT? NUMBER FIVE. OKAY. WE MOVED IT BACK.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY. ITEM FOR CITIZENS APPEARANCE.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA? SEEING NONE AND LOOKING OVER AT KAMI, THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP.
OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE ON THE AGENDA.
[5. 2026-0383 Consider approval of the July 16, 2026, Planning and Zoning meeting minutes.]
THAT IS, TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF OUR MEETING MINUTES FROM OUR JULY 16TH MEETING.ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSION OR IS THERE A MOTION BY THE COMMISSION? I MOVE TO APPROVE.
AYE. VICE CHAIR BLANKENSHIP. AYE. CHAIRMAN HAAS.
AYE. COMMISSIONER MAURER. AYE. COMMISSIONER HAFEMANN.
AYE. AND COMMISSIONER BISHOP. AYE. ALL APPROVED NONE OPPOSED.
MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. ITEM SIX ON THE AGENDA IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE OAM ADDITION LOT ONE,
[6. 2026-0386 Consider approval of the OAM Addition, Lot 1, Block A, Replat (formerly North Lake Estates, Parts of Lot 13 and 14), a replat to merge properties into one lot that was previously combined by metes and bounds in order to create a residential building site, on 0.194 acres of property located on 820 Howell Drive. STAFF REP.: Mary Paron-Boswell]
BLOCK A, THAT BEING A RE PLAT FORMERLY THE NORTH LAKE ESTATES PARK, PARTS OF LOTS 13 AND 14.THIS IS A REPLAT TO MERGE PROPERTIES INTO ONE LOT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY COMBINED BY METES AND BOUNDS, IN ORDER TO CREATE A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING SITE ON 0.194 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 820 HOWELL STREET.
WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY MISS MARY PARON-BOSWELL OF STAFF.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS.
ITEM SIX. SO THIS PROPERTY CONSISTS OF A PORTION OF LOT 13 AND A PORTION OF LOT 14 WITHIN THE NORTH LAKE ESTATES SUBDIVISION. THE ORIGINAL PLAT WAS PLAT, ORIGINAL PLAT WAS RECORDED IN 1961.
AT SOME POINT IN TIME, SOME OF THE LOTS IN THIS SUBDIVISION APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN SUBDIVIDED BY METES AND BOUNDS, AND NOT BY REPLAT. SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE LOTS.
THIS REQUEST IS TO REPLAT THESE TWO PORTIONS INTO ONE WHOLE LOT.
AGAIN, THE HOME THAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE OAM ADDITION LOT ONE, BLOCK A RE PLAT, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ONE THAT ADDITIONAL COMMENTS MAY BE GENERATED UPON DETAIL. BUILDING PERMIT REVIEWS.
THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. OKAY. THANK YOU.
MARY, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BY THE COMMISSION? OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION? IS THERE A MOTION? IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
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OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOFFMAN.IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PATEL.
KAMI WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? PLEASE RESPOND BY SAYING AYE WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME COMMISSIONER PATEL. AYE. COMMISSIONER DOBMEIER. AYE. VICE CHAIR BLANKENSHIP. AYE. CHAIRMAN HAAS. AYE. COMMISSIONER MAURER. AYE. COMMISSIONER HAFEMANN. AYE. COMMISSIONER BISHOP. AYE.
ALL APPROVE NONE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM SEVEN IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
[7. 2026-0387 PUBLIC HEARING: Consider seven text change amendments to the Code of Ordinances, Chapter 12; 1) to amend Article 25, Light Industrial District, of said chapter to add “Concrete Batching Plant (Temporary)” to permitted uses; 2) Delete “Technology Equipment Facility” from permitted uses; 3) to amend Article 30-12 Special Use Permits “LI” Light Industrial to require a Special Use Permit for a “Cryptocurrency Mining Facility” Use; 4) to require a Special Use Permit for a “Data Center” Use; 5) to amend Article 42, Special Definitions to add a definition for “Cryptocurrency Mining Facility”; 6) a definition for “Data Center;” and 7) to delete the definition for “Technology Equipment Facility”.]
THIS IS TO CONSIDER SEVEN TEXT CHANGE AMENDMENTS TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, THAT BEING CHAPTER 12 ONE, NUMBER ONE LOT TO AMEND ARTICLE 25 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT OF SAID CHAPTER TO ADD CONCRETE BATCHING PLANTS TEMPORARY TO PERMITTED USES TO DELETE TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FACILITY FROM PERMITTED USES TO AMEND ARTICLE 30-12 SPECIAL USE PERMITS LI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY USE TO REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A DATA CENTER, TO AMEND ARTICLE 42 SPECIAL DEFINITIONS TO ADD A DEFINITION FOR CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY, A DEFINITION FOR DATA CENTER, AND TO DELETE THE DEFINITION FOR TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FACILITY.WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY MR. MATT STEER. MATT.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I THINK YOU SUMMED UP MY PRESENTATION PRETTY WELL IN THE CAPTION.
WE HAD GOOD. WE HAD GOOD DIALOG IN THE WORK SESSION, BUT NO, A REVIEW WOULD BE GOOD THERE.
OKAY. SO A, A PLAT FOR A PROPERTY THAT WILL HAVE A TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT FOR LESS THAN SIX MONTHS WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON JULY 16TH, 2026. AT THAT TIME, A QUESTION CAME UP REGARDING HOW MANY TIMES A TEMPORARY BATCHING PLANT COULD BE PERMITTED ON THE SAME PROPERTY TO PREVENT APPLICANTS FROM USING CONSECUTIVE TEMPORARY PERMITS TO BYPASS THE SIX MONTH SUP PROCESS, OR SUP REQUIREMENT. THE CITY IS PROPOSING TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE DIRECTLY.
THEN THE OTHER COMPONENT OF THE TEXT AMENDMENTS ARE REQUIRING A CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY OR DATA CENTER USE TO OBTAIN A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THAT'S A PROACTIVE ADDITION TO THE ORDINANCE, NOT IN RESPONSE TO A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT.
THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS CAN BE SEPARATED INTO TWO DISTINCT CATEGORIES.
BOTH ARE REGULATED WITHIN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
BECAUSE THE USE IS TEMPORARY IN NATURE, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT INCLUDES A PROVISION THAT WOULD ALLOW NO MORE THAN ONE SIX MONTH BATCH PLANT WITHIN AN 18 CONSECUTIVE MONTH PERIOD FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE TEMPORARY USE.
CURRENTLY A TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FACILITY DEFINED AS STRUCTURES, HOUSING, TELECOMMUNICATIONS, COMPUTER AND HIGH TECHNOLOGY DATA ROUTING EQUIPMENT IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT WITHIN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSES TO ELIMINATE TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FACILITY AS A PERMITTED BY RIGHT USE.
CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY. LAND USE DEFINITIONS.
BOTH USES WILL NOW REQUIRE SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPROVAL.
WHAT'S DISPLAYED BEFORE YOU IS THE PLANNING PROCESS.
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SUBDIVISION AND BUILDING CODES. SO THAT'S IN THE THE RED BOX THERE.PRIOR TO THE HEARING, THE APPLICANT MUST POST A ZONING CHANGE REQUESTED SIGN ON THE PROPERTY AND CONCURRENTLY, CITY STAFF MAILS PUBLIC NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT PER STATE LAW AND WITH EIGHT WITHIN 800FT AS A COURTESY NOTICE.
NOTICE STAFF THEN PREPARES A FORMAL REPORT FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
AFTER CONDUCTING A PUBLIC HEARING, THE COMMISSION FORWARDS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
IF THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN APPROVE THE REQUEST BY SIMPLE MAJORITY UNLESS PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 20, WITH 20% OR MORE OF THE LAND AREA WITHIN 200FT IS OPPOSED.
THIS 20% REQUIRES A SUPERMAJORITY, WHICH IS SIX OUT OF SEVEN REQUIREMENT.
IF THE COMMISSION DENIES THE REQUEST, THE APPLICANT MAY APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH ALSO REQUIRES A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE TO APPROVE THE PERMIT OR THE PLAN OR THE SUP. REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR DATA CENTERS AND CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY GRANTS THE CITY COUNCIL DISCRETION OVER THEIR APPROVAL WITHIN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. THE SUP PROCESS ENSURES A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, INCLUDING THE SITE PLAN, LANDSCAPE PLAN, TREE SURVEY, BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING.
THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CURRENTLY THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE DISTRICT INCLUDE A HEIGHT THAT IS NO LIMIT EXCEPT FOR 35 FOOT MAXIMUM. WHEN LOCATED WITHIN 100FT, 150FT OF A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT, THEN THE FRONT SETBACK REQUIREMENT IS 30FT, WHICH INCREASES TO 60FT IF PARKING IS LOCATED IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, AND THEN THE SIDE AND REAR SETBACKS ARE TEN FEET, WHICH INCREASES TO 50FT WHEN ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
WHILE STAFF WILL GUIDE DEVELOPERS THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS AND ENCOURAGE SENSITIVITY TOWARDS NEARBY RESIDENTIAL USES, THE FINAL AUTHORITY TO APPROVE OR DENY THE SUP RESTS SOLELY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.
STAFF ORIGINALLY HAD PROPOSED A DATA CENTER DEFINITION THAT WAS VERY BROAD.
HOWEVER, TO PREVENT THE CONFUSION SEEN IN OTHER TEXAS CITIES BETWEEN DATA CENTERS AND CRYPTO MINING, THE TWO ARE NOW SEPARATED INTO DISTINCT USES WITH INDIVIDUAL DEFINITIONS.
SO A CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY USE OR CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY USES A HIGH POWERED COMPUTER SERVER FARMS TO OPERATE INTENSIVE COMPUTATIONS TO VALIDATE TRANSACTIONS AND GENERATE DIGITAL CURRENCY.
THESE ARE DIFFERENT FROM A DATA CENTER THAT PROVIDES DATA MANAGEMENT SERVICES, WHICH IS DATA PROCESSING, STORAGE, CONVERSION, WAREHOUSING, DISSEMINATION, WEB HOSTING, OR CLOUD COMPUTING.
SO CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING OPERATIONS CONSUME MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF WATER FOR COOLING SYSTEMS, CONTINUOUS ENERGY CONSUMPTION, AND HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF NOISE DUE TO THE COOLING FANS.
TRADITIONAL DATA CENTERS REQUIRE CONSTANT, UNINTERRUPTED 24/7 UPTIME WITH COMPLEX BACKUP SYSTEMS. WHILE CRYPTOCURRENCY FACILITIES CAN EASILY SHUT DOWN OR CURTAIL POWER USE DURING HIGH DEMAND OR GRID GRID EVENTS.
BUT BOTH TYPES OF FACILITIES SHARE HEAVILY OR HEAVY ELECTRICAL AND COOLING NEEDS BUT THEIR PRIMARY PURPOSES AND RELIABILITY REQUIREMENTS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. SO AFTER RESEARCHING OTHER MUNICIPAL MUNICIPALITIES DEFINITIONS, FORT WORTH'S DEFINITIONS WERE CHOSEN DUE TO THE PRECISE LANGUAGE THEY HAD INCLUDED. THE PROPOSED DEFINITION FOR CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY IS AS FOLLOWS.
GOT IT UP HERE ON OUR SCREEN. CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY, ALSO REFERRED TO AS DIGITAL ASSET MINING OR HIGH DENSITY LOAD COMPUTING, REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY CONSISTING OF A BUILDING STRUCTURE OR SPECIALIZED OPEN AIR ENCLOSURE CONTAINING NETWORK COMPUTERS.
APPLICATION SPECIFIC INTEGRATED CIRCUIT CHIPS OR RELATED ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT UTILIZED FOR THE PRIMARY PURPOSES OF VERIFYING TRANSACTIONS, SOLVING CRYPTOGRAPHIC ALGORITHMS, GENERATING DIGITAL CURRENCY, OR COMPUTING BLOCKCHAIN ASSETS.
THIS CLASSIFICATION IS CHARACTERIZED BY AN ULTRA HIGH DENSITY POWER DEMAND CONTINUOUS 24/7 365 BASE LOAD ELECTRICITY CONSUMPTION, AND RELIANCE ON SPECIALIZED OPEN AIR VENTILATION OR CONTINUOUS INDUSTRIAL HEAT DISSIPATION SYSTEMS REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE OPERATION IS A
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PRIMARY OR ANCILLARY USE. THE PROPOSED DEFINITION FOR DATA CENTER IS AS FOLLOWS.DATA CENTER. REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY CONSISTING OF A OF A BUILDING GROUP OF BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED OR MODIFIED TO HOUSE NETWORKED COMPUTER SERVERS, DATA STORAGE SYSTEMS, AND TRANSACTION PROCESSING EQUIPMENT.
THE PRIMARY USE OF THE FACILITY IS THE PROVISION OF DATA MANAGEMENT SERVICES, INCLUDING DATA PROCESSING, STORAGE, CONVERSION, WAREHOUSING, DISSEMINATION, WEB HOSTING OR CLOUD COMPUTING TO ONE OR MORE EXTERNAL OR INTERNAL CLIENTS.
THIS USE INCLUDES ALL NECESSARY ANCILLARY INFRASTRUCTURE INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORT EQUIPMENT ON SITE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, EMERGENCY BACKUP POWER GENERATORS, ELECTRICAL SUBSTATIONS, COOLING TOWERS AND VENTILATION SYSTEMS, BUT EXPLICITLY EXCLUDES STANDALONE AND CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING OPERATIONS.
SUCH USES ARE DISTINCT. WE, WE PROPOSE DELETING THIS DEFINITION OF TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT FACILITY TO, TO AVOID CONFUSION AS THIS USE IS NOW COVERED UNDER THE CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING AND DATA CENTER DEFINITIONS.
FINALLY, BY REQUIRING AN SUP FOR DATA CENTERS AND CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITIES, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY, GUARANTEEING A COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS BE FOLLOWED BEFORE ANY FINAL ACTION.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENTS.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I'VE GOT BOB HERE AS SUPPORT AS WELL. OKAY. VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, MATT. AND WE HAD SOME GREAT DISCUSSION IN WORK SESSION, AND I'M GOING TO ASK COMMISSIONER DOBMEIER TO START OUT FIRST AS THIS IS HIS FIELD OF EXPERTISE. AND SO BUT YOU HAD SOME GREAT COMMENTS IN OUR WORK SESSION, SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU THERE.
COMMISSIONER DOBMEIER. SURE, A HANDFUL OF POINTS HERE.
IT MIGHT FIT THAT DEFINITION PURELY BASED ON POWER CONSUMPTION ALONE.
I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY COME UP WITH SOMETHING SIMILAR ALTHOUGH MAYBE NOT AS EFFECTIVE, RELATED TO METRIC TONS OF COOLING CAPABILITY, WHETHER THAT BE CHILLER HVAC OR ALL OF THESE FACILITIES NEED COOLING OF SOME FORM, WHETHER IT BE LIQUID OR AIR, FORCED AIR. YOU CAN ALSO PUT SOME TRIPWIRES UP TO CATCH IN THOSE AREAS AS WELL.
ANOTHER POSSIBILITY. ANOTHER THING I WOULD ALSO MAYBE THROW OUT THERE, ONLY BECAUSE OF BEHAVIORS WE'VE SEEN IN AROUND THE COUNTRY LATELY BECAUSE OF AVAILABILITY OF POWER AND THE DEMAND THAT THAT DRIVES.
WE SEE A LOT OF PLACES THAT WILL INSTALL GENERATORS AND RUN GENERATORS, NOT WITH THE INTENT OF THAT BEING AN EMERGENCY BACKUP FACILITY, BUT THAT BEING THEIR PRIMARY GENERATION FACILITY OR PRIMARY GENERATOR GENERATION CAPABILITY.
AND I THINK THE CITY SHOULD TRY TO PUT SOME STRONG WORDING TO AVOID THAT EITHER AS A STOPGAP MEASURE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET POWER CONNECTED ON TIME OR AS A REGULAR OPERATING MODE OF WE CAN'T GET TEN MEGAWATTS.
SO I'M GOING TO INSTALL SIX MEGAWATTS WORTH OF GENERATORS AND GET WHAT I CAN FROM THE GRID.
JUST SOME THINGS TO LOOK OUT FOR. SO WOULD, WOULD THE RECOMMENDATION BE FOR THE GENERATORS THAT THEY HAVE TO PRODUCE A MINIMUM WATTAGE CONSUMPTION AS WELL. YEAH, I THINK ONCE THEY HIT OVER A CERTAIN LEVEL, THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE IT'S A DATA CENTER OR IT'S A
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CRYPTOCURRENCY. YOU KNOW, YOU GET OVER FIVE, TEN MEGAWATTS AND THERE'S NOT MANY OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO CONSUME THAT.SO THEY COULD TRY TO SAY, OH, I'M NOT A DATA CENTER.
THIS IS, THIS IS A HOUSE THAT I'VE CONVERTED TO A SERVER FARM OR WHATEVER THEY CAN.
THEY'RE STILL GOING TO TRIP OVER THAT POWER WIRE SOONER OR LATER. AND IT'S LIKE BASED ON OUR DISCUSSION DURING WORK SESSION, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE FACILITY IS LESS IMPORTANT THAN THE, THE WATTAGE OF YOUR ELECTRICAL NEED IN USE.
CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. BECAUSE AS, AS, AS TRANSISTOR DENSITY CONTINUES TO GET SMALLER AND SMALLER AND AS COOLING TECHNOLOGY, PARTICULARLY LIQUID COOLING AND LIQUID COOLING AGENTS GET BETTER AND MORE EFFECTIVE, THOSE FOOTPRINTS ARE GOING TO GET SMALLER AND SMALLER, AND THE EFFECTIVENESS OF COOLING IS GOING TO GET SMALLER AND SMALLER. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU CAN'T BREAK THE LAWS OF PHYSICS.
THE POWER CONSUMPTION IS STILL GOING TO BE THERE. IT'S STILL GOING TO GO UP. ONE OTHER KIND OF THING I WOULD RECOMMEND THROWING IN AS WELL IS A DEFINITION OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, AND INCLUDING THAT IN THE DATA CENTER DEFINITION.
TO INCLUDE THE USE AS AI OR HOW HOW WOULD THAT RECOMMENDATION TRANSLATE INTO OUR DEFINITION? YEAH. WELL, I THINK ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CAN SLIP THROUGH.
IT'S NOT REALLY A DATA. IT'S NOT REALLY DATA.
IT'S NOT REALLY A DATA FARM. IT'S MORE LIKE A DATA SERVICE.
OKAY. AND SO I THINK IF YOU CAN DEFINE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE INTELLIGENCE AS A DATA SERVICE, YOU'RE CAPTURING A PIECE OF THAT THAT OTHERWISE MIGHT SLIP THROUGH YOUR DEFINITION.
THAT'S EASY ENOUGH TO DO. WE CAN DO THAT. GREAT STUFF, JOHN.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? BY THE COMMISSION. BISHOP, CINDY.
THANKS. I HAD A QUESTION ON THE DEFINITION OF CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY.
IN, IN THE BACKGROUND, YOU MENTIONED THAT A CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY CAN, CAN BE TURNED OFF.
SO IT'S NOT OPERATING CONTINUOUSLY. YOU CAN STOP IT.
BUT, BUT IN THIS DEFINITION HERE IT DOES MENTION CONTINUOUS 24/7 365.
RIGHT. YEAH. SO I WAS JUST LOOKING UP WHAT THE DIFFERENT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CRYPTO.
SORRY, I WAS JUST LOOKING UP WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS YOU KNOW, I BASICALLY I DID A GOOGLE SEARCH.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING AND DATA CENTER? AND SO YEAH, I, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE GENERAL DEFINITION OR GENERAL DIFFERENCE IS.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT IN MY DEFINITION, IT DEFINITION. IT DOES. DOES SAY THAT IT'S ONGOING.
YES. I THINK IT MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE IF WE DELETED THAT PHRASE.
CONTINUOUS 24/7 365 BASE LOAD ELECTRICITY CONSUMPTION BECAUSE THEY CAN BE UNPLUGGED. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT. THEY POTENTIALLY THEY POTENTIALLY WON'T BE USED CONTINUOUSLY.
SO I DON'T WANT THEM TO FALL OUTSIDE THIS DEFINITION.
WELL, THAT'S THAT'S REALLY GOOD. YEAH. I THINK WE CAN DELETE THAT.
OKAY. THANKS. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS BY THE COMMISSION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A OH I'M SORRY. SORRY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION OR I GUESS WE'VE DEFINED CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING FACILITY.
WE'VE DEFINED DATA CENTER. BUT JOHN SORT OF MENTIONED THAT THERE'S OTHER VOCABULARY, AND I ALMOST LIKE THE PREVIOUS TERM OF TECHNOLOGY FACILITY BECAUSE CHANGE THE VOCABULARY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO DO WITH TECHNOLOGY.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK THE TECHNOLOGY BECOMES A BIT OF A CATCH ALL TO SAY, THIS ISN'T THIS ISN'T IF SOMEBODY CAN COME AND SAY, THIS IS NOT DATA CENTER, THIS IS NOT CRYPTOCURRENCY, AND THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE.
AND I LIKE THE PARAMETERS OF THE POWER AND STUFF, BUT.
I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO WE'VE DEFINED TWO THINGS, BUT WHAT'S THE NEXT THING AND WHAT'S THE NEXT THING? RIGHT. AND IF IT FALLS OUTSIDE THIS DEFINITION AND WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC USE THAT IT FALLS WITHIN, THEN WE BRING IT FOR A, A NEW USE DEFINITION THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.
OKAY. SO IF IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY DEFINED, THEN IT HAS TO COME THROUGH ANYWAYS.
SO YOUR POINT. TO YOUR POINT, POSSIBLY BUILDING A PLANT TO BUILD ROBOTICS COULD BE A POSSIBILITY FOR A NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT'S NOT UNDER
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CONSIDERATION HERE. CORRECT. IT FITS UNDER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUT.RIGHT. WELL I THINK THAT USE IS ALREADY DEFINED WITHIN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
ASSEMBLING A COMPUTER, YOU KNOW, PARTS, THINGS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO SO YEAH, I SEE THE POINT. IF WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC USE, THAT'S THAT A NEW USE FALLS WITHIN, THEN WE BRING IT FORWARD AS A NEW USE FOR YOU GUYS TO DEFINE AS REQUIRING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR NOT.
AND ONE LASTLY, THE THING IS, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN WORK SESSION, THIS INDUSTRY THAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO REGULATE NOW IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MONITOR IT AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING YOU SOME MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES AS THINGS PROGRESS AS POWER SOURCES MAY CHANGE, THE SIZE OF THE FACILITIES ARE DEFINITELY NOT WHAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT THEY WERE, BUT EVEN SMALLER. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSTANTLY MONITOR.
AND WE'LL BE BACK BEFORE YOU WITH SOME, MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK AT IN THIS, IN THIS REALM. SO OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MAURER.
YES. SO IN TERMS OF THE DEFINITION, SO THE, THE QUESTION THAT I HAD WORK SESSION WAS.
I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARITY ON THE PRIMARY USE COMMENT BECAUSE AND HOW THAT'S AND ONE, I GUESS SHOULD THAT BE CAPITALIZED? AND DOES THAT PROTECT ESSENTIALLY FROM PULLING IN ALMOST EVERY BUSINESS? BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN FREEPORT, AND MANY OF THEM, I'M SURE HAVE COMPUTERS, STORAGE, YOU KNOW, WEB HOSTING AND SO FORTH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE SOME SORT OF TECHNOLOGY.
THEY PROBABLY ALL HAVE EMERGENCY BACKUP GENERATORS.
SO WE ARE, WE EFFECTIVELY MY QUESTION IS, IS THE PRIMARY USE PREVENT THIS FROM BASICALLY CAUSING ALMOST EVERY BUSINESS TO COME THROUGH WITH AN SUP NOW.
RIGHT. AND THAT WAS THE INTENT OF INCLUDING IT AS A PRIMARY USE.
YEAH. I THINK AS WE GO ALONG THERE, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY COPPELL HAS ENJOYED HOSTING A NUMBER OF CALL CENTERS, FULFILLMENT CENTERS. THEY ALL HAVE COMPUTERS, WE KNOW THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT THEIR PRIMARY USE.
THEIR PRIMARY USE IS LIKE NAPA WE HAVE IN TOWN IS DELIVERING AUTO PARTS.
THEY HAVE SERVERS. SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CAPTURE THOSE.
AND IF THEY CAME IN, I THINK MATT COULD ADDRESS THAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO CAPTURE.
GOT IT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION? OKAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE? OKAY. SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY FINAL DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION? ANYBODY WANT TO TAKE A CRACK AT A AT A MOTION? I'LL PUT ONE OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAPTURED IT AT ALL, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE SUP PROCESS IS THE WAY TO GO, PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH CHANGES IN TECHNOLOGY TECHNOLOGY SO FAST.
WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND PROPOSALS. WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE ABILITY TO, TO, TO RECEIVE THESE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS AND HOW THEY THEY MAY BE BENEFICIAL FOR US POTENTIALLY, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY TO UNDERSTAND POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.
SO I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE THE AMENDMENTS AS PRESENTED BY STAFF WITH THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS, SOME PERFORMANCE METRICS.
AND THIS IS TO EFFECTIVELY CAPTURE TECHNOLOGY AND THE AND THE FACILITIES THAT THEY'RE HOUSED IN PERFORMANCE METRICS OF POWER CONSUMPTION COOLING METRIC TONS OF COOLING, WHETHER LIQUID OR FORCED AIR AND THE METHOD OF POWER GENERATION, WHETHER ITS GENERATORS. NUMBER OF GENERATORS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEN TO ALSO INCLUDE A DEFINITION OF WHAT IS AI AND TO INCLUDE THAT IT.
THAT IT ALSO INCLUDES DATA SERVICE AS PART OF THE DEFINITION.
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CONTINUOUS BASE LOAD OF POWER SO THAT WE'RE NOT SO THAT SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE IT GETS THROUGH UNDER, UNDERNEATH REQUIREMENTS THERE. AND THEN TO ADD ANOTHER CONSIDERATION WITH REGARDS TO BUSINESSES UNNECESSARILY BEING PULLED IN, BUT I THINK THAT'S COVERED BY THE SUP IS THAT CORRECT? MATT. YEAH. THAT'S COVERED BY THE PRIMARY. SO STRIKE THAT LAST ONE.SO THAT IS MY MOTION AS PRESENTED. IS THERE A SECOND.
SECOND. WOW. I'LL SECOND THAT. I THINK CINDY CAUGHT IT FIRST.
SO WE'LL HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BISHOP.
SO WITH THAT KAMI, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? PLEASE RESPOND BY SAYING AYE AND AS I CALL YOUR NAME. COMMISSIONER PATEL. AYE. COMMISSIONER DOBMEIER. AYE VICE CHAIR BLANKENSHIP. AYE.
CHAIRMAN HAAS. AYE. COMMISSIONER MAURER. AYE.
COMMISSIONER HAFEMANN. AYE. COMMISSIONER BISHOP.
AYE. ALL APPROVE NONE OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.
[8. Update on City Council items.]
WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS OTHER THAN WE WILL BE BEGINNING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING A PART OF THAT THAT WHOLE PROCESS, HOW THAT'LL BE THE FOOTPRINT FOR GUIDING OUR COMMUNITY FORWARD THROUGH THE YEARS 2040 AND BEYOND. SO WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS, I WILL ADJOURN OUR MEETING.
THE TIME IS 7:04.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.